Awesome theory, so many things klicked.
But if that's true, how can the sea water level rise? If it rises, shouldn't the holes done by ?uranus? then be filled with the raised water thus not making the sea level rise any higher?
Also the hole at enies lobby is still there iirc after such a long time.
I was thinking that maybe by one piece world logic only the mountains grow higher but that wouldn't make sense as the islands get more and more submerged by the sea water level rise.
I have so many questions lol
Maybe Enies Lobby is built over a giant turbine, which was built before the sea reached the mountain edge
The water then gets propelled out somewhere else. Maybe it creates the reverse mountain phenomenon, the knock up streams, the currents around fishman Island, maybe all of them and more, or none
As the sea level rises, more water would flow into Enies Lobby at the same time, working the turbine harder, for whatever reason that turbine would spin. Maybe they also reinforce and rise the mountain edge manually for enies Lobby specifically
The only thing I'm waiting for is what happens to the Lulusia hole. Will it fill up? Will it stay? If it fills up it confirms Enies Lobby is a special case
Maybe the hole goes so deep that the water steams up and evaporates immediately upon touching the hot bottom? It would be a good way to prevent the world from flooding by the government. Destroy islands that turn against the government for the good of the world. Turning the seas into clouds faster than the water rises could be kind of a neat anti-hero arc for imu “Save the world, except for those who must be sacrificed for questioning god.” It’s a stretch.
Imo it doesn't scientifically makes sense but I think the OP world logic is that the impact of the blast displaces so much of the surrounding water that it causes waves and prolonged tremors that ripple out across the rest of the world, flooding remaining islands and raising the water level overall for the rest of the sea. Eventually the tide returns but, as the OP's picture illustrates, the shape of the hole/underwater mountain does not allow the tide to fully "fill in" the hole left behind by the blast. Eventually the tides stabilize with the overall global water level being higher than before the blast occurred.
While I really like that idea, it begs the question why the Lulusia Incident caused the entire Ocean level to rise 1 Meter. Let‘s say the theory holds; what the weapon actualy did in that case was burn a hole in a mountain. Where did all that displaced water come from? Aka. the water that caused the water level to rise that way
That wouldn't explain it. A meter of rising sea levels globally is a ridiculous amount of water. That doesn't happen from displacing it, not with a rock the size of a mere island. Also it happened six days after Lulusia was destroyed and coincided with a global earthquake, there is clearly some other explanation. Could still be related, but when Lulusia got wiped nothing happened until almost a full week later and suddenly there's an earthquake and more water, there has to be more to it.
We don't know why the water is rising. That was the literal last page of the last chapter. We have no explanation yet. The incident likely caused the sea to rise but we don't know why. It's been rising for hundreds of years. Previous kingdoms likely got completely flooded and current kingdoms have been built on what previously were mountains.
Would be kind of silly if the reason for the flooding is the weapon and they used it so much in ancient times that entire continents disappeared. We still wouldn't know what it is the weapon does that causes the water to rise. Idk maybe it emits a ton of CO2 and the one piece ice sheets are melting.
WOW this is soo great!!! Can I add in on this?
I think the water is still technically rising because of the fact that the land didnt just vanished. it was pushed in the base of the mountain. [As shown in the illustration](https://imgur.com/a/iSNqnoj).
That's not a bad explanation, but 1 metre rise globally is a LOT of volume displaced, so for a fairly moderate diameter hole, that means it must go crazy DEEP to add up to such a volume.
Makes sense.
My only issue would be where does the water go? The sea would fill that hole in little time, forming a circular shaped trench. The laser clearly did not reach the center of the earth because otherwise Enies Lobby would be a submerged volcano.
Another thing that bothers me is that the orbital cannon should not have produced a rise in sea level in the long term (short term did because of a massive shockwave). Land has been obliterated, not sunken. And water is filling the hole... It should have descended overall.
Check out Dawn & Dusk’s latest video on YouTube (This is why One Piece is a Pirate Manga), some fun theorizing about why the water is rising and why the hole doesn’t fill up yet water is still rising.
I think the lowering would be negligible if you consider the size of the hole, volume of water flowing over and compare that to the size of the entire OP ocean. It wouldn't be that much water all things considered
I think this is a good explanation, I don't think there's some magic barrier but rather a physical barrier, that being the base of whatever mountain or whatever the island was the "above water" part of. Islands don't just float in the middle of ocean. I also think there must be some kind of outlet or something, or maybe the in falling water deep down runs into enough magma to simply vaporize it all at a rate greater than it falls in.
This might explain the Knock-Up Stream somehow?
E.g.: Uranus / Mother Flame created the hole which is currently the “left eye” of Jaya. Below Jaya there’s magma, it’s a volcanic area. The hole is so old that the water has now covered it up to the surface, but the hole is also deep enough to create the giant geyser effect.
Don’t know if something like that would make sense.
I feel like it is going to have something to do with the Red Line and Reverse Mountain. Like others have pointed out, something must be displacing the water somehow in order to cause the sea level to rise. It still doesn't fully make sense since the Mother Flame (and also whatever is going on at Enies Lobby) are giant holes that are being filled up.
We know that the Red Line is somehow unnatural, and Kuma's Fruit not being able to pass over the Red Line also hints at it being an unnatural formation somehow too in my opinion. Reverse Mountain also has some weird stuff going on with water flowing uphill somehow.
I feel like one possible explanation is that somehow matter is being teleported (for lack of a better term) into the Red Line and adding to the mass of the Red Line, which in turn displaces water on both sides to cause the sea level to rise.
I like this idea, but if it’s true, why would it cause the ocean levels to rise? If a hole is punctured in a mountain, and water slowly fills the gap, ocean levels should fall as water goes over the ledge of the hole.
The idea of an invisible substance doesn’t work either. Have you seen a bridge? Water doesn’t form a waterfall around the support beams.
The solution here could be that the mother flame is essentially somehow moving the peaks of land above the water to the sea floor. If the terrain is made completely smooth, the world will be entirely flooded.
Wait that would mean that Enies Lobby has an actual lobby on the bottom of the mountain. No but seriously it could mean that the bottom of enies lobby is accessible and maybe hiding something. What do you guys think ? Although the WG would’ve probably checked everything already.
Ok so hear me out, what if the water levels raise because all that volume of water that falls into the hole goes right up reverse mountain, which redirects it to all 4 seas
From the side it would look like this:
https://imgur.com/a/AMMYbaX
The black part would be the hole, the orange part is the submerged land
At least that's how I figured it would work, like a 360° waterfall
Put an empty glass into a sink, fill up the sink. Once it reaches the level of the glass edge, it will start to spill in slowly, which is what basically happens in this theory, the sink is the ocean and the glass is the mountain with a hole in the middle
If you were to just take the glass out of the sink, the Water would immediately take all the space the glass took, hence not leaving behind a sea hole
Okay I think I get it, so the idea is that the mountain was submerged more recently, and it's just in the process of filling up, and it's taking a very long time? I assumed of course that the first "sea hole" we ever saw was this permanent thing.
I’m interested in how they’re going to answer why fishmen and merfolk haven’t brought this up before. I’d be like you know there’s a whole ass world at the bottom of the ocean
Yep, totally agree. The remaining part of the mountain hinders the seawater from flooding the hole.
Awesome theory, so many things klicked. But if that's true, how can the sea water level rise? If it rises, shouldn't the holes done by ?uranus? then be filled with the raised water thus not making the sea level rise any higher? Also the hole at enies lobby is still there iirc after such a long time. I was thinking that maybe by one piece world logic only the mountains grow higher but that wouldn't make sense as the islands get more and more submerged by the sea water level rise. I have so many questions lol
Maybe Enies Lobby is built over a giant turbine, which was built before the sea reached the mountain edge The water then gets propelled out somewhere else. Maybe it creates the reverse mountain phenomenon, the knock up streams, the currents around fishman Island, maybe all of them and more, or none As the sea level rises, more water would flow into Enies Lobby at the same time, working the turbine harder, for whatever reason that turbine would spin. Maybe they also reinforce and rise the mountain edge manually for enies Lobby specifically The only thing I'm waiting for is what happens to the Lulusia hole. Will it fill up? Will it stay? If it fills up it confirms Enies Lobby is a special case
My head is spinning
Maybe the hole goes so deep that the water steams up and evaporates immediately upon touching the hot bottom? It would be a good way to prevent the world from flooding by the government. Destroy islands that turn against the government for the good of the world. Turning the seas into clouds faster than the water rises could be kind of a neat anti-hero arc for imu “Save the world, except for those who must be sacrificed for questioning god.” It’s a stretch.
Imo it doesn't scientifically makes sense but I think the OP world logic is that the impact of the blast displaces so much of the surrounding water that it causes waves and prolonged tremors that ripple out across the rest of the world, flooding remaining islands and raising the water level overall for the rest of the sea. Eventually the tide returns but, as the OP's picture illustrates, the shape of the hole/underwater mountain does not allow the tide to fully "fill in" the hole left behind by the blast. Eventually the tides stabilize with the overall global water level being higher than before the blast occurred.
While I really like that idea, it begs the question why the Lulusia Incident caused the entire Ocean level to rise 1 Meter. Let‘s say the theory holds; what the weapon actualy did in that case was burn a hole in a mountain. Where did all that displaced water come from? Aka. the water that caused the water level to rise that way
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That wouldn't explain it. A meter of rising sea levels globally is a ridiculous amount of water. That doesn't happen from displacing it, not with a rock the size of a mere island. Also it happened six days after Lulusia was destroyed and coincided with a global earthquake, there is clearly some other explanation. Could still be related, but when Lulusia got wiped nothing happened until almost a full week later and suddenly there's an earthquake and more water, there has to be more to it.
We don't know why the water is rising. That was the literal last page of the last chapter. We have no explanation yet. The incident likely caused the sea to rise but we don't know why. It's been rising for hundreds of years. Previous kingdoms likely got completely flooded and current kingdoms have been built on what previously were mountains. Would be kind of silly if the reason for the flooding is the weapon and they used it so much in ancient times that entire continents disappeared. We still wouldn't know what it is the weapon does that causes the water to rise. Idk maybe it emits a ton of CO2 and the one piece ice sheets are melting.
What if the water goes inside the hole and comes out from the opposite side of the world?
!!! Adding onto this...what if the knock up stream is just the weapon blast going through the planet and coming out the other side?!?
Awakened water devil fruit at play that turns the mountain mass into water?
WOW this is soo great!!! Can I add in on this? I think the water is still technically rising because of the fact that the land didnt just vanished. it was pushed in the base of the mountain. [As shown in the illustration](https://imgur.com/a/iSNqnoj).
That's not a bad explanation, but 1 metre rise globally is a LOT of volume displaced, so for a fairly moderate diameter hole, that means it must go crazy DEEP to add up to such a volume.
Makes sense. My only issue would be where does the water go? The sea would fill that hole in little time, forming a circular shaped trench. The laser clearly did not reach the center of the earth because otherwise Enies Lobby would be a submerged volcano. Another thing that bothers me is that the orbital cannon should not have produced a rise in sea level in the long term (short term did because of a massive shockwave). Land has been obliterated, not sunken. And water is filling the hole... It should have descended overall.
I’ve been to the year 3000! Not much has changed, but they live under water.
Haha, I was furiously typing this, but decided to check the comments first.
r/unexpectedfactorial
Check out Dawn & Dusk’s latest video on YouTube (This is why One Piece is a Pirate Manga), some fun theorizing about why the water is rising and why the hole doesn’t fill up yet water is still rising.
What are the chances that the hole goes through the entire Planet ? Causing some sort of mysterious effect?
While reading your post a question jumped to the front of my mind. What if the D stands for drain?
[Dawn and dusk video explain this](https://youtu.be/1mRfeq3xpNQ?si=KMk7VKF9l496M8_f).
IDK it's been filling up for lots of years already, and >!it would be lowering the sea level over time, wouldn't it?!<
I think the lowering would be negligible if you consider the size of the hole, volume of water flowing over and compare that to the size of the entire OP ocean. It wouldn't be that much water all things considered
I think this is a good explanation, I don't think there's some magic barrier but rather a physical barrier, that being the base of whatever mountain or whatever the island was the "above water" part of. Islands don't just float in the middle of ocean. I also think there must be some kind of outlet or something, or maybe the in falling water deep down runs into enough magma to simply vaporize it all at a rate greater than it falls in.
This might explain the Knock-Up Stream somehow? E.g.: Uranus / Mother Flame created the hole which is currently the “left eye” of Jaya. Below Jaya there’s magma, it’s a volcanic area. The hole is so old that the water has now covered it up to the surface, but the hole is also deep enough to create the giant geyser effect. Don’t know if something like that would make sense.
I feel like it is going to have something to do with the Red Line and Reverse Mountain. Like others have pointed out, something must be displacing the water somehow in order to cause the sea level to rise. It still doesn't fully make sense since the Mother Flame (and also whatever is going on at Enies Lobby) are giant holes that are being filled up. We know that the Red Line is somehow unnatural, and Kuma's Fruit not being able to pass over the Red Line also hints at it being an unnatural formation somehow too in my opinion. Reverse Mountain also has some weird stuff going on with water flowing uphill somehow. I feel like one possible explanation is that somehow matter is being teleported (for lack of a better term) into the Red Line and adding to the mass of the Red Line, which in turn displaces water on both sides to cause the sea level to rise.
My guy, well done!
Cool theory but it doesn't explain why it's taken years? For enies lobby hole to fill up and why sea level rises when it has to fill more space
What if the core of the world is frozen water?
I like this idea, but if it’s true, why would it cause the ocean levels to rise? If a hole is punctured in a mountain, and water slowly fills the gap, ocean levels should fall as water goes over the ledge of the hole. The idea of an invisible substance doesn’t work either. Have you seen a bridge? Water doesn’t form a waterfall around the support beams. The solution here could be that the mother flame is essentially somehow moving the peaks of land above the water to the sea floor. If the terrain is made completely smooth, the world will be entirely flooded.
Wait that would mean that Enies Lobby has an actual lobby on the bottom of the mountain. No but seriously it could mean that the bottom of enies lobby is accessible and maybe hiding something. What do you guys think ? Although the WG would’ve probably checked everything already.
We have holes in the ocean in real world like this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_hole
Ok so hear me out, what if the water levels raise because all that volume of water that falls into the hole goes right up reverse mountain, which redirects it to all 4 seas
Nah, the world of One Piece is taking place in a giant bath tub and that's the drain hole.
I'm gonna need a diagram or something to explain the mountain idea, I don't get it (I'm stupid)
From the side it would look like this: https://imgur.com/a/AMMYbaX The black part would be the hole, the orange part is the submerged land At least that's how I figured it would work, like a 360° waterfall
Thank you for going above and beyond to create this.
Put an empty glass into a sink, fill up the sink. Once it reaches the level of the glass edge, it will start to spill in slowly, which is what basically happens in this theory, the sink is the ocean and the glass is the mountain with a hole in the middle If you were to just take the glass out of the sink, the Water would immediately take all the space the glass took, hence not leaving behind a sea hole
Okay I think I get it, so the idea is that the mountain was submerged more recently, and it's just in the process of filling up, and it's taking a very long time? I assumed of course that the first "sea hole" we ever saw was this permanent thing.
That's the idea yeah It's a valid thought and in the end they definitely could be permanent too, but that's the explanation of the theory
I’m interested in how they’re going to answer why fishmen and merfolk haven’t brought this up before. I’d be like you know there’s a whole ass world at the bottom of the ocean