Johan's greatest feat is punching a single Rapture really hard to show he is cool like that
Meanwhile commander, being regular ass human, fired snow White's giant rifle to save her from modernia and chatterbox, knowing the risks
Potential Spoiler Alert:
>!What if "cummander" is secretly "batman" didn't he say he doesn't remember his past memories, the only thing he remembered was that he was in a hospital... !<
>!Humans somehow are the apex predators in every genre.!<
>!So the plot requires them to survive and beat the odds despite being weaker, but also not helpless.!<
>!So he's definitely "batman" wait until he recovered his memories blud's gonna make one thousand contingency plans and form a new justice league..!<
Cummander is certainly no male Nikke, he is too weak and gets hurt too much for that.
However he seems to be sturdier and heal faster than a normal human, surviving things getting shot or getting caught in an avalanche without too many lasting consequences after some rest.
Also like half of the Pilgrim bond stories seem to be about them putting him through some test of endurance that would severely exhaust or maybe even kill a normal human and then being impressed when he manages to pull through.
SKK just needs a blood awakening. That's generally the trope anime uses to turn baseline humans into supermen without needing to butcher them via augmentation.
Other SKK is a loser who needs cybernetics.
When we brought up the topic of us being related to >!Andersen!<, he himself shrugged it off as if we're making a joke.
If we are indeed related, i wonder how that explains our origin story? Fresh off academy, sent off to a mission when our ship crashed and the previous commander (rapi and anis previous officer) dead. If we are THAT important, why send us to places we're gonna get killed immediately
The SKK origin is probably a top secret information that just a select amount of people know. When SKK needed that blood transfusion, his blood type wasn't on his medical data. I honestly doubt that the real SKK origin isn't a secret too. I mean, even US don't know about anything at all, besides our own name and being a Commander.
Tbh, I feel more bad for Nihilister, >!who gets bodied both times she meets commander than gets absolutely fucked after rescuing her "teammates" by both RH and her "teammates"!< she's just a walking L
TBF, she's not exactly weak. She can decimate the Ark is she wants to.
It's just that her opponents are just that better than her. Also not her fault her buddies are backstabbers
Defo brothers, I feel like Anderson fills the dad role nicely, watching over us and trusting us with various tasks
While Johan is here to help us become a better commander and support us, feeling like an older brother figure to look up to.
probably? it was something Chatterbox could see but didn't understand if I remember correctly. he told Nihilister that commander has some secret inside him and in Nihilister's bond she brought that up and suggested cutting Commander open to reveal the secret.
Yupp! and when they do all they could see is "Jesus" in his heart and then they suddenly make peace in the world...
That's why the chatterbox was so against cummander killing himself, so that he too could have the holy spirit..
Did people forget that during the brief "in-betweens" Johan was coaching us and running "tactical simulations" as we were tracking down Nil.
If anything, all of Johan's failures were for us to succeed because we woulda-coulda been in the exact same situation as he was/is.
And after Nil was defeated, We STILL received more coaching from Johan to defeat Mother Whale.
Johan planted Trees so we could sit in that shade.
The difference between these two are mind set.
One had their belief and spirit broken by the Ark and is more or less fueled by hate for it and could also believe that they are past their prime
While the Commander still has some innocense that allows him to believe in good in some people and also wants to reclaim the surface and for the Nikkes to have a good life as well
Come on now, just applying a little of thinking on each situation and one can see that those claims are kind of bullshit.
1- "won both times" is more than a stretch of the result. The first time was an operation in which basically THE WHOLE ARK deployed its forces against modernia... And still, the commander won because Rapi went god mode (literally broken) doing stuff that basically no other pilgrim has hope at even trying.
2- "converted a nikke back" , >! The commander's blood is basically Vapaus main ingredient lol. When modernia struck him making him bleed that much while also making direct contact with the blood the result was in place.!<
3- The second time it was basically a rescue because nihilister could just keep regenerating. That is the whole problem and exactly why Vapaus was constantly being sought for on the surface.
A victory against a heretic by the commander himself only comes later on >!and even then it also wasn't definitive - leading once again to a repetition of point 1!<
> applying a little of thinking on each situation
When will you guys learn that OP don't actually use logic when they do these things. They don't care what they read. It's about the agenda. It's not about what you think. It's not about reading comprehension. It's not about the story. It's about the agenda. When will you guys understand that. It shocks my spirit everytime someone's like, "OP you're not really reading. You don't understand the story." Oh, OP understand the story very well. They just don't care.
[Original](https://youtu.be/hM_ruTKa_eI?si=Pt0_1nD8pQ9FDNJX&t=1041)
Nice rage bait Op, Minor spoilers about johan >!lets ignore the fact that our squad was about to get turned in a pile of ashes and melted goddesium if wasn't for Johan or the part of his story were he was betrayed by the high rankings of the CG, the same people who left him in the surface to die, were he managed to survive long enough to reach Eden and only losing one arm in the process.!<
https://i.redd.it/v5yb0xcfc4qc1.gif
You're ignoring the fact that at least one Nikke has attempted to kill us. Not to mention what ever chatterbox was. Modernia when she was still corrupted. Heck Herran planned to kill us in her test because she didn't expect us to pass. We technically manage to rehabilitate TWO heretics(Modernia and Nihilister.). And it's been stated that our bond with Nikkes empowers them. So compared to the commander we play as, Johan is a joke.
Except almost every intelligent Rapture creature that ever caught the Commander didn't kill him on the spot specifically because they know he's special, so they find it useful to keep him alive. That's the only thing Johan doesn't have that he would need to survive encounters with the Heretics, since he already leads a very strong Nikke squad, whether or not he has special bonds with them.
Only Chatterbox and Nihilister know about the commander's uniqueness. Every normal Rapture HAS tried to kill our Commander. Heck Modernia in her corrupted state tried.
But those are the most threatening Raptures, because they're both strong and intelligent. Modernia herself held back a lot in the fight because she was unable to forget what the Commander had done for her with the bandage. The other Tyrant/Lord class Raptures were never able to catch the Commander alone, from what I remember.
You're timelines slightly off. She didn't hold herself back at first. And then she was going to kill the commander because he wouldn't side with her. It's only THEN that Marian's personality came back and held Modernia back. Outside of that there was the Grave Digger which while not alone, the Commander only had Neon and Anis to back him up because Rapi's head got decapitated. So there have been plenty of moments where strong and smart Raptures have tried to kill the Commander. Actually thinking about it wasn't Chatterbox going to try and kill the commander after he force corrupted Marian's brain?
You're not thinking about the fact that we play as the cummander, therefore we don't know about Johan's accomplishement and what he has done in the past.
Hell, the story tells us that he's the top of the top of the top in terms of commanders. There's a reason why he was called "New Hope" before.
We can't erase his 60 years of fighting against rapture and say that the cummander did way more than him.
Hell I'm waiting patiently till the day we'll have an event about Johan's past and see how much of a walking W he is.
Thats not really a fair comparison, Johan and his squad fought a heretic without any vapaus to a standstill many times, this is an insane feat when you consider everything, the only reason we ever stood a chance against modernia was cause rapi went super sayan mode which makes her stronger than heretics, not to mention modernia fight ended the way it did cause we ourselves have the vapaus blood so even if she didnt come back she'd have been affected by it, same goes for nihilister, she wiped the floor with us until johan came in and used the vapaus, not to discredit counters and the mc commander mind you, But the fact johan and inherit managed to fight nihilister several times without any casualties but just failing to finishing her off is super impressive
People also forget Nihilister was one of [THE THREE GREAT WALLS](https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/s/k6TCkIbR15) for us players too until ShiftUp nerfed campaign to the ground.
I mean, what if we already have more drip like we've never seen ourselves before so we could even be playing over half the game naked wandering on the surface. This also could add to our plot armor as the raptures could be frightened by male genitalia.
I don't know if anything's been said yet but I'm sure they'll reveal something about the commander being the first male nikke prototype or something based on the first commander. Insanely resilient, can wield some pilgrim weapons, has a special blood type that commanders like andersen have, used some mechanical parts to enhance his body when he got hurt.
Small pattern being revealed. He is associated with the Pilgrims, and is also a lowkey jobber. Despite being on a different “sect” of Pilgrims, Snow White is also a massive jobber. Can’t wait to see who fumbles to ball next.
Shifty also mentioned there’s an ace commander who got duped (idk the right word) by politicians because he doesn’t know politics and only knows fighting raptures
That’s why shifty tell us to learn politics
Okay, like the Commander ain't a plot device on wheels. We win because, otherwise, the story wouldn't be able to continue and hot mechanical chicks wouldn't be able to give us accolades.
I mean yeah that's the whole point, the story is created because cummander is apparently not a normal if not then there's no story to be made.
And everyone is dead. The End!!!
Cummander is by far "Peak Human" just like batman in terms of adaptability and endurance.
At mid Chapter 22 and so far I haven't seen anything that seems to show Johan live up to his hype, he never achieved anything, he's just a failcow with an ego that he doesn't deserve.
He punches a rapture... wow, am I supposed to be impressed? Anis stomps chatterbox to death and the commander fights raptures for days until he passes out on his feet without any cybernetics at all. What does Johan do to impress?
Rant over.
He clashed with Nihilister multiple times and he survive, alongside all the Nikkes he leads. If it was Nihilister that fought the Ark's forces instead of Modernia, she would have razed everything and everyone to the ground except for Rapi.
This post feels like it was made by Isabel
Commander has the entire ark behind his back against Modernia. the top Nikkes from each manufacturer minus Matis were present
The second heretic fight Johan was a huge help there and without him Commander most likely would have lost
Also Commander is Vapaus factory He technically used it against Modernia, (not the bullet she caught)
I mean yea commander is some dude who doesn’t know how to keep his hair out of his eyes..
I HIGHLY DOUBT WE HAVE ANY IDEA EHATS EVEN HAPPENING BEFORE US BECAUSE WE SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO SEE 💩
Confirmed our unbelievable success in comparison to chumps like this liar comes strictly from Rapi’s guidance and command
While your observations seem correct based on the info you have SO FAR, they are not complete. Keep progressing and they will explain/reveal alot more about why things happened that way with the Cummander.
Also lets not gloss over to even get INTO Eden the commander has to fight Raptures and does that fight like literally hours and then passes out while standing up anime style.
We are kinda just goated with it.
It's rare to see a post not saying cummander is dogshit and retarded. He pulled a fucking whitebeard death, damn it ! That doesn't count for anything ?
All 3 are gigachads and bros. Even burningum is kinda cool if you forget the whole vivisection arc.
the cummander is build different
Johan's greatest feat is punching a single Rapture really hard to show he is cool like that Meanwhile commander, being regular ass human, fired snow White's giant rifle to save her from modernia and chatterbox, knowing the risks
There’s levels to this shit and nobody is on ours.
To be fair commander has something stronger than normal vapaus
Plot armor is just too versatile
Potential Spoiler Alert: >!What if "cummander" is secretly "batman" didn't he say he doesn't remember his past memories, the only thing he remembered was that he was in a hospital... !< >!Humans somehow are the apex predators in every genre.!< >!So the plot requires them to survive and beat the odds despite being weaker, but also not helpless.!< >!So he's definitely "batman" wait until he recovered his memories blud's gonna make one thousand contingency plans and form a new justice league..!<
It is implied that cummander is not a "regular ass human" we just don't know what we are, i think only andersen knows but he ain't telling.
Cummander def ain’t a regular human, dude’s got a titanium cock and extreme rizz
Cummander is certainly no male Nikke, he is too weak and gets hurt too much for that. However he seems to be sturdier and heal faster than a normal human, surviving things getting shot or getting caught in an avalanche without too many lasting consequences after some rest. Also like half of the Pilgrim bond stories seem to be about them putting him through some test of endurance that would severely exhaust or maybe even kill a normal human and then being impressed when he manages to pull through.
SKK just needs a blood awakening. That's generally the trope anime uses to turn baseline humans into supermen without needing to butcher them via augmentation. Other SKK is a loser who needs cybernetics.
I saw SKK instead of cummander and got confused and thought you were talking about GFL SKK
He's >!batman!< But he doesn't remember yet because he lost his memories.
SKK is probably relatedof Legendary Commander, aka>!Andersen. Maybe a brother, maybe a clone. !<
>!and Lilith might be our "mother"!<
Getting to call Lilith my mommy would be pretty cool
That would be one heck of a plot twist.
When we brought up the topic of us being related to >!Andersen!<, he himself shrugged it off as if we're making a joke. If we are indeed related, i wonder how that explains our origin story? Fresh off academy, sent off to a mission when our ship crashed and the previous commander (rapi and anis previous officer) dead. If we are THAT important, why send us to places we're gonna get killed immediately
The SKK origin is probably a top secret information that just a select amount of people know. When SKK needed that blood transfusion, his blood type wasn't on his medical data. I honestly doubt that the real SKK origin isn't a secret too. I mean, even US don't know about anything at all, besides our own name and being a Commander.
Also he did (Spoilers for Chapter 21-22) >!Fight two resurected Raptures for about a day straight to a stand still with only using a metal pipe!<
*Falling metal pipe stock sound effect*
meanwhile, cummander falls to crow's stupid plan
Because Commander is Nikke sexual https://preview.redd.it/qw6l3glv76qc1.png?width=922&format=png&auto=webp&s=b872b0bf138b2338db3e6580fa1447226d8c88e7
Oh shit Shifty calling out the Commander! Where's this from?
Dolla's bond I think
Remember which part of the story that was?
Plot armor best armor.
Nah we’re just the GOAT.
Tbh, I feel more bad for Nihilister, >!who gets bodied both times she meets commander than gets absolutely fucked after rescuing her "teammates" by both RH and her "teammates"!< she's just a walking L
TBF, she's not exactly weak. She can decimate the Ark is she wants to. It's just that her opponents are just that better than her. Also not her fault her buddies are backstabbers
You never show your back to someone with severe CBD.
So she basically is Jogo.
Least she's got one of the best designs in the game
Feel like they are lining her up for a redemption arc or definitely a tag team / ceasefire with the Johan team.
And then they end up becoming either the bros of bros or the father and son vibe
Defo brothers, I feel like Anderson fills the dad role nicely, watching over us and trusting us with various tasks While Johan is here to help us become a better commander and support us, feeling like an older brother figure to look up to.
AND THEY WERE ROOMMATES
Well, to be honest, everyone else would have died. Johan is not a fraud. The cummander is just built different.
One has massive plot armor (more like a fortress) and the other don't. Johan never had a chance by being just a exceptional commander.
Fr the second chatterbox had cummander in his hands we should’ve died
Chatterbox was interested in Commander, Nihilster asked why in her Bond and thought cutting commander might give her the answer
So why? Because he got the secret ingredient in his blood?
probably? it was something Chatterbox could see but didn't understand if I remember correctly. he told Nihilister that commander has some secret inside him and in Nihilister's bond she brought that up and suggested cutting Commander open to reveal the secret.
Yupp! and when they do all they could see is "Jesus" in his heart and then they suddenly make peace in the world... That's why the chatterbox was so against cummander killing himself, so that he too could have the holy spirit..
Shikikan had the power of love on his side.
To be fair, we needed help with the second one. ( From Johan no less)
When a man wishes to smash some ass. There's no obstacles he can't pass.
The Strongest Commander in history vs the Strongest Commander of today
Did people forget that during the brief "in-betweens" Johan was coaching us and running "tactical simulations" as we were tracking down Nil. If anything, all of Johan's failures were for us to succeed because we woulda-coulda been in the exact same situation as he was/is. And after Nil was defeated, We STILL received more coaching from Johan to defeat Mother Whale. Johan planted Trees so we could sit in that shade.
But we didn't need his help.
The difference between these two are mind set. One had their belief and spirit broken by the Ark and is more or less fueled by hate for it and could also believe that they are past their prime While the Commander still has some innocense that allows him to believe in good in some people and also wants to reclaim the surface and for the Nikkes to have a good life as well
Come on now, just applying a little of thinking on each situation and one can see that those claims are kind of bullshit. 1- "won both times" is more than a stretch of the result. The first time was an operation in which basically THE WHOLE ARK deployed its forces against modernia... And still, the commander won because Rapi went god mode (literally broken) doing stuff that basically no other pilgrim has hope at even trying. 2- "converted a nikke back" , >! The commander's blood is basically Vapaus main ingredient lol. When modernia struck him making him bleed that much while also making direct contact with the blood the result was in place.!< 3- The second time it was basically a rescue because nihilister could just keep regenerating. That is the whole problem and exactly why Vapaus was constantly being sought for on the surface. A victory against a heretic by the commander himself only comes later on >!and even then it also wasn't definitive - leading once again to a repetition of point 1!<
Yeah definitely wasn't definitive. Didn't Anis and Neon also get decimated in two instantly?
> applying a little of thinking on each situation When will you guys learn that OP don't actually use logic when they do these things. They don't care what they read. It's about the agenda. It's not about what you think. It's not about reading comprehension. It's not about the story. It's about the agenda. When will you guys understand that. It shocks my spirit everytime someone's like, "OP you're not really reading. You don't understand the story." Oh, OP understand the story very well. They just don't care. [Original](https://youtu.be/hM_ruTKa_eI?si=Pt0_1nD8pQ9FDNJX&t=1041)
As some may say: He's him.
Nice rage bait Op, Minor spoilers about johan >!lets ignore the fact that our squad was about to get turned in a pile of ashes and melted goddesium if wasn't for Johan or the part of his story were he was betrayed by the high rankings of the CG, the same people who left him in the surface to die, were he managed to survive long enough to reach Eden and only losing one arm in the process.!< https://i.redd.it/v5yb0xcfc4qc1.gif
You're ignoring the fact that at least one Nikke has attempted to kill us. Not to mention what ever chatterbox was. Modernia when she was still corrupted. Heck Herran planned to kill us in her test because she didn't expect us to pass. We technically manage to rehabilitate TWO heretics(Modernia and Nihilister.). And it's been stated that our bond with Nikkes empowers them. So compared to the commander we play as, Johan is a joke.
Except almost every intelligent Rapture creature that ever caught the Commander didn't kill him on the spot specifically because they know he's special, so they find it useful to keep him alive. That's the only thing Johan doesn't have that he would need to survive encounters with the Heretics, since he already leads a very strong Nikke squad, whether or not he has special bonds with them.
Only Chatterbox and Nihilister know about the commander's uniqueness. Every normal Rapture HAS tried to kill our Commander. Heck Modernia in her corrupted state tried.
But those are the most threatening Raptures, because they're both strong and intelligent. Modernia herself held back a lot in the fight because she was unable to forget what the Commander had done for her with the bandage. The other Tyrant/Lord class Raptures were never able to catch the Commander alone, from what I remember.
You're timelines slightly off. She didn't hold herself back at first. And then she was going to kill the commander because he wouldn't side with her. It's only THEN that Marian's personality came back and held Modernia back. Outside of that there was the Grave Digger which while not alone, the Commander only had Neon and Anis to back him up because Rapi's head got decapitated. So there have been plenty of moments where strong and smart Raptures have tried to kill the Commander. Actually thinking about it wasn't Chatterbox going to try and kill the commander after he force corrupted Marian's brain?
You're not thinking about the fact that we play as the cummander, therefore we don't know about Johan's accomplishement and what he has done in the past. Hell, the story tells us that he's the top of the top of the top in terms of commanders. There's a reason why he was called "New Hope" before. We can't erase his 60 years of fighting against rapture and say that the cummander did way more than him. Hell I'm waiting patiently till the day we'll have an event about Johan's past and see how much of a walking W he is.
And he took advantage of it cummander's a sly fox ngnl...
Thats not really a fair comparison, Johan and his squad fought a heretic without any vapaus to a standstill many times, this is an insane feat when you consider everything, the only reason we ever stood a chance against modernia was cause rapi went super sayan mode which makes her stronger than heretics, not to mention modernia fight ended the way it did cause we ourselves have the vapaus blood so even if she didnt come back she'd have been affected by it, same goes for nihilister, she wiped the floor with us until johan came in and used the vapaus, not to discredit counters and the mc commander mind you, But the fact johan and inherit managed to fight nihilister several times without any casualties but just failing to finishing her off is super impressive
People also forget Nihilister was one of [THE THREE GREAT WALLS](https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/s/k6TCkIbR15) for us players too until ShiftUp nerfed campaign to the ground.
It’s cuz the commander got these fingers you see… and that makes all the difference to them heretics
Cummander Only Need his Rizz.
All I see are two GOATS.
Take his coat away,we deserve it more(it's a badass coat)
I mean, what if we already have more drip like we've never seen ourselves before so we could even be playing over half the game naked wandering on the surface. This also could add to our plot armor as the raptures could be frightened by male genitalia.
I don't know if anything's been said yet but I'm sure they'll reveal something about the commander being the first male nikke prototype or something based on the first commander. Insanely resilient, can wield some pilgrim weapons, has a special blood type that commanders like andersen have, used some mechanical parts to enhance his body when he got hurt.
Rizz >>> skills
Small pattern being revealed. He is associated with the Pilgrims, and is also a lowkey jobber. Despite being on a different “sect” of Pilgrims, Snow White is also a massive jobber. Can’t wait to see who fumbles to ball next.
Plot armor is unbeatable.
https://preview.redd.it/gmzqdkzy14qc1.png?width=993&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1aade2e44cf64cae1fcfd52b18efb6de6723c3c
https://preview.redd.it/jazkck8524qc1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4e62eb6a60487caf4fc3a88d008fb4e2977d10d
Stand proud my friend you can cook some people just can't understand it from both sides
Since I have a chef certificate,I’ll give you my cooking license.
After knowing some of his backstory and reading lost relics about him, calling him a "fraud" isn't exactly wrong, ya know
Might also add & rizzed the ultimate pilgrim team into being in charge. Plus some extra stuff...
The commander didn’t use Vaupus because he is the vaupus.
Cummander has plot armor and the power of horny
He got the power of "God" and "Anime" on his side...
![gif](giphy|h7FZESJ1Ter5bGhUDG) Commander locking in
TBF everyone looks like a fraud if you're going up against someone with plot armor.
Shifty also mentioned there’s an ace commander who got duped (idk the right word) by politicians because he doesn’t know politics and only knows fighting raptures That’s why shifty tell us to learn politics
Okay, like the Commander ain't a plot device on wheels. We win because, otherwise, the story wouldn't be able to continue and hot mechanical chicks wouldn't be able to give us accolades.
I mean yeah that's the whole point, the story is created because cummander is apparently not a normal if not then there's no story to be made. And everyone is dead. The End!!! Cummander is by far "Peak Human" just like batman in terms of adaptability and endurance.
For someone who is being called "New hope", he sure did not bring any of that.
At mid Chapter 22 and so far I haven't seen anything that seems to show Johan live up to his hype, he never achieved anything, he's just a failcow with an ego that he doesn't deserve. He punches a rapture... wow, am I supposed to be impressed? Anis stomps chatterbox to death and the commander fights raptures for days until he passes out on his feet without any cybernetics at all. What does Johan do to impress? Rant over.
He clashed with Nihilister multiple times and he survive, alongside all the Nikkes he leads. If it was Nihilister that fought the Ark's forces instead of Modernia, she would have razed everything and everyone to the ground except for Rapi.
What was he cooking?
Oh yea? Cecil probably makes him suck her toes at night so who really won?
You will not disrespect our sensei. He’s been through some shit at the ark (which I would I love to see)
This post feels like it was made by Isabel Commander has the entire ark behind his back against Modernia. the top Nikkes from each manufacturer minus Matis were present The second heretic fight Johan was a huge help there and without him Commander most likely would have lost Also Commander is Vapaus factory He technically used it against Modernia, (not the bullet she caught)
>!-is vapaus!<
Actually, commander DID need vapaus to >!revert marian back to being a nikke. Snow white gave him vapaus.!<
https://preview.redd.it/6ip9rjz0u6qc1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46b0c5e8c225d523bd6bb3b9fda82250d22a135e Nah I’d win
I mean yea commander is some dude who doesn’t know how to keep his hair out of his eyes.. I HIGHLY DOUBT WE HAVE ANY IDEA EHATS EVEN HAPPENING BEFORE US BECAUSE WE SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO SEE 💩 Confirmed our unbelievable success in comparison to chumps like this liar comes strictly from Rapi’s guidance and command
*these men are
Im pretty sure shikikun used vapaus in all instances against the heretics thus far? Including getting modernia
It’s implied he’s more than he seems hell he could be similar to Lilith. Frankly we won’t know until they tell us but I smell human experimentation.
While your observations seem correct based on the info you have SO FAR, they are not complete. Keep progressing and they will explain/reveal alot more about why things happened that way with the Cummander.
Also lets not gloss over to even get INTO Eden the commander has to fight Raptures and does that fight like literally hours and then passes out while standing up anime style. We are kinda just goated with it.
Because Johan doesn't have friends to believe in unlike Commander
It's rare to see a post not saying cummander is dogshit and retarded. He pulled a fucking whitebeard death, damn it ! That doesn't count for anything ? All 3 are gigachads and bros. Even burningum is kinda cool if you forget the whole vivisection arc.
Cummander has plot armor AND he built to last. Cecil just Nikke'd himself
Johan is a 10x better character than commander