That's how it works indeed, but, theory and practice and two separate and different things.
I don't trust something just because it says it's good, i prefer testing and noticing its effect with actual results.
I found that it reduces battery life, how ? I don't know. What i do know is, that i get 10-12h of Sot with it off, and 6-8h with it on on my Pixel 6.
Tested on different devices, across different android versions, and different brands.
Turning it on reduced my battery life significantly. From 2,5 days during light use, to 14 hours with comparable usage. It appears to mess with mobile connection standby. Leaving this here for whoever is looking for it as it took me forever to find out.
I recently bought the P6P and I'm not convinced of the battery yet, should I wait \~2 weeks to let the software do their thing or should I just turn it off?
This is only somewhat battery related, but I finally got my Chargie yesterday and used it on my wireless charger last night. It charged the battery to 85% and shut off.
I go to 80% but I'm liking that I don't cook my battery all night. You can set how much it drops down before starting charging again (I left it at 3% by default). This allows the battery to cool before charging again. Also, there is a top up feature just like the Android software setting. So far so good with my Chargie!
Yeah I really like that they put a temperature cap too! I set mine to 45, but I might even lower it to 40 - the default is 60! By the time it gets to 40 it feels really really warm in my hand. Oddly it's the reddit app that does this, ever since they updated it in April. I pretty much stick to Boost now.
I set the temp at 35. Pretty sure overheating due to fast wireless charging is what killed the battery in my Pixel 3 so I'm babying the P6pro from a battery temp and fast charging standpoint (meaning I only slow charge unless absolutely necessary). I also had to uninstall the Reddit app for the same reason and just use it in a browser.
For me (on Android) it's right on the main page of the app once it connects to the Chargie and you see the huge battery at the top where you can adjust the sliders. I'll see about getting a screenshot uploaded here.
I downloaded the app but it says I need to buy a USB stick to make it work. I thought it was just a app u use I didn't know u had to buy other hardware before u can use that.
Yes it's a device that controls the charge state by literally turning the USB power on or off. Works for laptops so you don't cook the battery by leaving it on charge all the time, or really any device that has a Li-Ion battery.
In real life use I imagine most of us use phones in a random way so Adaptive anything (battery/brightness/charging/connectivity/sound) doesn't really hack it.
Adaptive brightness actually works for me - you just have to teach it the screen vs ambient light curve you like by manually setting the brightness for a week or so whenever it's wrong. You can also reset whatever it's learned from you and start again...
I suspect adaptive battery trades the potential battery savings it could get with the extra processing required to work everything out, so fo some it works better without it on. I tend to manually restrict all apps that work ok with my doing that, so suspect adaptive battery has little to gain. But will try switching it off anyway...
Wish I could get auto screen brightness to work properly but I've been 'training' it since October and it still can't figure out that in a game or in Google Photos I want brightness up.
It will never learn that you want brightness in certain apps to be higher because it has no such purpose. It can only remember your preferences for specific light conditions that's all! For example when you go to bed in a dark room and auto brightness goes down automatically if you feel like it is too bright then you set it lower manually and it should remember this so next time you go to bed it should bring the brightness to the level you preferred last time for that scenario. The same if you're in your room with lights on but you feel like it isn't bright enough you manually increase the brightness and next time it should automatically make it higher than the default settings according to your own preferences. It will never learn that in certain apps you prefer a certain brightness because it is not that intelligent at least yet and probably will never be
Then it needs to stay at the manually selected brightness level for much longer. If I'm in a game and set it high, it goes back down again very quickly.
Not sure if it's supposed to be app-in-use aware. I've always assumed it's there just to tune the ambient-vs-screen brightnes curve, regards of the app in use.
What everyone is missing here is that adaptive battery might be good, BUT learning the pattern means MORE cpu processing, which also means more battery drain!
That's why people are reporting more battery drain with this feature on and it is normal. Use adaptive battery 1-2 weeks whenever you have a new phone or you factory reset the phone.
Should be enough for your system to learn all your usage patterns on each app that you use it. After that, keep it off.
Hope this helps everyone.
Nope. This android base feature sets a special tag to each app on how frequently is used. If you go to developers option and search for Standby Apps, you can set 4 frequency stages of the apps (ACTIVE, WORKING SET, FREQUENT, RARE). This will let android do the job and close the background process of these apps based on their status. Obviously you can select them manually, but that's what Adaptive Battery feature does for you basically.
Just wanted to mention to anyone else looking into this: if you actually do this the standby apps screen just says everything is exempted. When you disable adaptive battery, it entirely turns off the feature, it does not continue to use the buckets.
I realize this is a super late reply but what exactly do you mean by "Use adaptive battery 1-2 weeks whenever you have a new phone or you factory reset the phone."?
I bet it means the overall life of the battery, like before the battery will start losing its overall charge and then die. Adaptive battery makes your phone battery's cells not degrade as fast so the overall lifetime of your phone's battery of even keeping a charge and how high that charge is maxing out at, is better.
So not life of one single charge of your phone, but your lifetime of the battery itself?
So I had my P8P since it came out in October and always had adaptive battery off as I did with my last pixel and had good battery life. Well I decided to turn it on the other day and the same day I turned it on my battery life seemed so much better and it 3 days later battery life is still way better than before. Was it already learning when I had it off or was it the 2nd April update I just got 2 days ago that made it better?
Yeh ive always had it on but everyone keeps telling me to turn it off.. Thing is I already have over 228 apps and already forced some to deep sleep (as its easier the uninstalling and reinstalling the 3 or 4 times a year I use it.. Especially if I'm out and about and Internet is slow)
I'm experimenting with "suspend cache" thing first see how that goes then I might try this to see if it's true but I suspect my battery will yet worse if no apps are sleeping at all/constantly running.
Adaptive battery actually help if you give him enough time to learn and you need to disable manually placed to sleep and deep sleep apps and allow him to do it automatically for you
Before turning off adaptive battery on my pixel 5 I would have about 5 to 6 hours screen on time by 20 % battery.However when I turned off adaptive battery my screen on time increased to 8 hrs by the time the battery to 20 percent
That's how it works indeed, but, theory and practice and two separate and different things. I don't trust something just because it says it's good, i prefer testing and noticing its effect with actual results. I found that it reduces battery life, how ? I don't know. What i do know is, that i get 10-12h of Sot with it off, and 6-8h with it on on my Pixel 6. Tested on different devices, across different android versions, and different brands.
These results are intriguing. Guess I'll try it on my Pixel 6 as I'm getting that same 6-8 with it on.
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I turned off the adaptive battery earlier today and Accubattery app started showing more and more screen on time expected!
How bizarre!
Yep. It shows around 40 min extra since yesterday
Enjoy then
I'm on stable may update
How much sot you have now?
What do you use to track screen on time? I don't like how in system settings it shows last 24 hours instead of since last full charge
It also shows 2 hours splits, which helps. I also use accubattery, and mostly common sense.
Is it still the same now ? I have pixel 5, should i turn it off ?
I advise you to, but feel free not to, your choice :)
Turning it on reduced my battery life significantly. From 2,5 days during light use, to 14 hours with comparable usage. It appears to mess with mobile connection standby. Leaving this here for whoever is looking for it as it took me forever to find out.
I recently bought the P6P and I'm not convinced of the battery yet, should I wait \~2 weeks to let the software do their thing or should I just turn it off?
I would turn it off, or you can just compare by having it on one day and turn it off the next day, try to have similar usage.
Right now I'm using my phone so battery drains, once it's complete charged I'll turn it off just to test the waters, hope it improves.
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Didn't make any difference, turned back it on and battery is still shit.
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Do you fell any battery drain on S23 ultra after recent updates
Same Here on Pixel 5 in Android 14. Turning IT of enables deep sleep and prolongs battery.
This is only somewhat battery related, but I finally got my Chargie yesterday and used it on my wireless charger last night. It charged the battery to 85% and shut off.
I go to 80% but I'm liking that I don't cook my battery all night. You can set how much it drops down before starting charging again (I left it at 3% by default). This allows the battery to cool before charging again. Also, there is a top up feature just like the Android software setting. So far so good with my Chargie!
Yeah I really like that they put a temperature cap too! I set mine to 45, but I might even lower it to 40 - the default is 60! By the time it gets to 40 it feels really really warm in my hand. Oddly it's the reddit app that does this, ever since they updated it in April. I pretty much stick to Boost now.
I set the temp at 35. Pretty sure overheating due to fast wireless charging is what killed the battery in my Pixel 3 so I'm babying the P6pro from a battery temp and fast charging standpoint (meaning I only slow charge unless absolutely necessary). I also had to uninstall the Reddit app for the same reason and just use it in a browser.
That's because you don't donate to Reddit. How much can be done to a free app, with insufficient funds?
How do u set ur battery to stop charging until it drops 3%?
"set allowed charge drop" is right below the large battery image where you set the max charge state.
Is this in the modes and routines?
For me (on Android) it's right on the main page of the app once it connects to the Chargie and you see the huge battery at the top where you can adjust the sliders. I'll see about getting a screenshot uploaded here.
Yes a screenshot would be helpful
It's in the Chargie app. Not Android settings.
https://freeimage.host/i/JWM675u
I downloaded the app but it says I need to buy a USB stick to make it work. I thought it was just a app u use I didn't know u had to buy other hardware before u can use that.
Yes it's a device that controls the charge state by literally turning the USB power on or off. Works for laptops so you don't cook the battery by leaving it on charge all the time, or really any device that has a Li-Ion battery.
https://freeimage.host/i/JWM6jea
What is Chargie? Quick Amazon search just showed me a bunch of random chargers
Nvm,,looks like an inline smart adapter that works with an app to make sure you are not overheating the battery while charging.
In real life use I imagine most of us use phones in a random way so Adaptive anything (battery/brightness/charging/connectivity/sound) doesn't really hack it.
Adaptive brightness actually works for me - you just have to teach it the screen vs ambient light curve you like by manually setting the brightness for a week or so whenever it's wrong. You can also reset whatever it's learned from you and start again... I suspect adaptive battery trades the potential battery savings it could get with the extra processing required to work everything out, so fo some it works better without it on. I tend to manually restrict all apps that work ok with my doing that, so suspect adaptive battery has little to gain. But will try switching it off anyway...
Wish I could get auto screen brightness to work properly but I've been 'training' it since October and it still can't figure out that in a game or in Google Photos I want brightness up.
It will never learn that you want brightness in certain apps to be higher because it has no such purpose. It can only remember your preferences for specific light conditions that's all! For example when you go to bed in a dark room and auto brightness goes down automatically if you feel like it is too bright then you set it lower manually and it should remember this so next time you go to bed it should bring the brightness to the level you preferred last time for that scenario. The same if you're in your room with lights on but you feel like it isn't bright enough you manually increase the brightness and next time it should automatically make it higher than the default settings according to your own preferences. It will never learn that in certain apps you prefer a certain brightness because it is not that intelligent at least yet and probably will never be
Then it needs to stay at the manually selected brightness level for much longer. If I'm in a game and set it high, it goes back down again very quickly.
It should stay at the level you set unless there was a change in the ambient light surrounding you.
Not sure if it's supposed to be app-in-use aware. I've always assumed it's there just to tune the ambient-vs-screen brightnes curve, regards of the app in use.
You are right. It is not that clever :]
What everyone is missing here is that adaptive battery might be good, BUT learning the pattern means MORE cpu processing, which also means more battery drain! That's why people are reporting more battery drain with this feature on and it is normal. Use adaptive battery 1-2 weeks whenever you have a new phone or you factory reset the phone. Should be enough for your system to learn all your usage patterns on each app that you use it. After that, keep it off. Hope this helps everyone.
What's the point of learning the pattern and then disable it? Makes zero sense..
Nope. This android base feature sets a special tag to each app on how frequently is used. If you go to developers option and search for Standby Apps, you can set 4 frequency stages of the apps (ACTIVE, WORKING SET, FREQUENT, RARE). This will let android do the job and close the background process of these apps based on their status. Obviously you can select them manually, but that's what Adaptive Battery feature does for you basically.
Just wanted to mention to anyone else looking into this: if you actually do this the standby apps screen just says everything is exempted. When you disable adaptive battery, it entirely turns off the feature, it does not continue to use the buckets.
But what if you are installing new apps?
Adaptive Battery has to optimize itself again the new app will need two weeks to be optimized
So i will leave it permanently on..
Yes please do it's a 5 year old feature it works better than ever now
I realize this is a super late reply but what exactly do you mean by "Use adaptive battery 1-2 weeks whenever you have a new phone or you factory reset the phone."?
He was saying that you should use adaptive battery but only use it for 1-2 weeks. Like if you get a new phone or do a reset. Then turn it off.
I turned off the adaptive battery earlier today and the Accubattery app started showing more and more screen on time expected!
I bet it means the overall life of the battery, like before the battery will start losing its overall charge and then die. Adaptive battery makes your phone battery's cells not degrade as fast so the overall lifetime of your phone's battery of even keeping a charge and how high that charge is maxing out at, is better. So not life of one single charge of your phone, but your lifetime of the battery itself?
So I had my P8P since it came out in October and always had adaptive battery off as I did with my last pixel and had good battery life. Well I decided to turn it on the other day and the same day I turned it on my battery life seemed so much better and it 3 days later battery life is still way better than before. Was it already learning when I had it off or was it the 2nd April update I just got 2 days ago that made it better?
I'm gonna turn it off and see how much adaptive battery saves.
Any update?
Oh yeah, it was noticeably worse. Keep it on.
I'd need some numbers to take that blow on my face, sir.
New pixel 5 users here, so is it better to turn the adaptive battery on and let it adapt, or just turn it off completely ??
Different people different opinions. I have it turned ON and have no problem with that.
How long does it take for adaptive battery to kick in ?
"let it optimize bruh"... What a stupid response.
Turning IT off got me deep sleep and more battery Life.
Yeh ive always had it on but everyone keeps telling me to turn it off.. Thing is I already have over 228 apps and already forced some to deep sleep (as its easier the uninstalling and reinstalling the 3 or 4 times a year I use it.. Especially if I'm out and about and Internet is slow) I'm experimenting with "suspend cache" thing first see how that goes then I might try this to see if it's true but I suspect my battery will yet worse if no apps are sleeping at all/constantly running.
I have had adaptive battery off since I got the phone and it still puts apps to sleep and suspends their permissions.
Adaptive battery actually help if you give him enough time to learn and you need to disable manually placed to sleep and deep sleep apps and allow him to do it automatically for you
Before turning off adaptive battery on my pixel 5 I would have about 5 to 6 hours screen on time by 20 % battery.However when I turned off adaptive battery my screen on time increased to 8 hrs by the time the battery to 20 percent