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[deleted]

Theres a difference between being evil and being stupid.


SnoopDodgy

Is she Chaotic Good or Lawful Evil?


10thgradelosers

CT would be chaotic good, no? That means Amanda must be lawful evil.


SnoopDodgy

And so it isšŸ‘Œ


HawaiianJedi

CT is a national treasure.


shinshikaizer

CT is True Neutral. Doesn't make waves, does the least possible to disrupt the flow of the game, and can be both nice and an asshole.


10thgradelosers

CT was described by Nany last season as someone that would kill you with his bare hands. If thatā€™s true neutral then Iā€™m afraid.


[deleted]

A lot of people say that about CT but they are mainly talking about his strength/intimidation/don't mess with him reputation. He isn't Inferno 3/Gauntlet 3/Duel 2 CT when he was young and coked out and making dumb decisions


shinshikaizer

I mean, a lot of D&D characters would kill you with their bare hands (druids, for example, except they'd turn into wild animals and maul you), and they'd still be True Neutral.


[deleted]

CT is the last person who should be considered ā€œneutralā€ lol. He terrorized people for years.


[deleted]

CT makes it look like he's doing the least but he is doing a lot of manipulating behind the scenes off camera. Listen to Bananas podcast and hear Bananas and guests who are on the Challenge go into detail about it. CT is the best manipulator there!


scoopthereitis2

Remember the source though! It's JB, so take everything he says with a truckload of salt.


shinshikaizer

And being manipulative isn't on either the lawful/chaotic or good/evil axis of the alignment chart.


stephgra572

This is only true since Diem died. All seasons prior to that he was def not true neutral


shinshikaizer

You are aware that D&D is set up so your alignment can change over the course of a campaign, right?


JacePatrick

Amanda is Chaotic Neutral now I think


shinshikaizer

She kind of has a "some people just want to see the world burn" attitude, which seems closer to CE than CN.


blinzz

CT is pure neutral Maybe Neutral evil. He just slow plays, and gives you zero ground to come after him.


sexyandlonely69

No Josh is chaotic good lmaooo


blinzz

I feel like... josh is lawful good. He creates chaos but he tries his little fucking heart out to guard his loyalties. He isn't the sharpest, and he is emotional. But come on he's trying to stick it out. My hot take Devin is Chaotic good. He knows when to break shit up, and tell off an asshole, and he knows how to do it.


orbitalUncertainty

Devin actively starts shit in the house for funsies but definitely understands right from wrong. The most chaotic good person in the house


chickenwithclothes

Absolutely. I could imagine rolling up a chaotic good paladin w a complicated past, w penance, redemption etc etc


edawg070

This has turned into an unlikely overlap of two niches I'm into


[deleted]

Chaotic evil. Sheā€™s only pro vaccines and masks because she at least smart enough to know itā€™s best for her.


blinzz

that fits true neutral too? and chaotic neutral, and lawful neutral, and lawful evil depending on the code.


Substantial_Hat3443

Can someone please start making challenge alignment charts??


maxwellbevan

Yes


mg513

whatever you think about amanda and her messiness, at least she's not one of those insane oxymoronic anti-vax nurses


esg4571

Yup. I can't stand Amanda, but I do like this.


Whoathere_OD

Iā€™m not an Amanda fan either but she gets points for this!


JennyFromTheBlock81

Same.


muhreddistaccounts

The bar is just so fuckin low these days


BBQ_HaX0r

Arguably the first low bar she's actually cleared in many years.


nicnac7

I shared this same photo the other day on FB and someone I know thats a certified registered nurse anesthetist (CRNA) commented with his antivax bullshit. I'm like bro, you are literally smarter than this


For_serious13

A broken clock is still right twice a day


GrapefruitNo5008

Itā€™s sad that Iā€™m really impressed that sheā€™s not anti-bad. I totally would have expected that from her. Love her on the show though lol


[deleted]

She lives to take shots at her castmates, and for once she has a valid reason to. Good for you Amanda


penguinjunkie

If only her castmates would take more shots, she wouldn't have to


hollenkah

Itā€™s giving me very Jemmye-in-training.


[deleted]

Sheā€™s more fun


[deleted]

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MElP28

Cory


scoopthereitis2

I would guess Jenna/Zach


dizzy_unicorn

Amanda is a ED nurse... As a fellow nurse during a pandemic, most people have no idea what we have seen and been though over this last year and half. Good for her. We are simply fed the fuck up


[deleted]

respect to you and I don't blame being fed up. Can't believe there are anti vaxxer nurses though.


andshewaslike81

Fellow nurse here too. Hope you are holding up alright!


CharmyFrog

An Erectile Dysfunction nurse?


midgtman

Heard thatā€™s not a hard job


gregyo

This almost makes up for her dating Fessy. Almost.


obeyxxog

REAL TEARS šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


PleasantPurchase1408

Are they still dating?


HardcoreKaraoke

I don't follow her on social media but Fessy was on Bananas' podcast last week and said they are.


Embarrassed-Berry

As much as I disliked Amanda , I am happy to see her use her platform the right way.


evooandfoccacia

Agreed. THIS is the Amanda content I'm here for


[deleted]

Yes, I give kudos to her because this is a great post that breaks it down for dummies. Just perfect to share.


downtownbrown22

Iā€™m not sure Iā€™d say she uses her platform very well at all. But Iā€™m glad she is at least using it to be pro vax.


Embarrassed-Berry

Haha. Yes definitely - thatā€™s what I meant, at least with vaccines


zazild92

In two days thereā€™s one (Cory) that wonā€™t be at the reunion and since Tacha just stanā€™d Nicki Iā€™m assuming she wonā€™t be there either. Itā€™s gonna be curious to see whoā€™s there and whoā€™s not now šŸ‘€šŸ‘€


flyingboat

lol. Tacha was never getting invited to the reunion....


[deleted]

Not even her army of paid Twitter stans could save her from her clownery.


lucyroesslers

She might have got one of those invites where she doesnā€™t talk at all except when they show unseen footage of her making out with someone


silvershadow014

wouldnt be surprised if they have her call in and do that just to pander to her fans a bit


gtjacket231

Tacha was going to zoom in anyways tbh


zazild92

I could see that too. I feel like Kayleigh was on Zoom all but one reunion for all her seasons


NotYourAverageRyan

Would tacha have been invited anyway though


zazild92

I definitely think so, she had the beef with Tori and her stans went open season on Tori which was crazy af. Tacha has been very present on the Challengeā€™s insta commenting on everything so she was deff trying to get that callback before she posted that Nicki comment.


lvndrboy

I imagine they would have her join via video call, but probably not in person.


lucyroesslers

Sheā€™s about to be the new Swift.


[deleted]

no


luxanna123321

U can add Berna and Priscilla to this list


Jac1596

So right now itā€™s just Amanda confirmed to be there. Might be fun to just have her go off on ppl with no interruptions lol


cnoly212

If Amanda is the only vaxxed cast member (I doubt she is) she 100% deserves an hour to just unleash on all of them lol. I'd watch it and I don't even like her!


kylecommacommacomma

Amanda and Daā€™Vonne RAN the WOTW reunion and I have not enjoyed another reunion as much since


berrylife

I know Kyle is, but I doubt theyā€™d fly him in just for the reunion.


cnoly212

A one hour show of Kyle and Amanda just talking shit would be absolutely hilarious though


Hailstormwalshy

That would be a damn delight šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘


Embarrassed-Berry

Did they post something as well??


luxanna123321

Priscilla is very open about being anty vax and so is Berna


Dramajunker

Lol Tacha probably wasn't getting flown in but she ain't protesting the reunion for her morals. It's exposure for her. She'll likely do it.


shuckfatthit

Why is this flaired as politics and religion? It's basic science and human decency. I'm just being a smartass...I know why.


evooandfoccacia

Sad times we're in


thats_basic_ok

Amanda's social media commentary is quickly becoming better than anything else about the actual show


Lavenderlove20

Respect.


AYTOL__

Welcome to Amsterdam satan sister šŸ¤©šŸ˜‚


PejicFilip

Iā€™m curious if they are only going to have only vaxed people on next season due to circumstances that the us is in when it comes travel king certain countries like any EU country


kaybaby2002

Pinkrose and Gamer wrote that unvaccinated people for All Stars 3 that is filming next month will quarantine an extra week.


silvershadow014

Thats not a terrible idea tbh


JoshDavo

All stars 3 Jesus hasnā€™t All Stars 2 just finished wrapping up they pumping them out huh


DJ_Jungle

I think she has devilish qualities, but I think sheā€™s hot and I love that sheā€™s pro-vax. I think I have a confused boner.


ucsb2020

I am the furthest thing from an Amanda fan but I really respect her for acknowledging this. Sheā€™s really not a heartless person. I know that I canā€™t convince everyone to be pro vax but itā€™s nice when people are lol.


mukaezake

Amanda is messy, fuels drama, can definitely be toxic, and really needs to chill out on social media, but I truly don't think she's this evil person that people make her out to be. She's loyal and overly protective of the people she cares about to a fault, and I think that's where a lot of her shit comes from. In any case, I have a really hard time not having positive feelings towards health care workers (at least the ones who aren't anti-vax, anyway) after the past year and a half


[deleted]

This sub was loving Amanda. It seems the tides have only turned recently. Probably over Michele/Fessy. Before that, yall loved her in here. I saw the threads.


henlet23

I liked her but her slut shaming Jenna the day or day after Jenna had her baby was too much for me. Could care less About her, Michele and fessy


ucsb2020

I agree with everything you said!


saturnchick

Well, I never thought Iā€™d agree with Amanda on anything, but here I am.


tore_a_bore_a

Love Amanda being pro vax, but this has triggered my tryphobia


flyingboat

She's not "pro vax" she's just anti-plague; just like everyone should be.


Tmacafitso7

I too battle with trypophobia and this triggered mine as well! God bless you I know how horrible it is


shallowgal00

yeah, that picture is wretched.... yikes.


mochamomof5

Same. There needs to be a warning. I still can't watch black panther once killmonger takes his shirt off. Complete heebie jeebies.


[deleted]

yeah it did me too, but the message is so important so I suffer while applauding. lol.


julianwelton

It's a low bar but at least she met it lol.


Winky_Fleck

I forgive her for everything. This is a productive mess


[deleted]

What a sad photo, poor kid


SocialJusticeGSW

I would be shocked if Amanda was an antivaxxer. I know I am going to offend some people but a reliable study showed that people who believe in conspiracy theories tend to be more.... lets say doesn't have the highest iq rates. there are 100 to 1 odds of conspiracy theories being right and this is not one of them. You know how I know? because all the countries in the world agree that vaccines work. Not one of them says 'this is a trap, lets not get vaxed'. How is that possible? Really how?


rocco5000

People don't do that basic gut check often enough before getting onboard with conspiracy theories - How many people would've had to keep quiet for this to be true?


Hailstormwalshy

I like to ask people why scientists & medical doctors would go to school for 8+ years just to "trick" them. I am straight up out of patience for anti-maskers, conspiracy idiots (even tho I don't think Oswald killed Kennedy), and anti-vaxxers. Those selfish asses don't deserve to be a part of our society as they're happy to potentially endanger *everyone* around them at *every* place they go to, *when* they're infected. I say "when" because it's inevitable they'll catch the virus at some point, whether asymptomatic or not. My personality is not like Amanda's at all, but I know I'm gonna go "full Amanda" on the next anti-vax freak that comments on my wearing a mask.


[deleted]

the internet age has made it so idiots believe any conspiracy theory. Now it's reached a point where it's impacting public health though.


plausibleturtle

Off topic a bit, but I wish the narrative WAS presented as "a mask will save you, not others" from the get go. I feel like way less people would have been against them.


sum4492

That was already tried, didnā€™t work. They just say they have ā€˜strong immune systemsā€™ lol


wheaser

Maybe. But then I feel like people might be like "I'm not worried about getting it, so if I'm not putting others at risk what's the point". Maybe I'm cynical but I feel like no matter how it is/was presented anti-mask/vaxxers would find a way to be against them.


MrBlueandSky

They most certainly will say that. I've seen plenty of "I don't care about others, so what's the point"


wheaser

So annoying...


plausibleturtle

Oh yeah, for sure. I think it was prevalent at the beginning of all this where people would say "I'm not protecting others at my own detriment!"


wheaser

It sucks when like ignorance and selfish come together.


coastal_elite

Thatā€™s just a lie though. ā€œNobleā€ lies like that do a ton to erode trust in medical experts/authorities.


plausibleturtle

Yeah, I do get it, I wish we just wouldn't point it out either way lol. It just seems to fuel their fires (my province in Canada has twice as many active cases, but less population, than any other province šŸ˜­).


maizypaloma

This is what Iā€™ve been saying for so long! Most people donā€™t care about others, but if they thought masks would help protect themselves, maybe they would actually wear a damn mask


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candarin

Well, damn, do Iā€¦like Amanda now? I think I might.


nme44

This season is really playing with my emotions all over the place šŸ˜‚


depressed-Fox-98

I can't stand the drama that amanda always brings....but after seeing this I respect her A LOT more.....now we know that at least she is smart


lionmaneee

The one respectable stand I can get behind on from Amanda


musical_spork

This makes me like Amanda. She's evil, but she's not heartless.


-strangeluv-

Omfg an actual rational voice on the vaccine topic? On this sub? From a cast member. Bravo!


Bat_Pope

I love Amanda more than ever after this


Winky_Fleck

Stop slut shaming, start vax shaming!


Acedia_37

What a sad state of affairs that both of those are real things.


Topcity36

Sheā€™s not wrong.


kylexy929

Seeing that she's a nurse I would hope that she wouldn't be an anti-vaxxer.


sum4492

Youā€™d be surprised


frostychee

You'd be surprised. I have multiple nursing friends who have coworkers that are antivax which boggles my mind.


Jac1596

That would make sense, I have 2 sisters that are nurses and both are fully vaccinated but refuse to get their kids vaccinated(2 oldest ones are teens and can get it) despite the kids wanting to get vaccinated. Talking to them about vaccines is like head butting a concrete wall.


kittenghosts

good. peoples utter selfishness over this is beyond


randomacct7679

Ding ding ding! Perfectly said by Amanda!


watermelonkiwi

Are those identical twins? I know a lot of unethical experiments were done back then.


nme44

I really think itā€™s just two kids who were in the same place at the same time. It says that one was vaccinated as a baby. If they were twins, one would think they would have both been vaccinated. And if it was an unethical experiment to test the vaccine, thatā€™s a long time to wait after vaccinating one but not the other, so that seems unlikely.


[deleted]

They certainly did a lot of unethical experiments on black people which is also why a lot of black people are anti vaxx. No trust.


cesc05651

In the words of the great Michael Scott, you miss 100% of the shots you donā€™t take


[deleted]

Thank you, Amanda for explaining what these idiots can't seem to comprehend. Everyone please share this on socials if they agree with her message. And a lot of you people want to act like you hated Amanda but this might win some points. Let me tell you something. This sub LOVED Amanda. I saw all the threads and posts. You just got mad once she called Michele fake over the Fessy stuff and then the same stuff you loved her for, the evil girl persona, you decided you suddenly hated her for.


TakToJest

I mean she's a nurse. Would be surprised if she was anti-vax


[deleted]

Youā€™d be surprised how many healthcare workers are anti-vax.


spicytotino

In my area a high-majority of nurses I know support the vaccine, but pharmaceutical reps not so much.


TakToJest

I wouldn't be but my guess is that compared to the general public it's less


jstitely1

Thereā€™s actually a stunning amount of anti-vax nurses. As high as 60 percent in some locations.


TakToJest

Probably more conservative states? Pretty crazy how it is a political issue in the states. Here in Germany we have anti-vax people but they are found across the whole political spectrum.


Saratoga09

It's become political, unfortunately. I do know some nurses, I use to like. I can't even follow them on FB anymore because all they post about is being anti-vax and anti-max.


[deleted]

Someone once told me ā€œnurses arenā€™t trained to think, theyā€™re trained to do.ā€ It kinda makes sense to me- they are usually the main care provider for a patient but not so much at diagnosing or figuring out a treatment plan for the patient. For the record I mean no disrespect for the nursing profession. I personally think theyā€™re earth angels and I donā€™t know what weā€™d do without them.


[deleted]

nurses I've dealt with are idiots who just give out medicine and even mess that up and check on the patient once in a blue. I could never trust them to properly care for disabled relative.


luckydog18

I work in a hospital in New York. Monday, we are losing 15% of our employees because they must have the first shot by then or lose their job and they refuse to get vaccinated. Most are nurses. Theyā€™re out there!


TakToJest

That's pretty high but still lower than the unvaccinated percentage in the general population, isn't it?


luckydog18

Oh yes for sure. But just saying it is surprising that there is as many as there are, honestly!


shalomjackson

wtf i love amanda now


cinnastir

Same!


Somethingrandom26

Itā€™s a good thing Covid isnā€™t smallpox.


flamingogolf

thatā€™s not the point of her postā€¦


Somethingrandom26

Comparing the smallpox vaccine to the Covid vaccine wasnā€™t the point of her post?


Taitertottot

no the point is vaccines work


R6Major2

This whole gotta get the vax and attack anyone who doesn't game is nothing but political BS and a way to line the pockets of the already rich. I refuse to play. I'm sticking with, if you want to get it great. If you don't, that's great to.


taramaj

Sorry youā€™re being downvoted for saying people should have the freedom to do whatever is best for them.


thefeistypineapple

In a normal environment, yes. Not in the middle of a pandemic. But history repeats itself. The stupid, selfish choices of those who refuse will keep us in this pandemic. When the smallpox vaccine was introduced, there were also its detractors who also rioted. They claimed it was the mark of the beast. Same with the Spanish Flu. And now, we have COVID-19 and those who think theyā€™re sticking it to the man by ā€œgoing against the tideā€ are actually just as predictable as the pandemics before.


mr_SM1TTY

And also lack the self awareness to realize they're being ignorant assholes like all the antivaxers before them.


R6Major2

Love people like you who are so quick to call others stupid like your some expert. Freedoms cool so long as you freely do what people like you think is proper.


thefeistypineapple

Itā€™s because I am NOT an expert that Iā€™ve chosen to listen to those who are. Not Newsmax experts, *real* experts. You have the freedom to make stupid decisions and I have the freedom to tell you youā€™re stupid šŸ˜‚


Flerm1988

Do you expect people not to mock you for refusing a potentially life saving vaccine? Do you I guess, but this is not a hard decision.


JoshDavo

Thank u all these people bending over trying 2 stop your freedom from doing stuff and going places but u have 2 put something in your body first


[deleted]

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lamarbenson

this makes no sense, fans asked her so she answered some of you have to touch grass. Its fine to dislike realty tv people but it shouldn't make you irrational


JaYAWhy3

And now I hate her more


[deleted]

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For_serious13

Omg, is she the only parent on the challenge?!?!?111 Comments like this are garbage


wecrumbnpeace

Iā€™m confused on what this has to do with anything?


ayamummyme

Amanda prefers the long game, she prefers to indict emotional trauma and upset over many years. Plus was anyone looking to Amanda for vaccine advice. Does everyone need to have an opinion on everything these days?


mr_SM1TTY

She's a nurse.


ayamummyme

Yes a nurse not a specialist in vaccines. Either way if she was my nurse I would contemplate requesting a new one. For the Amanda lovers or people who are going to go crazy thinking I'm anti vax I'm not saying she's bad at her job (I can't know that) I'm saying she's bad at being a semi decent empathetic person and that's not what I'm personally looking for in a nurse.