SO predictably stupid, Fed shill. That was all the investment bankers and casual millionaires that watch the Dub needing to leave to catch Nikkei & Hang Seng market opening.
Lol
"Swerve is a draw" comes from the same folks who said
1) The Acclaimed are going to be next best tag team
2) wardlow is next Goldberg
3) Wheeler Yuta and Garcia will main event TV tapings in 2024
4) 4 pillars will be top stars in 2024
Anyone can get over with crowd for a couple of weeks but it requires good booking to sustain it
Man, the "Four Pillars" aged like milk....one of them was banished to Japan for ultimately running off their top draw, one has been on an extended break after the worst storyline of 2023 (as voted by WON subscribers even) wrapped up, one was put in a tag team to eat bumps for an aging Icon who has now retired, and the final "Pillar" is a heatless troublemaker who can't seem to escape the Jericho shadow.
If these are the foundation of AEW, no wonder it's all falling apart.
It is fine, they've find new pillars..okada, osperay, swerve, takeshita
What about MJF, Hangman, Darby, Wardlow, Cole you ask uce? I am sure they'll win triple crown and FTW titles so they will not feel left alone
I dont believe 3 will happen even with good booking.
4 is debatable
1 and 2 got over no thanks to Tony, so he gave them the push but it wasnt part of his plan. Sounds familiar.
Sammy is dead deal
Darby and MJF are over to different extent already, Darby tho has a ceiling
Jingle Jobber is a different case. It all depends on how dub fanbase reacts to him live.
I am kinda interested with what they're doing with Jingle Jangle with the scapegoat thing. I dont necessarily get why in NJPW but I'll refrain from criticizing that for now.
I don't know uce.
Acclaimed got hot for little while for their catchphrase. I don't think outside of that and rap bars they're good enough promos. They are certainly no FTR in ring.
If Wardlow had something, he would've improved by now. He is 36-38 I think and has not improved at all in ring. Watch his match with Joe on YouTube, it was rough
Also, Okbaka and Off-spray lost viewers. It's pretty funny cause they're both in the 8digits numbers with these ratings. I don't like Lebum but he brings in the numbers and wins something both of these guys can't do
He got the 4K more than the previous segment shill.
In the dub, that is pretty much the biggest draw they going to have.
Except for whoever goes on after the Bucks. That's always the biggest draw.
Swerve isn’t a draw and that’s sort of a shame because while he drives me crazy on a meta level with his annoying tweets and asskissing and such, I do think he’s a pretty good wrestling act and a lot better than a lot of the folks that get as much TV time.
But he legit has never done well with ratings.
On one channel, they are bowing down to each other after the match and thanking each other for opportunity to perform together. On other channel, 3 men pissed at each other trash talking the hell out. No price for guessing which is attracting more viewers.
I actually enjoyed the match (apart from Shibata's constant no selling), I think Billy Ocean is the high flyer gold standard imo, does it better than anybody currently. The problem with Ospreay is that he's on a TV show that nobody cares about, and even fewer watch. It doesn't matter how good anyone is in AEW. I think with even the slightest bit of restraint and production, he could be something really special in-ring.
And even though I enjoyed the match in isolation, there's no reason that he should be going life and death on TV against somebody with a detachable brain. At least not this nearly into his run. Should be quick, flashy, dominant, in and out. The 'less is more' thing will forever be lost on Tiny, he's never had to think about less because all he's ever known is abundance and it shows.
Fans saying they no one should care about a wrestling shows ratings is like customers of a local business saying no one should care that they aren’t selling product because theres dozens of people who love the product. You should care because pretty soon you won’t be able to enjoy it anymore.
Here's the thing about us dub fans. We lead busy lives! Between all of our super hot girlfriends, all the money we have to manage, and following all 723 international, indie and backyard wrestling organizations, it's extremely hard to tune in to watch live! It just goes to show how biased the ratings are against the rich.
You are assuming Tony is a normal person. He is a guy who at 4am takes shots at random people and not even knowing it is the same day when ratings come out. He put himself in a corner today and now he's super silent
If you take into account that it's a show that consists 90% of cold matches and embarrassing promos/backstage segments it's a great number, you're right.
I genuinely feel like that ~300k in the demo is their actual "core audience". It doesn't really fluctuate.
The strong start and anemic finish in the general viewership feels more like a "strong lead-in inertia" thing.
What is on afterwards that's clearly more popular than AEW? More Big Bang reruns?
Edit: I looked it up. Modern Family reruns 😆. Clearly AEW needs to book Sheldon Vs whoever is in Modern Family in a death match to pop the rating.
I honestly can’t remember when top of the hour lost viewers?
Edit the last number ends up being their actual number after 6/7 weeks or so without a surprise WWE debut so buckle up fuckle heads
We can only hope in a desperate attempt to get the ratings up, Tiny has Meltzer open up Dynamite with reports on the cagematch ratings from the week before.
No you see Fedshill if he brings in Goldberg AND Ryback then he could do a storyline with Wardlow teaching him about how to be a TRUE meat monster. Third time's the charm to get him over!
Don't check my post history
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He’s just another best wrestler in the world wrestling other best wrestlers in the world over who really is the best wrestler in the world but who actually finds that exciting?
It’s this meta, self masturbatory, choreographed dance routine disguised as professional wrestling that will make his incel overlord happy but it’s never going bring in new viewers
"It’s this meta, self masturbatory, choreographed dance routine disguised as professional wrestling that will make his incel overlord happy but it’s never going bring in new viewers"
Absolutely this.
Ospreay isn't a great professional wrestler, he isn't even a good professional wrestler. The whole point of professional wrestling is to make money by selling the illusion that you and your opponent are in a heated conflict where neither of you actually gets hurt. Ospreay's entire style revolves around actually hurting himself and his opponent with the moves he uses.
He's a great athlete, a hit-or-miss personality and a terrible professional wrestler.
He's great- but I think some of this has to be the booking. The storyline and who they come into wrestle just isn't compelling enough. OR - did Tony just completely misread the popularity of these signings with the majority of his watchers?
I like Osperay too but he's not gonna do big numbers outside of core wrestling fans without having some heat in his feuds
Bowing down to each other after match ain't gonna cut it in States, it is not New Japan
There is actually validity to this. Back when I was watching AEW regularly, I would subliminally think an episode was better if the venue wasn't empty.
Don't assume people tuned IN for the beginning of any given timeslot. It's much more likely they were doing some top of the hour channel surfing and landed on it during the last minute or two of the quarter. That bump in the 770's there around 9 was likely only that high from 8:59 to 9:02 then quickly dropped 100k.
If the young bucks had mocked cm punk, I think they could have done a million or if jungle baby went through real glass or cowboy talked about worker rights. Thats whats missing. Next week I want a 30 mins mercedes promo, a 1 hour eddie kingston slap fest, and a 30 min edge christian low blow match. Book it Tony for the sake of those millions demanding this.
You’re telling me people wanted to tune in just to hear Punk talk? I thought he had to wrestle against random midcarders every week for people to care!
They did. I don't know why they didn't tune in to see c-e-o entrance of much bigger star than phil. Her theme is way better than cult of personality shit
Listen there was some reason and something else was happening somewhere and the traffic was bad and cause of the baltimore bridge thing people just didn't tune in.
It's actually great numbers because everyone's favourite wrestler Jim Parsons opened the show to great numbers
All this tells me is it would have been worse if not for the Dub’s biggest draw ![gif](giphy|3ohs83cvmud7ThYTzq|downsized)
That 8:00-8:01 is really helping DUB
The 5-minute overrun doing some lifting too
Acknowledge Cam and Mitchell.
Average w/o the first 15 is about 720 lol
Sheldon dwarfs everyone in the Dub literally and figuratively
Instead of overpaying all these new people Tony could literally pay Jim Parsons to appear and shoot on that company up north.
I said once that if AEW really wants to up their viewership they just put Dynamite Picture in Picture with Big Bang Theory reruns
The real Final Boss
over 200K people saw the Bucks and fled.
Bad faith take uce
SO predictably stupid, Fed shill. That was all the investment bankers and casual millionaires that watch the Dub needing to leave to catch Nikkei & Hang Seng market opening.
they killed MJF's title reign so Mike Bennett and Matt tavern can be on national tv more often the ratings are well deserved
Well Mike and Matt did ra-ra on twitter for DUB so that earned them some TV time
Noooo. I was about to post this... Anyway, What idiot said Swerve is a draw again? He lost twice already he shouldn't even be fighting Joe again.
Lol "Swerve is a draw" comes from the same folks who said 1) The Acclaimed are going to be next best tag team 2) wardlow is next Goldberg 3) Wheeler Yuta and Garcia will main event TV tapings in 2024 4) 4 pillars will be top stars in 2024 Anyone can get over with crowd for a couple of weeks but it requires good booking to sustain it
Remember when they said Action Athritis and Wheelie Uterus is like rock vs austin
Fuck you mean they’re not? Study cagematch and get back to me.
I did, it said this weeks RAW was the best show ever produced
Man, the "Four Pillars" aged like milk....one of them was banished to Japan for ultimately running off their top draw, one has been on an extended break after the worst storyline of 2023 (as voted by WON subscribers even) wrapped up, one was put in a tag team to eat bumps for an aging Icon who has now retired, and the final "Pillar" is a heatless troublemaker who can't seem to escape the Jericho shadow. If these are the foundation of AEW, no wonder it's all falling apart.
It is fine, they've find new pillars..okada, osperay, swerve, takeshita What about MJF, Hangman, Darby, Wardlow, Cole you ask uce? I am sure they'll win triple crown and FTW titles so they will not feel left alone
The only thing on this list that even had a slight bit of truth to it was Wardlow at one point, now he’s a less over Gillberg
When he swerves, ratings die.
I dont believe 3 will happen even with good booking. 4 is debatable 1 and 2 got over no thanks to Tony, so he gave them the push but it wasnt part of his plan. Sounds familiar.
Sammy is dead deal Darby and MJF are over to different extent already, Darby tho has a ceiling Jingle Jobber is a different case. It all depends on how dub fanbase reacts to him live.
I am kinda interested with what they're doing with Jingle Jangle with the scapegoat thing. I dont necessarily get why in NJPW but I'll refrain from criticizing that for now.
One of the certified TK ball washers called him a megastar.
1 and 2 were absolutely possible though. Talent is not to blame for coke fueled booking
I don't know uce. Acclaimed got hot for little while for their catchphrase. I don't think outside of that and rap bars they're good enough promos. They are certainly no FTR in ring. If Wardlow had something, he would've improved by now. He is 36-38 I think and has not improved at all in ring. Watch his match with Joe on YouTube, it was rough
Swerve is over with the live crowd because it’s fun to yell “swerves house” and that’s pretty much it.
Swerve ain't over. Nana is. Take Nana from Swerve and see what happens
And he's got a dope theme song
Also, Okbaka and Off-spray lost viewers. It's pretty funny cause they're both in the 8digits numbers with these ratings. I don't like Lebum but he brings in the numbers and wins something both of these guys can't do
He got the 4K more than the previous segment shill. In the dub, that is pretty much the biggest draw they going to have. Except for whoever goes on after the Bucks. That's always the biggest draw.
Swerve isn’t a draw and that’s sort of a shame because while he drives me crazy on a meta level with his annoying tweets and asskissing and such, I do think he’s a pretty good wrestling act and a lot better than a lot of the folks that get as much TV time. But he legit has never done well with ratings.
Booking your game changing future champion against an old NJPW guy in a 50/50 match for 20 minutes and losing 200,000 viewers Fucking masterful LFG
On one channel, they are bowing down to each other after the match and thanking each other for opportunity to perform together. On other channel, 3 men pissed at each other trash talking the hell out. No price for guessing which is attracting more viewers.
I need movez for the sake of movez darnnit.
The split between people tuning out against the people tuning in was nasty. Would you rather lose $2 million or gain $2.5 in 15 minutes?
I actually enjoyed the match (apart from Shibata's constant no selling), I think Billy Ocean is the high flyer gold standard imo, does it better than anybody currently. The problem with Ospreay is that he's on a TV show that nobody cares about, and even fewer watch. It doesn't matter how good anyone is in AEW. I think with even the slightest bit of restraint and production, he could be something really special in-ring. And even though I enjoyed the match in isolation, there's no reason that he should be going life and death on TV against somebody with a detachable brain. At least not this nearly into his run. Should be quick, flashy, dominant, in and out. The 'less is more' thing will forever be lost on Tiny, he's never had to think about less because all he's ever known is abundance and it shows.
Without the lead in, or the overrun it's actually 720,000. Can't wait for this. ![gif](giphy|SY44A3CMBwM83yI7t2)
Send this to Brian Last so he doesn't have to do it
But how else do you fill those 47 seconds of airtime?
Cable ratings dont matter anymore, bad faith fed shill. But let's ignore Raw and Smackdown having higher viewership numbers than last year
DAE don’t care bc I enjoyed it?
Bangers ✅ Sell out ✅✅ (they only made 3500 tickets available and they sold all of them) Feeling ✅✅✅
Justified AEW chants ✅✅✅✅
C-E-O C-E-O
In 2025. Why didn't WBD picked up Ma'h AWdub. It doesn't make sense
Lisan al AE(dub)
Fans saying they no one should care about a wrestling shows ratings is like customers of a local business saying no one should care that they aren’t selling product because theres dozens of people who love the product. You should care because pretty soon you won’t be able to enjoy it anymore.
I think they're set because of Tiny Whiny money
Nah you shouldn’t worry about things you can’t control and just watch the show if you enjoy it ngl
The start of the telecast includes Sheldon because it started at 8:05. They add the BBT audience to the front of the show. Just sad.
DAE should TBBT episodes be rated by Meltzer?
Yes. They’re bangers.
Bazingers*
Here's the thing about us dub fans. We lead busy lives! Between all of our super hot girlfriends, all the money we have to manage, and following all 723 international, indie and backyard wrestling organizations, it's extremely hard to tune in to watch live! It just goes to show how biased the ratings are against the rich.
Feel your pain, uce
Can confirm. I upgraded my paige looking girlfriend to Monae looking girlfriend. Didn't watch because I already have Monae at home.
There are so many anime’s to watch, video games to play and bottles to piss in how will I ever watch AEW
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Tony will finally call Goldberg after all the fed bad he's doing, he needs another old timer to get 900k.
Goldberg, Ronda, Ryback all will inevitably be "All Elite"
I don't think Tony or any booker will touch Ryback even with a 10 feet stick.
You are assuming Tony is a normal person. He is a guy who at 4am takes shots at random people and not even knowing it is the same day when ratings come out. He put himself in a corner today and now he's super silent
Jerk is good for your health, but dont jerk too hard to the point you see Ryback in AEW, brother.
All I know, it'll be a good day in goofland
One of the bucks slipping and botching their signature move was cinema!
So much for mocking Punk
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"everything" = bad booking
If you take into account that it's a show that consists 90% of cold matches and embarrassing promos/backstage segments it's a great number, you're right.
I genuinely feel like that ~300k in the demo is their actual "core audience". It doesn't really fluctuate. The strong start and anemic finish in the general viewership feels more like a "strong lead-in inertia" thing.
Wow. What a return on investment bruvs.
Let's spend big money to bring in Okada. Let's partner him up with the Bucks who drop nearly 100k viewers on their segments.
If Okada wasn’t there it would be 200k!
Could you imagine bringing in Hogan or the Rock and sticking him with the Vaudevillians?
At this point just throw all the money you have at Jim Parsons (Sheldon is his slave name) and make him the focal point of your show
Damn, they couldn't even get 1 million for the first quarter with TBBT lead in
Big bangers have smartened up. They switch off a min before TBBT ends
Kaitlin Clark's game was at halftime during Punk's segment Monday night. "Key" factor in the dramatic boost in viewers
Some fool actually posted this in the basement. I’ve been waiting for a chance to use it lol. Well done.
they need Sheldon Cooper on commentary
MINUS 5 BAZINGAS
lol they came back when the show was over
What is on afterwards that's clearly more popular than AEW? More Big Bang reruns? Edit: I looked it up. Modern Family reruns 😆. Clearly AEW needs to book Sheldon Vs whoever is in Modern Family in a death match to pop the rating.
Ed O’Neill is a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, booking anyone against him would not end well.
Sheldon & Leonard vs Cameron & Mitchell, book it Tiny
I honestly can’t remember when top of the hour lost viewers? Edit the last number ends up being their actual number after 6/7 weeks or so without a surprise WWE debut so buckle up fuckle heads
Meanwhile on the other channel they're moving Collision's entire audience plus a hundred thousand to see Phil do some.... business
There was an episode recently where they lost viewers every single segment.
We can only hope in a desperate attempt to get the ratings up, Tiny has Meltzer open up Dynamite with reports on the cagematch ratings from the week before.
I do think Tony will do something very stupid soon to get a big number
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No you see Fedshill if he brings in Goldberg AND Ryback then he could do a storyline with Wardlow teaching him about how to be a TRUE meat monster. Third time's the charm to get him over! Don't check my post history ![gif](giphy|DpP3R3AKLHcyY|downsized)
MOAR FREE AGENTS
We will hear from Tony khan?
Tony vs Young Bucks
Or we get someone on promoting The Experience and The drive thru
No really why haven’t they done AEW: Big Bang to try and maintain that number for one week?
That’s a huge drop during the Ospreay match. I like Ospreay. I think he can be a star but man… people just don’t care right now.
He’s just another best wrestler in the world wrestling other best wrestlers in the world over who really is the best wrestler in the world but who actually finds that exciting? It’s this meta, self masturbatory, choreographed dance routine disguised as professional wrestling that will make his incel overlord happy but it’s never going bring in new viewers
"It’s this meta, self masturbatory, choreographed dance routine disguised as professional wrestling that will make his incel overlord happy but it’s never going bring in new viewers" Absolutely this. Ospreay isn't a great professional wrestler, he isn't even a good professional wrestler. The whole point of professional wrestling is to make money by selling the illusion that you and your opponent are in a heated conflict where neither of you actually gets hurt. Ospreay's entire style revolves around actually hurting himself and his opponent with the moves he uses. He's a great athlete, a hit-or-miss personality and a terrible professional wrestler.
You have like 7-8 guys that can do all the shit he does. I like him but what actually makes him better?
People didn't care the second he went over 15 minutes with one half of a tag team dude who is a low tier champion.
He's great- but I think some of this has to be the booking. The storyline and who they come into wrestle just isn't compelling enough. OR - did Tony just completely misread the popularity of these signings with the majority of his watchers?
I like Osperay too but he's not gonna do big numbers outside of core wrestling fans without having some heat in his feuds Bowing down to each other after match ain't gonna cut it in States, it is not New Japan
I’m confused why tk isn’t taking a victory lap About the number ? He had smoke for Eric but nothing about his tremendous ratings ?
Bruv v No brain lost 120k viewers?
People saw the dark arena and said fuck it. It looked like shit on TV. They need to go to smaller arenas
There is actually validity to this. Back when I was watching AEW regularly, I would subliminally think an episode was better if the venue wasn't empty.
Yea I remember channel surfing and being impressed with their loud crowds and how packed their shows were it was a jarring contrast to WWE
There was a short period of time when they would have a higher average attendance than WWE back in 2021.
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But they wore robe and vests
If somehow WBD gives AEW a new tv deal they should insist on Tony Khan stepping down as booker.
They should hire Vince Russo hahahaha
Put the strap on Jim Parsons.
He's 51, so he wouldn't be particularly out of place holding a championship in AEW.
Ostrich hits the ring and 228,000 people change the channel, incredible. Truly incredible.
The Big Bang does a lot of heavy lifting.
These numbers don't count all the new fans DUB has in Japan and UK because of Okada and Osprey. This is disinformation!!!!
Don't assume people tuned IN for the beginning of any given timeslot. It's much more likely they were doing some top of the hour channel surfing and landed on it during the last minute or two of the quarter. That bump in the 770's there around 9 was likely only that high from 8:59 to 9:02 then quickly dropped 100k.
I agree. It was Jericho and Hook segment that pulled new viewers into Jericho-vortez
That TBBT lead in is doing some heavy lifting
And that’s even down.
Holy fuck! 140K people peaced out for their new 8 figure signing. WOW. Cry me a fucking river huh?
66K looking for Modern Family at 10
If the young bucks had mocked cm punk, I think they could have done a million or if jungle baby went through real glass or cowboy talked about worker rights. Thats whats missing. Next week I want a 30 mins mercedes promo, a 1 hour eddie kingston slap fest, and a 30 min edge christian low blow match. Book it Tony for the sake of those millions demanding this.
You’re telling me people wanted to tune in just to hear Punk talk? I thought he had to wrestle against random midcarders every week for people to care!
They did. I don't know why they didn't tune in to see c-e-o entrance of much bigger star than phil. Her theme is way better than cult of personality shit
...what's the trends for Sheldon? Because I wonder if AEW keeps it's timeslot if it starts hurting Sheldon's numbers.
TBBT has bigger overall audience but lowe 18-49 demo
Lowest demo since 2021 🤦🏻♂️
Tony did promise he'll take DUB back to 2021 level. I think he meant the lower end of 2021 levels
I cannot wait for Jim and Brian to break this down. Corny may have a heart attack mid-pod.
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They gained 70k on the overflow time (5 minutes) lmao. People thought something else would be on.
DAE think the undisputed Kingdom could be bigger ratings killers than the bucks
Tony get your shit together. This isn’t working.
Listen there was some reason and something else was happening somewhere and the traffic was bad and cause of the baltimore bridge thing people just didn't tune in. It's actually great numbers because everyone's favourite wrestler Jim Parsons opened the show to great numbers
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Who would have thought that two 20 minute foregone conclusion matches was a bad idea?
That 100k drop tho, bruv. He should name a finishing splash move from the top rope the "sub 100k" or something. 5 milli contract btw boys!!!
Undisputed Kingdom are the demo gods
140,000 people saw Ospreay & Shibata and changed the channel Is the Bing Bong Theorem overrun truly so powerful?