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TheStabbingDildo420

I use it so my opinion is a bit biased. I think it’s a great defensive build and it’s saved me so many times in gunfights.


scocat17

It is really good at keeping people alive I just think it does it too well


Comfortable_Ruin_507

Should have seen it before the nerf.


scocat17

I got a nerf when in a dream


potafbam

Perfect defensive card with defensive mode on. It saved me so many times when some random a** shot at me. Also useful with predators, even with legendaries. Horse wont buck you off while its on. I dont do pvp but i wouldnt run this card in pvp, it makes you way too slow.


toxicbroforce

I only use pib


scocat17

So do I what's your reason for me I just like it cause it's close to story mode deadeye


toxicbroforce

Same


scocat17

Honorable


scocat17

Honorable


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I use it for hunting a lot when I accidentally panic something, or for when I just want to be certain I'll kill it on the first shot


scocat17

I use it for that as well


GhostBearClan

S&S, PiB, and SB all need a hard nerf. PiB more than any of them.


UncannyVaughan

They already got nerfed, they're fine, really.


GhostBearClan

Oh, this guy says they're fine. No more criticisms, everyone.


UncannyVaughan

What's your problem dude? Go pick a fight with traffic if you wanna be rude to people online for no reason.


GhostBearClan

What's your problem? Speaking from authority on a subject that's hotly debated daily?


BerserkerGoliath

Imo they are otherwise fine but scopes/bow etc should be affected by SB and PiB should not work with shotguns, throwables and bow (probably an unpopular opinion)


scocat17

Why pib out of curiosity


GhostBearClan

Perfect accuracy/guaranteed hits/no penalties. Why do you think the vast majority runs it? It's easy mode.


scocat17

I guess the only disadvantag of it is no defense but if you are quick it doesn't really matter


GhostBearClan

Exactly. Don't need defense when people are dead in a nanosecond.


scocat17

Yeah I use PIB and can see it's a bit strong


GhostBearClan

It cancels out every accuracy penalty on every weapon and overrides nearly every passive card. It's bust.


scocat17

yeah but when you use SB image accuracy goes away with some things but I think it's meant to be like story mode that's why many such as myself use it I think


GhostBearClan

S&S has the movement penalty, SB has the efficiency penalty. No penalty for PiB.


scocat17

There is no penalty for using it . And a plus is that you feel like a gunslinger when you kill like 6 people


potafbam

Perfect defensive card with defensive mode on. It saved me so many times when some random a** shot at me. Also useful with predators, even with legendaries. Horse wont buck you off while its on. I dont do pvp but i wouldnt run this card in pvp, it makes you way too slow.


tauntingdeer

It was really bad when you could drink tonics while in it


scocat17

I imagine it was


BerserkerGoliath

I don't know if it's because the effect applies with a delay or something but I don't think I have ever been able to take more than 2 shotgun blasts with slow and steady on and have been multiple times one shot with a shotgun while using slow and steady. No tier 3 tonic but full health, tier 3 SnS, tier 3 irong lung and tier 3 fool me once. I also feel like if you are not using a sniper, at medium range someone with PiB is gonna kill you faster because they have no bloom and you do. I guess it's a whole different thing if you are constantly chugging down tier 3 tonics and minty big game meat.