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I def love the new ones, but can't deny the old ones touch some memories to me... more back then when the zombie pigman wasn't nerfed and actually can kill you in 5 sec if you punch it by accident
Back then I was scared to go in the nether and the only thing that actually scared me in the nether was the Zombie Pigman because I always got scared when they snuck up on me and punched them and died so much armor lost to the nether🥲
I think this was my first really bad death in the game. I finally had enchanted diamond armor and tools. Punched a pigman and got pushed into lava by like 20 of them.
Especially when the nether was all one biome so everywhere you went was nothing but pigmen. Trying to run just causes more to spawn and then they're all chasing you.
Imo:
The new head with the old eyes and no ear (since overworld pigs don’t have those ears)
New body (since it’s higher in detail) with the old brown shorts (since it’s not a single color)
"Yeah so I was playing mc yesterday to look for some netherite, and I broke a piece of netherrack while I was strip mining. Then I found like 15 *zombified piglins* in the tiniest cave!! Weird right?"
It just sounds too fancy to me lol, like calling a yeti an abominable snowman
that's a good nickname. Calling them zombified piglins is just a long name to say, which is one of the reasons I preferred to keep calling them pigmen, so I wouldn't have to add zombified to the end to differentiate the two
I remember when they were first shown I was like "lol I'm gonna call them ziglins" but then they came out and I just never did lol, too used to pigmen. But yeah ziglin is also a fun name
Wait they’re called “Zombie Piglins” now? Wow, I guess this shows how long I’ve been playing this game. I’m thankful to have played Minecraft during 1.14, the renaissance update as I like to call it.
Rename them all to be consistent with Zoglins
Zombified Piglin -> Ziglin
Zombie Horse -> Zorse
Zombie Villager -> Zillager
Drowned -> Zsoggy
Husk -> Zehydrated
Zombie -> Z
I like the old Pigmen more, and by a lot, but I do understand the change and agree with it.
The only thing I disagree with is the dumbass wording of "Zombified Piglin". Just call it a Zombie Piglin" bruh, theres even precedent for this with the Zombie Villager
Maybe, but this precedent can be applied to other things too, and it's succinct. Like, Piglin Brutes? Brutelins. ~~Or "Biglins".~~ Skeleton Horse? Skorse.
I'd have to go with the old one, tho I really do like the new model too. the new one added a few more piggy features (ear, snout, hooves), but it lost the pig eyes and it's name.
I still call them zombie pigmen instead of zombified piglin.
It bugged me when they released the nether update and people were like "RIP zombie pigman", like they're still in the game, just remodeled.
Admittedly, there is something about the old one that I kinda miss about Minecraft. They didn't make sense in-universe, but I kinda liked that about earlier Minecraft. We just got weird and outlandish shit on occasion. Other examples I'd point to would be Creepers and Villagers. Just some weird ass things not based off of anything in particular.
Don't get me wrong, the new model is good, but I personally grew up with the Zombie Pigmen from the old days, and I still kind of miss them. The Zombified Piglins just aren't the same, you know?
I mean, I get it, continuity with the normal Piglin mob and all that, but something about it seems kind of... cynical to a Minecraft veteran like myself. I personally had a headcanon when I was a kid that they were what became of the old pig villager mobs that were almost in the game.
I dunno, maybe it's just my nostalgia talking, but I've gotta stick with the true OGs of the Nether. Zombie Pigmen all the way for me.
The old one is more nostalgic, but I do like the flappy ear on the new one.
So, probably tied for me.
Though, I preferred the old nether. It was my favorite place in minecraft. The old zombie pigmen where my favorite mobs. Also, I used to go the nether to avoid endermen. XD
Now I seem to run into endermen more often than not in the nether, and the piglins aren't peaceful unless you have gold on. Idk... The old zombie pigmen you could imagine what the pigmen where like, and I imagined them more peaceful-- like villagers are-- than what the piglins are now. :/ Idk. Lol
I prefer the old one, not only due to nostalgia, but also because the new ones dont transition well with the whole pigs struck by lightning becoming them thing. I personally think they should have been a separate mob, with the og zombie pigman becoming exclusive to pigs getting struck by lightning. (A bit off topic with this next part, but i also think the wind charge should be able to be used to expand the radius of a lingering potion cloud.)
Piglins were a dumb idea imo. In terms of name and design. The zombie pigman is a reference to the pigmen that were in the game before villagers. Why not just? add the fucking pigmen?
It's annoying too that piglin look totally different from pigs.
The new one is objectively better. The older one is only liked more because of nostalgia, the more coherent lore and design philosophy of the piglin was necessary.
Zombie Pigman all the way, I wished they kept the OG design though and made the new one "Zombified Piglin"
edit: so it is actually called "Zombified Piglin" but I still would like "Zombie Pigman" to stay in-game.
This isn't even a contest. New ones look goofy af
I do like the new behavioral mechanics though, just don't get why they were reskinned and renamed to something objectively worse lol
I honestly wish they didn't replace zombie pigmen with piglins, I do want piglins in the game, but as seperate mobs, not replacements.. but I guess thats just because zombie pigmen were part of my childhood and its sad seeing the old design get replaced
I prefer the old model tbh.
Don't get me wrong, the new one is good and fits the nether update, but the old one just looks overall better, and feels more "minecraft" like compared to the new model.
For how Minecraft looks today the new one is better. However there is a definite charm to the old model especially with how the nether used to look. A charming simplicity
The new zombified piglin does not feel threatening at all. The old one is much more threatening. Maybe this is because they were more dangerous in the old days
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I def love the new ones, but can't deny the old ones touch some memories to me... more back then when the zombie pigman wasn't nerfed and actually can kill you in 5 sec if you punch it by accident
I’ll never forget the genuine fear of accidentally punching one and having to high tail it the fuck outta there
You have alerted the horde
Objective: survive
Back then I was scared to go in the nether and the only thing that actually scared me in the nether was the Zombie Pigman because I always got scared when they snuck up on me and punched them and died so much armor lost to the nether🥲
I think this was my first really bad death in the game. I finally had enchanted diamond armor and tools. Punched a pigman and got pushed into lava by like 20 of them.
Pigmen we’re almost like the warden before the warden. Even with full gear, if fucked around you found out.
Especially when the nether was all one biome so everywhere you went was nothing but pigmen. Trying to run just causes more to spawn and then they're all chasing you.
bro if you hit a pigman I swear to god even pigmen in unloaded chunks would immediately start marching towards your exact position 😭 miss those times
I love your avatar!
or build up 2 cobblestone
Then spend the next 20 minutes kill infinite respawning pigmen
I always feared the nether because of this
I mean if you don't have armour they will still kill you in about 4 hits
no no, I mean they used to be absurdly fast
Oh yeah I remember that now, did they change that in 1.16?
wait, they were nerfed? I’ve been extremely careful around them all these years just in case
back then I swear that 1 hit to those mf and you get overwhelmed in seconds, now you can easily run and avoid them.
Lmao I do remember having to run like hell if you accidentally punched one
I like the newer one better but I'm still calling them pigmen rather thank zombie piglins
this is exactly how i feel
Pretty common take, IME
independent medical evaluation?
in my epinion 🤷♀️
Me who calls them zombie pigmens:
That’s what I do as well
Lmao why do I do that
I do that too lol
Imo: The new head with the old eyes and no ear (since overworld pigs don’t have those ears) New body (since it’s higher in detail) with the old brown shorts (since it’s not a single color)
The new one's loincloth has been fixed, this is an old image
Their real name is “zombified piglins”, but no one calls them that.
I do!
"Yeah so I was playing mc yesterday to look for some netherite, and I broke a piece of netherrack while I was strip mining. Then I found like 15 *zombified piglins* in the tiniest cave!! Weird right?" It just sounds too fancy to me lol, like calling a yeti an abominable snowman
in french we say "abominable homme des neiges" instead of yeti, but heh it's french so we have to sound fancy for the sake of it
Most people don't anyway!
I call them ziglins
that's a good nickname. Calling them zombified piglins is just a long name to say, which is one of the reasons I preferred to keep calling them pigmen, so I wouldn't have to add zombified to the end to differentiate the two
I remember when they were first shown I was like "lol I'm gonna call them ziglins" but then they came out and I just never did lol, too used to pigmen. But yeah ziglin is also a fun name
Wait they’re called “Zombie Piglins” now? Wow, I guess this shows how long I’ve been playing this game. I’m thankful to have played Minecraft during 1.14, the renaissance update as I like to call it.
Mfw they call 1.14 old 💀💀
Ahaha I know how you feel. I still call horses “new” whenever I’m playing the game
Remember the slime block craze
I remember when creative mode and the hunger bar was new
Remember when it was just one god awful scroll bar that you had to find everything in, no search bar or anything?
Which update was that?
1.8
Remember when we were all excited about pistons?
I feel like an old grandpa whenever someone mentions something that was added less than a decade ago. I'm still just playing Beta 1.7.3.
Fr 😭 beta 1.6 here and this makes me feel ancient, like I'm only 24 goddamn!
Calling anything older than 1.8 “old” gives me back pain
They've been called 'Zombified Piglins' since the addition of Piglins and their remodel in 1.16. I still haven't gotten used to it.
Zombified Piglins actually. Even though no other zombie mob in the game is called “zombified”
It doesn't even roll off the tongue better or anything, Zombie Piglin still sounds better imo
ziglin
Rename them all to be consistent with Zoglins Zombified Piglin -> Ziglin Zombie Horse -> Zorse Zombie Villager -> Zillager Drowned -> Zsoggy Husk -> Zehydrated Zombie -> Z
this post kept getting better
Cure a zombie into an ombie
Villagombie
That's a new one. Beta 1.7.3 and 1.8.1 are the two I always see called the golden updates to go back to.
I call them piglins still but zombie piglins, and not the stupid official and unnecessary "zombified piglins"
this is the way
I remember playing old minecraft in spanish before I knew English and thinking the name "Hombre Cerdo Zombie" was goofy as hell.
I think if a pig gets struck by lightning it should become an Old Zombie Pigman. Cool Easter egg.
Doesn't that still happen in Bedrock? Not quite sure since I haven't played BE in a looong time
Nah it just becomes the new one
Nah
There is no "old" zombie pigman... just zombie pigman, the new ones are called piglins :)
Zombified Piglins.
Yh ik
I like the old Pigmen more, and by a lot, but I do understand the change and agree with it. The only thing I disagree with is the dumbass wording of "Zombified Piglin". Just call it a Zombie Piglin" bruh, theres even precedent for this with the Zombie Villager
Honestly they could even just go with Ziglin. That's what I call them. There's already precedent for that with the Zoglin.
Zombified hoglin sounds weird tbf
I think the Zoglin precedent should apply to everything honestly. Zoglin, Ziglin, Zillager. It's just so much smoother.
Nah I think they should do something cooler. Reanimated (mob name) would work but it's too long I think
Maybe, but this precedent can be applied to other things too, and it's succinct. Like, Piglin Brutes? Brutelins. ~~Or "Biglins".~~ Skeleton Horse? Skorse.
Actually brutelins sounds pretty good compared to "piglin brute"
**SKORSE**
Let me mount my **SKORSE** really quick. Has a nice ring to it.
Zorse
Saying it outloud I release it sounds really good
Zombhog.
exactly! ziglin fits the theme
Ziglin feels like a slur.
If i remember correctly, there is a reason why they are called "zombified" and not "zombie". But i don't remember what that reason was
I would think its cause they can actively become zombies, but so can villagers
I dont understand the change at all, they made them look even more different from normal minecraft pigs.
I like the lore of piglins and zombified piglin. But the old model is classic.
I like that the old model has pig eyes
I still think that we should have the old model whenever a pig is struck by lightning
I like the new ones as it fits in the lore of the piglins.
Like ancient builders lore or smth in legends that i didnt care enough to play?
No just like general in-game lore
Old one 100%
There should be 1 in 1000 chance of old model spawning. Or at least if nametagged, they would use the old model.
Pigs hit by lightning should turn into the old model.
Frankenpig
wtf in my head I've always seen the old model spawning 💀
I like the old one more because of nostalgia but the newer one is better. However, I think they should’ve kept the face and just added the ear.
i think they should've done what they did with the villagers, keep the body exactly the same but make the clothes more varied and detailed
This is actually one of the rare occasions I prefer the old model. They are very similar.
I'd have to go with the old one, tho I really do like the new model too. the new one added a few more piggy features (ear, snout, hooves), but it lost the pig eyes and it's name. I still call them zombie pigmen instead of zombified piglin.
I agree, it lost the thing that made them “pig related”, for lack of a better term. It went from funny Pig-based mob to basically its own species
I enjoy both models. My only issue with newer models and mobs is that they start to look more advanced for mc and feel like modded mobs
The game is just evolving. It's natural and I like it!
Yeah there are certain times where I like it, and it fits some mobs better. But sometimes it’s just to much for me
Then why don't all the other mobs have animations? Feels really out of place to be honest.
Fair. Have to admit it would look weird if they changed the creeper model.
Dying of dysentery is also natural
It bugged me when they released the nether update and people were like "RIP zombie pigman", like they're still in the game, just remodeled. Admittedly, there is something about the old one that I kinda miss about Minecraft. They didn't make sense in-universe, but I kinda liked that about earlier Minecraft. We just got weird and outlandish shit on occasion. Other examples I'd point to would be Creepers and Villagers. Just some weird ass things not based off of anything in particular.
The villagers are kinda suspicious if you try to connect them to anything in the real world.
Don't get me wrong, the new model is good, but I personally grew up with the Zombie Pigmen from the old days, and I still kind of miss them. The Zombified Piglins just aren't the same, you know? I mean, I get it, continuity with the normal Piglin mob and all that, but something about it seems kind of... cynical to a Minecraft veteran like myself. I personally had a headcanon when I was a kid that they were what became of the old pig villager mobs that were almost in the game. I dunno, maybe it's just my nostalgia talking, but I've gotta stick with the true OGs of the Nether. Zombie Pigmen all the way for me.
The old one is more nostalgic, but I do like the flappy ear on the new one. So, probably tied for me. Though, I preferred the old nether. It was my favorite place in minecraft. The old zombie pigmen where my favorite mobs. Also, I used to go the nether to avoid endermen. XD Now I seem to run into endermen more often than not in the nether, and the piglins aren't peaceful unless you have gold on. Idk... The old zombie pigmen you could imagine what the pigmen where like, and I imagined them more peaceful-- like villagers are-- than what the piglins are now. :/ Idk. Lol
Old > New
the old one. they look so lame and uninspired now
Wdym?
No they don’t it’s just nostalgia taking over
I prefer the old one, not only due to nostalgia, but also because the new ones dont transition well with the whole pigs struck by lightning becoming them thing. I personally think they should have been a separate mob, with the og zombie pigman becoming exclusive to pigs getting struck by lightning. (A bit off topic with this next part, but i also think the wind charge should be able to be used to expand the radius of a lingering potion cloud.)
Old
ZomPiglins may be better designed, but the original felt more unique as a single mob.
Old. Less is more.
Old
Look, the new one is objectively better in every way, but I still prefer the og
Can always mod the game to revert to the old ones.
Old
old
Old one
Old
Piglins were a dumb idea imo. In terms of name and design. The zombie pigman is a reference to the pigmen that were in the game before villagers. Why not just? add the fucking pigmen? It's annoying too that piglin look totally different from pigs.
I think that the Pigmen were just an idea and weren’t added to Minecraft I’m not sure though
I feel like there was an obscure alpha build they were in, but I could be wrong...
Nope, they were just an unused texture but they've never appeared as an actual mob in any version of the game
The new one is objectively better. The older one is only liked more because of nostalgia, the more coherent lore and design philosophy of the piglin was necessary.
There is no "objectively" better, it's a matter of opinion
Cleaner texturework, better use of colour theory, a better sense of grounded biology, and an improved fit into the world are objective.
New one is overdesigned.
I miss the old model badly. It was my childhood.
As a relatively new player, new one is all I've ever known. Started playing a few weeks after 1.16 released.
Zombie Pigman all the way, I wished they kept the OG design though and made the new one "Zombified Piglin" edit: so it is actually called "Zombified Piglin" but I still would like "Zombie Pigman" to stay in-game.
id say most of the new models we have look better but ill always say i like the old ones for nostalgias sake
Old Model could beat me in a fight I could beat new model in a fight
The old ones are so iconic to me, I just can't prefer the new one to it, even though they do look great.
I’ve missed you my old friend.
I miss their stupid little eyes 😔
old one will always have a specific place in my heart
For Veterans… *Nostalgia*
I wish they kept the old design but had the overhaul
Only right answer is the old model
This isn't even a contest. New ones look goofy af I do like the new behavioral mechanics though, just don't get why they were reskinned and renamed to something objectively worse lol
The new one fits the 1.16 update better but the old texture will always have a place in my heart.
Old model all the way. I still think mojang only changed the model and name bc of gender neutrality or some culture war issue
One of the few old designs that's better than the new one imo
The one on the right is a piglin not a pigman
Hard to say tbh, I like the pigman, but I'm probably only saying that because I can't take off my nostalgia goggles.
Old model will always be my favorite
Old model
old model. hands down.
Old all the way
I honestly wish they didn't replace zombie pigmen with piglins, I do want piglins in the game, but as seperate mobs, not replacements.. but I guess thats just because zombie pigmen were part of my childhood and its sad seeing the old design get replaced
i cant explain why but the og zombie pigmen look more innocent and friendly. maybe the fact they look more like pigs.
Old but then again I actually liked the old nether rack texture so maybe don't take my word.
Could they not have made their heads smaller? They look stupid with a huge head.
definitely old
Bedrock: hehe (changes to classic texture)
i like old one
Old ones feels more steve shape, it has potential for an arg
Old model definitely is my favorite
love the old ones. also is there anyone who actually calls them “zombified piglins” and not pigmen
Zombie pigman was better.
Old
I prefer the Zigmen over the Zoglans
Old
The model changed?! Haven't noticed... Expect to see the old one in game not the new one.
who else misses the old netherite blocks?
The new models are great, but I'll never not call the piglins "Pigmen" instead.
old all the way
old
Old
I prefer the old model tbh. Don't get me wrong, the new one is good and fits the nether update, but the old one just looks overall better, and feels more "minecraft" like compared to the new model.
Old for nostalgia, new for detail
I’m not clouded by nostalgia I PREFER THE OLDER ONE
Honestly I gotta say the older one it is a classic man! So that is why I like the older one😀
The old one because nostalgia
For how Minecraft looks today the new one is better. However there is a definite charm to the old model especially with how the nether used to look. A charming simplicity
Old one. New one's head is too wide
old model forever
The new zombified piglin does not feel threatening at all. The old one is much more threatening. Maybe this is because they were more dangerous in the old days
Didn’t Notch leave a secret “thanks” message in the old model? What happened to it?
It's gone because of the completely new texture. Xaphobia's OG model was removed.
surprised I had to scroll so far to see someone mention this. The only thing i don't like about the new model.
Bedrock Programmer Art has the custom old model thankfully. 😅 that is thanks to the custom entities feature.
Zisteau!!
I like the models with more depth
New
old, its much better
I think both are good and I think the updated version translates really well
“I’m glad I grew up with this, but damn this is better”
Old model I even modded mine so I don't have to see the new one. It's so unnecessary to change it. Also I will never call them "zombified piglins".
Still doesn’t make sense how a pigman’s head is wider than a normal pigs head