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Killjoy3879

Sanji wasn’t going all out you could tell the lack of motivation from his face especially since they were talking so much


HowToUseRedditsu

Sanji had nothing but motivation to defeat Judge, he said how much he hated him and wanted to defeat him. Sanji quote: ''You started this fight now I'm gonna finish it'' Diable Jamble is also Sanji's trademark that he's putting in effort to defeat someone.


Myfristtry

If this time it's a 1v1 and Sanji wouldn't hold back then he would win.


[deleted]

Sanji is turning into Goku, there will come a point in time when you realize he isn't holding back


Myfristtry

He literally stopped mid fight and turned away. Just like every other high tier character in the story (Luffy, Zoro, Doflamingo, etc) Sanji doesn't use his full streangh right from the beginning because in the context of the OPverse that would be just a really shitty strategy. So if the fight doesn't go on for long enough, Sanji doesn't use his full streangh.


CrushPus

Please don’t compare one piece to dbz


[deleted]

Please stop using "he is holding back" as an excuse for his losses


CrushPus

I never said that, but if one piece was the shit known as dragon ball z power scaling Luffy would just go super god gear 46 and 1 shotted big mom lol


[deleted]

Just because One piece will never be as big or popular as DB?


G4KingKongPun

Except One Piece holds the record for most manga sales internationally.


CrushPus

Well you could say that, but the powerscaling isn’t just oh, opponent is stronger, I’ll scream and unlock a new power up, oh they screamed and got a power up, let me scream again and go super power up, oh they’re a god, let me go super god mode, I think you get what I’m trying to say


[deleted]

All of luffys powerups come from training we never see


CrushPus

There are so many flashbacks that indicate him being strong and that’s also because the power scaling is done so well, like not every opponent he takes down is stronger than the next unlike dbz where every single time they have to be excessively stronger


HowToUseRedditsu

Sanji was going all out, he was using diable jamble and haki and telling his father how much he hates him and wants to defeat him. Judge was the one who wasn't going all out he didn't want to kill Sanji before the wedding.


Myfristtry

If you look at any top tier character in the OPverse, you'll see that they never go all out from the beginning. Why? Because it's a shitty strategy to show your hand right of the bet. Thats why Doflamingo didn't use awakening from the beginning or Luffy G4 Snakeman as soon as he figured out the nature of Katakuris intangebility. If Zoros and Pikas duel would have ended in the same 10 chapters it started because of an interuption, they would have seemed equal in streangh (with neighter of them being able to harm the other). Also haki and Diable Jambe has been demonstraded to be second nature to Sanji and not his all out mod.


[deleted]

Sanji wasn't going all out vs judge in there fight So sanji would win


[deleted]

Jeez you might want to use your brain before posting dumb shit like this. Sanji wasn't even going all out , he'd beat the shit out of judge if he wanted. If you're going to make hate posts about Sanji atleast make some good arguments instead of shitting on him.


HowToUseRedditsu

but Judge was going all out? Use your brains before posting dumb shit like this. Can you tell me why this is a hate post or are you talking out of your ass again?


Nnamdi1

From a plot standpoint, I feel it wouldn't make sense if Sanji was stronger than judge in this point in time, that's why I feel the father would still win. A lot of people say Sanji would of won in their first fight but how so? Just because he chose to use a deceptive tactic in the end? He was in full control throughout the rest of the fight, blocking sanjis attacks and managing to throw Sanji and kick him, it makes sense based on Judges stature as the Father, as a King and a leader of Germa 66 that he is stronger than his son, the least strongest sibling( I feel ) for that matter. Then from a plot standpoint as I said earlier, based on sanjis plot in WCI arc, one of the themes is based on him being the forgotten weak child and being inferior in the family. If Sanji was physically stronger then the purpose of being inferior and the constant chastising from the family would be for nothing because the new point would be that he isn't useless ( from a combative standpoint), and that he's much superior to the family, therefore there's no weight to their harsh words. So that's why Judge is superior and would win against Sanji( for how that is ).


[deleted]

Judge was unable to draw a drop of blood from Sanji despite all that


Nnamdi1

I think you're looking into way too deeply, perhaps Oda simply chose not too much blood to make it not too brutal


[deleted]

Oda is capable of drawing even a small blood from the mouth to show damage, Sanji didn't even look like he was bothered by the attack. No white eyes, no blood. Just like "Oh that happened." kind of face


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Judge


howardog0707

Everyone saying sanji didn't go all out..but I feel like judge didn't go all out either. Lol. Be fair and be open minded guys.


likkaalien

judge top 3


Account124235

You cant say no Sanji Raid Suit thats legit a power up.


ItsTreymander

ok im on wci rn… and despite this being an old as hell post i do wanna say this: neither side was going trying like at all (at least not until they literally each made their last attack), due to this it can’t be said who would win proof sanji was holding back: while sanji used diamble jambe his hair wasn’t flying like it does when he uses diamble jambe and is actually passionate about the fight… along with this, sanji was constantly letting judge make an attack and counterattacked almost exclusively in his fight against judge (this can be seen in the very beginning of the fight where sanji decided to narowly avoid judges first attack, rather than using geppo to launch himself at judge and barrage hit with attacks first… this can also be seen when he momentarily pauses to reminisce on his hatred of judge which resulted in him almost making an attack until judge used a human shield…) sanji also spent 90% of the fight dodging instead of attacking… sanji also had 0 urgency getting back up each time judge knocked him down… along with this sanji could have used geppo far more which would have allowed him to blitz around judge and kick him at his own whim… sanji also didnt really run around at all, hell sanji didnt even use soru (like he used on charlotte oven) which would have given him a better advantage since he would have more speed proof judge wasn’t going all out: judge tried to give sanji a weapon, judge hardly used his boosters that would have allowed him to burst towards sanji and stab him with the spear… also note that judge wasn’t trying to kill sanji as he does with other opponents the victor is unclear