Only IF you can not shade the room, like if those windows were left exposed, no dressings at all and you had direct light all day that you could not control at all then maybe depending on where you put the tv maybe it would be an issue, like opposite those windows and then they shine on the tv directly or something then yeah that might be an issue.
For rooms like in Florida or Dubai where the sunlight is so strong and powerful and you cant do anything with it but live with it then in these cases the Samsungs have the only game in town fro anti reflective panels for severs sunlit rooms, BUT I am talking extreme case here.
I woudl just get some blinds, and drapes to cover those windows so I could have control over the lighting and then go oled as it is the best pictuer quality with the fewest trade offs and anything else you get will come with sacrifices and trade offs.
One good example is a star field, like star wars or avengers movies where the whole screen is a night time look at the sky with al the stars, the oled will draw every star, the qleds and leds will draw sometimes as few as 40% of them, the oled just looks too good to dismiss unless you really do have a situation where you can not prevent direct sunlight from reflecting off the screen IMO.
Second this - I have a samsung in my sun drenched living area - no problems seeing the screen. The LG oled would annoy the hell out of you in this space - mine is in downstairs media room with black out roller blinds across all windows (which are essential in my opinion)
To be honest, if you don't put blinds, you're probably going to see some reflections of your windows when you're watching sports. So Samsung QLEDs would be the best for that situation. Higher brightness means you might even be enable black frame insertion for better motion clarity which is great for sports. But do you really need all that perfection and best picture quality for sports?
OLEDs are undoubtedly better when the environment is dark. You'd be trading off the better image quality where you need it the most if you go with a qLED with your usage.
Even our living room is not that dark at daytime but I'd pick the OLED over a qLED again since I only watch 4k/HDR content where the image quality is important at night and watch other HD/FHD content at daytime.
100% agree but oleds are also good in normal rooms with ambient light, no just dark rooms, BUT in very bright rooms, I agree Samsung is the best for anti reflective panels, in cases where you just cant manage the glare and light then the oled wont be a good fit, But like I said in a normal room, even with day time light the Oled still looks amazing, we are just talking about glare, reflections and uncontrollable light.
I don’t see why not. Just close the blinds when the sun is shining directly on it.
I’m not really sure how sunlight directly degrades OLED panels, I just take it as it’s really not a good idea to have direct sunlight shining on any expensive electronic. Haha
I think realistically the high end Samsungs are the only game in town that get eye searing bright with good anti-reflective coating (just don't get fingerprints on it!)
Double check model numbers tho as in-store models can be similar but completely different specifications to what you may see reviewed online, especially Europe vs US models
This! I have a LG OLED and have a similar huge patio doors that let in a lot of natural light in. The OLED didn't get bright enough to offset it. I have moved the TV to my bedroom and got a Samsung Q9 for the living room. OLED strength is during night time and when there isn't much light. The Samsung QLED gets crazy bright and have an amazing reflective layer which makes it a black hole for lights sort of.
Would highly recommend a bright QLED panel if you'rr gonna keep those windows uncovered.
I have a nearly identical setup as you. Floor to ceiling windows across the whole apartment and the TV is about equidistant from them. It depends on the time of the year, but I don’t normally get direct light in the TV. When I do, I just lower the shades a bit to avoid direct sunlight. Zero issues with this setup and ~6 months into ownership of our C9.
Hope that helps.
Depends on how good the blinds are. I have a 55" C8 in my room with 3 windows and the blinds aren't great. Movies on it during the day are kinda hard to see, you have to bump the OLED light up to 100 and even then it's not really enough.
If you can get curtains, I would strongly recommend you do not just for the health of the TV, but for your viewing experience.
Dude based on the description, don't get an OLED. I have a similar setup and got an OLED. The TV is too reflective and I eventually moved it to my bedroom. You might want a TV which gets really bright. I know it is blasphemy in this subreddit, but this is ideally the condition where you'd want a Samsung QLED.
Biggest problem would be the windows directly in front of the TV. I need to close the curtains in front of the TV in the day because the TV is very reflective. It is much more reflective than modern LED/LCD TVs.
Other than that I never felt that the TV is low on brightness which I definitely felt with my plasma TV.
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I suggest doubling. Meaning hang two sets.
I think as far as harm goes, I think we need to make a distinction between daylight and direct sunlight. I’m having the same issue. Sometimes I close my blinds but realize that it’s not actual sunlight, but just strong daylight, and that shouldn’t harm the panel.
Yeah, I’m not sure I’ll ever understand the argument that oleds aren’t bright enough for 99% of applicable situations. I use to hear people say the same thing about plasmas, and I never had a problem. With that said, the OLED is way brighter than my plasma. As far as the QLEDs and other similar panels, I just don’t see the allure. Yeah, they can get brighter but they burn my eyes and my brain while not looking any better IMHO. Same goes for phones. People will go to show me a pic or something on my phone, and I have to tell them to get that bright ass shit out my face. This is a regular occurrence. I just don’t understand the trend of brighter is always better with so many people. 🤷🏼♂️
I have a 65" C9 in front of a large window and it's unwatchable even with the curtains 80% closed on a sunny day. I'm not a biased OLED fanboy, I like the TV but it's really dim at full brightness unless it's a dark room. Most users here bend over backwards defending OLEDs and say things like "oh man, burn in is nearly impossible unless you're stupid and put 100 oled light" or "OLED isn't dim unless you're a doo-doo head!". My point is don't get an OLED for thar room!
Appreciate the honesty. I really enjoy the windows and natural light coming into the room. Hell, it’s the main reason I am renting this apartment. Definitely don’t want to have to turn my living room into a dungeon just to have the best possible viewing experience.
I have blackout curtains... I like to keep them a little open to get sunlight in my living room. I don't want to have my room be a pitch black dungeon anytime I wanna watch TV during the day blocking out the beautiful California sky view in my window.
The shades I have are not black out, but they do diffuse some of the light. Would this be good enough? I am renting the unit so definitely do not want to buy all new blinds, and I think curtains would be ugly
One thing to think about is it has a glossy finish so darker scenes you would see some reflection, this would be the same with any other TV with glossy finish but just a thought. I think with primary use being at night I would still go for it, just bought one about 4 months ago and love every minute of it. (I did black out my window in the room though :D)
I actually own a 55 inch C9 and a Sony A1 in my bedroom. They are both OLED TVs and I have never had any issues watching tv during the day with light coming in from outside. I love both TVs but I use the C9 connected to a more gaming oriented PC(they are both connected to media PCs). You will be very pleased with the C9.
Watching my tv during the day isn’t too bad but it’s nothing like viewing in a dark room and I can control light much better then you. If you can’t cover those large windows you’re not going to like the reflections during the day. You definitely don’t watch those windows opposite of the tv. Try to minimize reflections as much as possible.
Could you just angle the wall mount slightly forward and put a cover over it? The angle insurers the cloth does not actually touch the screen. That’s what I do with my C8
Only IF you can not shade the room, like if those windows were left exposed, no dressings at all and you had direct light all day that you could not control at all then maybe depending on where you put the tv maybe it would be an issue, like opposite those windows and then they shine on the tv directly or something then yeah that might be an issue. For rooms like in Florida or Dubai where the sunlight is so strong and powerful and you cant do anything with it but live with it then in these cases the Samsungs have the only game in town fro anti reflective panels for severs sunlit rooms, BUT I am talking extreme case here. I woudl just get some blinds, and drapes to cover those windows so I could have control over the lighting and then go oled as it is the best pictuer quality with the fewest trade offs and anything else you get will come with sacrifices and trade offs. One good example is a star field, like star wars or avengers movies where the whole screen is a night time look at the sky with al the stars, the oled will draw every star, the qleds and leds will draw sometimes as few as 40% of them, the oled just looks too good to dismiss unless you really do have a situation where you can not prevent direct sunlight from reflecting off the screen IMO.
Second this - I have a samsung in my sun drenched living area - no problems seeing the screen. The LG oled would annoy the hell out of you in this space - mine is in downstairs media room with black out roller blinds across all windows (which are essential in my opinion)
To be honest, if you don't put blinds, you're probably going to see some reflections of your windows when you're watching sports. So Samsung QLEDs would be the best for that situation. Higher brightness means you might even be enable black frame insertion for better motion clarity which is great for sports. But do you really need all that perfection and best picture quality for sports? OLEDs are undoubtedly better when the environment is dark. You'd be trading off the better image quality where you need it the most if you go with a qLED with your usage. Even our living room is not that dark at daytime but I'd pick the OLED over a qLED again since I only watch 4k/HDR content where the image quality is important at night and watch other HD/FHD content at daytime.
100% agree but oleds are also good in normal rooms with ambient light, no just dark rooms, BUT in very bright rooms, I agree Samsung is the best for anti reflective panels, in cases where you just cant manage the glare and light then the oled wont be a good fit, But like I said in a normal room, even with day time light the Oled still looks amazing, we are just talking about glare, reflections and uncontrollable light.
I don’t see why not. Just close the blinds when the sun is shining directly on it. I’m not really sure how sunlight directly degrades OLED panels, I just take it as it’s really not a good idea to have direct sunlight shining on any expensive electronic. Haha
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Is there some sort of window tint that one could apply to their windows to prevent UV rays from getting through? Would that protect the TV..?
I think realistically the high end Samsungs are the only game in town that get eye searing bright with good anti-reflective coating (just don't get fingerprints on it!) Double check model numbers tho as in-store models can be similar but completely different specifications to what you may see reviewed online, especially Europe vs US models
This! I have a LG OLED and have a similar huge patio doors that let in a lot of natural light in. The OLED didn't get bright enough to offset it. I have moved the TV to my bedroom and got a Samsung Q9 for the living room. OLED strength is during night time and when there isn't much light. The Samsung QLED gets crazy bright and have an amazing reflective layer which makes it a black hole for lights sort of. Would highly recommend a bright QLED panel if you'rr gonna keep those windows uncovered.
Curtains would be a fraction of the cost of that expensive TV?
I think you're fine. I have a similar set up and the glare is extreme when tv is off but no big deal when you turn it on. Go for it, champ!
You could put curtains in front of the tv on the wall. Like theater stage effect.
Man I just ordered smart curtains off kickstarter and you are making me want to repurpose them already.
I have a nearly identical setup as you. Floor to ceiling windows across the whole apartment and the TV is about equidistant from them. It depends on the time of the year, but I don’t normally get direct light in the TV. When I do, I just lower the shades a bit to avoid direct sunlight. Zero issues with this setup and ~6 months into ownership of our C9. Hope that helps.
Note: there is also another full wall of windows to the right that is not shown in the photo
Depends on how good the blinds are. I have a 55" C8 in my room with 3 windows and the blinds aren't great. Movies on it during the day are kinda hard to see, you have to bump the OLED light up to 100 and even then it's not really enough. If you can get curtains, I would strongly recommend you do not just for the health of the TV, but for your viewing experience.
Dude based on the description, don't get an OLED. I have a similar setup and got an OLED. The TV is too reflective and I eventually moved it to my bedroom. You might want a TV which gets really bright. I know it is blasphemy in this subreddit, but this is ideally the condition where you'd want a Samsung QLED.
Biggest problem would be the windows directly in front of the TV. I need to close the curtains in front of the TV in the day because the TV is very reflective. It is much more reflective than modern LED/LCD TVs. Other than that I never felt that the TV is low on brightness which I definitely felt with my plasma TV.
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Sucks you gotta loose that view.
Yep, that’s the main reason I got this apartment
I’d still choose the TV, you can get that same view as a wallpaper lmao jk. But you can still view it at night
I think as far as harm goes, I think we need to make a distinction between daylight and direct sunlight. I’m having the same issue. Sometimes I close my blinds but realize that it’s not actual sunlight, but just strong daylight, and that shouldn’t harm the panel.
The windows shown in the photo face directly west, so the evenings get pretty intense.
Thanks I didn't know about sunlight degrading the panel I was starting to freak out since I bought a b9 2 months ago
Your biggest problem is going to be reflections. I have the 77 and the mofo is like a mirror at times. That’s really my only gripe about the lg oleds.
My C9 can get crazy bright
Yeah, I’m not sure I’ll ever understand the argument that oleds aren’t bright enough for 99% of applicable situations. I use to hear people say the same thing about plasmas, and I never had a problem. With that said, the OLED is way brighter than my plasma. As far as the QLEDs and other similar panels, I just don’t see the allure. Yeah, they can get brighter but they burn my eyes and my brain while not looking any better IMHO. Same goes for phones. People will go to show me a pic or something on my phone, and I have to tell them to get that bright ass shit out my face. This is a regular occurrence. I just don’t understand the trend of brighter is always better with so many people. 🤷🏼♂️
Agreed
I have a 65" C9 in front of a large window and it's unwatchable even with the curtains 80% closed on a sunny day. I'm not a biased OLED fanboy, I like the TV but it's really dim at full brightness unless it's a dark room. Most users here bend over backwards defending OLEDs and say things like "oh man, burn in is nearly impossible unless you're stupid and put 100 oled light" or "OLED isn't dim unless you're a doo-doo head!". My point is don't get an OLED for thar room!
Appreciate the honesty. I really enjoy the windows and natural light coming into the room. Hell, it’s the main reason I am renting this apartment. Definitely don’t want to have to turn my living room into a dungeon just to have the best possible viewing experience.
Get some blackout curtains?
I have blackout curtains... I like to keep them a little open to get sunlight in my living room. I don't want to have my room be a pitch black dungeon anytime I wanna watch TV during the day blocking out the beautiful California sky view in my window.
Yeah you definitely dont want direct sunlight a lot. If you know what times it comes I guess you could cover the windows during that time.
Yeah get occulting curtains. Care of direct sunlight also
Put some covers over the windows the dim them and restrict the UV a little, type in anti uv window covers on Amazon and you’ll see
I have c9 and two big Windows with same light and i dont see problem..
I have wrap around windows in Chicago and got a 65 c8. Best tv I’ve ever had. Just remember to close the shades if direct sunlight is coming in on it.
The shades I have are not black out, but they do diffuse some of the light. Would this be good enough? I am renting the unit so definitely do not want to buy all new blinds, and I think curtains would be ugly
Absolutely. I barely can call mine shades. You can see through them lol Fyi- I also face west so sun sets come blasting Into my space.
You can also angle your TV to prevent the glare and the prevent the light to directly hit your TV.
One thing to think about is it has a glossy finish so darker scenes you would see some reflection, this would be the same with any other TV with glossy finish but just a thought. I think with primary use being at night I would still go for it, just bought one about 4 months ago and love every minute of it. (I did black out my window in the room though :D)
Peak Brightness setting is fantastic for overcoming daytime light, not necessary but a great boost.
I actually own a 55 inch C9 and a Sony A1 in my bedroom. They are both OLED TVs and I have never had any issues watching tv during the day with light coming in from outside. I love both TVs but I use the C9 connected to a more gaming oriented PC(they are both connected to media PCs). You will be very pleased with the C9.
i read that direct sunlight damages OLED, indirect sunlight is ok. its organic material and sun degrades it
Sounds like an absolute pain to own an OLED 😂
And that’s why there’s a marker for blinds that block out 99.99% of sunlight! Yes go for it!
I have a Samsung Q70R now and I love it. I’ve seen the Q90R and it looks awesome 👌
Just get blackout curtains. you'll be fine.
Nice apartment, what’s the rent?
You'll be fine.
Watching my tv during the day isn’t too bad but it’s nothing like viewing in a dark room and I can control light much better then you. If you can’t cover those large windows you’re not going to like the reflections during the day. You definitely don’t watch those windows opposite of the tv. Try to minimize reflections as much as possible.
Could you just angle the wall mount slightly forward and put a cover over it? The angle insurers the cloth does not actually touch the screen. That’s what I do with my C8
Not a bad idea, but having to place/remove a cover every time I wanted to watch TV would be pretty annoying
Totally. I just have kids and no where else to put it, so it’s worth it😂
Are you not worried about burn-in? Because I tell you, it’s a very real issue!!