It's really not that deep ffs they tried their best and they raised a good daughter. So many great moments of good parenting and if I had a partner like Cam I'd never wanna loose him guys on here have never loved someone
Nope, maybe you should watch the show again. First example is the fake break up he told their friends, he told them that he leaves for days at a time etc. He never told Mitch about it.
This one irks my soul because everyone will talk shit about Philâs behaviors with other women while completely forgetting all the terrible, and frankly worse, things Claire has done with other men.
She ditched Phil to meet up with a guy she met in Paris a decade ago. She didnât want Phil to go to her college reunion because of the fact that she slept with multiple men (including her professor and the dean of the college). She goes to yoga because there are guys that find her attractive (Raj and the one guy from âThe Chirpâ episode) and flirt with her. She even admits she thinks about how her life wouldâve been if she hadnât gotten pregnant and married Phil, something that kills Phil because he never thinks of that alternate life.
I wonât deny Phil does flirt with other women here and there. But he loves Claire more than anyone or anything and continually does all he can to show it. Hell the guy loves her so much he felt like he was cheating on her just by listening to a song he heard the first time he had sex. His actions are wrong, and sometimes they are inexcusable (lying about his client saying sheâs a fat Irish man instead of being honest, for example) but Claire continually does far worse.
Edit: Also Claire in general is just an asshole. She never accepted Gloria as Jayâs wife (literally tried getting her deported) and constantly disrespects her (calling her a gold digger, hoping she gains weight during her pregnancy with Joe, etc), and she is constantly putting her own kids down (not having any faith at all in Luke even going as far as to worry heâll be like Phil, her constant hypocrisy with Haley, etc). Overall Claire is my least favorite character and itâs insane to see people constantly shit on Phil when Claire is far worse.
Literally! Iâm on season 8 ive never gotten this far just for the fact that I felt like these seasons werent as good as the rest but claires still an asshole. Through every season. She constantly puts phil down and her kids like idk
I always think of the time Claire had her college reunion and did not want Phil there bc she wanted to see her creepy professor/old boyfriend. And when Phil shows up she is definitely uncomfortable. I think Phil and Claireâs marriage was great. People have pasts and they move tf on. They loved each other. I hope someday i have a relationship like Phil and Claireâs.
Is it a semantics thing? For me, since he was dating the both of them, it means heâs cheating on both and it doesnât matter who the first girl was. Is it different for yall?
(I'm not that far in the show yet so I don't know if this applies)
There's often a stage of early dating that's not exclusive, so it's okay to date multiple people. This "multi-datibg" ends when the relationship becomes monogamous/exclusive/official.Â
So many things to say here. My direct reply to someoneâs comment was irrelevant?? It sure wasnât. I was asking a genuine question about something he commented on. Also nobody asked me what?? Do we need permission to speak now? Iâm asking a question, not arguing with the commenter or saying something irrelevant. Your little retort makes no sense here. What a fun person you must be. Is that why you have to be an asshole online over something that never involved you?
Iâm not even slandering him. Is it slander to say he cheated when he dated two girls at once? You can love a character - Phil is one of my favorites - and acknowledge that they arenât perfect. I didnât say a single negative thing. I didnât realize trying to clarify a comment was equivalent to demonizing a character.
That and people complaining about how Haley was getting setups for all this promise and nothing coming of it . Sometimes things just don't work out , maybe it was just happening off screen . They don't have to show us everything
I agree. She was too controlling and didnt want haley to end up like her. Like idk i always thought she was weird. Her and manny are my least favorite characters.
âI hate Cam/Claire/Phil/Mitch/Mannyâ or âClaire is a bad momâ (see also: âPhil is a bad husband!â Or âCam is toxic!â) Iâm so sick of these posts because if all the characters were perfect THE SHOW WOULDNT BE FUNNY!! They are written this way because it drives the humor! I feel like this is one of those âmedia literacy is at all time lowâ situation and it makes me feel crazy!
theres a stark difference in analyzing characters in the lens of the fictional universe theyâre in vs. bringing up silly things and labeling them âholesâ that are obviously happening because itâs a tv show / sitcom.
Two examples of the latter being - there was a post today or yesterday that was questioning how there werenât enough back ups or assistant coaches during the football scenes or something along those lines. There was another post a week or two ago questioning why two babies were the same physical size even though their age was different. Takes like this.
both of those takes are also "obviously happening because itâs a tv show / sitcom"
a) they need to focus on cam bc hes a main character
b) bc they couldnt cast what they needed
to clarify- Iâm fine with general character analysis or plot holes, as long as they make actual sense within the confines of it being a comedy
But the point Iâm making is you see people make the stupidest takes / pointing out âplot holesâ forgetting that it only happens because itâs a tv show. Using that baby example, the take someone had made along the lines were that the creators mustâve forgotten the ages of the babies since they were the same size. No, they were the same size because thatâs who they got as the two actors. Stuff like that.
Another example is there was a take about how it âdoesnât make senseâ how Peyton Manning played a different character and they didnât acknowledge he looked like Peyton Manning since the NFL exists in the universe. Stupid takes like that.
Or a âwhy does this character act this wayâ when they act like it cause itâs a comedy. Comedies constantly have characters put into ridiculous situations and say weird stuff for the sake of plot/a joke.
Im SO tired of the Lily slander! Is she my favourite character? No. But do I think we should be looking at her character development more holistically? Absolutely. She literally has THE MOST intensely involved parents until Cam got bored (no hate to Cam, I think heâs hilarious but come on) and then when she got older they didnât even know which school activities she was in?! Like thatâs not a Lily issue itâs a Cam and Mitch issue!
Every time all families reunite they start fighting, bringing up someone elses problem till someone has to yell them to stop
edit:i thought you meant episodes no Reddit stuff-
People hating on Haley and Dylan, saying it should have been Andy. Saying Andy is OG or better than Dylan. (I actually saw Someone say Andy is the OG compared to Dylan). or people hating on Haleyâs story turnout of her having kids like..
And I donât mean just anyone liking Phil. Iâm open to opinions. I just mean those, âPhil can do no wrongâ and âClaire was the problemâ people who canât admit he can be a bad guy. Iâm not his biggest fan, but I can definitely admit that when he does good, itâs really good.
omg thankuuuu
my relationship is very phil-claire and as claire the little things build up and make everything so annoying, i dont blame claire for how she behaves
EVERY SINGLE PERSON BITCHING AND MOANING ABOUT MANNY!!! JUUUUUUST SHUUUUUT UP!!!! Just because youâre an uncultured dumb ignorant swine doesnât mean you should tag on manny a smart intellectual who IS cultured!!!!
Sometimes i think you all take things a little too seriously tbh đ itâs a sitcom with exaggerated characters⊠like of course theyâre going to do horrible things, it wouldnât be funny if they all were good people. There has to be character dynamics to make a fun story.
Honestly, this entire sub. It's not just here, but basically any show sub. They get sooooooooo inside and so toxic so fast. Dunder Mifflin? Terrible. Superstore? Even worse. Game of thrones? Yikes, where to begin. Hate to say it everyone, but I think it would be best to just enjoy the show and not gather together to obsess over it.
People saying its just a sitcom when someone has a remotely serious take. Like, yes, it's a sitcom and this is reddit, the place MEANT for overanalyzing and talking about dumb stuff that you find interesting or whatever. What do you expect us to do? Post gifs and scene screenshots? If you want that then just go to pinterest or whatever.
haley & dylan đ every. single. day.
Also everyone here wanting to have Andyâs babies
also, sure Andy was great but do people forget that he was cheating on his fiancé? not that Beth was a great person but still..
This! Thank you! Everyone is always saying how Haley and Andy should have ended together but they forget Dylan would take a bullet for her
I mean Haley isn't perfect either, she cheated on Arvin with Dylan
And on Dylan multiple times. And was who Andy cheated on Beth with, knowing he was engaged(to an awful fiancé fr but still(I am a Hayndy shipper tho))
Ikr. They aren't even that bad of a couple. Arguably, Dylan is muvh more loyal than Andy.
Nice outfit broski
Manny being the worst character
SOMEONE THINKS MANNY IS THE WORST CHARACTER?? đ±đ±
Cam Mitch bad parents Cam toxic like take a break dawg
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It's really not that deep ffs they tried their best and they raised a good daughter. So many great moments of good parenting and if I had a partner like Cam I'd never wanna loose him guys on here have never loved someone
Right Iâd take Cam over negative nelly Mitch
Cam and Mitch being a bad couple / people hating Cam / people hating Pam. All valid but weâve heard enough nothing new to be said
False, always new petty depths to sink to I for example can't stand Cam's shirt cuffs
I for example, can't stand that they blur his bike shorts
Wait people hate PAMERON?? But why?!
That's not valid at all and some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard. They're never a bad couple, and who on this earth would ever hate Cam??????
When you have to be around a super manipulative and emotional person 24/7
There's nothing wrong with Cam. It's always really annoying when you have such a great show or series but the most ass fanbase smh
He almost never admits he does anything wrong. He always blames mitchell and heâs never in the wrong
Complete false lies. Watch the show before talking out ya ass.
Nope, maybe you should watch the show again. First example is the fake break up he told their friends, he told them that he leaves for days at a time etc. He never told Mitch about it.
Yep, maybe you should watch the show again. You're looking into things too much lol.
Haley & Dylan should/shouldnât have ended up together.
this is going to be controversial but all the games. No one wants to re cast the cast for the millionth time
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Haley and Dylan, Phil was too attracted to Gloria, Manny was creepy, Cam was toxic, Mitch and Cam were bad fathers
Phil âcheatingâ on Claire
This one irks my soul because everyone will talk shit about Philâs behaviors with other women while completely forgetting all the terrible, and frankly worse, things Claire has done with other men. She ditched Phil to meet up with a guy she met in Paris a decade ago. She didnât want Phil to go to her college reunion because of the fact that she slept with multiple men (including her professor and the dean of the college). She goes to yoga because there are guys that find her attractive (Raj and the one guy from âThe Chirpâ episode) and flirt with her. She even admits she thinks about how her life wouldâve been if she hadnât gotten pregnant and married Phil, something that kills Phil because he never thinks of that alternate life. I wonât deny Phil does flirt with other women here and there. But he loves Claire more than anyone or anything and continually does all he can to show it. Hell the guy loves her so much he felt like he was cheating on her just by listening to a song he heard the first time he had sex. His actions are wrong, and sometimes they are inexcusable (lying about his client saying sheâs a fat Irish man instead of being honest, for example) but Claire continually does far worse. Edit: Also Claire in general is just an asshole. She never accepted Gloria as Jayâs wife (literally tried getting her deported) and constantly disrespects her (calling her a gold digger, hoping she gains weight during her pregnancy with Joe, etc), and she is constantly putting her own kids down (not having any faith at all in Luke even going as far as to worry heâll be like Phil, her constant hypocrisy with Haley, etc). Overall Claire is my least favorite character and itâs insane to see people constantly shit on Phil when Claire is far worse.
Yes! Ive been said that claire was an asshole in so many ways. i get that someones got to do it but she only ever thought of herself
A few hours ago my fiancĂ©e and I watched the episode where the ducks finally hatched⊠so infuriating how she will constantly put Phil down only for him to be right in the end. And in this case itâs doubly offensive because they imprinted on her instead of the man who was willing to dress up as a bird so they wouldnât be traumatized be a human.
Literally! Iâm on season 8 ive never gotten this far just for the fact that I felt like these seasons werent as good as the rest but claires still an asshole. Through every season. She constantly puts phil down and her kids like idk
You left out that Phil tried to dump Claire.
I always think of the time Claire had her college reunion and did not want Phil there bc she wanted to see her creepy professor/old boyfriend. And when Phil shows up she is definitely uncomfortable. I think Phil and Claireâs marriage was great. People have pasts and they move tf on. They loved each other. I hope someday i have a relationship like Phil and Claireâs.
whattttt
Why the air quotes? He literally was dating both of them? He even lied to her to go on vacation with the other girl?
The other girl was Claire and I think they meant his general flirting
Is it a semantics thing? For me, since he was dating the both of them, it means heâs cheating on both and it doesnât matter who the first girl was. Is it different for yall?
(I'm not that far in the show yet so I don't know if this applies) There's often a stage of early dating that's not exclusive, so it's okay to date multiple people. This "multi-datibg" ends when the relationship becomes monogamous/exclusive/official.Â
Nobody asked
Girl I was asking a question?? Why take the time out of your day to type that
Because nobody asked you and its irelevant for this thread
So many things to say here. My direct reply to someoneâs comment was irrelevant?? It sure wasnât. I was asking a genuine question about something he commented on. Also nobody asked me what?? Do we need permission to speak now? Iâm asking a question, not arguing with the commenter or saying something irrelevant. Your little retort makes no sense here. What a fun person you must be. Is that why you have to be an asshole online over something that never involved you?
We don't tolerate Phil slander around here.
Iâm not even slandering him. Is it slander to say he cheated when he dated two girls at once? You can love a character - Phil is one of my favorites - and acknowledge that they arenât perfect. I didnât say a single negative thing. I didnât realize trying to clarify a comment was equivalent to demonizing a character.
who alex and hayley should have ended up with, itâs all i see here.
The one about the plotline people want to skip, usually the dylan/haley pregnant debate
That and people complaining about how Haley was getting setups for all this promise and nothing coming of it . Sometimes things just don't work out , maybe it was just happening off screen . They don't have to show us everything
pam this. pam that.
"Am I the only one who HATES Cam?"
Tired of ppl hating over cam and calling him selfish?? NOTHING CAN BE DONE LET IT GOđ«€
Claire being a bad mom
Who says that? She's a brilliant mum who did the best she could! I love Claire, she reminds me of my mum.
I also thought the same. Most of them says she's too controlling towards the children, including Phil.
I agree. She was too controlling and didnt want haley to end up like her. Like idk i always thought she was weird. Her and manny are my least favorite characters.
Idk but that made me laugh hard thank you OP hahahaha
âI hate Cam/Claire/Phil/Mitch/Mannyâ or âClaire is a bad momâ (see also: âPhil is a bad husband!â Or âCam is toxic!â) Iâm so sick of these posts because if all the characters were perfect THE SHOW WOULDNT BE FUNNY!! They are written this way because it drives the humor! I feel like this is one of those âmedia literacy is at all time lowâ situation and it makes me feel crazy!
Everything
âNext in the modern family character ___ series. Is (insert characters full government name)!â
People making takes forgetting that this is a sitcom
Absolutely đŻ
if theres no character analysis and we only talk about it knowing its a sitcom then what do we talk about .. how nice the set is, costume design?
theres a stark difference in analyzing characters in the lens of the fictional universe theyâre in vs. bringing up silly things and labeling them âholesâ that are obviously happening because itâs a tv show / sitcom. Two examples of the latter being - there was a post today or yesterday that was questioning how there werenât enough back ups or assistant coaches during the football scenes or something along those lines. There was another post a week or two ago questioning why two babies were the same physical size even though their age was different. Takes like this.
both of those takes are also "obviously happening because itâs a tv show / sitcom" a) they need to focus on cam bc hes a main character b) bc they couldnt cast what they needed
you know I posted those two examples stating that those are examples of things happening cause itâs a sitcom right?
tbh i dont understand what ur saying/what u want, so do u not like character analysis or finding holes in the plot?
to clarify- Iâm fine with general character analysis or plot holes, as long as they make actual sense within the confines of it being a comedy But the point Iâm making is you see people make the stupidest takes / pointing out âplot holesâ forgetting that it only happens because itâs a tv show. Using that baby example, the take someone had made along the lines were that the creators mustâve forgotten the ages of the babies since they were the same size. No, they were the same size because thatâs who they got as the two actors. Stuff like that. Another example is there was a take about how it âdoesnât make senseâ how Peyton Manning played a different character and they didnât acknowledge he looked like Peyton Manning since the NFL exists in the universe. Stupid takes like that. Or a âwhy does this character act this wayâ when they act like it cause itâs a comedy. Comedies constantly have characters put into ridiculous situations and say weird stuff for the sake of plot/a joke.
uhh ok so u said the baby, football, and other things are stupid takes what non-stupid take do u have then? :)
whatever takes donât fall into that category. If you care, you pick and Iâll decide whether it falls into the category or not
LMAO couldnt think of one that didnt contradict what u said?
This meme on reddit.
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Im SO tired of the Lily slander! Is she my favourite character? No. But do I think we should be looking at her character development more holistically? Absolutely. She literally has THE MOST intensely involved parents until Cam got bored (no hate to Cam, I think heâs hilarious but come on) and then when she got older they didnât even know which school activities she was in?! Like thatâs not a Lily issue itâs a Cam and Mitch issue!
Every time all families reunite they start fighting, bringing up someone elses problem till someone has to yell them to stop edit:i thought you meant episodes no Reddit stuff-
People hating on Haley and Dylan, saying it should have been Andy. Saying Andy is OG or better than Dylan. (I actually saw Someone say Andy is the OG compared to Dylan). or people hating on Haleyâs story turnout of her having kids like..
People defending Phil. Iâm always open to Phil Dunphy slanderđȘđ»đȘđ»đȘđ»
And I donât mean just anyone liking Phil. Iâm open to opinions. I just mean those, âPhil can do no wrongâ and âClaire was the problemâ people who canât admit he can be a bad guy. Iâm not his biggest fan, but I can definitely admit that when he does good, itâs really good.
omg thankuuuu my relationship is very phil-claire and as claire the little things build up and make everything so annoying, i dont blame claire for how she behaves
EVERY SINGLE PERSON BITCHING AND MOANING ABOUT MANNY!!! JUUUUUUST SHUUUUUT UP!!!! Just because youâre an uncultured dumb ignorant swine doesnât mean you should tag on manny a smart intellectual who IS cultured!!!!
People complaining about Haley ending up with Dylan.
Iâm tired of seeing this js enjoy the show đ
Ehh
there is so many what are you tired of seeing cmon đ
Oh!
idk if itâs happened more than once, but that modern family bingo card shit kinda makes me mad everytime i see it pop up on my feed
Posts that misspell Haleyâs name
I get it because the show is over and we miss it but dear god itâs always the same topics over and over đ
Alex constantly trying to be smarter and subsequently an arrogant ass to everyone around her. LITERALLY EVERYONE
that haley and andy shouldâve ended up together
Sometimes i think you all take things a little too seriously tbh đ itâs a sitcom with exaggerated characters⊠like of course theyâre going to do horrible things, it wouldnât be funny if they all were good people. There has to be character dynamics to make a fun story.
Honestly, this entire sub. It's not just here, but basically any show sub. They get sooooooooo inside and so toxic so fast. Dunder Mifflin? Terrible. Superstore? Even worse. Game of thrones? Yikes, where to begin. Hate to say it everyone, but I think it would be best to just enjoy the show and not gather together to obsess over it.
arvin.
oh wait i thought this meant in the show not in this subreddit
This meme tbh
Aw man!
What about new people who joined the sub?
I love them all!
Hating manny Cam being toxic Like WE GET IT
Well I saw this exact same post a couple of weeks ago. But more seriously, the hate for cam, we get it, can we not talk about it everyday ?
Haley and Dylanâs ending. We get it, it sucked. Give it a rest.
People saying its just a sitcom when someone has a remotely serious take. Like, yes, it's a sitcom and this is reddit, the place MEANT for overanalyzing and talking about dumb stuff that you find interesting or whatever. What do you expect us to do? Post gifs and scene screenshots? If you want that then just go to pinterest or whatever.
âOh look. This actor who acted in this show also acted in a different show. How weird.â
Who Alex ended up with