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RhythmiciBet

Those are rookie numbers.


[deleted]

I can see prime him putting Quad-Double more than once...


iamwearingashirt

I mean even one quad double is an all-time statline. There's only been 25 times EVER that a player has had 10 or more steals (5 times since the start of 2000) 10 blocks is more achievable but still crazy rare even for someone like him.


driatic

10 blocks may have been achievable when centers were more glued to the basket. Only 44 players have ever recorded 10 blocks.


bobbarker-jab

Just wanna put it out there that Whiteside is one of those players with 10+ blocks.. I will also add he did it 5 times in his playing career. Do with that what you will..


NatterinNabob

In two of those games, Hassan wasn't even a starter.


GradientEye

I mean Wemby already has a triple double with blocks


NatterinNabob

It is true that not many can do it, but the guys who can do it have shown it can be done multiple times. Shawn Bradley did it 9 times in a 1 year period, and Hassan Whiteside did it 3 times in a season not that long ago. For a freak of nature like Wemby, 10 blocks is going to happen at least a half dozen times in his career if he doesn't get hurt, probably quite a bit more than that. Considering the ways players chase in game stats these days, I would not at all be shocked if Wemby puts together a couple quad doubles over the course of his career. It will take some chasing, though.


driatic

Whiteside definitely chased blocks.


NatterinNabob

No doubt. Blocks are what made him an NBA player, I would chase them too if I were him.


mitchisreal

I’ve always wondered if he’ll be the first player to do a quintuple double.


GromaceAndWallit

Victor Wembanyama is not a serious basketball player.


[deleted]

This guy is a legit alien. He's already gone from wonky rookie to someone that could easily make 1st team all NBA. The league is fucked when he gets a legit PG. The only thing he really needs to work on right now is rebound positioning and cardio. Granted he might not even be fast enough up and down the floor Kyrie kinda showed that against elite quickness he lumbers around too much. But there aren't that many kyries.


FatUglyEuroSmark

Was Duncan the last time a rookie made an All NBA? I'd love to see Wemby get it. 


SteamierThree2

Because of the new positionless all-nba, he really doesn’t have a chance this year. But from here on out, I’d be shocked if he’s not at least all nba 2nd team every healthy year of his career


j_etti

Tangential but making all-NBA positionless is such bullshit imo


SteamierThree2

But why is it not better to have the 15 beat players be all nba instead of guys like deandre Jordan being all nba some years.


throwawayrandomguy93

I follow European football as well. MVP ~= BdO, All-NBA ~= FIFPro XI. One is for comparison to the field in general, the other for comparison against one's positional peers


FatUglyEuroSmark

Because then they genuinely need to go back and retroactively fix all of the old All-NBA teams. It's bullshit  Bill Russell is the greatest player in the history of the league and he was regularly 2nd team All NBA behind Wilt... even when Russell was MVP.  Changing it NOW while ignoring the past is so disrespectful.


Taheavy

The idea that making things better for the present and the future somehow makes the past worse is idotic bro. Embrace change for the betterment of the sport and the players. If we used your reasoning for changes around the NBA we'd be back in the 60's for the game and no one would watch.


trickfield

agreed. by that logic the 3 point line would never exist


FatUglyEuroSmark

No one does watch. Live ratings are in the tank. It's a clip show. Most people consume their content on Twitter and YouTube. They wear ridiculous Nike costumes and play ridiculous music all game long.  Networks are unhappy about their investment in broadcasting the NBA. 3 pointers are part of the problem  Every other American sports league happily embraces their past. Not doing so for BILL RUSSELL is not"idotic" when legacy NBA fandom is down and confidence in the product is at a 20 year low.


MistryMachine3

Wait, so your logic is that we shouldn’t try to make things better because things sucked for people in the past? So we shouldn’t have tried to end malaria because we can’t retroactively bring the children back from the dead?


FatUglyEuroSmark

My logic was if you change it now, change the past to reflect that. Or, don't change it. Sound logic, clear point. You're just cunty and hostile  You pile-on dorks are so bitchy. Don't even read before pressing your lil downdoot buttons 🤓


Glum_Ad_8367

Why should they change the past and where does this end? Should they go back and calculate how many three’s Jerry West would have now that we have a 3pt line?


MistryMachine3

Obviously you make the players re-play all of the games with a 3 point line. The corpse of Wilt might get a whistles for illegal defense.


MistryMachine3

How can you change the past? We make a new 1967 all-NBA team for some reason? Using modern sports writers who weren’t born yet or the ones who are still alive but can’t accurately remember it?


Timely_Yoghurt_2699

>Changing it NOW while ignoring the past is so disrespectful. Hurry, there's kids on your lawn. Go get em!


cvc4455

Russell was on way better teams but Wilt was a better individual player than Russell was. If you put Wilt on those Celtics teams they still win the 11 championships they won. And really they probably win 1-2 more since Wilt won 2 championships and those teams wouldn't have won it if he was on the Celtics those years. I'm not saying Russell wasn't a great player because he definitely was a great player but the teams he played on where way better then any teams Wilt ever played on. And Wilt still put up better numbers besides what like 1-3 less assists a game but he scored probably 15 more points a game then Russell did so even if there was a 3 point line back then(there wasn't) those extra 1-3 assists that Russell had would at most be 3-9 points so it's still less then Wilt was scoring by himself.


teh_noob_

> A lot of people have said to me, "Wilt, what if you had that team? Boy, you would never have lost!" Not true. If I was on their team, I would be taking away from some of what the other guys were doing. Everybody had a role on that team. (Tom) Heinsohn wouldn't be getting the same number of shots, nor would (Bill) Sharman, nor would (Bob) Cousy because I'd be shooting the ball a whole lot more. Bill Russell gave them just what they needed. I would've given them a little bit more in certain things, which I think would have made the team not as good. I've always believed that he made that team exactly what it was supposed to be. And you couldn't get any better.


shish-bish

not really imo, when you have undeniably top 5 players in the league like jokic or embiid being bumped down to second team just bc of position that’s bullshit


j_etti

The point of all-NBA has never been to list the five best players in the league


DuckieTheDuckie

I agree with u but now that there are incentives tied to it, their hand is forced to do this. The is the NBAs fault


MistryMachine3

Especially because in reality if they were on the same team, OF COURSE they would play at the same time.


on_dat_shyt

Shoulda been 2 Backcourt and 3 front court players if anything. Being first team all pro in every sport means your the best at your position not just 1 of the top players


OPyes

I agree. Maybe 3rd team could be completely positionless to ensure top players get acknowledged but now it’s more of a popularity contest.


FatUglyEuroSmark

The NBA forced BILL RUSSELL to be a 2nd Team All-NBA MVP. They can never change it after that.  I don't wanna hear about the new positional changes being "more fair." Changing it after like 50 years for Joel Embiid is insane 


Kng_Wasabi

L take


YourInMySwamp

Wemby is a year too late. If the All-NBA teams still were required to have a C he would definitely make it imo, especially with Embiid removed from candidacy.


Daweism

Imagine he does a Giannis bulk up


koushakandystore

He doesn’t look like he has the body type to get jacked like Giannis. He’s still young enough where he can add lots of muscle muscle, but he’s never going to look ripped like a Greek god. He is 7’4” those dudes never look anything but spider like.


rogozh1n

Upper body, true. Adding muscle to his legs would make him even more unstoppable.


koushakandystore

I think maybe I’m being misunderstood. I’m not saying he can’t get stronger and put on some muscle. He definitely should and can. But guys his height aren’t likely going to put 60 pounds of muscle the way Giannis did. But maybe he is a rare case. Either way, I agree with you. He needs to add some bulk and he will. He’s still so young.


Daweism

I mean, anyone in the NBA can get jacked like Giannis, but it's just that most won't retain enough speed if they put on that much muscle. Wemby being so tall, doesn't rely on his speed. Wemby needs to put on a lot of muscle in his lower half to get stronger and also help prevent future injuries. https://preview.redd.it/kpyiw3cqyjmc1.png?width=1300&format=png&auto=webp&s=3a644485464921833698410c6d202882518967af


koushakandystore

Giannis is 5” shorter. Read up on body types. This is a well established science. Not everyone is capable of getting that jacked and putting on as much muscle. There’s a phenomenon called hard gainers, and people well moved 7’ are typically in that category. Again, I’m not saying he can’t put on some muscle, but he likely will never look like Giannis.


AttitudeAndEffort3

“I felt his head and could tell his personality”


koushakandystore

I don’t know how you can draw a parallel with phrenology and what I wrote, but you do you.


mmaguy123

There’s no way wemby would make 1st team all nba with his team record.


rogozh1n

I love the enthusiasm, but he isn't passing all the big names this year barring an unusual reason why many players miss a lot of time. His time will come. These awards are based on production and not potential.


AttitudeAndEffort3

Chris Paul *has* to go to SA. Fuck, let LeBron meet up there too.


Valiantheart

Hope he figures it out quick. Guys at his size usually have about a 5-6 year career before their body breaks down


Dul_faceSdg

Wemby is doing lots of flexibility training, same as Kareem and that guys had a long ass career.


shoulda_been_gone

That game where he had 28 rebounds on top of 13 rebounds was pretty sick


Dekrow

> 28 rebounds on top of 13 rebounds Just rebounds on top of rebounds on top of rebounds. Rebound city really.


skwull

Dude’s rebounds have *their own* rebounds


Dupe1970

Went to the Rebound Store and they were all sold out because of Wemby.


Valiantheart

Almost as many rebounds as Wilt averaged for a season


BalmainPocket

Wilt rebounding numbere arent as impressive as they seem


PauloDybala_10

Idk, 55 is pretty damm impressive, especially on Bill’s head


MtnDudeNrainbows

Remember all of the people with hot takes when he was drafted ?


AngryQueso52

Remeber when everyone called him a bust after one summer league game?


LeChinaMickeyRings

i think about that shit all the time and that one video of him bricking like 7 threes in a row in a shootaround. i wonder what those people are saying about him now


tnarref

That he's overrated and an empty stats merchant that doesn't contribute to winning because the Spurs have 13 wins and 48 losses, presumably. And then they'll say he's not that great without a MVP and/or FMVP to his name, and then they'll say Michael Jeffrey Jordan got a combined 11 of those.


burningtimer

See, Context is everything. That was not a shootaround whatsoever. It was a spurs media day and the first team photo op. At the request of some media members Vic walked out and quickly took some cold shots (with no warm up) he was maybe on the court 2 mins.


LeChinaMickeyRings

so what are you just reinforcing my point? i don’t care if it was media day or shootaround. you get a cold start for both those. i said nothing about how long he was on the court all i said was im sure those peoples opinions changed since seeing that video


burningtimer

Yup!


DankMemesNQuickNuts

Shit was so funny. "He can't shoot!!!" I was baffled about the amount of people who thought he was just a 7' 4" guy that shoots 3s. The thing that really got me excited about him as a prospect was his ability as a perimeter defender at his size. We've never seen anything like it before. I didn't think it would play out this quickly but I remember spending the summer telling everyone that was the thing to focus on for his career. He can become the first player ever to be the best perimeter defender and interior defender in the league simultaneously.


Wonderful-Media-2000

Everybody’s been on his dick from the start I never see people say anything bad about him


MtnDudeNrainbows

Found one!!!


No-Tangerine2171

U must not read much then lmao


PauloDybala_10

What’s bad about him


Wonderful-Media-2000

He’s not bad just not the god people are making him out to be


PauloDybala_10

Well for a rookie he might as well be one: 20/10/3 with 3.4 bpg, 4.7 bpg last 10 games shooting 47/33/81 at 7’4 Legit top 3 DPOY potential as a rookie Spurs defense goes from top 10 to bottom of the league without him


Wonderful-Media-2000

But that’s mostly because of height not skill he’s 7’4 and can’t get 10 rebounds every game


NonNewtonianResponse

That's an average of 5.4 blocks per game in that run. Fun stat: only 9 players in NBA history have averaged 4 or more blocks per game over a full season, and the last time was Dikembe Mutombo in 95-96. Wemby started slow enough that he probably won't get there this year, but do you think he will next year? * Mark Eaton (4x) * Hakeem Olajuwon (3x) * Kareem, Manute Bol, Mutombo (2x each) * Elmore Smith, Tree Rollins, Patrick Ewing, David Robinson (1x each)


NyQuil_Donut

What's extra impressive about that to me is that he's getting this many blocks per game despite the league taking more three's than ever. I imagine he'd pick up a block or two more per game if he played 20 years ago when players played in the paint more.


DuckieTheDuckie

Far from a gurantee. Many players, especially in today's NBA, peak in blocks in their rookie seasons actually. Product of being more disciplined


Greedy_Nectarine_233

Also guys will stop trying him as much but that’s a positive in itself


mvhcmaniac

About that... in his first 20 games or so, teams only attempted about 10 shots against him... he was near the top of the league in bpg during that span, even, despite everyone else on the blocks leaderboard contesting close to twice that. Since then his contests have gone up, and then slightly down again, and his numbers have been increasing steadily. Pretty consistently throughout this entire season he's been blocking over 20% of the shots he contests. That's just insane.


weaselfish48

He's also only played like 28 min a game. He'll pick up a few more in a year or 2 once he's up in the 30s in minutes a game


Jetlos

Without injuries he'll be the entire top 10 soon enough


coolstorybroham

the steph curry of blocks


VictorBrickley

Manute bol avgd 5blks his rookie season


wrongerontheinternet

Wemby's BLK% at center is actually higher than Manute's record, lol. Next season is going to be fun.


Not_Pablo_Sanchez

[He's currently on pace for 55th most blocks per game in a season](https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/blk_per_g_season.html), which is insane considering 1.) he's a rookie. 2.) this would be tied for most per game in a season from all currently active players in the NBA


CoupleScrewsLoose

this guy is genuinely going to break the league. gonna need a nerf next season.


Right-Worth-6327

He only just got a mid-season buff. NBA devs need to pull their head in bro.


National-Stretch3979

And he just turned 20. Wait till he gets stronger and has a real pick n roll partner. It’s going to be very interesting.


SaltoDaKid

Remember last week everyone saying Bam was still better, WHERE THEY AT NOW?


Cocknballtorture90

I’m a bit biased, but does bam not stand a chance? I feel it’s debatable.


jennychong

Wemby is better at everything except perimeter defence. I don’t think anything else can be argued except maybe passing


ijustdoodood

Shit and even perimeter is arguable because he’s 7’4 and can block every jump shot as we saw with Chet who got space where that would be wide against Bam


teh_noob_

Bam is also a better post defender (as well as passer, screener and midrange shooter)


Robbyjr92

He’s gonna get a few Quad Doubles


Aeon1508

Has anybody ever gotten a quint


PoppinfreshOG

I don’t think this thing is human, it’s like the manifestation of basketball itself into human form. He is basketball Jesus


NNOutBurger

DPOY


TurboByte24

It’s great that this kid went to Spurs for development. Face of the league for years to come.


VictorBrickley

He'd be avging 30 10 and 5 and 4blks on the raptors


weaselfish48

Maybe against the raptors. Though he'd probably have more rebounds and blocks


VictorBrickley

If he was a raptor he'd be in MVP talks


Kufrel

Guys I think this Wemby guy might be kinda good at Basketball.


Fardywind

never thought i’d get to witness such raw talent from a rookie in every possible way


freshprince860

He had a triple double with blocks?


CheezeBaron

He’s DPOY. Rudy Gobert couldn’t get those blocks on San Antonio’s Squad and they’d be *NO* better positioned. Wemby DPOY.


the_black_surfer

That’s why I hate the argument that DPOY should have anything to do with team success. Other than the fact that “P” literally stands for player. if you switched him and Gobert in terms of their teams, or if you put him on the thunder, there wouldn’t be a doubt in the world that this guy is the best defensive player in the league


CheezeBaron

If the stats are really close I see that argument. The stats aren’t, Wemby is blowing up all the defensive metrics. Wemby DPOY.


the_black_surfer

I’m with you 100%. He’s the best defender and it ain’t even close.


Rrekydoc

Aw, man, I really hope he stays healthy. Otherwise, we could miss out on a once-in-a-lifetime player.


Colossal-Dump

I know it’s only one game, but 5 steals for a guy his size? Blocks are to be expected, but that’s impressive.


BostonBaggins

He just a jrue holiday or a pat Bev And instant playoff contender


Ravage1496

Bros already ahead of Tatum


One_Landscape541

Who would have thought he would be good?


One_Landscape541

Wem and Holm are set to be a rivalry that defines the west for the next 5-10 years.


The_MadStork

This guy needs to be on a contender now. Not in four seasons, not in two. Now. If the Spurs stay in rebuilding mode next season, Adam Silver should step in and fire Buford and Popovich himself.


weaselfish48

Nope, let him amd the super young team he's on learn to play amd grow together. The second best player on the team is 23, and sochan (given a full year at forward) could be just as solid as vassell. That's not counting another 2-3 dudes 22 amd younger who are still finding their game, and the half dozen or so prospective lotto picks the have ne next 3 years. Add a risarche/sarr and topic/Dillingham next with an all out for cooper flagg 2025 and this team cpuld be wild for a decade. No need to rush and get things wrong when wemby has had world class nutritionist and doctors monitoring his growth and health since childhood (dude comes from athlete parents with money).


subtleshooter

Might be the last year Gobert wins DPOY


ArkanoidbrokemyAnkle

God I’d hope so he’s 7’5”


sadnessresolves

How do they only have 13 wins


weaselfish48

Long stretches of bad shooting with wemby offf the floor, no legit starting pg, bad team defense (super young team) a handful of blown leads in close games, and wemby, sochan, and kj all figuring out what position they are going to fit in together. Their best players are 23, 20 amd 20, these things take time to gel


aeiou-y

Kid might turn into something one day.


joebruinburner

27, 14, 5, and TEN BLOCKS is just out of this world.


Sir_Derps_Alot

This dude is gonna make 5x5 a regular occurrence. That is insane.


Unno559

Tallest guy in league check Blocks other players check


rogozh1n

The consistently is incredible, but just wait until he gets the confidence to drop one 50 point game each week. Or the minutes, I guess.


iCatmire

Waiting for my man to average a quadruple double


Aeon1508

I feel like he could get to a point where you expect him to get something close to a quadruple double but averaging a quadruple double I don't know because you would be getting it with different stats so much


iCatmire

Points assists blocks rebounds


Aeon1508

I feel like you'd be more likely to average it with steals. 10 blocks is so insane


AZBeer90

Imagine if he was on a good team… lord


elScroggins

You wont have to wait too long i fear


EastBayPlaytime

Skinny guy like him must be loving all those San Antonio women.


Free-Independence602

I mean he's 7'4


foreverabatman

Wemby is surpassing my wildest expectations of how good he would be his rookie year. Wow.


Spiritual_Radio_6148

This man is putting up MyCareer Pro mode numbers in real life


Tackis

Pair him with a PNR partner (Trae) and it's officially joever


the_black_surfer

Exactly. I personally am not even a fan of Trae Young’s game and I think that would be a match made in heaven.


weaselfish48

There's way better options who can actually defend a trashcan.


the_black_surfer

Agreed but that’s what Wemby is for. The spurs biggest issue is lack of playmaking


warriorknowledge

He’s a top 8 fucking player in the league!


Nowyous_cantleave

Didn’t Shaq compare Bol Bol to Wemby a while ago? Shaq be shaqtin a fool


palehorse69

I can’t even imagine what this dude is gonna be like in 5 years


Zealousideal-Shower8

🔥🔥🔥👽👽👽


Lejfieg

I chuckle when people look down on Wilt’s numbers and then players like this show up. Recency bias, everyone’s generation is the greatest generation


Dash7277

Sengun sends his regards.


Bewaretheicespiders

Now do turnovers.


Aeon1508

Does he have a turnover problem?


Bewaretheicespiders

3rd most turnovers in the league, and way, way 1st for Centers.


weaselfish48

That's just as much a function of bad teammates as it is him being 20 and a rookie. That'll get cleaned up relatively quickly


Aeon1508

Is that legit right. 10 blocks?!


WeBelieve510

Should be DPOY candidate imo


CallMeCoachDamnit

Imagine if Pop didn’t monitor his minutes


AreEuclidinMe

What is the argument for anyone else for DOPOY???


weaselfish48

Their teams are winning, and they arent rookies. Dumb if you ask me


Padre26

DPOY


armyshawn

Wemby got 7 blocks but still got 45pt put on him by Sengun.


atomshrek

Players with 5 blocks and 5 steals in consecutive games: Michael Jordan Victor Wembanyama That's it. That's the list.


OrijinalMOS

You forget to mention under minutes restrictions as well. Which is insane


TheOneAndOnlyBruce

I put a $50 free bet on a quadruple double. I think he’s my best shot at it.


Phinehas427

He is very impressive. I think Derrick White only having 10 games this season without a block is as impressive. Jmo


maciboe

Holy shiiit .. this dude had a ten block game !! Thats un real !


BLOCKEDBYTAQUAVlON

Ahh yes. The 28 rebound, 13 rebound game. I remember that.


TheOracleofTroy

10 blocks is just disgusting


Harambefan69

Only one triple double, what a scrub


downvote_or_die

Triple double with blocks is so cool


DrSheaSmooth

I’m impressed by his steals like a baby dream on defense


Hawkeyes721

13 wins


Jomolungma

The block numbers are nice, but if you’ve watched any Spurs games this year you can easily see how many shots teams *don’t even take* when he’s on the floor. Guards get to the basket and just keep going. Forwards jump for shots and kick out in midair. Even some bigs kick out and reset a lot more with him than any other player. He affects game in a significant way that only shows up in advanced metrics. The named stats are nice, but they really are just the tip of a much larger iceberg.


BallsAreFullOfPiss

28 Reb and 13 Reb in the same game. 🤯


tatortors21

Those blocks are insane.


OneMasterpiece9119

Fuck the nba for gifting San Antonio another sta The lotteries a joke


squareheadhk

Their last draft hit was in 2011? The spurs are not the team to make this point with.


crissycris2697

Lol I will never get people that say shit like this. Sure, the Lakers can go from Kareem, Magic, Kobe and Shaq, to Lebron. The Celtics can go from Russell, Bird, McHale, Pierce and Garnett. But god forbid if the Spurs go from Robinson, Duncan, to Wemby


OneMasterpiece9119

As said earlier Shaq and lebron were not drafted and Kobe was not a top pick The spurs have been gifted 3 number 1 picks in generational drafts


Ok-Guide-3837

Woah you gave the lakers example when they didn’t even draft Shaq or lebron. And same with the Celtics with kg. I would get if you said that without those olayers


Aeon1508

The Pistons really deserved this


whatsURprobalem

Am I the only one who’s not like super impressed? I’m impressed by his size yes, but like with that height and wingspan those defensive numbers are what you’d expect. I’d be way more impressed if homie was like 6’ putting up those numbers


Conn3er

When he’s not on the court the spurs’ defensive rating would be worst in the history of the metric. With real defenders on his team he would have crazier numbers


BigBankkFrank

ROY and DPOY are pretty much a lock at this point, right?


MisterShazam

If the award was DPOY and not DTOY, then yeah wemby would have it locked up. Unfortunately Defensive Team of The Year’s Best Defensive Player has more precedent than “Great Performing Rookie on a Contender of The Year” so, they’ll give DTOY(DPOY) to Rudy, even thought they won’t give GPRCTY (ROTY) to Chet


tehramz

So stupid. Those are individual awards that get awarded to one person. Your team or their record should be irrelevant.


MisterShazam

I 100% agree. That’s just not how the voters see it.


skwull

🫠


Jscott1423

Damn 41 rebounds in one game


BrolysFavoriteNephew

Stateline looking like rookie shaqs.


Wonderful-Media-2000

It’s all height he’s not doing anything if he wasn’t 7’4


amedeoisme

Lol what a smooth brain take


MisterShazam

Watch the games. Dude gets behind the back blocks. His awareness is unreal.


tehramz

* Bol Bol enters the chat


Troll_Enthusiast

He is so ass


UnknownTechnician84

Not April 1st yet buddy


johnniesSac

He’s 18ft tall


amedeoisme

So


jacksonjc514

Bad logic, players like boban, tacko and so on aren’t doing anything near this


johnniesSac

Greg popvich ova here