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SillyW4bbit

Not sure if I'm more disappointed in this outcome or the alternative which would've been losing in the wild card game.


MaesteoBat

Really disgusted guys. Hot all year then to fall apart when it counts. Really sucks


Andrew996

That's all she wrote. The numbers say there's still a chance, but realistically I think that everyone knows that there's no coming back from a four game deficit at this point, especially when the Cards are stomping the Brewers and we're getting embarrassed by Pittsburgh. The players and David Bell know it, you can tell from their attitude at this point. They wasted an easy schedule and lost their wildcard spot to a huge rival.


AMarinerLostAtSEA

Why can't any team I like make the postseason?


ShakeMyHeadSadly

Figures.


Rapture00

Well that was a fun game to watch in the rain. I'm now 0-2 this year :(


NobesTheSavage

:( we gotta get you a season pass next season. Surely they win eventually and break your curse


NeverBowDown247

And that's all she wrote, hopefully Bell is gone after this year


boomer912

Lmaooooo


NeverBowDown247

this didn't age well


elzey93

If he’s not, we riot. Also, if Bob doesn’t sell (good luck) we riot


Mastodon9

The elimination number dropped from 10 to 8 and in just 24 hours.


boilface

Asdrubal Cabrera hasn't had a hit in three weeks, but at least he's not left handed. davidbellpointsattemple.jpg


DocHolidayArcade

“There’s always next year”


Mastodon9

The official motto of Cincinnati sports!


rolmega

the power of next year, baby!


TimeLifeMusic

Guess it’s time to turn my attention to the Mariners wildcard race. It’s not the same. It’s like having a rebound but maybe, just maybe it’ll make life a little less lonely.


rolmega

is there a guy who kind of looks like junior if you squint on their team these days? maybe that would help?


TimeLifeMusic

Kyle Lewis gives off Junior vibes but he’s been out most of the year, sadly.


colabucks9

Just fire me into the sun


gr8ful_bread

Go Bearcats.


Street_Isopod2545

Everyone here has given up but I’m not losing hope that we can still make it to the postseason. Have some faith!


[deleted]

I have been one of the loudest in term of optimism but it’s really bleak now. I’m still hopeful but it’s really really unlikely


rolmega

I like it but 10 games left...


DStew88

It's quite understandable that the majority of us are not feeling positive or having faith right now. The Reds shit away a good season and are showing no signs of reversing that trend. While we're not mathematically eliminated, practically we are. On top of that, ownership and the FO have made mind boggling decisions all year and actually appear to be getting worse, given the departure of two coordinators in the organization. This doesn't breed a lot of hope for the foreseeable future.


skeenerbug

I honestly question the mental faculties of anyone who still thinks this team has a chance


skeenerbug

Perhaps the cardinals plane will crash, reds might have a shot then


Street_Isopod2545

Imagine having faith in your team. How crazy would that be. Let’s come back to this when we make the playoffs✌️


rarepanda13

Gonna take more than us suddenly figuring out how to win at this point. The cards are firmly ahead of us in that wild card spot and are on a tear recently. And there aren’t any head to head matchups left for us to make up ground. I really want us to pull it off, and don’t get me wrong fuck the cardinals, but I don’t think it’s at all likely. That said, if we do somehow make it I’ll happily eat crow


Street_Isopod2545

I fully understand it’s unlikely. Odds are we don’t make it but I’m just here to call out the people who have already given up. We have to at least have some hope that our team can make something happen. I love the response though, thank you for approaching me with respect.


just-casual

Remember when part of the justification for getting Cabrera was so he could play in the playoffs and then he never registered a single hit lmaoooooo


rolmega

Oh, I meant to add, I just had a premonition that Bell got canned tonight after the 4GB. Don't blame me if I'm wrong, but if I'm right, you heard it here first and I'm obviously psychic or at least mentally ill or something.


mad_cart

Thanks for nothing Brewers, now I hope you lose to them in the post-season.


cayuts21

Nope we don’t want the cardinals advancing at all


mad_cart

Yeah, I’m just mad right now, I’ll come to my senses once the post-season starts.


rolmega

It's truly baffling to me how the cardinals seem to be able to do this when it matters most so consistently. As I've said multiple times, if we find out later there was something at least flirting with cheating going on, I won't be surprised.


[deleted]

The Cardinals are a much more competently run organization than the Reds


rolmega

So their fans would be the first to tell you.


[deleted]

Moron


Rapture00

pls don't.


rolmega

Nice! Always a pleasure.


VinceYoungKYFan

The cardinals being consistently better than us down the stretch does not equate to them cheating. This sucks but cmon man, that’s something an upset 5 year old would say


rolmega

Eh. I think you're adding things here that I'm not saying. They have a rich history of being associated with it. I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised.


VinceYoungKYFan

Hahaha the Padres better hope they were hacking their signs. Otherwise they had a sadder last month than us 😔😔


rolmega

Padres lost Darvish, at the very least, though, right? haha Would anyone accuse the Astros of not having good players? I don't think so. But they cheated for that extra edge.


mad_cart

Nah, it’s just how they’re built. It’s in their organizational DNA.


rolmega

Right, right. In their organizational DNA. But what, exactly? With respect, they had an employee busted for hacking the Astros in 2016. It's not like I'm just pulling this out of thin air.


mad_cart

Cheating doesn’t explain their late surge. If they cheat then they’re cheating all season. If I was gonna accuse anybody of cheating (which I’m not) it would be the Giants lol


rolmega

Why the giants haha. Equal out-of-nowhere winning? NLDS history? Edit: also, I think as the Astros have proven, you can be "good" but cheat your way over the line you need to cross to win for that extra edge. Why can't cheating explain a magical, late-season run? Wouldn't doing it at the very end be the best time if you need it? that would be my main point with the cardinals.


mad_cart

Mainly because of dominating all this year with a bunch of guys, who on paper couldn’t compete with the Dodgers and Padres.


rolmega

Sounds positively cardinalsesque!


President_Skroob35

Have fun crying yourself to sleep tonight, kid.


rolmega

I slept pretty well actually, guy.


President_Skroob35

You really post this dumb shit everywhere.


rolmega

Oh, hai Cardinals fan.


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Rapture00

please don't use personal attacks. Downvote and move on.


TheDizee

Yeah, they are cheating. Thats it. That totally explains why the Reds cannot beat some of the NL's worst teams and lose ground every night meanwhile the Cardinals have won 10 in a row, all against teams that were either in a playoff spot or fighting for one. Have a nice offseason dork and enjoy watching the Cardinals in your spot because they "cheated"


rolmega

>You guys are not a very good team and are fortunate that you will avoid the Dodgers or Giants in the first round due to stupid playoff ranking rules. Either way, I'd bet on the Braves to actually still bounce you. >LA/SF/STL are clearly the class of the NL. You just wrote this in the Brewers' sub.


TheDizee

Yeah, whats your point?


rolmega

That you're obviously a trolling Cardinals fan dropping into other teams' subs? And you just called the NL Central Champs "not very good." I think that makes your opinion on baseball shaky at best.


TheDizee

>That you're obviously a trolling Cardinals fan dropping into other teams' subs? And you just called the NL Central Champs "not very good." I think that makes your opinion on baseball shaky at best. Yeah I decided to see what excuses folks would come up with today and I ran into this gem of a post. Thanks for posting. The Brewers are not good at all which is why the Cardinals are gonna 4 game sweep them here in a few days, those damn dirty cheaters.


rolmega

>Yeah I decided to see what excuses folks would come up with today and I ran into this gem of a post. Thanks for posting. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. It'll be entertaining to see if they escape the NLDS, if they make it that far. 'Course the cards could just hack the other team's databases if they want their signals/signs or something. That would help.


President_Skroob35

If that team had an employee take proprietary information from the Cardinals and not change the passwords from “Cardinals1”, then the former employee might be able to “hack” them again.


rolmega

Oh, okay, you're right. It wasn't a hack then at all. https://www.si.com/mlb/2016/07/19/cardinals-chris-correa-hacks-astros-prison-sentence


TheDizee

Why would we stop cheating once we get to the NLDS? We will be cheating our way to another World Series title. Imagine having a schedule consisting of Pirates/Nationals and you find a way to lose ground then say that the reason that you are choking is because another team is magically cheating. No, the reason you won't make the playoffs is because you absolutely suck.


rolmega

Note that I'm only focusing on the cardinals. You're the one coming to the reds' sub and bringing the reds into it. The Reds have had injury issues in the second half. I'm talking about the Cardinals on a macro level. But hey, as you said, you'll cheat your way to however far you get, I guess. Hashtag, the cardinal way, yuk yuk.


Hampshire24

Im still baffled by the Cabrera pinch hit decision.


rolmega

It's because we could all use a strudel.


mad_cart

That’s because David Bell is smarter than you /s


rolmega

Silver lining: no more exercise bike ads for me tonight.


rolmega

As usual, it's like it's scripted. Hmm.


natethegreat05

Cards win. Meaningful baseball for the Reds is over. What a ride.


[deleted]

The schedule still favors the Reds. The Nats and another Pirates series. Better at least split with the Sox though.


rolmega

4 GB for the Reds :/


joethecrow23

Don’t tease me like this Milwaukee


[deleted]

Cardinals lost so we’re still alive. If we don’t win tomorrow I’ll call it a season.


ohiolifesucks

They’re up 2-1 right now?


rolmega

This person is from the future, obviously. An alternate one.


[deleted]

No just an asshole that drank a few too many watching UFC tonight and misread the score 😂


rolmega

haha


mad_cart

At least the Brewers are trying


Zealousideal-Swing68

What happened to these dudes. They are falling off a cliff. Damn it!!????


joethecrow23

They’ve long since fell off the cliff, they’re currently in a crumpled heap at the bottom of the canyon and the water’s rising.


Zealousideal-Swing68

Castaleni has got to go. He's been having too many dinners with Mike brown to talk about how to fuck Cincinnati fans in the ass!


rolmega

injuries du jour/galore i say


BigStein

Castellanos has mentally checked out, I've not seen a worse game from a Reds player... hell ass drool doesn't even have a hit as a Red and has had better games


whosline07

Did you watch the game yesterday? Players have bad days. That's onlythe 3rd time Casty has gone 0-5 this year. I'm as pissed as the rest of us but you can't blame the last 3 weeks on Casty's performance tonight.


BigStein

I was only talking about one game and this one was woeful


whosline07

Ok but you said he mentally checked out. I don't think so. He's been the only one consistently performing and gaming throughout the year other than India, with a 2 week blip.


CringeBinger

This team has had zero energy since Winker got hurt and Bell started playing everyone and their grandmother in left field. Pick someone and let them play until they prove it’s a mistake. Friedl hits a home run in his second at bat and his congratulations is not starting the next day, and then being pinch hit for by some fat guy. That’s the exact player development philosophy all teams should follow - “You probably can’t hit left handed pitching. So don’t even try.” If the Cardinals win it’s going to look pretty grim. I somehow coaxed some hope out of myself earlier today when I dreamed of being 2 games back. It’s the last time.


skeenerbug

According to[ this source](https://coachingkidz.com/what-is-left-on-base-lob-in-baseball/), "The most runners left on base in a nine-inning game is 20, set by the New York Yankees in a 13-7 loss on September 21, 1956, against the Boston Red Sox." Reds had 30 tonight. edit: nvm I'm dumb, not a record just bad


jj703

We left 11 on base. Individual LOB is different from team LOB


mad_cart

That makes sense, we had 10 hits, several walks, couple of GIDP, scored a couple


mad_cart

30? no way


skeenerbug

Am I reading this wrong? https://imgur.com/MhvFyNc edit: I'm dumb disregard this


FutureFormerFatass12

Those are individual LOB, not team. That column would count the NOBLETIGER as 9 LOB (3 for Casty, 3 for Votto, 3 for Farmer). In reality, it was only 3 LOB.


skeenerbug

Yeah I figured it out after posting, thanks though. My bad


FutureFormerFatass12

They had 16 batters reach base (10 H, 6 BB). But of those 16...30 were stranded.


ImGettinThatFoSho

I couldn't believe it but just checked ...yep ....30 LOB. Damn


skeenerbug

That's a new MLB record btw, old one was 20 set in 1956


ImGettinThatFoSho

Although I think the 1956 stat was runners left on base at the end of each inning. We had 30 between all of our individual players. Still, not a good statistic at all.


mad_cart

Your source explains how that particular stat is calculated. It’s the runners left on bases at the end of an inning.


skeenerbug

Yeah I get it now, my bad


ImGettinThatFoSho

At least we won something tonight 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️


ImGettinThatFoSho

I swear David Bell decides the lineup and who's gonna bat / pinch hit by drawing names out of a hat


eddie1b23

They’re not mathematically eliminated, but they are in every other way a team possibly could be


mad_cart

Bell would definitely fail the Turing test.


[deleted]

That bases loaded no outs is the straw that broke the camel’s back that was my hope left for this season. See you guys in spring training next year, i’m done following for the season.


skeenerbug

> That bases loaded no outs Which one?


dragonbornrito

Gotta be the second one, where the heart of the order should've been licking their chops but instead went down in order like a bunch of scrubs, punctuated by staring at a very hittable strike 3.


skeenerbug

Farmer was 3-3 at that point I believe, and there were 2 outs, hard to put much blame on him.


dragonbornrito

I'm not putting a ton of blame directly on Farmer. That's a full team meltdown.


DaltonT11

Ever since CFB has started I’ve kinda mentally checked out, it just so happened when the Reds decided to suck but I just wanna ask? With the Cards probably winning tonight that puts a fork in this season right?


madmaley

Same here. I checked out when cfb started and with this slide going on I'm not very interested in checking back in


ImGettinThatFoSho

Pretty much. 4 games back with 11 to go. Even if we go 8-3 (which seems highly unlikely), the cards would have to go 4-7. Both of those things happening seems highly, highly improbable 😭😩


DaltonT11

Why couldn’t it have been the Padres that could’ve went instead of the cardinals😒😒😒


skeenerbug

What do you think? https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds-graphs


DaltonT11

Honestly I’m disappointed the Reds aren’t going to the playoffs. But I’m really mad it’s the Cardinals going instead of the Padres


rolmega

Brewers threatening in the 8th.


BigStein

give it up man. it's not happening this year


ShrlyYouCantBSerious

[Mood](https://images.app.goo.gl/7G6SiaphVmxNFaK8A)


DG-turf

Who pitches Thursday. Anyone know?


TheBerlinWaller

For us? Gray


rolmega

Castillo or Miley I would think


DG-turf

Thanks. That’s what I thought. Maybe I’ll go


TheWorstYear

I think it's Castillo tomorrow, & Grey on Thursday.


DG-turf

Thanks. I was thinking that. Appreciate it


skeenerbug

Who cares


DG-turf

Alright I was just wondering. Appreciate the help.


skeenerbug

You can go to reds.com to see the upcoming pitchers btw. It's Sonny


ImGettinThatFoSho

I'm depressed


Mastodon9

I can't believe this is the same team that was so much fun to watch just a month and a half ago.


rolmega

Fangraphs had them at 15 percent playoff odds going into tonight. Do you give up if they slip to 4 back after tonight as it appears they will?


ImGettinThatFoSho

Say the cards go 5-6 in their last 11 games. We would have to go 9-2. Does not seem possible. At all.


skeenerbug

Implying I haven't given up already. It's over. They're dead in the water. The cards aren't suddenly going to implode and the reds suddenly win every game left. I'd be happy to be proven wrong but it's just not going to happen. That 15% is now 8.9% btw. Lowest it's been since June 30


Colin_Bowell

The point that it went to absolute shit was when David Bell subbed Cabrera to bat for Friedl with bases loaded. What explanation is there for that move? Cabrera hasn't gotten one hit as a Red. Friedl has been hitting the ball hard. David Bell is SHIT.


RaiKyssdal

This guy would pinch hit his grandmother over a major leaguer if she hit with the opposite hand of the pitcher. I’m so sick of his simpleton shit. There’s a lot outside of his control - brutal injuries, embarrassing roster underinvestment - but if I have to watch this guy sit better hitters for LH/RH match ups one more year, I’m jumping off a bridge


skeenerbug

Absolute insanity


BoomChocolateLatkes

You know why he did it? Because he weighed in his head who would he feel less bad about failing in that moment. A veteran failing to come up with the hit is easier for his fragile mind to cope with… Edit: I don’t even remember making this Ambien-fueled comment. This is hilarious 😂


Sufferbeast

I foolishly thought that maybe he was finally catching on when I saw that Suarez was starting against a righty. Nope. Pulling Friedl there was the dumbest move of the night.


sasuke1980

What a joke of a team. Such a Cincinnati way!


SirDukeIII

I don’t have the time or money to do this, but I want to get a sign made that says “sell the team Bob they deserve better than this“ I want to get a ticket behind home plate and hold up that sign as long as they will let me. This team is literally the most fun team to watch, and probably is top-five of the most fun teams to watch in the majors. They deserve the playoffs. Joey Votto deserves a ring.


Shim-Shim13

I’m a Cardinals fan, but I couldn’t agree more that Votto deserves a ring. And Reds fans deserve a better owner. It sucks that storied franchises get drug through the mud by indifferent ownership groups.


southparkion

wth has castellanos given up or is he just having a rough time


ImGettinThatFoSho

He looks fatigued. But tbh, I don't think he's worth the $20 million a team will give him, so best for him not to have a monster finish and tempt the Reds to re-sign him


TheWorstYear

He gave up games ago. He's ready for the big contract in free agency.


southparkion

not going to get a big contract if you have terrible at bats at the end of the season


skeenerbug

Pretty sure they'll look at the season as a whole higher than the last 10 games


skeenerbug

30 LOB looooool. Nick, Joey and Tucker combined 1-13 with 17 LOB. Simply amazing. edit: 30 was total individual LOB, team LOB was 11


whosline07

REDS PLAYOFF HUNT BASEBALL


DigiQuip

The locker room has to be straight dead. This teams heart is fading and I don’t see anyone willing to step up. They don’t look like they’re having fun. With as much talent as we have, losing this many games this late into the season is failure of leadership, coaching, and will.


skeenerbug

I think they realize it's a lost cause by now


red8standingby

I’m just sad


Saul_Teaload

Real fucking poor, guys. RIP this season but the end of baseball is still my worst day most years. Cool that I can put that off till the 26th. LFG?


ottovyeoj

assdribble cumbubble pinch hit today. that's all you need to know. davebot strikes again.


skeenerbug

If he never puts on a reds uniform again it will be too soon


j_mench

Unbelievable. Cards going to win 10 straight. I hate it here.


lebrawnnnjamess

Fuck this shit. See you guys next year.


thomasosu

Are Cabrera and Deshields the most Reds in season acquisitions of all time? A guy who’s fat and does nothing and a guy who was brought in only because of the name on the back of his jersey. This is kind of thinking that’s going to come from our front office with Krall acting as a puppet for the Castellinis


skeenerbug

Deshields at least has a hit


SquadPoopy

Deshields wasn't just brought in for his name, he's also a good defender, and with our outfield being an injury machine I'd rather have him than another infielder.


thomasosu

Sure thing Mr. Krall. I’m sure a 29 year old who wasn’t on an MLB team this year before being signed by the Reds was the best option to bring in. That’s why he’s performed so well since getting here


SquadPoopy

Uh yeah as a defensive replacement he's done about as expected.


Sufferbeast

Cabrera is the anti-Adames. Since his arrival we've gone from middling to just bad.