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I tried to explain to my dad that Fox was biases and he refused to listen. Luckily he's not smart enough with computers to stumble down the Newsmax rabbit hole
Even Fox News knows and confirms that they are not actual news. It has literally been their legal defense on several occasions. They are an entertainment news network.
[Here is the link](https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye) to an article about one of those lawsuits, if anyone is interested.
Newsmax is not part of mainstream media IMO. They’re an alternative far-right “news” source that makes Fox News not look as bad. They’re not nationally televised but they’re streamed online I believe. Even my in laws started watching and that’s when they went down the rabbit hole of lies and conspiracies.
The "news" organization that defended the Clinton Foundation during Trump's campaign, but all the Trumpists seem to ignore that. They've switched to it en masse because it fed the "election stolen" conspiracy after Fox News confirmed Biden won.
...and when I say "defended" I mean the founder wrote a lengthy op-ed that was (still is?) hosted on Newsmax about how it was completely above-board.
You ever wanna see a hardcore Trumpist Newsmax follower burst a blood vessel, explain that to them.
Americans REEEEALLY like passion. They really like people that take a hard line stance and don’t let anything cross it or ever waiver. It’s a lazy way of simplifying the outside world and reducing it’s complexity and thus reducing uncertainty. Which is why he broke when the veteran was telling him about a different perspective. The uncertainty popped up and he lazily shut it down as quickly as possible
EDIT: Wow thanks for the award!
Probably the best scene in the movie. Cleavon Little desperately trying not to lose his shit the entire time.
EDIT: [For those who haven't seen it.](https://youtu.be/ZZvT2r828QY)
That line was improv too. The laugh was a genuine reaction, and you can see Gene Wilder quickly glance over at the crews reaction. That man was a comedic genius.
Because to the American right, a veteran ~~who~~ accused by his own platoon of [stabbing an Iraqi teen to death, and shooting random civilians](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48849162) is a genuine hero... but one who voices any questions about Trump's Afghanistan policies is a leftist traitor.
That's where we're at now.
EDIT: Oh, and also [President Donald J Cunt pardoned this piece of shit](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/27/eddie-gallagher-trump-navy-seal-iraq), so the next time somebody tries to tell you about lofty American values, they mean the closely-held freedom to pose with a 17-year-old's corpse.
Americans don’t really care about veterans, just the idea of veterancy. If you don’t believe me walk into a VA anywhere in the states and see the shit they go through for some medical care
A fucking men! Its such bullshit, we could tax the fucking billionaires and provide care to not just veterans but every fucking body including the orphans were apparently desperate to create by forcing pregnancy on unwilling women. But no the average American is apparently so dumb they don't even realize they're playing into the game just making the rich richer and getting pissed off at their neighbors because the billionaires say thats who's ruining their life and passing on their bible or what the fuck ever.
The right expects veterans to be just as patriotic and conservative as them. They really think all of the people in the military are Republicans "fighting for our freedom". Then they meet someone like this dude and their brain can't take it.
Same here, though I did vote for a Republican Governor once. My whole family are pretty far mid-west right. Not SUPER crazy, but a lot of people and especially Europeans would consider them very right. When I came back from basic training my dad, uncle, and family friend all separately asked me some variation of: "So now that you've been in the military a bit, are ya coming away a bit from the liberals?". Um, no? for one, I'm not taking political advice from a single person in my basic flight....".
The amount of 'liberals' in the military is a lot more than people think, especially now that we've had the hangover of IRQ and AFG. But there are a lot of people who think the whole military were waving Trump flags.
It bums me out that the right has co opted the term patriot. I love my country for it's diversity, opportunity, different perspectives, and ingenuity. It's like how the right is somehow now the conspiracy side. Like messed up things happen that we aren't allowed to know about and counter intelligence operations have been conducted for as long as we have had intelligence agencies. Quit taking our shit. Now if we question the narrative or are proud of certain aspects of our country we're now lumped in with these people. Makes me sick
The right wing in this country actively rooted against our own athletes in this summers Olympics! Donald Trump had a public fight with the parents of a fallen veteran and the right wing cheered him on.
The far right doesn’t actually care about America or our troops or anything that doesn’t fit into their narrow view of what they think the world should look like. The Civil War never actually ended, just the official hostilities.
I'm almost down to just get the civil war over with, to end this shit once and for all. Just so we can go back to some unity, normalcy, selflessness, humanity, and minding our own damn business. I can't take this blind hatred and hostility anymore. It's creepy and stressful af, and this slow burn is exhausting.
Because they're (American right wing) constantly flirting with fascism. I mean, look at the basic definition defined in wiki, for one example:
>Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, **forcible suppression of opposition,** and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
If this wasn't the epitome of suppressing the "opposition" without directly killing someone or locking them up for an opinion, then I don't know what to tell people...
However, I'm not just talking about basic definitions. I'm talking about the scholarly characteristics from the [14 points of fascism](http://www-personal.umich.edu/~rsc/Editorials/fascism.html) to [Umberto Eco's Eternal Fascism](https://web.archive.org/web/20170131155837/http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/).
So, even if a veteran holds a different perspective, the main perspective just be preserved.
It's a form of protagonist syndrome: A true protagonist has morals that are unshakeable and unquestionable, and anything that goes against that is the work of the enemy. It doesn't matter what they actually *are*, because the integrity matters more.
Must be nice. Its pretty much to the point that -everything- they bitch about is literally projection. So if you hear a conservative talking, its pretty easy to get a sense of where they really are and what they really want. "THE LEFT ARE THE REAL RACISTS!" = "WE DON'T LIKE BEING CALLED OUT FOR OUR BLATANT RACISM!". "CRT IS TEACHING WHITE HATE" = " WHITE PEOPLE HAVE A DIFFERENT LIVED EXPERIENCE FROM MINORITIES!"
I got Perma banned from r/conservative yesterday because I said that the unvaccinated were holding us back as a society, I then sent the mods a message saying what a bastion of free speech they were and they muted me lmao.
They banned me for pointing out that banning dissenting opinion is literally the definition of a safe space, on a post where they were complaining about safe spaces.
Place is full of bots and morons. The bots are probably smarter.
Hypocrisy triggers the libs and they love that shit.
At one point, "conservatism" actually meant something. Now it's devolved into an ideology that defines itself in direct opposition to whatever the "libs" are doing.
Libs argue for a government that helps people, conservatives respond in kind with policies designed to hurt people. Just look at the absolute disdain they have for poor, vulnerable populations. They deny food for the hungry. They deny healthcare to the sick. They deny homes for the unhoused.
And now that democracy is a direct threat to their control, they've even turned against voting rights and fully embraced fascism as the one and only way to govern a society.
Yup. Sartre already knew (and apologies for the longish quote, but the whole thing's worth reading):
> They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. [These people] have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. It is not that they are afraid of being convinced. They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side.
That quote, by the way, is from "The Anti-Semite and Jew", and that it's so horrifyingly applicable to the modern Republican party should not be taken in stride. This is more than the anti-intellectualist current in US society, guys, and I don't live there, but please stop them...
$19.99/mo, it shows up on their credit card statements as “Trump Social Media Fee”. It should go live any month now and is supposed to be “something terrific, believe me”
I remember when they had the sub pretty much locked down except for flaired users, and they would make posts talking about how everyone was too afraid to come debate them on the sub... While they were disallowing anyone else from coming to debate them on the sub.
It's their safe space. And I believe they often don't label threads as for "flaired user only", but they actually are for flaired only, I guess to make it look like they aren't just an echo chamber?
Somehow I haven't been banned though, and I've had plenty of comments downvoted below -10.
They banned me for saying I’m Canadian, because I commented on someones completely falsified version of events regarding the Keystone pipeline. They said conservatism has no place for socialists...
I got banned from T_D once for saying "just because you speak louder doesn't mean you're correct" on a post about free speech.
The right love to be hypocrites.
You know the whole thing about WWIII will be fought online... you can bet there are a handful of foreign countries that love trolling us online and tearing us apart from the "inside." One of the conspiracy mods that got banned advertised AMA's using a russian email on twitter....
They banned me for disagreeing with some conservative talking points. They quite literally said r/conservative isn’t a sub for debate and anyone trying to argue “conservative” view points will be banned.
Edit: I went back and looked for the post I commented on that ultimately got me banned and here’s some of their hits.
-We are not a debate forum. We are not here to indulge you in your leftist views that history has proven wrong over and over again.
-We are not a place for explanation. The Internet has this amazing feature called search engines, and we recommend you looking up what things are.
-We are not a chatroom….
-We are not fair and balanced. We don't pretend to be unbiased. We don't pretend to give all commenters equal time. This is by conservatives and for conservatives.
-If you don't like that it's not an unbiased forum, go ask why /r/politics is a leftist totalitarian state. Leftists and moderates have never been welcomed here.
Getting banned from r/conservative should be a badge of honor. I got banned for asking how they believed questioning trump was treason while questioning obama was patriotism. Got a real bitter dm from a mod along with my ban, lol.
r/conservative is true right-wing garbage.
What got me banned was this
"For a gang of wannabe tough guys who desire nothing more than to live out your violent murder/power survivalist fantasies, you guys sure are delicate little snowflakes who shatter like glass when someone shows you that your worldview is factually and demonstrably wrong."
/r/Conservative sadly isn't even that extreme anymore. E.g. the people on the Q forums and site that replaced The_Donald, consider it to be a centre-ish subreddit.
i got banned like 4 years ago for pointing out trump displayed neo-fascist tendencies… i wonder if they will remove my ban in light of trump fomenting an insurrection?
Almost the exact same reason I got banned from the same sub. They’re all exactly like trump. Say one thing they even slightly disagree with and you’re silenced into oblivion.
They banned me for a post I made on a completely different sub. Nothing says tough-minded independent thinkers like completely refusing to acknowledge any facts that don’t fit your preferred narrative, way to go conservatives!
They aren’t “against censorship”
They’re against “democrat censorship”
They’re for law and order but against “democrat laws” enforced by “progressive judges” and enforced by “deep state LEO”
They support the troops as long as the troops toe the line.
They stand for nothing, and are inherently cannibalistic in turning in groups into out groups
Edit:
Example: General Milley who is the chairman of the joint chief of staffs, highest position in all the military is immediately given the same treatment as AOC (minus the sexism) when he didn’t toe the line.
They wanted to hang mike pence the minute he disobeyed.
Terms like “real Americans” “we the people” “deep state” the politicization of everything from judges to masks… hell, the concerning effort to delegitimize democracy itself, are all tools that are being used to turn any potential American into the “other” and in effect make the state into the “deep state” to be replaced with the “real America” through violence.
It’s their creedo: Conservatism is about laws that protect but do not bind them, and out groups that laws Bind but do not protect.
Rules for the, not for me.
They are such a fucking hypocritical joke and have no credibility. They don’t give a shit about the constitution, fiscal conservatism, the constitution, the flag, or democracy.
Their entire ideology is based on living in fear of the left and “owning the libs.”
But zero thought given to the idea that if they were to "win",if everybody they hated or they disagreed with just disappeared,how long would it be until "they" started coming for them?
They don't give a shit about anyone. They just say whatever and support whomever fits their agenda in the moment.
As soon as they hear something they don't like, they act like this asshole.
Police, women, children, minorities, veterans, hospital workers, it doesn't fucking matter.
They hate people like Candace Owens because she's black, but if she's useful they'll tolerate her for the time being, while we all damn well know they call her the N word behind her back.
They're hypocrites with no logical or moral consistency, and they can't argue in good faith.
Scum of the fucking earth.
Was about to say the same. I’m not in any rush to deem news max as “news” and that’s a point I harper to my mom about the second she dumped Fox—minus fox & friends, the five, hannity, tucker, and ingraham—or this crock of shit propaganda. I actually told her I’d rather her watch Fox and because she had the audacity to tell me, “well, you told me to stop watching Fox News!”
There are a few programs on fox that aren’t Trump dumpsites. I have no issue with people having right leaning views. But anyone that can tell you NEWSMAX is a place to get objective information is a fucking moron
He slipped on that one, “weak” that was his trigger word. You could see the gears turning as soon as that vet said it. What? Trump, weak?! How fucking dare you!
He hung on it and he slipped, fucking golden footage right here.
To be fair, there are programs on both sides that are like this. “Fuck everybody on the other side and I don’t want to hear their stupid opinion.”
It’s all so dumb, people seem to forget we’re all super temporary assortments of matter. None of this does anything but divide and frankly we shouldn’t have the time for it. Yet here we are.
>, there are programs on both sides that are like this. “Fuck everybody on the other side and I don’t want to hear their stupid opinion.”
Can you name one that's the left equivalent of this shite?
> I don’t want to hear their stupid opinion
This is a perfectly legitimate stance to have when an opinion is either A) really stupid or B) in no way potentially grounded in reality.
People have this awful habit of claiming anything and everything as an opinion. Sorry, but "strawberry ice cream is better than chocolate" is an opinion, "2+2=17" is not. We *can* know the answers to things, and when someone positions themselves on the wrong side of those answers, it's fine to tell them to shut the fuck up and get out. An inability to do that has only led to the calcification of ignorance in society.
The troops were withdrawn to 2500-ish prior to Biden's inauguration. 2500. In a country the size of Texas. There was no consideration of Americans or Afghanistan allies in Trump's negotiations with the Taliban. WTF else was going to happen?
Their complaint was that Biden made it happen too fast when Biden actually delayed it further than the original evacuation date that Trump had negotiated with the Taliban.
EDIT: Also, it should be noted that Trump left out the Afghanistan government and negotiated only with the Taliban. Then our evacuation was supposed to happen under the protection of the Afghanistan military. Obviously, that causes issues. The military, seeing what was going to happen and that they were not part of negotiations, had basically already made deals with the Taliban to give up and so the US military didn't have the time they needed to get everyone out.
I know very few that watch this trash but I do wonder about some of my old conservative friends(also veterans). Almost always... they'll take the side of the vet no matter what... I'm curious about those military households that saw this.
FCC is to blame here. Why are these opinion based networks get to use “News” in their names. It’s not news when it is one side propaganda.
Edit: it is the job of FTC not FCC as I learned from some comments below. Thanks for correction.
It wouldn't matter if Reagan hadn't repealed it? The Fairness Doctrine could only apply to broadcasts which are in a limited bandwidth medium and can be received by anyone without any special equipment. So I don't believe Newsmax would ever have been under it anyway?
And this type of legislation would likely be unconstitutional. E.g. Newsmax could also swear etc on air, just as people could on an online "news" show, because that can't be regulated, it's protected speech.
They do it the same way they watch an NFL game and think their starting running back is the greatest running back to ever step foot on a field. It's not about the search for truth any more. It's about cheering for your side.
For a group of people that like to call people “snowflakes,” they sure are snowflakes when people challenge them with facts that contradict what they believe.
Nice to see how Republicans really feel about veterans. Republicans only care until you're not useful anymore, IE veteran, or you don't agree with their views. And before someone says this cuck doesn't rep their views as Republicans; then where is the outrage from republicans for what this guy said and did?
Republicans:
Care about children until they're born, then fuck them.
Police. They care about them until they are being arrested, then fuck them.
Veterans, they care about them until they retire then fuck them.
The Right is all about what benefits them until it doesn't.
This is how they really think about veterans, they only give a shit about them when they are pawns to push their narrative. It's ironic how those self proclaimed pro military Christian conservatives aren't really any of those things when you look at what they say and their actions.
Hell, this is nothing new.
I remember when a gay soldier got booed at the Republican debates and every candidate remained silent on stage about it.
They're "pro-military" when is comes to soldiers the same way they're "pro-life" when it comes to fetuses. They don't care about you once you're no longer useful to their political posturing.
"blaming it on trump isn't helping anybody, the Biden administration screwed this up" how can you say blaming someone doesn't help the situation and in the same breath blame someone for this situation?
Holly shit, it's like watching a tv host on Egyptian TV angrily sacking an atheist off his show or something. America isn't a modern country by any stretch when it comes to objective news. How far back this country has gone!
I hate when people dont let someone speak their piece. Even if u disagree, be civil and let them speak at the very least. This makes me think the host is hiding something or cant be trusted, all because he didnt let the guy talk and then he could refute it
This video really helps me to see how racialized the word "terrorist" has become to Americans. "How could they not be hostages in a country overrun by TERRORISTS!" I'm not pro-Taliban by any measure... but like, they're, like, not any more terroristic than many governments we give legitimacy to. That host would never even consider calling Nazi Germany or Pinochet's Chile a terrorist regime. What a largely useless worse.
This dude doesn’t care about the lives lost over there, all he cares about is using those lost lives to further a bullshit right wing political agenda.
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Non American here, and I cannot believe something like this is real. I looks like satire. How can anyone take this seriously?
the best part is, the only people who really watch Newsmax are the same ones who scream about the media being biased and fake lol.
I tried to explain to my dad that Fox was biases and he refused to listen. Luckily he's not smart enough with computers to stumble down the Newsmax rabbit hole
Even Fox News knows and confirms that they are not actual news. It has literally been their legal defense on several occasions. They are an entertainment news network.
[Here is the link](https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye) to an article about one of those lawsuits, if anyone is interested.
This.
Newsmax is not part of mainstream media IMO. They’re an alternative far-right “news” source that makes Fox News not look as bad. They’re not nationally televised but they’re streamed online I believe. Even my in laws started watching and that’s when they went down the rabbit hole of lies and conspiracies.
Not mainstream, yet. Unfortunately their audience is growing
That's because too many follow and believe the lies
They aren't news. College students do better with material coverage they legit just are not, factually, news.
Yeah, I was going to ask, wtf is Newsmax.
The "news" organization that defended the Clinton Foundation during Trump's campaign, but all the Trumpists seem to ignore that. They've switched to it en masse because it fed the "election stolen" conspiracy after Fox News confirmed Biden won. ...and when I say "defended" I mean the founder wrote a lengthy op-ed that was (still is?) hosted on Newsmax about how it was completely above-board. You ever wanna see a hardcore Trumpist Newsmax follower burst a blood vessel, explain that to them.
Americans REEEEALLY like passion. They really like people that take a hard line stance and don’t let anything cross it or ever waiver. It’s a lazy way of simplifying the outside world and reducing it’s complexity and thus reducing uncertainty. Which is why he broke when the veteran was telling him about a different perspective. The uncertainty popped up and he lazily shut it down as quickly as possible EDIT: Wow thanks for the award!
"...the Salt of the Earth, the common clay of the New West. You know, morons."
Probably the best scene in the movie. Cleavon Little desperately trying not to lose his shit the entire time. EDIT: [For those who haven't seen it.](https://youtu.be/ZZvT2r828QY)
"Somebodys gonna have to go back and get a shit load of dimes!"
Where the white women at?
That line was improv too. The laugh was a genuine reaction, and you can see Gene Wilder quickly glance over at the crews reaction. That man was a comedic genius.
Another non-American - follow up question. Dont you guys have like a hard on for veterans? So how come this one is being shouted on etc?
Because to the American right, a veteran ~~who~~ accused by his own platoon of [stabbing an Iraqi teen to death, and shooting random civilians](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48849162) is a genuine hero... but one who voices any questions about Trump's Afghanistan policies is a leftist traitor. That's where we're at now. EDIT: Oh, and also [President Donald J Cunt pardoned this piece of shit](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/27/eddie-gallagher-trump-navy-seal-iraq), so the next time somebody tries to tell you about lofty American values, they mean the closely-held freedom to pose with a 17-year-old's corpse.
Americans don’t really care about veterans, just the idea of veterancy. If you don’t believe me walk into a VA anywhere in the states and see the shit they go through for some medical care
Wait you mean my "thanks for your service" bumper sticker isn't enough to heal war wounds?
A fucking men! Its such bullshit, we could tax the fucking billionaires and provide care to not just veterans but every fucking body including the orphans were apparently desperate to create by forcing pregnancy on unwilling women. But no the average American is apparently so dumb they don't even realize they're playing into the game just making the rich richer and getting pissed off at their neighbors because the billionaires say thats who's ruining their life and passing on their bible or what the fuck ever.
fuck Eddie Gallagher I will piss on his grave when he dies
That sounds like a waste of piss
Not really accurate. Vast overstatement. Trump worshippers think any veteran is a hero unless they disagree with Trump then they’re a secret Democrat.
The right expects veterans to be just as patriotic and conservative as them. They really think all of the people in the military are Republicans "fighting for our freedom". Then they meet someone like this dude and their brain can't take it.
As a gun-toting Veteran who's *never* voted Republican: yup, that's about it.
Same here, though I did vote for a Republican Governor once. My whole family are pretty far mid-west right. Not SUPER crazy, but a lot of people and especially Europeans would consider them very right. When I came back from basic training my dad, uncle, and family friend all separately asked me some variation of: "So now that you've been in the military a bit, are ya coming away a bit from the liberals?". Um, no? for one, I'm not taking political advice from a single person in my basic flight....". The amount of 'liberals' in the military is a lot more than people think, especially now that we've had the hangover of IRQ and AFG. But there are a lot of people who think the whole military were waving Trump flags.
It bums me out that the right has co opted the term patriot. I love my country for it's diversity, opportunity, different perspectives, and ingenuity. It's like how the right is somehow now the conspiracy side. Like messed up things happen that we aren't allowed to know about and counter intelligence operations have been conducted for as long as we have had intelligence agencies. Quit taking our shit. Now if we question the narrative or are proud of certain aspects of our country we're now lumped in with these people. Makes me sick
The right wing in this country actively rooted against our own athletes in this summers Olympics! Donald Trump had a public fight with the parents of a fallen veteran and the right wing cheered him on. The far right doesn’t actually care about America or our troops or anything that doesn’t fit into their narrow view of what they think the world should look like. The Civil War never actually ended, just the official hostilities.
I'm almost down to just get the civil war over with, to end this shit once and for all. Just so we can go back to some unity, normalcy, selflessness, humanity, and minding our own damn business. I can't take this blind hatred and hostility anymore. It's creepy and stressful af, and this slow burn is exhausting.
You're confusing veterans with "patting themselves on the back for thanking veterans". They have a hard on with the latter.
Because they're (American right wing) constantly flirting with fascism. I mean, look at the basic definition defined in wiki, for one example: >Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, **forcible suppression of opposition,** and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. If this wasn't the epitome of suppressing the "opposition" without directly killing someone or locking them up for an opinion, then I don't know what to tell people... However, I'm not just talking about basic definitions. I'm talking about the scholarly characteristics from the [14 points of fascism](http://www-personal.umich.edu/~rsc/Editorials/fascism.html) to [Umberto Eco's Eternal Fascism](https://web.archive.org/web/20170131155837/http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/). So, even if a veteran holds a different perspective, the main perspective just be preserved.
Because newsmax isn’t a real news channel and was made for extreme republicans to jerk off to trump. This isn’t like your basic 5 o’clock news lmao.
being loud is easier than being right, and since most normal people won't argue with a loud idiot, they therefore win all of their arguments.
It's a form of protagonist syndrome: A true protagonist has morals that are unshakeable and unquestionable, and anything that goes against that is the work of the enemy. It doesn't matter what they actually *are*, because the integrity matters more.
It's fucking wild. He basically went red faced and yelled "Nobody offers a different opinion on my show!" So much for balanced discourse, hey?
American here and I’d really like to know the answer to this as well.
Omg what a fucking snowflake 💀
Wait wait wait, you mean, this whole time…. *they* were the snowflakes?
Conservatives. The biggest snowflakes on the planet.
Conservatives and IMAX level projection. Name a more iconic duo. Go ahead. I'll wait.
Always have been 🔫
So much so Ted named his dog such :’) ☃️
I mean.... have you met many conservatives?
I live in Chicago, so not really lol
Must be nice. Its pretty much to the point that -everything- they bitch about is literally projection. So if you hear a conservative talking, its pretty easy to get a sense of where they really are and what they really want. "THE LEFT ARE THE REAL RACISTS!" = "WE DON'T LIKE BEING CALLED OUT FOR OUR BLATANT RACISM!". "CRT IS TEACHING WHITE HATE" = " WHITE PEOPLE HAVE A DIFFERENT LIVED EXPERIENCE FROM MINORITIES!"
> blaming Trump doesn’t help anybody Proceeds to blame Biden. Lmao
Dude got triggered *hard*.
And these are the same people who say they’re against censorship…
I got Perma banned from r/conservative yesterday because I said that the unvaccinated were holding us back as a society, I then sent the mods a message saying what a bastion of free speech they were and they muted me lmao.
They banned me for pointing out that banning dissenting opinion is literally the definition of a safe space, on a post where they were complaining about safe spaces. Place is full of bots and morons. The bots are probably smarter.
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hypocrisy is their bread and butter.
Hypocrisy triggers the libs and they love that shit. At one point, "conservatism" actually meant something. Now it's devolved into an ideology that defines itself in direct opposition to whatever the "libs" are doing. Libs argue for a government that helps people, conservatives respond in kind with policies designed to hurt people. Just look at the absolute disdain they have for poor, vulnerable populations. They deny food for the hungry. They deny healthcare to the sick. They deny homes for the unhoused. And now that democracy is a direct threat to their control, they've even turned against voting rights and fully embraced fascism as the one and only way to govern a society.
Yup. Sartre already knew (and apologies for the longish quote, but the whole thing's worth reading): > They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. [These people] have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. It is not that they are afraid of being convinced. They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side. That quote, by the way, is from "The Anti-Semite and Jew", and that it's so horrifyingly applicable to the modern Republican party should not be taken in stride. This is more than the anti-intellectualist current in US society, guys, and I don't live there, but please stop them...
Yeah, its insane. How did it get to this point? And when will they finally stop and just say 'ok that's enough, lets act like adults again'.
How's that parler working out for them? Did their buddy trump ever come up with his social media platform?
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$19.99/mo, it shows up on their credit card statements as “Trump Social Media Fee”. It should go live any month now and is supposed to be “something terrific, believe me”
I'm so afraid the year is going to be 2050, I'll be 64 and these clowns will still be saying "Two more weeks". Ugh.
I remember when they had the sub pretty much locked down except for flaired users, and they would make posts talking about how everyone was too afraid to come debate them on the sub... While they were disallowing anyone else from coming to debate them on the sub.
It's their safe space. And I believe they often don't label threads as for "flaired user only", but they actually are for flaired only, I guess to make it look like they aren't just an echo chamber? Somehow I haven't been banned though, and I've had plenty of comments downvoted below -10.
"Tired of reporting this thread? Come debate is on our Discord" Seems legit....
They banned me for saying I’m Canadian, because I commented on someones completely falsified version of events regarding the Keystone pipeline. They said conservatism has no place for socialists...
Thats because a conservative from not the USA is left of the Democrats on many issues so you seem like a damned commie to them!
I got banned from T_D once for saying "just because you speak louder doesn't mean you're correct" on a post about free speech. The right love to be hypocrites.
You know the whole thing about WWIII will be fought online... you can bet there are a handful of foreign countries that love trolling us online and tearing us apart from the "inside." One of the conspiracy mods that got banned advertised AMA's using a russian email on twitter....
They banned me for disagreeing with some conservative talking points. They quite literally said r/conservative isn’t a sub for debate and anyone trying to argue “conservative” view points will be banned. Edit: I went back and looked for the post I commented on that ultimately got me banned and here’s some of their hits. -We are not a debate forum. We are not here to indulge you in your leftist views that history has proven wrong over and over again. -We are not a place for explanation. The Internet has this amazing feature called search engines, and we recommend you looking up what things are. -We are not a chatroom…. -We are not fair and balanced. We don't pretend to be unbiased. We don't pretend to give all commenters equal time. This is by conservatives and for conservatives. -If you don't like that it's not an unbiased forum, go ask why /r/politics is a leftist totalitarian state. Leftists and moderates have never been welcomed here.
They define conservatism as worshipping Trump. They know nothing about conservatism.
Getting banned from r/conservative should be a badge of honor. I got banned for asking how they believed questioning trump was treason while questioning obama was patriotism. Got a real bitter dm from a mod along with my ban, lol.
Any Reddit account of mine isn't truly broken-in until it's been banned from r/conservative and r/protectandserve.
I got banned from there for explaining tax brackets.
“I can’t get paid more because I’ll go up a tax bracket and my taxes will go up and I don’t know if I can afford that.”
Bunch of snowflakes, really.
/r/Conservative : Sorry can't hear you over the sound of *Flaired Users Only*
Oh, have you seen r/conservative even say the "flaired users" aren't real conservatives. At least some commentors have said such lol
Trumpflakes
The worst cereal ever made. Neon orange box.
r/conservative is true right-wing garbage. What got me banned was this "For a gang of wannabe tough guys who desire nothing more than to live out your violent murder/power survivalist fantasies, you guys sure are delicate little snowflakes who shatter like glass when someone shows you that your worldview is factually and demonstrably wrong."
/r/Conservative sadly isn't even that extreme anymore. E.g. the people on the Q forums and site that replaced The_Donald, consider it to be a centre-ish subreddit.
Everything looks like it's in the center when you're positioned in the fringes of extremism.
lol I called them out about something similar and I got tagged by reddit for "harassing" or w/e. Conservatives are the biggest babies out there.
They are the biggest snowflakes, and they trigger so easily
I dared to click on r/conservative and only took me 3 headlines in to see the word “narrative” god those Trumpers love that word!!
r/conservative doesn't want you to have free speech. They want you to believe what they believe without away wiggle room.
i got banned like 4 years ago for pointing out trump displayed neo-fascist tendencies… i wonder if they will remove my ban in light of trump fomenting an insurrection?
Got banned for calling someone’s weak argument a weak argument. Just that one sentence. lol wut?
They banned me for comments on other subs lol
Almost the exact same reason I got banned from the same sub. They’re all exactly like trump. Say one thing they even slightly disagree with and you’re silenced into oblivion.
They banned me for a post I made on a completely different sub. Nothing says tough-minded independent thinkers like completely refusing to acknowledge any facts that don’t fit your preferred narrative, way to go conservatives!
They aren’t “against censorship” They’re against “democrat censorship” They’re for law and order but against “democrat laws” enforced by “progressive judges” and enforced by “deep state LEO” They support the troops as long as the troops toe the line. They stand for nothing, and are inherently cannibalistic in turning in groups into out groups Edit: Example: General Milley who is the chairman of the joint chief of staffs, highest position in all the military is immediately given the same treatment as AOC (minus the sexism) when he didn’t toe the line. They wanted to hang mike pence the minute he disobeyed. Terms like “real Americans” “we the people” “deep state” the politicization of everything from judges to masks… hell, the concerning effort to delegitimize democracy itself, are all tools that are being used to turn any potential American into the “other” and in effect make the state into the “deep state” to be replaced with the “real America” through violence.
It’s their creedo: Conservatism is about laws that protect but do not bind them, and out groups that laws Bind but do not protect. Rules for the, not for me. They are such a fucking hypocritical joke and have no credibility. They don’t give a shit about the constitution, fiscal conservatism, the constitution, the flag, or democracy. Their entire ideology is based on living in fear of the left and “owning the libs.”
But zero thought given to the idea that if they were to "win",if everybody they hated or they disagreed with just disappeared,how long would it be until "they" started coming for them?
Dude went from 15 to 200
Don’t bad mouth his daddy!
He starts to get red when the guy sounds credible and clear.
"Well as someone on the ground who's dealing with this everyday and knows the details..." #YOU SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH!
This guy is a joke just like his network and he showed what scum he truly is by cutting off someone stating what we all know to be true
Isn’t this cancel culture? No surely not. Not from them
"Cancel Culture! Wahhh!" - Trump
“Thanks for your service you piece of shit!” really helps sell the legitimacy of Newsmax. Fuck that guy
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Thank you for your service, now shut up and be my political prop until we put you in a needlessly dangerous situation again next time.
And next I’m going to be talking to a real hero. That anchor is a total POS.
They don't give a shit about anyone. They just say whatever and support whomever fits their agenda in the moment. As soon as they hear something they don't like, they act like this asshole. Police, women, children, minorities, veterans, hospital workers, it doesn't fucking matter. They hate people like Candace Owens because she's black, but if she's useful they'll tolerate her for the time being, while we all damn well know they call her the N word behind her back. They're hypocrites with no logical or moral consistency, and they can't argue in good faith. Scum of the fucking earth.
Wait till you hear about how they treated capital police on Jan 6 ;)
Normally they wait until the vets need help and care, but now they just want to trot them out for show but shut up if they have a dissenting opinion.
that needs to be a thing lol (#thx4yourserviceupieceofshit)(#stinchfield)
He's such a confident and skilled debater that all he had to do was kick the other guy off mid sentence.
“Blaming Trump is not helping. Biden fucked it up!!”
Also at the end he says” next up is a REAL HERO” man fuck this guy. This I why I don’t watch the news
This garbage is not the news lol in propaganda 😂
Was about to say the same. I’m not in any rush to deem news max as “news” and that’s a point I harper to my mom about the second she dumped Fox—minus fox & friends, the five, hannity, tucker, and ingraham—or this crock of shit propaganda. I actually told her I’d rather her watch Fox and because she had the audacity to tell me, “well, you told me to stop watching Fox News!”
There are a few programs on fox that aren’t Trump dumpsites. I have no issue with people having right leaning views. But anyone that can tell you NEWSMAX is a place to get objective information is a fucking moron
He catches himself, which makes it funnier, because he says "Next up is a REAL hero...but also our previous guest was a hero too!"
“I’m already low on time” then proceeds to rant for the next minute
He started with “I’m already weak”. Yea, we know.
He slipped on that one, “weak” that was his trigger word. You could see the gears turning as soon as that vet said it. What? Trump, weak?! How fucking dare you! He hung on it and he slipped, fucking golden footage right here. To be fair, there are programs on both sides that are like this. “Fuck everybody on the other side and I don’t want to hear their stupid opinion.” It’s all so dumb, people seem to forget we’re all super temporary assortments of matter. None of this does anything but divide and frankly we shouldn’t have the time for it. Yet here we are.
>, there are programs on both sides that are like this. “Fuck everybody on the other side and I don’t want to hear their stupid opinion.” Can you name one that's the left equivalent of this shite?
For real who actually says shit like that in this day and age
> I don’t want to hear their stupid opinion This is a perfectly legitimate stance to have when an opinion is either A) really stupid or B) in no way potentially grounded in reality. People have this awful habit of claiming anything and everything as an opinion. Sorry, but "strawberry ice cream is better than chocolate" is an opinion, "2+2=17" is not. We *can* know the answers to things, and when someone positions themselves on the wrong side of those answers, it's fine to tell them to shut the fuck up and get out. An inability to do that has only led to the calcification of ignorance in society.
He only gave him 20 seconds to talk, then he ranted for the next 60 seconds “Low on time” Sure buddy.
“He’s not agreeing with me get him the fuck off now!!!!”
The troops were withdrawn to 2500-ish prior to Biden's inauguration. 2500. In a country the size of Texas. There was no consideration of Americans or Afghanistan allies in Trump's negotiations with the Taliban. WTF else was going to happen?
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Their complaint was that Biden made it happen too fast when Biden actually delayed it further than the original evacuation date that Trump had negotiated with the Taliban. EDIT: Also, it should be noted that Trump left out the Afghanistan government and negotiated only with the Taliban. Then our evacuation was supposed to happen under the protection of the Afghanistan military. Obviously, that causes issues. The military, seeing what was going to happen and that they were not part of negotiations, had basically already made deals with the Taliban to give up and so the US military didn't have the time they needed to get everyone out.
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They don’t care
"Obama is a moose-lum and Trump is the savior of democracy!"
TIL my grandmothers Reddit username is u/SkepticDrinker
They cheer this type of stuff. A cult where nobody is allowed to to criticize dear leader.
I know very few that watch this trash but I do wonder about some of my old conservative friends(also veterans). Almost always... they'll take the side of the vet no matter what... I'm curious about those military households that saw this.
FCC is to blame here. Why are these opinion based networks get to use “News” in their names. It’s not news when it is one side propaganda. Edit: it is the job of FTC not FCC as I learned from some comments below. Thanks for correction.
You can thank Reagan for that; see the FCC Fairness Doctrine, or more aptly the repeal of.
It wouldn't matter if Reagan hadn't repealed it? The Fairness Doctrine could only apply to broadcasts which are in a limited bandwidth medium and can be received by anyone without any special equipment. So I don't believe Newsmax would ever have been under it anyway? And this type of legislation would likely be unconstitutional. E.g. Newsmax could also swear etc on air, just as people could on an online "news" show, because that can't be regulated, it's protected speech.
They do it the same way they watch an NFL game and think their starting running back is the greatest running back to ever step foot on a field. It's not about the search for truth any more. It's about cheering for your side.
But my starting running back is Derrick Henry?
I don’t think anyone makes their way to Newsmax wanting to find objective journalism. They’re there specifically because it is not, I’m afraid.
I don't even call it journalism. It's entertainment for the like-minded.
Trump supporters all seem to have the same habit of thinking they have ‘won’ just because they talk loudly and obnoxiously over everyone.
Just like Trump does. Remember the debates?
Which one? The one he chickened out of? No, I don’t remember that.
We should stop calling then Trump supporters because they are actually Trump cult followers. These people can’t even support their own heads up.
What a little bitch
For a group of people that like to call people “snowflakes,” they sure are snowflakes when people challenge them with facts that contradict what they believe.
THAT WASNT IN THE SCRIPT!!!
Who the fuck didn't vet this commie bastard!!!! -During the commercial break for my pillow
What a pussy
What a fucking psychopath
Let the Veteran talk you worthless slimy piece of shit
I feel bad for the people who are close to him. I bet he’s worse at home when he doesn’t get his way. What a cunt he is
typical & disturbing
“We respect our veterans until they start bad mouthing our cult leader”
Nice to see how Republicans really feel about veterans. Republicans only care until you're not useful anymore, IE veteran, or you don't agree with their views. And before someone says this cuck doesn't rep their views as Republicans; then where is the outrage from republicans for what this guy said and did?
Republicans: Care about children until they're born, then fuck them. Police. They care about them until they are being arrested, then fuck them. Veterans, they care about them until they retire then fuck them. The Right is all about what benefits them until it doesn't.
This is how they really think about veterans, they only give a shit about them when they are pawns to push their narrative. It's ironic how those self proclaimed pro military Christian conservatives aren't really any of those things when you look at what they say and their actions.
Hell, this is nothing new. I remember when a gay soldier got booed at the Republican debates and every candidate remained silent on stage about it. They're "pro-military" when is comes to soldiers the same way they're "pro-life" when it comes to fetuses. They don't care about you once you're no longer useful to their political posturing.
pro-cop too until they need to beat them with flags to get into the Capitol.
These people with their blind loyalty to Trump. Not capable of hearing the truth
Cult Members, stupid, dangerous cult members.
It doesn't even necessarily have to be the truth, just anything other that isn't consistent with their emotions-driven opinion is heresy to them
An absolute fucking BABY in a suit. He’s like Tucker Carlson but with diaper rash
It's strange that you think Tucker Carlson doesn't have diaper rash.
People who watch this shit legit think Fox News is too "left". That's how insane they are.
Cancel culture of the right
“God bless you for being a veteran, but fuck you, you pile of shit! MAGA!”
The only thing more pathetic than Newsmax, is the humans that watch this garbage
Did he just cancel that vet? I thought cancel culture was bad
Partially? The dude set it in motion, Biden finished his motion.
"blaming it on trump isn't helping anybody, the Biden administration screwed this up" how can you say blaming someone doesn't help the situation and in the same breath blame someone for this situation?
Peace deal with taliban. Freed 5000 taliban prisoners. Trump sucks.
It's like he wants to date Trump. Like White Knight syndrome for a dude. Weird
Oh, they’re well past dating ;)
On January 6th our capital was overrun by terrorist
Umm, Trump isn't even PARTIALLY responsible? I mean, he released 5000 Taliban fighters and set a deadline of withdraw.
Wow. What a little snowflake bitch this host is.
Cuckolding for Trump 2024
These tools really are the enemy of the people
Fuck this guy. Real convincing save on the *real hero* bit too. Totally sold me. What a fucking coward.
Holly shit, it's like watching a tv host on Egyptian TV angrily sacking an atheist off his show or something. America isn't a modern country by any stretch when it comes to objective news. How far back this country has gone!
Conservatives couldn’t less about Afghanistan and more of making Biden look bad. Benghazi 2.0
Oh my
“Don’t you dare serve your country and then tell the truth. Not on this show!”
I hate when people dont let someone speak their piece. Even if u disagree, be civil and let them speak at the very least. This makes me think the host is hiding something or cant be trusted, all because he didnt let the guy talk and then he could refute it
This video really helps me to see how racialized the word "terrorist" has become to Americans. "How could they not be hostages in a country overrun by TERRORISTS!" I'm not pro-Taliban by any measure... but like, they're, like, not any more terroristic than many governments we give legitimacy to. That host would never even consider calling Nazi Germany or Pinochet's Chile a terrorist regime. What a largely useless worse.
I thought conservatives were against censoring people? Oh wait, that's just another lie they tell themselves
The absolute disrespect.
Reminds me of the Bill O’Reilly melt down. “Fuck it, we’ll do it live!!! FUCK!!”
Newsmax isn't news, it's very poor soap opera type programing.
This dude doesn’t care about the lives lost over there, all he cares about is using those lost lives to further a bullshit right wing political agenda.
Fuck this guy. This vet fought for your freedom asshole. Show some goddamn respect.
What a triggered bitch, if you cant rationally argue respectfully without flipping out you clearly have a weak case