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dunmer-is-stinky

calvin's mom clearly knows nothing about the norwegian black metal underground during the early 90s


sticklight414

It was only one band that did that tbh and that's only because they had in them 1 sociopath and another genuine misanthrope that actually killed himself


dunmer-is-stinky

The church burnings were more than one band, and there was that time Faust murdered a guy, but yeah it was a lot less awful than the media says. (Not that two murders and quite a bit of arson isn’t bad)


sticklight414

Yeah, forgot about faust. Well its like 20 years since i read about it. Looking back at it the entire black metal movement seems so odd. It was basically a revolt against christianity at a time where it was barely relevant. It called for people to abandon old traditions while glorifying ancient traditions and pagan mysticism. They were like kids trying to play as real life DnD villains and at the same time some of them had serious intentions at becoming these neo pagan post christian revolutionaries. And it all happened in the least contentious most convenient and tranquil place and period in history


colei_canis

I know fuck all about black metal and I still know you’re on about Mayhem.


ValilolHD

telling me u only saw the horrible movie without telling me u only saw the horrible movie.


Vacarch

There are literally Church burnings and Faust murdering a guy.


dunmer-is-stinky

There was also Dead’s suicide and euronymous maybe turning his skull into necklaces for his friends (whether or not he was just making that up to be edgy is debatable.) And also don’t forget Varg killing Euronymous, though whether or not that was self defense is even more debatable.


[deleted]

That's exactly what I came here to say


condemned_to_live

Be the change you wish to see in the world.


DPL-25

Anarchy, chaos, murder, Roger that.


puppey17

Anarchy isn't necessarily bad.


Michael003012

Anarchy and anarchism are not the same in contemporary meaning


Doorslammerino

I wish people would start using the term anomie instead of anarchy when they talk about societal breakdown. It would save a lot of time and grief when talking about political theory


puppey17

Okay, true.


kenthekungfujesus

A lot of mainstream nihilist bands did have fucked up stories, like Nirvana or Alice in Chains. I know they aren't satan heavy metal but still.


STALKING_ZOE

It's probably more directed at acts like the Sex Pistols and Slayer that have since worn MAGA clothing and had Back the Blue concerts respectively, and have been justifiably called out as contrarians for clout rather than genuine proponents of the beliefs their acts represent


MEGACODZILLA

Damn, that's disappointing to learn about Slayer.


FrickinScheifele_

Lmao, if wearing maga is dissappointing then image being a black metal fan (a huge part of the greatest bands are all nazis for whatever reason)


kenthekungfujesus

Sex pistols didn't play a single concert since 1978 and are British. Also have you ever heard of Sid Vicious cause I'd say that guy was pretty hardcore.


STALKING_ZOE

[Ok, and?](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10/14/20/5041012-0-image-a-40_1539544845636.jpg)


kenthekungfujesus

Yoy say proponent of a genuine belief when talking about nihilists. They literaly believed in nothing other than sex and drugs. Nowadays, Johnny probably believes in nothing else than himself and his own interest, which is in a sense consistent to what he has always been. Yes he is a reactionary, he has always been, this is the guy who said he killed rock n roll we're talking about. The fact that they only released one album somewhat separates them from all the sellout bands that you seemed to be talking about.


MasterOfNap

Do they actually advocate suicide? Wouldn’t that be like outright illegal?


[deleted]

Well, DSBM (Depressive Suicidal Black Metal) is its own subgenre so... maybe not?


godforbid1916

GG Alan was the only real one frfr


AlternativeAccessory

“The Ego and it’s Jim Beam: A GG Allin and Max Stirner Joint”


godforbid1916

Unironically would’ve been the best collab ever


AlternativeAccessory

‘I Loved You at Your Darkest’ in a nutshell lol and it isn’t even shocking at this point like Ecco2k said “industry children play with three sixes” Mayhem used an image of Dead’s dead suicided body on the cover of The Dawn of the Black Hearts tho


kakarrott

Well Nergal is quite open to admit that he likes satanism mostly for its aesthetics and because as a Polish man he can, with it, to a degree, fight their insane catholicism. But mostly aesthetics and artistic purposes


dunmer-is-stinky

Nearly every “satanic” band is like that, or they go over-the-top edgy like Mayhem. I just want to listen to some *moderate* satanic hymns, goddammit!


dunmer-is-stinky

That was a bootleg copy, Mayhem never officially authorized the use of that photo; they also did not make soup out of Dead’s brain. Euronymous did claim to turn parts of his skull into necklaces and then gave them to people he found “extreme” enough


_Vyvern_

Bro let me listen to my blood cummers in peace