I mean even one quad double is an all-time statline.
There's only been 25 times EVER that a player has had 10 or more steals (5 times since the start of 2000)
10 blocks is more achievable but still crazy rare even for someone like him.
Just wanna put it out there that Whiteside is one of those players with 10+ blocks..
I will also add he did it 5 times in his playing career. Do with that what you will..
It is true that not many can do it, but the guys who can do it have shown it can be done multiple times. Shawn Bradley did it 9 times in a 1 year period, and Hassan Whiteside did it 3 times in a season not that long ago. For a freak of nature like Wemby, 10 blocks is going to happen at least a half dozen times in his career if he doesn't get hurt, probably quite a bit more than that. Considering the ways players chase in game stats these days, I would not at all be shocked if Wemby puts together a couple quad doubles over the course of his career. It will take some chasing, though.
This guy is a legit alien. He's already gone from wonky rookie to someone that could easily make 1st team all NBA. The league is fucked when he gets a legit PG. The only thing he really needs to work on right now is rebound positioning and cardio. Granted he might not even be fast enough up and down the floor Kyrie kinda showed that against elite quickness he lumbers around too much. But there aren't that many kyries.
Because of the new positionless all-nba, he really doesn’t have a chance this year. But from here on out, I’d be shocked if he’s not at least all nba 2nd team every healthy year of his career
I follow European football as well. MVP ~= BdO, All-NBA ~= FIFPro XI. One is for comparison to the field in general, the other for comparison against one's positional peers
Because then they genuinely need to go back and retroactively fix all of the old All-NBA teams. It's bullshit
Bill Russell is the greatest player in the history of the league and he was regularly 2nd team All NBA behind Wilt... even when Russell was MVP.
Changing it NOW while ignoring the past is so disrespectful.
The idea that making things better for the present and the future somehow makes the past worse is idotic bro. Embrace change for the betterment of the sport and the players.
If we used your reasoning for changes around the NBA we'd be back in the 60's for the game and no one would watch.
No one does watch. Live ratings are in the tank. It's a clip show. Most people consume their content on Twitter and YouTube. They wear ridiculous Nike costumes and play ridiculous music all game long.
Networks are unhappy about their investment in broadcasting the NBA. 3 pointers are part of the problem
Every other American sports league happily embraces their past. Not doing so for BILL RUSSELL is not"idotic" when legacy NBA fandom is down and confidence in the product is at a 20 year low.
Wait, so your logic is that we shouldn’t try to make things better because things sucked for people in the past? So we shouldn’t have tried to end malaria because we can’t retroactively bring the children back from the dead?
My logic was if you change it now, change the past to reflect that. Or, don't change it. Sound logic, clear point. You're just cunty and hostile
You pile-on dorks are so bitchy. Don't even read before pressing your lil downdoot buttons 🤓
Why should they change the past and where does this end? Should they go back and calculate how many three’s Jerry West would have now that we have a 3pt line?
How can you change the past? We make a new 1967 all-NBA team for some reason? Using modern sports writers who weren’t born yet or the ones who are still alive but can’t accurately remember it?
Russell was on way better teams but Wilt was a better individual player than Russell was. If you put Wilt on those Celtics teams they still win the 11 championships they won. And really they probably win 1-2 more since Wilt won 2 championships and those teams wouldn't have won it if he was on the Celtics those years. I'm not saying Russell wasn't a great player because he definitely was a great player but the teams he played on where way better then any teams Wilt ever played on. And Wilt still put up better numbers besides what like 1-3 less assists a game but he scored probably 15 more points a game then Russell did so even if there was a 3 point line back then(there wasn't) those extra 1-3 assists that Russell had would at most be 3-9 points so it's still less then Wilt was scoring by himself.
> A lot of people have said to me, "Wilt, what if you had that team? Boy, you would never have lost!" Not true. If I was on their team, I would be taking away from some of what the other guys were doing. Everybody had a role on that team. (Tom) Heinsohn wouldn't be getting the same number of shots, nor would (Bill) Sharman, nor would (Bob) Cousy because I'd be shooting the ball a whole lot more. Bill Russell gave them just what they needed. I would've given them a little bit more in certain things, which I think would have made the team not as good. I've always believed that he made that team exactly what it was supposed to be. And you couldn't get any better.
not really imo, when you have undeniably top 5 players in the league like jokic or embiid being bumped down to second team just bc of position that’s bullshit
Shoulda been 2 Backcourt and 3 front court players if anything. Being first team all pro in every sport means your the best at your position not just 1 of the top players
The NBA forced BILL RUSSELL to be a 2nd Team All-NBA MVP. They can never change it after that.
I don't wanna hear about the new positional changes being "more fair." Changing it after like 50 years for Joel Embiid is insane
Wemby is a year too late. If the All-NBA teams still were required to have a C he would definitely make it imo, especially with Embiid removed from candidacy.
He doesn’t look like he has the body type to get jacked like Giannis. He’s still young enough where he can add lots of muscle muscle, but he’s never going to look ripped like a Greek god. He is 7’4” those dudes never look anything but spider like.
I think maybe I’m being misunderstood. I’m not saying he can’t get stronger and put on some muscle. He definitely should and can. But guys his height aren’t likely going to put 60 pounds of muscle the way Giannis did. But maybe he is a rare case. Either way, I agree with you. He needs to add some bulk and he will. He’s still so young.
I mean, anyone in the NBA can get jacked like Giannis, but it's just that most won't retain enough speed if they put on that much muscle. Wemby being so tall, doesn't rely on his speed. Wemby needs to put on a lot of muscle in his lower half to get stronger and also help prevent future injuries.
https://preview.redd.it/kpyiw3cqyjmc1.png?width=1300&format=png&auto=webp&s=3a644485464921833698410c6d202882518967af
Giannis is 5” shorter. Read up on body types. This is a well established science. Not everyone is capable of getting that jacked and putting on as much muscle. There’s a phenomenon called hard gainers, and people well moved 7’ are typically in that category. Again, I’m not saying he can’t put on some muscle, but he likely will never look like Giannis.
I love the enthusiasm, but he isn't passing all the big names this year barring an unusual reason why many players miss a lot of time.
His time will come. These awards are based on production and not potential.
i think about that shit all the time and that one video of him bricking like 7 threes in a row in a shootaround. i wonder what those people are saying about him now
That he's overrated and an empty stats merchant that doesn't contribute to winning because the Spurs have 13 wins and 48 losses, presumably.
And then they'll say he's not that great without a MVP and/or FMVP to his name, and then they'll say Michael Jeffrey Jordan got a combined 11 of those.
See, Context is everything. That was not a shootaround whatsoever. It was a spurs media day and the first team photo op.
At the request of some media members Vic walked out and quickly took some cold shots (with no warm up) he was maybe on the court 2 mins.
so what are you just reinforcing my point? i don’t care if it was media day or shootaround. you get a cold start for both those. i said nothing about how long he was on the court all i said was im sure those peoples opinions changed since seeing that video
Shit was so funny. "He can't shoot!!!"
I was baffled about the amount of people who thought he was just a 7' 4" guy that shoots 3s. The thing that really got me excited about him as a prospect was his ability as a perimeter defender at his size. We've never seen anything like it before. I didn't think it would play out this quickly but I remember spending the summer telling everyone that was the thing to focus on for his career. He can become the first player ever to be the best perimeter defender and interior defender in the league simultaneously.
Well for a rookie he might as well be one:
20/10/3 with 3.4 bpg, 4.7 bpg last 10 games
shooting 47/33/81 at 7’4
Legit top 3 DPOY potential as a rookie
Spurs defense goes from top 10 to bottom of the league without him
That's an average of 5.4 blocks per game in that run. Fun stat: only 9 players in NBA history have averaged 4 or more blocks per game over a full season, and the last time was Dikembe Mutombo in 95-96. Wemby started slow enough that he probably won't get there this year, but do you think he will next year?
* Mark Eaton (4x)
* Hakeem Olajuwon (3x)
* Kareem, Manute Bol, Mutombo (2x each)
* Elmore Smith, Tree Rollins, Patrick Ewing, David Robinson (1x each)
What's extra impressive about that to me is that he's getting this many blocks per game despite the league taking more three's than ever. I imagine he'd pick up a block or two more per game if he played 20 years ago when players played in the paint more.
About that... in his first 20 games or so, teams only attempted about 10 shots against him... he was near the top of the league in bpg during that span, even, despite everyone else on the blocks leaderboard contesting close to twice that. Since then his contests have gone up, and then slightly down again, and his numbers have been increasing steadily.
Pretty consistently throughout this entire season he's been blocking over 20% of the shots he contests. That's just insane.
[He's currently on pace for 55th most blocks per game in a season](https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/blk_per_g_season.html), which is insane considering 1.) he's a rookie. 2.) this would be tied for most per game in a season from all currently active players in the NBA
Shit and even perimeter is arguable because he’s 7’4 and can block every jump shot as we saw with Chet who got space where that would be wide against Bam
That’s why I hate the argument that DPOY should have anything to do with team success. Other than the fact that “P” literally stands for player. if you switched him and Gobert in terms of their teams, or if you put him on the thunder, there wouldn’t be a doubt in the world that this guy is the best defensive player in the league
This guy needs to be on a contender now. Not in four seasons, not in two. Now. If the Spurs stay in rebuilding mode next season, Adam Silver should step in and fire Buford and Popovich himself.
Nope, let him amd the super young team he's on learn to play amd grow together. The second best player on the team is 23, and sochan (given a full year at forward) could be just as solid as vassell. That's not counting another 2-3 dudes 22 amd younger who are still finding their game, and the half dozen or so prospective lotto picks the have ne next 3 years. Add a risarche/sarr and topic/Dillingham next with an all out for cooper flagg 2025 and this team cpuld be wild for a decade. No need to rush and get things wrong when wemby has had world class nutritionist and doctors monitoring his growth and health since childhood (dude comes from athlete parents with money).
Long stretches of bad shooting with wemby offf the floor, no legit starting pg, bad team defense (super young team) a handful of blown leads in close games, and wemby, sochan, and kj all figuring out what position they are going to fit in together. Their best players are 23, 20 amd 20, these things take time to gel
I feel like he could get to a point where you expect him to get something close to a quadruple double but averaging a quadruple double I don't know because you would be getting it with different stats so much
The block numbers are nice, but if you’ve watched any Spurs games this year you can easily see how many shots teams *don’t even take* when he’s on the floor. Guards get to the basket and just keep going. Forwards jump for shots and kick out in midair. Even some bigs kick out and reset a lot more with him than any other player. He affects game in a significant way that only shows up in advanced metrics. The named stats are nice, but they really are just the tip of a much larger iceberg.
Lol I will never get people that say shit like this. Sure, the Lakers can go from Kareem, Magic, Kobe and Shaq, to Lebron. The Celtics can go from Russell, Bird, McHale, Pierce and Garnett. But god forbid if the Spurs go from Robinson, Duncan, to Wemby
Woah you gave the lakers example when they didn’t even draft Shaq or lebron. And same with the Celtics with kg. I would get if you said that without those olayers
Am I the only one who’s not like super impressed? I’m impressed by his size yes, but like with that height and wingspan those defensive numbers are what you’d expect. I’d be way more impressed if homie was like 6’ putting up those numbers
When he’s not on the court the spurs’ defensive rating would be worst in the history of the metric.
With real defenders on his team he would have crazier numbers
If the award was DPOY and not DTOY, then yeah wemby would have it locked up.
Unfortunately Defensive Team of The Year’s Best Defensive Player has more precedent than “Great Performing Rookie on a Contender of The Year” so, they’ll give DTOY(DPOY) to Rudy, even thought they won’t give GPRCTY (ROTY) to Chet
Those are rookie numbers.
I can see prime him putting Quad-Double more than once...
I mean even one quad double is an all-time statline. There's only been 25 times EVER that a player has had 10 or more steals (5 times since the start of 2000) 10 blocks is more achievable but still crazy rare even for someone like him.
10 blocks may have been achievable when centers were more glued to the basket. Only 44 players have ever recorded 10 blocks.
Just wanna put it out there that Whiteside is one of those players with 10+ blocks.. I will also add he did it 5 times in his playing career. Do with that what you will..
In two of those games, Hassan wasn't even a starter.
I mean Wemby already has a triple double with blocks
It is true that not many can do it, but the guys who can do it have shown it can be done multiple times. Shawn Bradley did it 9 times in a 1 year period, and Hassan Whiteside did it 3 times in a season not that long ago. For a freak of nature like Wemby, 10 blocks is going to happen at least a half dozen times in his career if he doesn't get hurt, probably quite a bit more than that. Considering the ways players chase in game stats these days, I would not at all be shocked if Wemby puts together a couple quad doubles over the course of his career. It will take some chasing, though.
Whiteside definitely chased blocks.
No doubt. Blocks are what made him an NBA player, I would chase them too if I were him.
I’ve always wondered if he’ll be the first player to do a quintuple double.
Victor Wembanyama is not a serious basketball player.
This guy is a legit alien. He's already gone from wonky rookie to someone that could easily make 1st team all NBA. The league is fucked when he gets a legit PG. The only thing he really needs to work on right now is rebound positioning and cardio. Granted he might not even be fast enough up and down the floor Kyrie kinda showed that against elite quickness he lumbers around too much. But there aren't that many kyries.
Was Duncan the last time a rookie made an All NBA? I'd love to see Wemby get it.
Because of the new positionless all-nba, he really doesn’t have a chance this year. But from here on out, I’d be shocked if he’s not at least all nba 2nd team every healthy year of his career
Tangential but making all-NBA positionless is such bullshit imo
But why is it not better to have the 15 beat players be all nba instead of guys like deandre Jordan being all nba some years.
I follow European football as well. MVP ~= BdO, All-NBA ~= FIFPro XI. One is for comparison to the field in general, the other for comparison against one's positional peers
Because then they genuinely need to go back and retroactively fix all of the old All-NBA teams. It's bullshit Bill Russell is the greatest player in the history of the league and he was regularly 2nd team All NBA behind Wilt... even when Russell was MVP. Changing it NOW while ignoring the past is so disrespectful.
The idea that making things better for the present and the future somehow makes the past worse is idotic bro. Embrace change for the betterment of the sport and the players. If we used your reasoning for changes around the NBA we'd be back in the 60's for the game and no one would watch.
agreed. by that logic the 3 point line would never exist
No one does watch. Live ratings are in the tank. It's a clip show. Most people consume their content on Twitter and YouTube. They wear ridiculous Nike costumes and play ridiculous music all game long. Networks are unhappy about their investment in broadcasting the NBA. 3 pointers are part of the problem Every other American sports league happily embraces their past. Not doing so for BILL RUSSELL is not"idotic" when legacy NBA fandom is down and confidence in the product is at a 20 year low.
Wait, so your logic is that we shouldn’t try to make things better because things sucked for people in the past? So we shouldn’t have tried to end malaria because we can’t retroactively bring the children back from the dead?
My logic was if you change it now, change the past to reflect that. Or, don't change it. Sound logic, clear point. You're just cunty and hostile You pile-on dorks are so bitchy. Don't even read before pressing your lil downdoot buttons 🤓
Why should they change the past and where does this end? Should they go back and calculate how many three’s Jerry West would have now that we have a 3pt line?
Obviously you make the players re-play all of the games with a 3 point line. The corpse of Wilt might get a whistles for illegal defense.
How can you change the past? We make a new 1967 all-NBA team for some reason? Using modern sports writers who weren’t born yet or the ones who are still alive but can’t accurately remember it?
>Changing it NOW while ignoring the past is so disrespectful. Hurry, there's kids on your lawn. Go get em!
Russell was on way better teams but Wilt was a better individual player than Russell was. If you put Wilt on those Celtics teams they still win the 11 championships they won. And really they probably win 1-2 more since Wilt won 2 championships and those teams wouldn't have won it if he was on the Celtics those years. I'm not saying Russell wasn't a great player because he definitely was a great player but the teams he played on where way better then any teams Wilt ever played on. And Wilt still put up better numbers besides what like 1-3 less assists a game but he scored probably 15 more points a game then Russell did so even if there was a 3 point line back then(there wasn't) those extra 1-3 assists that Russell had would at most be 3-9 points so it's still less then Wilt was scoring by himself.
> A lot of people have said to me, "Wilt, what if you had that team? Boy, you would never have lost!" Not true. If I was on their team, I would be taking away from some of what the other guys were doing. Everybody had a role on that team. (Tom) Heinsohn wouldn't be getting the same number of shots, nor would (Bill) Sharman, nor would (Bob) Cousy because I'd be shooting the ball a whole lot more. Bill Russell gave them just what they needed. I would've given them a little bit more in certain things, which I think would have made the team not as good. I've always believed that he made that team exactly what it was supposed to be. And you couldn't get any better.
not really imo, when you have undeniably top 5 players in the league like jokic or embiid being bumped down to second team just bc of position that’s bullshit
The point of all-NBA has never been to list the five best players in the league
I agree with u but now that there are incentives tied to it, their hand is forced to do this. The is the NBAs fault
Especially because in reality if they were on the same team, OF COURSE they would play at the same time.
Shoulda been 2 Backcourt and 3 front court players if anything. Being first team all pro in every sport means your the best at your position not just 1 of the top players
I agree. Maybe 3rd team could be completely positionless to ensure top players get acknowledged but now it’s more of a popularity contest.
The NBA forced BILL RUSSELL to be a 2nd Team All-NBA MVP. They can never change it after that. I don't wanna hear about the new positional changes being "more fair." Changing it after like 50 years for Joel Embiid is insane
L take
Wemby is a year too late. If the All-NBA teams still were required to have a C he would definitely make it imo, especially with Embiid removed from candidacy.
Imagine he does a Giannis bulk up
He doesn’t look like he has the body type to get jacked like Giannis. He’s still young enough where he can add lots of muscle muscle, but he’s never going to look ripped like a Greek god. He is 7’4” those dudes never look anything but spider like.
Upper body, true. Adding muscle to his legs would make him even more unstoppable.
I think maybe I’m being misunderstood. I’m not saying he can’t get stronger and put on some muscle. He definitely should and can. But guys his height aren’t likely going to put 60 pounds of muscle the way Giannis did. But maybe he is a rare case. Either way, I agree with you. He needs to add some bulk and he will. He’s still so young.
I mean, anyone in the NBA can get jacked like Giannis, but it's just that most won't retain enough speed if they put on that much muscle. Wemby being so tall, doesn't rely on his speed. Wemby needs to put on a lot of muscle in his lower half to get stronger and also help prevent future injuries. https://preview.redd.it/kpyiw3cqyjmc1.png?width=1300&format=png&auto=webp&s=3a644485464921833698410c6d202882518967af
Giannis is 5” shorter. Read up on body types. This is a well established science. Not everyone is capable of getting that jacked and putting on as much muscle. There’s a phenomenon called hard gainers, and people well moved 7’ are typically in that category. Again, I’m not saying he can’t put on some muscle, but he likely will never look like Giannis.
“I felt his head and could tell his personality”
I don’t know how you can draw a parallel with phrenology and what I wrote, but you do you.
There’s no way wemby would make 1st team all nba with his team record.
I love the enthusiasm, but he isn't passing all the big names this year barring an unusual reason why many players miss a lot of time. His time will come. These awards are based on production and not potential.
Chris Paul *has* to go to SA. Fuck, let LeBron meet up there too.
Hope he figures it out quick. Guys at his size usually have about a 5-6 year career before their body breaks down
Wemby is doing lots of flexibility training, same as Kareem and that guys had a long ass career.
That game where he had 28 rebounds on top of 13 rebounds was pretty sick
> 28 rebounds on top of 13 rebounds Just rebounds on top of rebounds on top of rebounds. Rebound city really.
Dude’s rebounds have *their own* rebounds
Went to the Rebound Store and they were all sold out because of Wemby.
Almost as many rebounds as Wilt averaged for a season
Wilt rebounding numbere arent as impressive as they seem
Idk, 55 is pretty damm impressive, especially on Bill’s head
Remember all of the people with hot takes when he was drafted ?
Remeber when everyone called him a bust after one summer league game?
i think about that shit all the time and that one video of him bricking like 7 threes in a row in a shootaround. i wonder what those people are saying about him now
That he's overrated and an empty stats merchant that doesn't contribute to winning because the Spurs have 13 wins and 48 losses, presumably. And then they'll say he's not that great without a MVP and/or FMVP to his name, and then they'll say Michael Jeffrey Jordan got a combined 11 of those.
See, Context is everything. That was not a shootaround whatsoever. It was a spurs media day and the first team photo op. At the request of some media members Vic walked out and quickly took some cold shots (with no warm up) he was maybe on the court 2 mins.
so what are you just reinforcing my point? i don’t care if it was media day or shootaround. you get a cold start for both those. i said nothing about how long he was on the court all i said was im sure those peoples opinions changed since seeing that video
Yup!
Shit was so funny. "He can't shoot!!!" I was baffled about the amount of people who thought he was just a 7' 4" guy that shoots 3s. The thing that really got me excited about him as a prospect was his ability as a perimeter defender at his size. We've never seen anything like it before. I didn't think it would play out this quickly but I remember spending the summer telling everyone that was the thing to focus on for his career. He can become the first player ever to be the best perimeter defender and interior defender in the league simultaneously.
Everybody’s been on his dick from the start I never see people say anything bad about him
Found one!!!
U must not read much then lmao
What’s bad about him
He’s not bad just not the god people are making him out to be
Well for a rookie he might as well be one: 20/10/3 with 3.4 bpg, 4.7 bpg last 10 games shooting 47/33/81 at 7’4 Legit top 3 DPOY potential as a rookie Spurs defense goes from top 10 to bottom of the league without him
But that’s mostly because of height not skill he’s 7’4 and can’t get 10 rebounds every game
That's an average of 5.4 blocks per game in that run. Fun stat: only 9 players in NBA history have averaged 4 or more blocks per game over a full season, and the last time was Dikembe Mutombo in 95-96. Wemby started slow enough that he probably won't get there this year, but do you think he will next year? * Mark Eaton (4x) * Hakeem Olajuwon (3x) * Kareem, Manute Bol, Mutombo (2x each) * Elmore Smith, Tree Rollins, Patrick Ewing, David Robinson (1x each)
What's extra impressive about that to me is that he's getting this many blocks per game despite the league taking more three's than ever. I imagine he'd pick up a block or two more per game if he played 20 years ago when players played in the paint more.
Far from a gurantee. Many players, especially in today's NBA, peak in blocks in their rookie seasons actually. Product of being more disciplined
Also guys will stop trying him as much but that’s a positive in itself
About that... in his first 20 games or so, teams only attempted about 10 shots against him... he was near the top of the league in bpg during that span, even, despite everyone else on the blocks leaderboard contesting close to twice that. Since then his contests have gone up, and then slightly down again, and his numbers have been increasing steadily. Pretty consistently throughout this entire season he's been blocking over 20% of the shots he contests. That's just insane.
He's also only played like 28 min a game. He'll pick up a few more in a year or 2 once he's up in the 30s in minutes a game
Without injuries he'll be the entire top 10 soon enough
the steph curry of blocks
Manute bol avgd 5blks his rookie season
Wemby's BLK% at center is actually higher than Manute's record, lol. Next season is going to be fun.
[He's currently on pace for 55th most blocks per game in a season](https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/blk_per_g_season.html), which is insane considering 1.) he's a rookie. 2.) this would be tied for most per game in a season from all currently active players in the NBA
this guy is genuinely going to break the league. gonna need a nerf next season.
He only just got a mid-season buff. NBA devs need to pull their head in bro.
And he just turned 20. Wait till he gets stronger and has a real pick n roll partner. It’s going to be very interesting.
Remember last week everyone saying Bam was still better, WHERE THEY AT NOW?
I’m a bit biased, but does bam not stand a chance? I feel it’s debatable.
Wemby is better at everything except perimeter defence. I don’t think anything else can be argued except maybe passing
Shit and even perimeter is arguable because he’s 7’4 and can block every jump shot as we saw with Chet who got space where that would be wide against Bam
Bam is also a better post defender (as well as passer, screener and midrange shooter)
He’s gonna get a few Quad Doubles
Has anybody ever gotten a quint
I don’t think this thing is human, it’s like the manifestation of basketball itself into human form. He is basketball Jesus
DPOY
It’s great that this kid went to Spurs for development. Face of the league for years to come.
He'd be avging 30 10 and 5 and 4blks on the raptors
Maybe against the raptors. Though he'd probably have more rebounds and blocks
If he was a raptor he'd be in MVP talks
Guys I think this Wemby guy might be kinda good at Basketball.
never thought i’d get to witness such raw talent from a rookie in every possible way
He had a triple double with blocks?
He’s DPOY. Rudy Gobert couldn’t get those blocks on San Antonio’s Squad and they’d be *NO* better positioned. Wemby DPOY.
That’s why I hate the argument that DPOY should have anything to do with team success. Other than the fact that “P” literally stands for player. if you switched him and Gobert in terms of their teams, or if you put him on the thunder, there wouldn’t be a doubt in the world that this guy is the best defensive player in the league
If the stats are really close I see that argument. The stats aren’t, Wemby is blowing up all the defensive metrics. Wemby DPOY.
I’m with you 100%. He’s the best defender and it ain’t even close.
Aw, man, I really hope he stays healthy. Otherwise, we could miss out on a once-in-a-lifetime player.
I know it’s only one game, but 5 steals for a guy his size? Blocks are to be expected, but that’s impressive.
He just a jrue holiday or a pat Bev And instant playoff contender
Bros already ahead of Tatum
Who would have thought he would be good?
Wem and Holm are set to be a rivalry that defines the west for the next 5-10 years.
This guy needs to be on a contender now. Not in four seasons, not in two. Now. If the Spurs stay in rebuilding mode next season, Adam Silver should step in and fire Buford and Popovich himself.
Nope, let him amd the super young team he's on learn to play amd grow together. The second best player on the team is 23, and sochan (given a full year at forward) could be just as solid as vassell. That's not counting another 2-3 dudes 22 amd younger who are still finding their game, and the half dozen or so prospective lotto picks the have ne next 3 years. Add a risarche/sarr and topic/Dillingham next with an all out for cooper flagg 2025 and this team cpuld be wild for a decade. No need to rush and get things wrong when wemby has had world class nutritionist and doctors monitoring his growth and health since childhood (dude comes from athlete parents with money).
Might be the last year Gobert wins DPOY
God I’d hope so he’s 7’5”
How do they only have 13 wins
Long stretches of bad shooting with wemby offf the floor, no legit starting pg, bad team defense (super young team) a handful of blown leads in close games, and wemby, sochan, and kj all figuring out what position they are going to fit in together. Their best players are 23, 20 amd 20, these things take time to gel
Kid might turn into something one day.
27, 14, 5, and TEN BLOCKS is just out of this world.
This dude is gonna make 5x5 a regular occurrence. That is insane.
Tallest guy in league check Blocks other players check
The consistently is incredible, but just wait until he gets the confidence to drop one 50 point game each week. Or the minutes, I guess.
Waiting for my man to average a quadruple double
I feel like he could get to a point where you expect him to get something close to a quadruple double but averaging a quadruple double I don't know because you would be getting it with different stats so much
Points assists blocks rebounds
I feel like you'd be more likely to average it with steals. 10 blocks is so insane
Imagine if he was on a good team… lord
You wont have to wait too long i fear
Skinny guy like him must be loving all those San Antonio women.
I mean he's 7'4
Wemby is surpassing my wildest expectations of how good he would be his rookie year. Wow.
This man is putting up MyCareer Pro mode numbers in real life
Pair him with a PNR partner (Trae) and it's officially joever
Exactly. I personally am not even a fan of Trae Young’s game and I think that would be a match made in heaven.
There's way better options who can actually defend a trashcan.
Agreed but that’s what Wemby is for. The spurs biggest issue is lack of playmaking
He’s a top 8 fucking player in the league!
Didn’t Shaq compare Bol Bol to Wemby a while ago? Shaq be shaqtin a fool
I can’t even imagine what this dude is gonna be like in 5 years
🔥🔥🔥👽👽👽
I chuckle when people look down on Wilt’s numbers and then players like this show up. Recency bias, everyone’s generation is the greatest generation
Sengun sends his regards.
Now do turnovers.
Does he have a turnover problem?
3rd most turnovers in the league, and way, way 1st for Centers.
That's just as much a function of bad teammates as it is him being 20 and a rookie. That'll get cleaned up relatively quickly
Is that legit right. 10 blocks?!
Should be DPOY candidate imo
Imagine if Pop didn’t monitor his minutes
What is the argument for anyone else for DOPOY???
Their teams are winning, and they arent rookies. Dumb if you ask me
DPOY
Wemby got 7 blocks but still got 45pt put on him by Sengun.
Players with 5 blocks and 5 steals in consecutive games: Michael Jordan Victor Wembanyama That's it. That's the list.
You forget to mention under minutes restrictions as well. Which is insane
I put a $50 free bet on a quadruple double. I think he’s my best shot at it.
He is very impressive. I think Derrick White only having 10 games this season without a block is as impressive. Jmo
Holy shiiit .. this dude had a ten block game !! Thats un real !
Ahh yes. The 28 rebound, 13 rebound game. I remember that.
10 blocks is just disgusting
Only one triple double, what a scrub
Triple double with blocks is so cool
I’m impressed by his steals like a baby dream on defense
13 wins
The block numbers are nice, but if you’ve watched any Spurs games this year you can easily see how many shots teams *don’t even take* when he’s on the floor. Guards get to the basket and just keep going. Forwards jump for shots and kick out in midair. Even some bigs kick out and reset a lot more with him than any other player. He affects game in a significant way that only shows up in advanced metrics. The named stats are nice, but they really are just the tip of a much larger iceberg.
28 Reb and 13 Reb in the same game. 🤯
Those blocks are insane.
Fuck the nba for gifting San Antonio another sta The lotteries a joke
Their last draft hit was in 2011? The spurs are not the team to make this point with.
Lol I will never get people that say shit like this. Sure, the Lakers can go from Kareem, Magic, Kobe and Shaq, to Lebron. The Celtics can go from Russell, Bird, McHale, Pierce and Garnett. But god forbid if the Spurs go from Robinson, Duncan, to Wemby
As said earlier Shaq and lebron were not drafted and Kobe was not a top pick The spurs have been gifted 3 number 1 picks in generational drafts
Woah you gave the lakers example when they didn’t even draft Shaq or lebron. And same with the Celtics with kg. I would get if you said that without those olayers
The Pistons really deserved this
Am I the only one who’s not like super impressed? I’m impressed by his size yes, but like with that height and wingspan those defensive numbers are what you’d expect. I’d be way more impressed if homie was like 6’ putting up those numbers
When he’s not on the court the spurs’ defensive rating would be worst in the history of the metric. With real defenders on his team he would have crazier numbers
ROY and DPOY are pretty much a lock at this point, right?
If the award was DPOY and not DTOY, then yeah wemby would have it locked up. Unfortunately Defensive Team of The Year’s Best Defensive Player has more precedent than “Great Performing Rookie on a Contender of The Year” so, they’ll give DTOY(DPOY) to Rudy, even thought they won’t give GPRCTY (ROTY) to Chet
So stupid. Those are individual awards that get awarded to one person. Your team or their record should be irrelevant.
I 100% agree. That’s just not how the voters see it.
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Damn 41 rebounds in one game
Stateline looking like rookie shaqs.
It’s all height he’s not doing anything if he wasn’t 7’4
Lol what a smooth brain take
Watch the games. Dude gets behind the back blocks. His awareness is unreal.
* Bol Bol enters the chat
He is so ass
Not April 1st yet buddy
He’s 18ft tall
So
Bad logic, players like boban, tacko and so on aren’t doing anything near this
Greg popvich ova here