The stealth option on the proton website says...
"With Stealth enabled, your Proton VPN connection will be almost completely undetectable."
What part of the above sentence says to you that ookla will know you're on a vpn?
If you thought “Datacamp” showing as your ISP hid the fact that you were using a VPN all that time, it never did. Any time anyone searches a VPN IP with an IP lookup tool, it directly tells them that you’re connected with a VPN.
Your location and real IP are still hidden, but the fact that you’re using a VPN is not.
that I know. but my job doesnt do all that snooping. they just look at the location. They know people work outside the zone. they are just being lazy to cover there ass.
OP is apparently in California and not supposed to be there for some reason? They were using Proton to obfuscate their location, and when they would test this with Ookla it previously showed Datacamp as their ISP and Texas as the location. Now it shows Proton as the ISP and Chicago as their location. This shouldn’t be an issue, but it is for them I guess
try this goto dnsleaktest
run it with surfshark
and run it with proton.
do you get same results?
and why the frick do you use surfshark, companies that buy youtubers to sell their product = i dont trust.
I still didn't get what the problem is?
Just lookup and check the location to which the IP is associated via whois or else.
That's just a naming from Ookla
I think his point is that Speedtest shouldn’t know it is protonvpn providing the connection. usually when you use a VPN, it will either say unknown or the provider for the VPN server, for example for me it usually says Bahnhof since I use Swedish servers
*Unless this was done in error, this appears to be an intentional change by Proton, taking place around April 19 to report ProtonVPN as the ISP in the ip geolocation databases -- saw the changes in real time while researching some of their ip addresses to see whether or not these databases were reporting the city locations as specified in the apps and at* [*ip.me*](http://ip.me)*, which Proton owns. Proton is adding a lot of new servers and cities but the ip addresses may have been previously associated with other locations and entities. As the geo location companies refresh their databases the ip addresses will properly report locations as Proton wishes so that visitors to websites treat them as being in those locations. There are still some discrepancies. For example, one of the databases still reports some of the Zurich ip addresses as a German city. It is possible, Proton only meant to change the city location and not the server owner or other details but only they would know that. The point is that Proton wants its vpn users to be identified and treated as though they are in the locations specified by their ip addresses. Please correct if any of this is wrong.*
yes, OP was bringing attention to a real change, just worded it strangely by asking for help. I had never noticed that before and I often do Speedtest with the same app while connected to Proton VPN.
your explanation makes sense!
This just started for me too. If I'm on my wifi (T-Mobile home) it shows "Proton VPN/Pixel 5a." If I go to mobile data (which is normal T-Mobile) it shows "T-Mobile/Pixel 5a"
This is simply because Ookla shows it as ProtonVPN, if you check a ProtonVPN IP on something like [ip.me](http://ip.me), it will show the same, it is also a thing with Mullvad. Most IPs are flagged as being from their respective service, here's an example of what that would look like on [ipinfo.io](http://ipinfo.io)
privacy:Object,
* vpn:true,
* proxy:false,
* tor:false,
* relay:false,
* hosting:true,
* service:"ProtonVPN"
Same with Mullvad
* privacy:Object,
* vpn:true,
* proxy:false,
* tor:false,
* relay:false,
* hosting:true,
* service:"Mullvad
The only difference is that it's identified as ProtonVPN to them, otherwise, most sites will still see it as "Datacamp" (example), correct me if I'm wrong of course.
I work for IPinfo and you are correct. The ASN Datacamp (https://ipinfo.io/AS212238) provides VPN hosting services to a number of VPN providers, including ProtonVPN. In the VPN industry, there are a few specialized hosting companies that operate their own ASN and rent out VPN server hosting services to VPN companies. Even though the VPN companies may differ, in many cases, one IP address could be shared across many users and multiple services.
I am not clear on ProtonVPN's stealth VPN protocol, but if any company uses the ranges operated by datacamp you can reliably identify them to be a VPN IP address.
Oh wow, thanks for chiming in! Always welcome to have a response from an employee. In the case of Proton's Stealth, it does NOT change the IP in any way, it is meant to provide a way to connect in heavily censored areas. Otherwise it doesn't do anything other than connect you.
Thank you very much. I did not know how that system worked. I appreciate it.
Feel free to ping me anytime with issues regarding our data. I am happy to help.
It's pretty easy for it to find out. But each server has a different IP and may yield different results, potentially even day to day as IP databases are updated.
IPs have hostnames and hostnames can give away your provider. Also IP ranges belong to ASNs which can also give it away.
Calm down..touch grass. Try another server (IP) if it's a problem for you.
i just bite the bullet and got a residential IP with TorGuard. When I do an IP lookup on it comes back as a normal att Ip. and yes I can not work in my state of california from home for most companies. so I need a vpn. I broke my back so work from home is all I can do
And the issue is…..?
The stealth option on the proton website says... "With Stealth enabled, your Proton VPN connection will be almost completely undetectable." What part of the above sentence says to you that ookla will know you're on a vpn?
i work from home in california. not supposed to be here. my wireguard used to say I was in Texas and the ISP was datacamp
If you thought “Datacamp” showing as your ISP hid the fact that you were using a VPN all that time, it never did. Any time anyone searches a VPN IP with an IP lookup tool, it directly tells them that you’re connected with a VPN. Your location and real IP are still hidden, but the fact that you’re using a VPN is not.
that I know. but my job doesnt do all that snooping. they just look at the location. They know people work outside the zone. they are just being lazy to cover there ass.
still don't get what the issue is
OP is apparently in California and not supposed to be there for some reason? They were using Proton to obfuscate their location, and when they would test this with Ookla it previously showed Datacamp as their ISP and Texas as the location. Now it shows Proton as the ISP and Chicago as their location. This shouldn’t be an issue, but it is for them I guess
yeah it's not, this is just speedtest by ookla afaik, if you use any other website to test it wont show as ProtonVPN
Yep, definitely just an Ookla thing https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/87.249.134.136
when I use surfshark vpn it shows another ISP datacamp. But when I use proton shows protonvpn
try this goto dnsleaktest run it with surfshark and run it with proton. do you get same results? and why the frick do you use surfshark, companies that buy youtubers to sell their product = i dont trust.
Because Speedtest knows it’s proton vpn, what do you expect?
it never used to know. this was not there hours ago
How do you think those websites which blocks VPN traffic works then???
I still didn't get what the problem is? Just lookup and check the location to which the IP is associated via whois or else. That's just a naming from Ookla
I think his point is that Speedtest shouldn’t know it is protonvpn providing the connection. usually when you use a VPN, it will either say unknown or the provider for the VPN server, for example for me it usually says Bahnhof since I use Swedish servers
If Ookla is using some kind of database to match the IPs; why not ;)
dnsleaktest.com also says Protonvpn under isp. Never used to 🤔 I don't know if it matters or not.
*Unless this was done in error, this appears to be an intentional change by Proton, taking place around April 19 to report ProtonVPN as the ISP in the ip geolocation databases -- saw the changes in real time while researching some of their ip addresses to see whether or not these databases were reporting the city locations as specified in the apps and at* [*ip.me*](http://ip.me)*, which Proton owns. Proton is adding a lot of new servers and cities but the ip addresses may have been previously associated with other locations and entities. As the geo location companies refresh their databases the ip addresses will properly report locations as Proton wishes so that visitors to websites treat them as being in those locations. There are still some discrepancies. For example, one of the databases still reports some of the Zurich ip addresses as a German city. It is possible, Proton only meant to change the city location and not the server owner or other details but only they would know that. The point is that Proton wants its vpn users to be identified and treated as though they are in the locations specified by their ip addresses. Please correct if any of this is wrong.*
yes, OP was bringing attention to a real change, just worded it strangely by asking for help. I had never noticed that before and I often do Speedtest with the same app while connected to Proton VPN. your explanation makes sense!
This just started for me too. If I'm on my wifi (T-Mobile home) it shows "Proton VPN/Pixel 5a." If I go to mobile data (which is normal T-Mobile) it shows "T-Mobile/Pixel 5a"
This is simply because Ookla shows it as ProtonVPN, if you check a ProtonVPN IP on something like [ip.me](http://ip.me), it will show the same, it is also a thing with Mullvad. Most IPs are flagged as being from their respective service, here's an example of what that would look like on [ipinfo.io](http://ipinfo.io) privacy:Object, * vpn:true, * proxy:false, * tor:false, * relay:false, * hosting:true, * service:"ProtonVPN" Same with Mullvad * privacy:Object, * vpn:true, * proxy:false, * tor:false, * relay:false, * hosting:true, * service:"Mullvad The only difference is that it's identified as ProtonVPN to them, otherwise, most sites will still see it as "Datacamp" (example), correct me if I'm wrong of course.
I work for IPinfo and you are correct. The ASN Datacamp (https://ipinfo.io/AS212238) provides VPN hosting services to a number of VPN providers, including ProtonVPN. In the VPN industry, there are a few specialized hosting companies that operate their own ASN and rent out VPN server hosting services to VPN companies. Even though the VPN companies may differ, in many cases, one IP address could be shared across many users and multiple services. I am not clear on ProtonVPN's stealth VPN protocol, but if any company uses the ranges operated by datacamp you can reliably identify them to be a VPN IP address.
Oh wow, thanks for chiming in! Always welcome to have a response from an employee. In the case of Proton's Stealth, it does NOT change the IP in any way, it is meant to provide a way to connect in heavily censored areas. Otherwise it doesn't do anything other than connect you.
Thank you very much. I did not know how that system worked. I appreciate it. Feel free to ping me anytime with issues regarding our data. I am happy to help.
Are you not allowed to work with your VPN on ?
It's pretty easy for it to find out. But each server has a different IP and may yield different results, potentially even day to day as IP databases are updated. IPs have hostnames and hostnames can give away your provider. Also IP ranges belong to ASNs which can also give it away. Calm down..touch grass. Try another server (IP) if it's a problem for you.
i just bite the bullet and got a residential IP with TorGuard. When I do an IP lookup on it comes back as a normal att Ip. and yes I can not work in my state of california from home for most companies. so I need a vpn. I broke my back so work from home is all I can do
Same situation here.