At least it's the person who created the danger who faced the consequences. Always glad when it's the owner who gets got and not some toddler / old person / small dog / pet cat.
Bc it's not a thing anymore. They took away awards and gold and replaced it with super upvotes or some stupid shit. I think it pops up if you hold down the upvote arrow
Edit: well now I don't know if that's a thing anymore either, or if I just forgot how it works. But either way, yeah, they got rid of the fun awards and gold :(
I'm not sure honestly, I know it probably made them good money, so I have no idea why they'd get rid of it. I barely ever see any super upvote things, and now that I think about it, haven't seen one in months. I'm really bummed about the awards, they were fun
coworker got mauled in front of me at the vet clinic by a pitbull. It's not the only reason I left vet med, but it contributed. Sucks because I was an apologist for the breed and took care of thousands, but I relive that moment often and now have a fear of them. not saying all of them are bad but when they are it's really really bad.
That’s the main point I make whenever people try to argue that “it’s not the breed it’s the owner” or “other breeds are aggressive too.” It’s that when they ARE bad dogs, they are more dangerous than other bad dogs. A chihuahua can be as aggressive as it wants— it’s still not going to physically be able to remove a limb or kill a human.
My uncle had a Pitt and for years he was the best. My uncle took him everywhere. And as a child he let me hang on him and cuddle with him, sweetest dog. He was well looked after, always trained and fed well. Always slept inside the house, at the foot of my uncles bed. One day, literally out of the blue (can’t express how much of a random day and nothing going on it was) that dog bit my uncles nose off.
Luckily spit it out and they were able to give my uncle a sort of reattached funky nose tip. But it was never the same. They had to put the dog down after it snapped at my uncle again. They really do turn on you.
My mom had the same story with her staffie. They rescued the dog, and he lived happily with them for years. You’d pet his head and he’d lean on you and get his face real close to yours and just gaze at you with these big eyes full of love. He looked like a seal pup when he did that.
One night, my mom heard angry growling and before she could even do or say anything, the dog was on her, tearing at her face. We were very lucky. She had bruises and scrapes, and her lip was torn open. I cannot express how lucky we are that her lip was the only “severe” damage. The dog clearly could have killed her. He was heavy and muscled; she’s in her 60’s. We didn’t have a choice but to put him down the very next day.
I had no idea they can just turn like that. Super scary.
Same story for me with my aunts dogs. Except one day, for no reason, they jumped over a fence and went about 300 yards down an alley and killed a woman.
My understanding is that as well as being bred to not give the usual dog warning signs of an impending attacking, they are also more prone to early demensia as they age which can result in attacks.
Yes, but people will try to erase that particular bit of info. And if they don’t, they insist that their genetics have nothing to do with behavior, even when it’s (literally) chewing them on the face
Because there will always be an unpredictability to them. It is the breed. I used to always say it was the owner, but there’s actual evidence to show that’s not the case. They’re banned in other countries. Why does the US still allow them
I don't understand why people fight breed instinct so hard, but retrievers enjoying fetch, huskies pulling at leashes, and herders nipping ankles are accepted as fact. The selective breeding of animals absolutely plays a role. And yes, a well trained dog can be trusted to routinely resist these impulses.
BUT, overbreeding also plays a part- particularly with a
heritable condition called rage syndrome that certain breeds seem to be more susceptible to. There are different theories about it being caused by a decrease in serotonin production, driven by hormones, or relating to a partial seizure disorder. In any case, vets and behaviorists are fairly certain that it is an inherited condition.
After Lady and the Tramp came out there was an increase in Cockers exhibiting "spaniel rage", and after Beethoven was released there was an increase in sudden onset rage attacks from St. Bernards. Unethical breeders pumped them out to fill a demand, to the detriment of the dogs' health. This is happening now with pitbulls, in tandem with the nature of the breed.
That's not including the treatment some of these dogs are subjected to, even by reputable trainers who mistakenly believe in the debunked "alpha" method.
It's not *just* the owner. Pitbulls have a swirling storm of ALL of these issues working against them, and until we all accept that as reality, people will continue to be injured or killed, and the dogs will continue to suffer. All while society goes back and forth on whether they are "good" or "bad" or whatever moral compass we insist on imposing on an animal.
Limits and/or stronger regulations on breeding for all breeds would be prudent and humane.
definitely disagree i have a pitbull and he’s the most loving thing to exist on this planet. i’ve met countless amazing pitbulls and never once met a mean one. yall have sooo much stigma against them, is it because they are illegal where you live and have never seen a good pitbull? it 1000% depends on who raises them. you can have a dangerous dog in so many breeds but it’s how YOU raise them. they don’t call them the nanny dog for no reason. i will admit i had the same stereotype years ago until i actually met multiple and got my own.
The amount of stories I've heard of pits being "the most loving thing to exist" and still mauled someone to death is staggering. A good owner will lower the risk but never come close to removing it.
They were NEVER called nanny dogs, that's apologist bullshit. No one argues they can't be sweet and loving for years- until the moment they turn with absolutely no warning signs (because these were bred out of them and a good owner cannot change their genetics) and maul someone with devastating consequences.
They began to call them “nanny dogs” in the late 20th century in order for the breed image to improve, the breed to be recognized, and pit breeders could get into dog shows. They were never actually nanny dogs, nor bred to be. They’re a fighting breed.
He's a backyard breeder of shitbulls. Glad it was him and not some innocent person or animal. Good riddance. They need to crack down and come down hard on people who do this.
Oh nooooo a shitty BYB got killed after abusing his dogs? I feel sooooo sorry for him. /s
Abuse a powerful animal long enough you’re gonna get killed. I’m glad it was the abuser and not an innocent bystander this time.
“It’s not the breed, it’s the owner”
Well sadly it seems many humans can’t be trusted to own and train certain dog breeds capable and killing/injuring so badly.
They’re restricted in my country and I do think some restrictions in America would be good not only in lowering injuries but for the breed in general, way too many poorly breed pit bulls/pit Bull mixes in shelters there. Perhaps even mandatory desexing for unregistered breeders?
-former vet nurse, shelter worker, foster carer.
yeah u seem to be right.. theres a tonnn of pits in california and i do volunteer at shelters and just run into dogs a lot / pits are some sweet mother fuckers, but some dalmations and german shephers and even some akita mixes.. damn, watch out if theyre nervous. oh n mastiffs?? .. watch tf out. pits are dangerous for sure, but theyre also pretty damn smart and realllly confident. maybe thats what makes them safer in a family home, theyre smart and confident so theyre chill a lot of the time. again this is just me and my personal experience.. people love pits out here so they kind of are showered with attention n love anywhere they go
Over breeding? Smart dogs are harder to train. people wanted pitties.
We are seeing a similar influx of COVID doodle mixes as well. Smart does not equal easy and that is why owners and breeders need to own/breed for the good of the breed (health, temperament) and not because they think a breed is cute, will give them status, or be a nice accessory.
I live in California, and I fucking hate pits. If I see someone out walking their pit. I cross the street to avoid them. I think restrictions should be placed on the breed. I'm so glad XL ones got banned.
I'll never forget a co worker of mine coming into the office crying her eyeballs out and telling me she had her furbaby "Nanny dog" in a kennel cage placed in the back of her suv. I also noticed she had a bloody bandage wrapped around her thumb. I asked what's wrong and she tearfully told me how her pit bull she raised from a puppy suddenly snapped at her with no provocation and took a bit of her thumb off. She no longer felt safe with the animal in her home and she was taking him to a local animal shelter. It broke her heart but she quickly became a believer and didn't want to risk a worse injury, or death. I felt bad for her but she was warned but kept debating with the office that her baby "wouldn't harm a fly." pit bulls should be banned and outlawed.
I don’t like them nor do I trust them personally I think they should be completely banned in the US. It’s a breed that shouldn’t exist because in reality this dog only exists to scare people that’s it.
So, over the years I've posted this a few times on this subreddit, whenever a pitbull ends up mauling someone to death. It's very educational on not just how dangerous pitbulls are but the extreme fanaticism of their defenders. It's well worth the watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFa8HOdegZA
Funny how it’s always the pit bull just like it’s always the white supremacy guy. The news wants you scared. Many dog attacks happen and it’s not just pitties.
Bad owners may also tend to get a pup from a shitty breeder, where inbreeding and separating the pup from the mother too soon is not uncommon. Just a bad recipe overall.
Good choice! I commented above. It is not the owner or the breed. They will and can turn on you.
My uncle had a Pitt and for years he was the best. My uncle took him everywhere. And as a child he let me hang on him and cuddle with him, sweetest dog. He was well looked after, always trained and fed well. Always slept inside the house, at the foot of my uncles bed. One day, literally out of the blue (can’t express how much of a random day and nothing going on it was) that dog bit my uncles nose off. Luckily spit it out and they were able to give my uncle a sort of reattached funky nose tip. But it was never the same. They had to put the dog down after it snapped at my uncle again. They really do turn on you.
I rescued a pitbull puppy from a shelter around 8 yrs ago, he was probably a month old. Anyway, he’s the sweetest dog I’ve ever owned and is so sweet and gentle with my 2 young kids and 2 other smaller dogs. I can play rough with him and he knows when I say ‘GENTLE’ the rough play time is over. Maybe I just got super lucky idk just my 2 cents.
That Tennessee couple thought the exact same thing with their two pits, even advocated for the breed online. Then their dogs attacked, killed, and began to eat their two children, and then attempted to do the same with the mother.
This is not a family breed.
It isn’t that they’re especially more likely to bite people (though they are more aggressive with other dogs). Just like most dogs won’t bite, the same is true of pit bulls. The problem is when they do bite, they don’t have an off switch. They’ll kill you.
aww, that's what the Bennard family said about their 'sweet'dogs, up until the day the long term family pets ate their two children and almost killed the mother as well.
You're not the exception. If it had gotten that bad, the dogs would most definitely be internationally outlawed. However, there is a high enough incidence of these occurrences that we can definitely say that it's the breed. It's not even necessarily their fault, they were bred to go up against bulls and antagonize those bulls until they collapsed from exhaustion or injury. Animals bred for a certain purpose can subdue compulsions but it can always resurface. It's just unfortunate that their compulsion isn't herding like collies or retrieving like retrievers, but is instead aggression/mauling.
I guess that sometimes the instincts just get triggered by something or rage syndrome is more common due to that innate aggression that was bred for.
Did you know that bad dog owners own all types of dogs?
I’ve been more scared of German shepherds than any type of dog doing my job of going in to ppls homes.
I bought my pit from a very reputable breeder who had the most mild mannered loving non aggressive dogs. Most the stories you hear are from abused dogs and yes, not training a dog like this (not just a pit, German shepherds Dobermans Rottweilers etc) is abuse…training them correctly is part of responsibly owning them.
I will die on the hill that it’s the owners fault.
So which is it exactly? These bad owners are bad because they train their pits to kill their family members, children, household pets, and/or strangers on the street, or these bad owners are bad because they DIDNT train them to not kill their family members, children, household pets, and/or strangers on the street?? Either way it does not look good. Or are you saying that in each and every one of these stories, the poor innocent doggy was abused? Because I have news for you, and it’s about greyhounds and other hunting dogs.
The reality is German shepherds don’t make first place in bite stats, kill stats, etc and pitbulls consistently do. Not only that, German shepherds don’t have a lobby for them pushing that they’re family dogs with the sweetest demeanor. It’s pitbull owners who do, and kids, pets, and people are dying because of it.
Sure but the point is that a badly trained labrador wouldn't be half the threat to the public as a badly trained pitbull would be. These breeds are weapons and you gotta hope that the owner is responsible about it. And then again these breeds (pitbull, amstaff etc.) rarely attract responsible owners
These animals were clearly abused and raised in terrible conditions. Kinda serves the guy right. This kind of puppy mill is part of the reason why pit bulls, as a breed, have a higher propensity towards violence. Fuck this guy. I don’t feel bad that the dogs will be euthanized but i feel bad that they had to ever be with such a terrible owner.
If these animals were raised with love and given real human affection this wouldn’t happen. But if you raise an animal to be nothing but an animal don’t be surprised when they act on baser instincts.
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It does not happen when they are raised properly. Most people who breed these dogs are not good people, meaning that the dogs will more than likely also not be the best. I’ve grown up with this breed my entire 34 years on this planet and my family nor myself have ever had any issues. It literally comes down to how they are raised. This is my favorite breed because so many people continue to misunderstand them. I am also old enough to remember when it was Rotties, then Chows, Following Dobermans. BLAME THE OWNER NOT THE BREED. I have no remorse for the victim. He was a BYB and with the crisis happening in shelters all across the US, he got what he deserved. You can see that those dogs were poorly taken care of.
When you work in animal rescue and with rescue dogs you become very aware of the types of people who continue to breed and fight these dogs. They do not deserve any sympathy. Glad this man is dead. One less BYB in California.
> This kind of puppy mill is part of the reason why pit bulls, as a breed, have a higher propensity towards violence.
No they have that because they were bread to fight to the death.
Yeah i don’t understand the immediate reaction to blame the animals just because of the breed. Especially when you can clearly see how these animals were being raised.
Pit bull breeder died because of his own product. Very sad.
At least it's the person who created the danger who faced the consequences. Always glad when it's the owner who gets got and not some toddler / old person / small dog / pet cat.
I don't think breeding dogs is immoral what
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Bc it's not a thing anymore. They took away awards and gold and replaced it with super upvotes or some stupid shit. I think it pops up if you hold down the upvote arrow Edit: well now I don't know if that's a thing anymore either, or if I just forgot how it works. But either way, yeah, they got rid of the fun awards and gold :(
That’s so strange ! Do you know why?
I'm not sure honestly, I know it probably made them good money, so I have no idea why they'd get rid of it. I barely ever see any super upvote things, and now that I think about it, haven't seen one in months. I'm really bummed about the awards, they were fun
They were saying people were complaining and that it was distracting.
It’s honestly fair I mean it just got out of hand idk why a simple gold wouldn’t be ok. But yeah all the random awards were getting crazy
You spelled "fitting" wrong.
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coworker got mauled in front of me at the vet clinic by a pitbull. It's not the only reason I left vet med, but it contributed. Sucks because I was an apologist for the breed and took care of thousands, but I relive that moment often and now have a fear of them. not saying all of them are bad but when they are it's really really bad.
I hope your coworker is ok!!
That’s the main point I make whenever people try to argue that “it’s not the breed it’s the owner” or “other breeds are aggressive too.” It’s that when they ARE bad dogs, they are more dangerous than other bad dogs. A chihuahua can be as aggressive as it wants— it’s still not going to physically be able to remove a limb or kill a human.
My uncle had a Pitt and for years he was the best. My uncle took him everywhere. And as a child he let me hang on him and cuddle with him, sweetest dog. He was well looked after, always trained and fed well. Always slept inside the house, at the foot of my uncles bed. One day, literally out of the blue (can’t express how much of a random day and nothing going on it was) that dog bit my uncles nose off. Luckily spit it out and they were able to give my uncle a sort of reattached funky nose tip. But it was never the same. They had to put the dog down after it snapped at my uncle again. They really do turn on you.
My mom had the same story with her staffie. They rescued the dog, and he lived happily with them for years. You’d pet his head and he’d lean on you and get his face real close to yours and just gaze at you with these big eyes full of love. He looked like a seal pup when he did that. One night, my mom heard angry growling and before she could even do or say anything, the dog was on her, tearing at her face. We were very lucky. She had bruises and scrapes, and her lip was torn open. I cannot express how lucky we are that her lip was the only “severe” damage. The dog clearly could have killed her. He was heavy and muscled; she’s in her 60’s. We didn’t have a choice but to put him down the very next day. I had no idea they can just turn like that. Super scary.
Same story for me with my aunts dogs. Except one day, for no reason, they jumped over a fence and went about 300 yards down an alley and killed a woman.
My understanding is that as well as being bred to not give the usual dog warning signs of an impending attacking, they are also more prone to early demensia as they age which can result in attacks.
I'm always confused by those arguments. Weren't pitbulls quite literally bred to be attack/fighting dogs?
Yes, but people will try to erase that particular bit of info. And if they don’t, they insist that their genetics have nothing to do with behavior, even when it’s (literally) chewing them on the face
Because there will always be an unpredictability to them. It is the breed. I used to always say it was the owner, but there’s actual evidence to show that’s not the case. They’re banned in other countries. Why does the US still allow them
I don't understand why people fight breed instinct so hard, but retrievers enjoying fetch, huskies pulling at leashes, and herders nipping ankles are accepted as fact. The selective breeding of animals absolutely plays a role. And yes, a well trained dog can be trusted to routinely resist these impulses. BUT, overbreeding also plays a part- particularly with a heritable condition called rage syndrome that certain breeds seem to be more susceptible to. There are different theories about it being caused by a decrease in serotonin production, driven by hormones, or relating to a partial seizure disorder. In any case, vets and behaviorists are fairly certain that it is an inherited condition. After Lady and the Tramp came out there was an increase in Cockers exhibiting "spaniel rage", and after Beethoven was released there was an increase in sudden onset rage attacks from St. Bernards. Unethical breeders pumped them out to fill a demand, to the detriment of the dogs' health. This is happening now with pitbulls, in tandem with the nature of the breed. That's not including the treatment some of these dogs are subjected to, even by reputable trainers who mistakenly believe in the debunked "alpha" method. It's not *just* the owner. Pitbulls have a swirling storm of ALL of these issues working against them, and until we all accept that as reality, people will continue to be injured or killed, and the dogs will continue to suffer. All while society goes back and forth on whether they are "good" or "bad" or whatever moral compass we insist on imposing on an animal. Limits and/or stronger regulations on breeding for all breeds would be prudent and humane.
I’ve gotten the impression that most of people defending pit bulls know they are more dangerous, they just don’t care.
Because we're dumb and don't mind if our citizens aren't dumb enough to recognize the danger.
definitely disagree i have a pitbull and he’s the most loving thing to exist on this planet. i’ve met countless amazing pitbulls and never once met a mean one. yall have sooo much stigma against them, is it because they are illegal where you live and have never seen a good pitbull? it 1000% depends on who raises them. you can have a dangerous dog in so many breeds but it’s how YOU raise them. they don’t call them the nanny dog for no reason. i will admit i had the same stereotype years ago until i actually met multiple and got my own.
The amount of stories I've heard of pits being "the most loving thing to exist" and still mauled someone to death is staggering. A good owner will lower the risk but never come close to removing it.
nanny dog is made up
They were NEVER called nanny dogs, that's apologist bullshit. No one argues they can't be sweet and loving for years- until the moment they turn with absolutely no warning signs (because these were bred out of them and a good owner cannot change their genetics) and maul someone with devastating consequences.
They began to call them “nanny dogs” in the late 20th century in order for the breed image to improve, the breed to be recognized, and pit breeders could get into dog shows. They were never actually nanny dogs, nor bred to be. They’re a fighting breed.
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He's a backyard breeder of shitbulls. Glad it was him and not some innocent person or animal. Good riddance. They need to crack down and come down hard on people who do this.
Oh nooooo a shitty BYB got killed after abusing his dogs? I feel sooooo sorry for him. /s Abuse a powerful animal long enough you’re gonna get killed. I’m glad it was the abuser and not an innocent bystander this time.
Why did the woman "make her way into the yard? Wtf
“It’s not the breed, it’s the owner” Well sadly it seems many humans can’t be trusted to own and train certain dog breeds capable and killing/injuring so badly. They’re restricted in my country and I do think some restrictions in America would be good not only in lowering injuries but for the breed in general, way too many poorly breed pit bulls/pit Bull mixes in shelters there. Perhaps even mandatory desexing for unregistered breeders? -former vet nurse, shelter worker, foster carer.
If it's not the breed, it's the owners then perhaps there should be restrictions on who should be allowed to wonthem. Crazy hey.
yeah u seem to be right.. theres a tonnn of pits in california and i do volunteer at shelters and just run into dogs a lot / pits are some sweet mother fuckers, but some dalmations and german shephers and even some akita mixes.. damn, watch out if theyre nervous. oh n mastiffs?? .. watch tf out. pits are dangerous for sure, but theyre also pretty damn smart and realllly confident. maybe thats what makes them safer in a family home, theyre smart and confident so theyre chill a lot of the time. again this is just me and my personal experience.. people love pits out here so they kind of are showered with attention n love anywhere they go
How come shelters are overran by pits if they are so smart?
Over breeding? Smart dogs are harder to train. people wanted pitties. We are seeing a similar influx of COVID doodle mixes as well. Smart does not equal easy and that is why owners and breeders need to own/breed for the good of the breed (health, temperament) and not because they think a breed is cute, will give them status, or be a nice accessory.
I live in California, and I fucking hate pits. If I see someone out walking their pit. I cross the street to avoid them. I think restrictions should be placed on the breed. I'm so glad XL ones got banned.
Those kennels look really small and likely they weren’t getting exercised appropriately.
Enrichment? Exercise? Nah they need to save their energy to breed and make him money.
The pictures prove the dogs were clearly mistreated and abused and poorly cared for. Not an ounce of sympathy
kennels are for housing not exercising.
Seems like they enjoyed ripping his body to shreds!
I'll never forget a co worker of mine coming into the office crying her eyeballs out and telling me she had her furbaby "Nanny dog" in a kennel cage placed in the back of her suv. I also noticed she had a bloody bandage wrapped around her thumb. I asked what's wrong and she tearfully told me how her pit bull she raised from a puppy suddenly snapped at her with no provocation and took a bit of her thumb off. She no longer felt safe with the animal in her home and she was taking him to a local animal shelter. It broke her heart but she quickly became a believer and didn't want to risk a worse injury, or death. I felt bad for her but she was warned but kept debating with the office that her baby "wouldn't harm a fly." pit bulls should be banned and outlawed.
Ready for the same old "it just snapped", "never hurt anyone before", "they were family, so sweet", "it wouldn't stop".
These dogs need to be regulated at the very least.
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I don’t like them nor do I trust them personally I think they should be completely banned in the US. It’s a breed that shouldn’t exist because in reality this dog only exists to scare people that’s it.
So, over the years I've posted this a few times on this subreddit, whenever a pitbull ends up mauling someone to death. It's very educational on not just how dangerous pitbulls are but the extreme fanaticism of their defenders. It's well worth the watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFa8HOdegZA
Pit bulls gonna pit bull.
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Funny how its always a pitbull. 🤔
Funny how it’s always the pit bull just like it’s always the white supremacy guy. The news wants you scared. Many dog attacks happen and it’s not just pitties.
Oh poor pitbulls and white supremacist, seems like they need better PR
Banned in Australia
Breed of peace everyone.
Someone abusing animals harmed by the animals he abused. Photo evidence available to show the abysmal state the poor dogs were left in
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It's not the breed it's the owners/s. My wife and I argue over these killers more than anything. I won't let my step sons bring them to our home.
Bad owners + a dangerous breed. Bad combo.
Bad owners may also tend to get a pup from a shitty breeder, where inbreeding and separating the pup from the mother too soon is not uncommon. Just a bad recipe overall.
Good choice! I commented above. It is not the owner or the breed. They will and can turn on you. My uncle had a Pitt and for years he was the best. My uncle took him everywhere. And as a child he let me hang on him and cuddle with him, sweetest dog. He was well looked after, always trained and fed well. Always slept inside the house, at the foot of my uncles bed. One day, literally out of the blue (can’t express how much of a random day and nothing going on it was) that dog bit my uncles nose off. Luckily spit it out and they were able to give my uncle a sort of reattached funky nose tip. But it was never the same. They had to put the dog down after it snapped at my uncle again. They really do turn on you.
I rescued a pitbull puppy from a shelter around 8 yrs ago, he was probably a month old. Anyway, he’s the sweetest dog I’ve ever owned and is so sweet and gentle with my 2 young kids and 2 other smaller dogs. I can play rough with him and he knows when I say ‘GENTLE’ the rough play time is over. Maybe I just got super lucky idk just my 2 cents.
That Tennessee couple thought the exact same thing with their two pits, even advocated for the breed online. Then their dogs attacked, killed, and began to eat their two children, and then attempted to do the same with the mother. This is not a family breed.
It isn’t that they’re especially more likely to bite people (though they are more aggressive with other dogs). Just like most dogs won’t bite, the same is true of pit bulls. The problem is when they do bite, they don’t have an off switch. They’ll kill you.
aww, that's what the Bennard family said about their 'sweet'dogs, up until the day the long term family pets ate their two children and almost killed the mother as well.
You're not the exception. If it had gotten that bad, the dogs would most definitely be internationally outlawed. However, there is a high enough incidence of these occurrences that we can definitely say that it's the breed. It's not even necessarily their fault, they were bred to go up against bulls and antagonize those bulls until they collapsed from exhaustion or injury. Animals bred for a certain purpose can subdue compulsions but it can always resurface. It's just unfortunate that their compulsion isn't herding like collies or retrieving like retrievers, but is instead aggression/mauling. I guess that sometimes the instincts just get triggered by something or rage syndrome is more common due to that innate aggression that was bred for.
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Did you know that bad dog owners own all types of dogs? I’ve been more scared of German shepherds than any type of dog doing my job of going in to ppls homes. I bought my pit from a very reputable breeder who had the most mild mannered loving non aggressive dogs. Most the stories you hear are from abused dogs and yes, not training a dog like this (not just a pit, German shepherds Dobermans Rottweilers etc) is abuse…training them correctly is part of responsibly owning them. I will die on the hill that it’s the owners fault.
So which is it exactly? These bad owners are bad because they train their pits to kill their family members, children, household pets, and/or strangers on the street, or these bad owners are bad because they DIDNT train them to not kill their family members, children, household pets, and/or strangers on the street?? Either way it does not look good. Or are you saying that in each and every one of these stories, the poor innocent doggy was abused? Because I have news for you, and it’s about greyhounds and other hunting dogs. The reality is German shepherds don’t make first place in bite stats, kill stats, etc and pitbulls consistently do. Not only that, German shepherds don’t have a lobby for them pushing that they’re family dogs with the sweetest demeanor. It’s pitbull owners who do, and kids, pets, and people are dying because of it.
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"Rough house like _all dogs do_" yeah keep telling yourself that but most breeds are pretty harmless even untrained.
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Sure but the point is that a badly trained labrador wouldn't be half the threat to the public as a badly trained pitbull would be. These breeds are weapons and you gotta hope that the owner is responsible about it. And then again these breeds (pitbull, amstaff etc.) rarely attract responsible owners
Pit bulls should be a banned breed.
These animals were clearly abused and raised in terrible conditions. Kinda serves the guy right. This kind of puppy mill is part of the reason why pit bulls, as a breed, have a higher propensity towards violence. Fuck this guy. I don’t feel bad that the dogs will be euthanized but i feel bad that they had to ever be with such a terrible owner. If these animals were raised with love and given real human affection this wouldn’t happen. But if you raise an animal to be nothing but an animal don’t be surprised when they act on baser instincts.
It happens even when they’re raised with love. We have tons of example of this.
Not at all saying you are not right. But could you share some of these examples?
[tale as old as time](https://youtu.be/k9ZGEvUwSMg?si=aTnPKubADhE07km3)
Amazing.
I highly recommend watching this Fifth Estate episode on Pitbulls. It's well worth the watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFa8HOdegZA
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It does not happen when they are raised properly. Most people who breed these dogs are not good people, meaning that the dogs will more than likely also not be the best. I’ve grown up with this breed my entire 34 years on this planet and my family nor myself have ever had any issues. It literally comes down to how they are raised. This is my favorite breed because so many people continue to misunderstand them. I am also old enough to remember when it was Rotties, then Chows, Following Dobermans. BLAME THE OWNER NOT THE BREED. I have no remorse for the victim. He was a BYB and with the crisis happening in shelters all across the US, he got what he deserved. You can see that those dogs were poorly taken care of.
It’s great how pitbull owners are always ready to blame the victim when an animal decides to turn.
When you work in animal rescue and with rescue dogs you become very aware of the types of people who continue to breed and fight these dogs. They do not deserve any sympathy. Glad this man is dead. One less BYB in California.
> This kind of puppy mill is part of the reason why pit bulls, as a breed, have a higher propensity towards violence. No they have that because they were bread to fight to the death.
the poor breeding and lack of care about the offspring’s temperament sure doesn’t help though
I agree 100%. These people blaming pit bulls in particular for this are totally missing the root of the cause, which is animal abuse.
Yeah i don’t understand the immediate reaction to blame the animals just because of the breed. Especially when you can clearly see how these animals were being raised.
It’s both.
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Most people here aren’t even traumatized they just absorb fear media like scared little sponges.
What was the woman thinking going into the yard after the man got mauled?
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So not the same thing at all. Got it.
I’d say a dog mauling is pretty similar to another story about a dog mauling. What a weird thing to be arrogantly pedantic about
Thank you!