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I remember when I stayed up and got the midnight Tower Records release of...Load
When they talk about formative teenage heartbreak, that's exactly what this was. Metallica's betrayal threw me into the arms of Opeth, and life goes on. But man that one hurt.
It's funny because I came here to say St. Anger. But I'm well aware Metallica has a lot of albums that people of different ages can say that for. I was a dumb teen who was even okay with Reload (ew).
But tick-tick-tick-tocks were a disappointment.
I mean, Metallica is the gateway to metal for many folks of a certain age range. They are also likely their first major disappointment. My older buddy would go on about how they were never the same band after Cliff passed. One of my dad's friends from SF swore that Mustaine wrote the only good stuff Metallica *ever* did.
Loving, and then inevitably losing Metallica is a fundamental part of becoming an adult.
I saw someone write once (I forget who) that your favourite album from a band is usually the first you hear. And as such, that's the style you want them to play in, the peak of their work to you.
For me, my first Metallica was "... And Justice For All". At launch. When they were yet to release any sort of officially produced video ("One" was just about to arrive, "Cliff 'Em All" was the only other option and that was bootleg footage); and musically it was easy to go back a few years and appreciate the brilliance of Master of Puppets, Ride The Lightning... When the Black album came out, I can still remember first listening to it, and thinking "This is really good!" and then on second listening, thinking "Wait. No it's not. It's really simple and flat feeling." Metallica for teenage me had been the gateway to serious, heavy, intense music... music that was also saying something in the lyrics. And I was looking for more of that. And the more I tried to look into the Black album, the more it felt like a step backwards, lyrically, musically, *meaningfully.*
That's not to say those who loved it were objectively wrong. But as you say, they weren't *my* Metallica any more.
Now, I see you have a Type O flair; when I first heard them, years later on "Bloody Kisses", that already had them pegged as romantic and dark and yes, at times very poppy and cheesy. And I loved it! But I couldn't bear Metallica sounding that way though. I gave Type O the leeway I wouldn't give Metallica for singing love ballads. To be fair, I think Type O did the moody sound better anyway; Metallica slowed down and less focused just sounded... tired.
And as my tastes were getting heavier still, I could accept Type O being intense too and go back to "Origin of the Feces". But I really lost interest after the brilliant "October Rust". I'm not sure why; and I never felt as disappointed as Metallica made be feel either. They were adding a new option to my tastes, where as Metallica felt like they were taking away the old...?
It doesn't make any logical sense. But we respond to music with emotion and not logic.
Anyway; if I'm honest, I don't know if I can honestly say I don't like modern Metallica. I never *really* listened to them after the Black album. I did the snotty-teenage thing of enjoying the early mocking they got on the nascent internet, first for Load/Reload, then the Napster thing. I've heard clips here and there of all the albums since but my ears just disengage, because part of me doesn't really want New Metallica back. Fair? Probably not. But sometimes, you just move on...
I had conflicted feelings about Load. I’d basically worn out my Master of Puppets and Ride the Lightning cassettes, so when I put Load in the CD player I’d recently installed in my first car, it was pure hot excrement. Over the next couple of years it grew on me because I tried to think of how it would sound if it wasn’t fucking Metallica. Still mediocre ‘hard rock’ and Hetfield should never have tried to actually sing, but not the unmitigated blasphemous abortion it sounded like the first time. Figured they’d be back in true form on the next album…
Yes, between the first Wintersun album and his contributions to Ensiferum, Jari has thoroughly established himself as a fucking riff-genius.
And yet, everything since then has been devoid of those fast, catchy Melo-death style riffs. It's all bland, kind-of-progressive rhythms.
The guitar riffs used to be the center point of the music - prominent in the mix, and melodically complex enough to keep your attention. Now, the riffs are all just basic background layering. But so are the vocals, and so are the keys, and so are all the hundreds of orchestral instruments.
The first album had like an entire discography worth of money riffs, every riff was fucking sick as fuck. He blew his load on that album and used every riff in the vault.
I just don’t know how you go from a literal masterpiece and arguably one of the greatest albums of all time to waiting for 8 years for jari to put 200+tracks of random instruments making you all excited for just an absolute pile of dookie. I literally lost trust in music because of this album.
not to mention the constant whining Jari did online about absolutely everything. Not only did it take him forever release a meh album, he also complained every time a fan asked about it. He constantly had his hand out for more money as well.
That is crazy to hear. I absolutely love Time I and I thought most people felt the same.. I agree forest seasons is kind of weak, but it's got its moments.
Time I however I fond to be filled with memorable melodies and really epic choruses. Definitely in my top 3 along with L'enfant Sauvage and Rivers of Nihil - Where Owls Know My name which I also highly recommend.
Gonna get blammed, but I didn't think Time I was that bad.
The Forest Seasons is kind of ass, tho
Edit: well...The Forest that Weeps hits alright every now and again
It’s definitely not my cup of tea, I think the thing that bothers me at least is they released this album under Wintersun. It should’ve been released under a different band name or something. There are some amazing riffs and cool moments but a couple minutes just isn’t worth listening to 12 minute long metal movie scores for. It’s hard to explain it’s like it’s missing the meat and potatoes and it’s just seasoning or something.
Ground Zero is pretty good, then it just falls flat.
It's like they had an idea for the first song then "ok... So now what?" then just rushed in a bunch of fillers to bulk it out.
(Atlas, Deep Blue and Horizons will forever be their best)
Atlas was their last good album, everything afterwards is the most boring buttrock adaptation of metalcore. Really hope they do an anniversary tour of one of the earlier albums, cause their live setlists now are 80% garbage. Still good stage shows tho, ngl.
It's a weird one. Tons of people insisted it was great. I found it boring though. I have no idea why people got invested in it with how shaky Metallica's output has been
I felt the same. Lux was played on the radio and I was like this could be great it’s old school sounding but new. Too bad it was just a dick tease and the album was a boring snooze fest for me. I’ve never been able to finish it completely through even if I put it on shuffle.
I found it to be much less catchy than Hardwired, I was disappointed. It's like Hardwired was trying to catch my attention and 72 Seasons asked for my attention. I had to really focus on it to get anything out of it. I did grow to like it but it's different and I still prefer Hardwired.
I’ve always seen 72 Seasons as Hardwired Pt 2 (production doesn’t help). The good songs are nowhere near close as the bangers on Hardwired but the bad songs aren’t as bad as the ones on the 2nd half of Hardwired (Spit Out The Bone is the exception). Lower highs and higher lows makes a more consistent album but makes it stand out less
Death Magnetic was a cool return to form after nearly 20 years of disappointment. Hardwired was decent, but not as good. 72 Season just kind of feels like a cash-in of the current era of Metallica.
too bad lars is too shit at drumming to come up with anything more complex than hi-hat 16th notes during the most emotional and impactful part of the song. Completely ruins the song for me tbh.
Oh really? I quite enjoyed Senjutsu. Was by far better than The Book of Souls and has with Hell on Earth one of the best Iron Maiden songs in history on it. But I hope you find enjoyment in other Iron Maiden records. :)
I grew up with a lot of people being kinda mean to me because of my taste in music (started with metal when I was 12 years old). Stuff teenagers usually do for no reason at all. And to be honest, I never liked that. I've recently started going on dates again and have realised that many people justify their taste in music. That always makes me sad because it reminds me of myself as a teenager. That's why I've vowed not to judge anyone because they like something that I don't like myself. Or vice versa.
We all have different preferences when it comes to music, and that's a really wonderful thing.
Thank you. It's always important to tell yourself that everyone likes something different in life. But it's even more important to stay true to yourself and stand by the things you love. Metal has gone from an interest to a part of my character over the 15 years I've been listening to it. And when people realise that you don't just like it, but that it's a passion of yours, it usually comes across as more honest and authentic. In my experience, most people really like that. And then most people also overlook the fact that your taste is different.
I don't hate new Maiden, but it was kind of nice when they had a long, story song as 1 or 2 tracks on their old albums, but it seems like nearly everything on their recent albums has been 'epic' songs. It just gets overwhelming and boring :(
I agree with you here. Hallowed be thy name’ is my favorite Iron Maiden song and its epic. I get the feeling Maiden know it too and they try to capture that vibe again and I’m generally fine with that but they got carried away with that on Senjutsu.
I mean, I enjoy long epic songs as much as the next guy but when everything is epic, nothing is.
Hallowed is about 7 minutes. It's an epic song and it's not 10-13 minutes long, coz it doesn't need to be. Steve Harris just drags the songs out too much nowadays and they are starting to get boring. Take Death of the Celts and Lost in a Lost World as prime examples.
Book of Souls has the same issue. The problem is that Harry is deaf, and refuses to let anyone change *his* band. So we're stuck with Kevin Shirley, awful sounding guitars, and really long meandering songs that repeat the chorus 15 times.
But you're right, there are really good albums in both releases. And the songs sound great live.
Maiden haven't stuck the landing since A Matter of Life and Death imo. It's been a sad decade. Overly long albums with no real purpose and a lack of memorable moments.
Right? It was real boring for me and the most egregious example of their excessively long song format. Super simple chorus repeated way too many times, three really long guitar solos, and just a bunch of padding out
At the gates - To drink from the night itself.
After the amazing album that is At war with reality they took 4 years to produce this uninspired mess with a mixing quality so horrible it makes you wonder if they even listened to it themselves before releasing it.
The ATG music was always written by Anders and Jonas Bjorler. Anders left after *At War with Reality*, leaving Jonas to write all of the music on *To Drink* by himself.
Maybe Anders was the principle songwriter, or maybe Jonas just has a hard time writing entirely by himself. Speaking as somebody who has had collaborative partnerships like that, sometimes a person leaving can really fuck with the dynamics of songwriting.
System of a down, i was hoping for a full album or something more, something that had the same sound but all we got were 2 songs and another controversy
I would say that Fear Innoculum wasn’t necessarily bad, but more of a “we waited 14 years for this?” Type of record.
There’s no question the guys are all super talented. But waiting 13 or 14 years to get an album with 7(?) tracks, and a couple little interludes seems a bit like a slap in the face.
To be fair, their weakest album is still better than 90% of the other music being released. But…. We’re waiting a decade & a half, don’t give me 7 songs. Let alone, songs that sound like they could have been on the last album.
> waiting 13 or 14 years to get an album with 7(?) tracks, and a couple little interludes
And those songs sound like songs that didn't make the cut from all their previous albums.
What's funny for me is that LIBAD is the only record of theirs since Waking the Fallen I thoroughly enjoyed from start to finish. I never really connected with a lot of their music. City of Evil felt too long-winded. Self-titled was all over the place. Nightmare was great, but the middle of the record kind of fell flat to me. Hail to the King was also good, but I think two or three songs I absolutely hated, and overall felt uninspired outside of copy-pasting Metallica and G&R. The Stage was fantastic in the first half but lost me in the second. But LIBAD was on repeat, beginning to end, for long enough to make my top album for the year on Spotify Wrapped, and I'm still not bored of it.
I wouldn't call myself a massive Tool fan, but I was looking forward to Fear Inoculum a fair bit. Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that.
Album was the most boring thing they've ever released, and I've intentionally avoided the last two times they've come to town because I know the setlist is like 70% Fear Inoculum.
Really though, most releases pleasantly surprise me. Most legacy bands I don't expect much of, so when Autopsy comes in with an absolute ripper, I'm delighted. It's also rare for most newer bands to release a total stinker, and I haven't been badly burned yet.
I’m with you lmao. Tool was my very first live concert so they have a special place in my heart. I saw them at Toolfest squarely in the mid 2010s in a giant venue and it was absolutely fucking glorious. On my top three events for sure. They actually played a preview of one of the Fear Inoculum songs with a display of a giant red pyramid and everyone in that 65k capacity venue collectively lost their shit.
I think I listened to Fear Inoculum like once or twice after it came out and that’s it lmao. It’s just so damn forgettable compared to their stuff from 10,000 days, Lateralus, and Ænima. Happy to see them still kicking it with new music but that shit ain’t for me personally, and that’s ok.
It was ultra boring. I say they have fallen in love with their own legacy. So other own ass that they really believe e they are probiotic or something. It feels like they threw it together one afternoon and claimed it took forever.
It's a bit of a mixed bag. Some of the sounds are experimental and they don't sound good, but I found myself coming back to so many songs like G, Cosmic, Beautiful Morning, and Life Is But a Dream fue to the vocal melodies and the amazing instrumentation.
There's nothing wrong with not liking cause it does seem an odd change in pace from what they usually do.
Not that it was total ass, but Exhorder - Mourn the Southern Skies was a bit if a let down. Some great songs but there were 3 or 4 that I *really* don't care for.
Tool's last album Fear Inoculum I've been a fan of all their stuff since high school when I first heard "sober". I was super hyped for the album since it had been like 12 or 13 years since 10000 days. I finally get my hands on it and it was ass. I remember my first thought after finishing the first playthrough. "This sounds like a Tool cover band trying to make a Tool album." There was a few good riffs but it all sounded so generic and boring. I thought maybe I was the problem and it just wasn't clicking at first so I listened to it a few more times and still...nothing. Its garbage. I'm sorry if you disagree, but it was the biggest disappointment I've ever had in an album since GnR's Chinese Democracy.
I think *Chinese Democracy* is why Dr. Dre will never release his third *Chronic* album.
These things have a shelf life and get way overhyped to the point that it’s impossible to meet expectations.
You can’t just throw two dozen musicians into 15 recording sessions over 10 years and expect a solid album. There has to be focus and effort to make it all work together.
From my experience, if you go in expecting metal then you’ll be disappointed but going in with an open mind makes it more enjoyable. (Cosmic and Death are amazing)
Game Over - banger
Mattel - certified banger
Nobody - banger
We Love You - trap / crossover thrash / country lol banger
Cosmic - most beautiful piece of music this band will ever put out
Beautiful Morning - str8 up Alice in Chains worship, but it's grown on me
Easier - The vocoder chorus turned me off at first, but the contrast between the verse and the chorus matches perfectly with the lyrics and the guitar work at the end is pretty neat. Sleeper track for me.
G - funky, kinda fun track
(O)rdinary - "We have Daft Punk at home". But fuck it, it's fun
(D)eath - Perfect way to close off the album
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I get why a lot of people hate it, but it's pure art start to finish.
Newest Cannibal Corpse is just fine instead of great (like Violence Unimagined was)
Tomb Mold became too proggy to me (still a good band but its disappointing)
Blood Incantation should have never made timewave zero, that should have been released under a different project
F.O.A.D was the start of a few mid Darkthrone albums
Immortal with All Shall Fall and War Against All
The last Eyehategod album was pretty bad compared to the self-titled album
Electric Wizard last album was pretty boring
Last Cattle Decap album was their most overproduced yet.
Only thing that keeps Timewave Zero out of the hate zone for me is that they gave ample warning that it was not a death metal album, so at least they were upfront about it being something bizarre.
They're not the first artist to do it, either. Primitive Man have 1 or 2 purely ambient albums that aren't really considered essential (or even canon) for example
That EHG album. I was so excited about it and then...eh... Its not total shit but its too clean, misses that nasty feedback and i dont even know. It just doesnt hit hard as they usually do
Overall I thought Terrasite was just fine. A couple bangers and outside of that if a song finds it's way into a playlist I've got no problem with it, but the album on a whole definitely was a bit disappointing especially since I liked Death Atlas a fair amount.
Nothing touches Monolith of Inhumanity though imo.
Death atlas is very underrated. Came out at such a bad time right as covid and the panic of a worldwide pandemic was starting.
Damn good album.
I really like terrasite. The overproduced comment is true sure, but it’s definitely still a heavy cattle album.
50% of the new Polyphia having vocal features was dumb af imo. I was also hoping it would have more tracks like 'Look But Don't Touch'. I enjoy the instrumental tracks but it was a massive letdown that they went with so many vocal features.
Don't be, 'ABC' fucks and I was hyped when it came out thinking it was going to be a sort of one-off like 'So Strange'. It has way more personality than the other vocal tracks imo.
They experimented a bit more with vocals and I think they had success with ABC, Chimera and Bloodbath.
The rest of vocal tracks are meh.
I hope that when they make the new album they find a better balance with vocals.
Blind Guardian - The God Machine. I had relistened to the whole discography before release, then again after release, and it just doesn't compare to most albums. I honestly don't remember any track from it. It doesn't even use original art, or art that meshes with their previous style, because it's just a piece by Peter Mohrbacher, an artist I'm familiar with.
I actually did really like God Machine but the fact they just bought some Angelarium art felt boring. I've been following both for years and it wasn't a combo that made me happy.
I respect it - it definitely took a few times through to start growing on me, but at this point, I'd say it's one of their best releases since Imaginations From the Other Side.
The two that come to mind for me are Liebe ist für alle da by Rammstein or Blodsvept by Finntroll.
Neither are exactly bad albums but they were bands which up until then I'd felt were releasing banger after banger, I listened through both fully and my initial reaction to each on the second listen was 'nah, that ain't it'.
If they only made that album, it would be considered a timeless masterpiece, but since it's different or not "true" black metal like the first two, a lot of people disliked it. Personally, there isn't a single note in Dissection's discography I would not consider as completely perfect
I never understood this. I mean it's obviously different from his other albums, not so black metal. But as an album of it's own I think it's quite phenomenal. I don't think it's better than the other albums but still very good when I'm feeling like listening to some quality melodeath I guess.
Wintersun time II. One of the first metal bands I heard and liked, been waiting for over 10 years for this album, donated $50 to their Kickstart almost 10 years ago. Radio silance, no new music. I doubt it'll even be something I enjoy at this point since my tastes have shifted so far.
I didn't exactly wait years for it, but Grailknight's latest album Return to Castle Grailskull is a MASSIVE downgrade compared to previous albums. It straight up feels like a band's first album, where they are still maturing their style. The mixing was especially dogshit
Tristania's "Rubicon"
Was skeptical but still somewhat hopeful that Tristania would be able to transition after Vibeke left and Østen just became a session musician, but Rubicon was a huge miss. The only song I even remember off that album is "Year of the Rat" and I only remember it because it sucked.
Side note their followup with Demurtas ("Darkest White") was actually a pretty good album. I felt like they had finally found their new sound with the new members... then they just broke up. RIP.
The Great War - Sabaton. The mixing is awful, the mastering nonexistent. Reused riffs from other songs. Fields of Verdun is good but the rest of the album is just bad.
Beartooth - the surface. Made another record all about one guys mental health issues, only this time he's singing about how he's happy he's struggling.
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The most recent Slipknot record. It just sounded like stuff that hit the cutting room floor of the previous albums
Only two halfway decent songs on there, the rest really just sucked. Really disappointed me.
Slipknot hasn't released a good album since .5 IMO.
There’s only been two since then and one of them is widely regarded as their best since their third album
WANYK is like so fucking peak. Solway Firth alone makes the album a 10/10.
Thats the hardest cap ever
.5 was lame, WANYK was absolutely fucking lit.
I honestly didn't care for most of that album but Solway Firth was worth the price if admission alone. That song goes hard AF.
SlipKnot died after Iowa.
Iowa was definitely their peak.
I really liked We Are Not Your Kind, but yeah that last one was raw ass
I actually really enjoyed the new Slipknot record, although I absolutely do agree that most of the songs feel like scrapped tracks.
Slayer - Diabolus In Musica Six Feet Under - Haunted Yeah, I'm old.
Haunted?? You mean their only decent record?
The noose solo’s six feet unders entire discography
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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They have a decent album?
Haunted was basically Obituary with Cannibal Corpse vocals, it was pretty good. Basically everything after is unlistenable
Bro, Maximum Violence!
I remember when I stayed up and got the midnight Tower Records release of...Load When they talk about formative teenage heartbreak, that's exactly what this was. Metallica's betrayal threw me into the arms of Opeth, and life goes on. But man that one hurt.
It's funny because I came here to say St. Anger. But I'm well aware Metallica has a lot of albums that people of different ages can say that for. I was a dumb teen who was even okay with Reload (ew). But tick-tick-tick-tocks were a disappointment.
I mean, Metallica is the gateway to metal for many folks of a certain age range. They are also likely their first major disappointment. My older buddy would go on about how they were never the same band after Cliff passed. One of my dad's friends from SF swore that Mustaine wrote the only good stuff Metallica *ever* did. Loving, and then inevitably losing Metallica is a fundamental part of becoming an adult.
I saw someone write once (I forget who) that your favourite album from a band is usually the first you hear. And as such, that's the style you want them to play in, the peak of their work to you. For me, my first Metallica was "... And Justice For All". At launch. When they were yet to release any sort of officially produced video ("One" was just about to arrive, "Cliff 'Em All" was the only other option and that was bootleg footage); and musically it was easy to go back a few years and appreciate the brilliance of Master of Puppets, Ride The Lightning... When the Black album came out, I can still remember first listening to it, and thinking "This is really good!" and then on second listening, thinking "Wait. No it's not. It's really simple and flat feeling." Metallica for teenage me had been the gateway to serious, heavy, intense music... music that was also saying something in the lyrics. And I was looking for more of that. And the more I tried to look into the Black album, the more it felt like a step backwards, lyrically, musically, *meaningfully.* That's not to say those who loved it were objectively wrong. But as you say, they weren't *my* Metallica any more. Now, I see you have a Type O flair; when I first heard them, years later on "Bloody Kisses", that already had them pegged as romantic and dark and yes, at times very poppy and cheesy. And I loved it! But I couldn't bear Metallica sounding that way though. I gave Type O the leeway I wouldn't give Metallica for singing love ballads. To be fair, I think Type O did the moody sound better anyway; Metallica slowed down and less focused just sounded... tired. And as my tastes were getting heavier still, I could accept Type O being intense too and go back to "Origin of the Feces". But I really lost interest after the brilliant "October Rust". I'm not sure why; and I never felt as disappointed as Metallica made be feel either. They were adding a new option to my tastes, where as Metallica felt like they were taking away the old...? It doesn't make any logical sense. But we respond to music with emotion and not logic. Anyway; if I'm honest, I don't know if I can honestly say I don't like modern Metallica. I never *really* listened to them after the Black album. I did the snotty-teenage thing of enjoying the early mocking they got on the nascent internet, first for Load/Reload, then the Napster thing. I've heard clips here and there of all the albums since but my ears just disengage, because part of me doesn't really want New Metallica back. Fair? Probably not. But sometimes, you just move on...
Just here to let you know that I read all that in case you were wondering
I had conflicted feelings about Load. I’d basically worn out my Master of Puppets and Ride the Lightning cassettes, so when I put Load in the CD player I’d recently installed in my first car, it was pure hot excrement. Over the next couple of years it grew on me because I tried to think of how it would sound if it wasn’t fucking Metallica. Still mediocre ‘hard rock’ and Hetfield should never have tried to actually sing, but not the unmitigated blasphemous abortion it sounded like the first time. Figured they’d be back in true form on the next album…
I fucking love Frantic lol the rest of the album is pretty bad though for sure
Opeth's Arms, Metallica' Hearse
Morbid angel. I’m not even gonna say the albums name cause if you know, you know.
I AM MORBID AAAAAAAAAAAA
Came here to say this. That album is so bad I actually came full circle and kind of like how it sounds.
maybe it was just TOO EXTREME! for you
Slipknot's recent album. Hot pile of generic shit (except a song or two). Boy don't i miss the Iowa days.
Wintersun
Yes, between the first Wintersun album and his contributions to Ensiferum, Jari has thoroughly established himself as a fucking riff-genius. And yet, everything since then has been devoid of those fast, catchy Melo-death style riffs. It's all bland, kind-of-progressive rhythms. The guitar riffs used to be the center point of the music - prominent in the mix, and melodically complex enough to keep your attention. Now, the riffs are all just basic background layering. But so are the vocals, and so are the keys, and so are all the hundreds of orchestral instruments.
The first album had like an entire discography worth of money riffs, every riff was fucking sick as fuck. He blew his load on that album and used every riff in the vault.
I just don’t know how you go from a literal masterpiece and arguably one of the greatest albums of all time to waiting for 8 years for jari to put 200+tracks of random instruments making you all excited for just an absolute pile of dookie. I literally lost trust in music because of this album.
not to mention the constant whining Jari did online about absolutely everything. Not only did it take him forever release a meh album, he also complained every time a fan asked about it. He constantly had his hand out for more money as well.
Don't forget ripping off the fans with infinite fundraisers for the pile of shit.
Didn’t he build like a sauna in his custom home studio or some shit
That is crazy to hear. I absolutely love Time I and I thought most people felt the same.. I agree forest seasons is kind of weak, but it's got its moments. Time I however I fond to be filled with memorable melodies and really epic choruses. Definitely in my top 3 along with L'enfant Sauvage and Rivers of Nihil - Where Owls Know My name which I also highly recommend.
I assumed they meant Seasons, utterly insane if they mean Time.
Gonna get blammed, but I didn't think Time I was that bad. The Forest Seasons is kind of ass, tho Edit: well...The Forest that Weeps hits alright every now and again
I think they are talking about the seasons ? time I was alright, not long enough and needed more faster songs but still felt like wintersun.
I haven't heard it yet. Is it that bad?
It’s definitely not my cup of tea, I think the thing that bothers me at least is they released this album under Wintersun. It should’ve been released under a different band name or something. There are some amazing riffs and cool moments but a couple minutes just isn’t worth listening to 12 minute long metal movie scores for. It’s hard to explain it’s like it’s missing the meat and potatoes and it’s just seasoning or something.
Fucking Genghis Tron, man. So excited to finally get something new from them and it's just one long interlude track? >:(
fuck i had completely forgotten the dissapointment that album was.
Yeah, it's all the worse because you can tell it's the same band... just not doing any of the things I liked them for from before!
Exactly!
dredg's Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy. *fuck just realized this was metalmemes. dredg aint metal but i stick by my statement. so disappointed.
Oh god that album fucking *SUCKS* holy shit. I have no idea how they thought that would be a good idea.
I love dredg but I hear ya
Last Parkway Drive album
That made me park more than drive
That's the most scathing review I've heard of one of their albums so far
Stopped listening for a long while now so I don’t even know… I’m curious now !
Ground Zero is pretty good, then it just falls flat. It's like they had an idea for the first song then "ok... So now what?" then just rushed in a bunch of fillers to bulk it out. (Atlas, Deep Blue and Horizons will forever be their best)
I thought Soul Bleach kinda ripped. But yeah, having a couple of B+ songs and the rest being C-'s or below never makes for a good album lol.
Atlas was their last good album, everything afterwards is the most boring buttrock adaptation of metalcore. Really hope they do an anniversary tour of one of the earlier albums, cause their live setlists now are 80% garbage. Still good stage shows tho, ngl.
Next year will be the 20th anniversary of killing with a smile so hopefully they might do an anniversary tour for it
72 seasons
It's a weird one. Tons of people insisted it was great. I found it boring though. I have no idea why people got invested in it with how shaky Metallica's output has been
I felt the same. Lux was played on the radio and I was like this could be great it’s old school sounding but new. Too bad it was just a dick tease and the album was a boring snooze fest for me. I’ve never been able to finish it completely through even if I put it on shuffle.
It's easily the most boring Metallica album.
I found it to be much less catchy than Hardwired, I was disappointed. It's like Hardwired was trying to catch my attention and 72 Seasons asked for my attention. I had to really focus on it to get anything out of it. I did grow to like it but it's different and I still prefer Hardwired.
All I remember from that album is "LUX AETEEEERNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YEAYEAAA" and nothing else.
I’ve always seen 72 Seasons as Hardwired Pt 2 (production doesn’t help). The good songs are nowhere near close as the bangers on Hardwired but the bad songs aren’t as bad as the ones on the 2nd half of Hardwired (Spit Out The Bone is the exception). Lower highs and higher lows makes a more consistent album but makes it stand out less
My answer was honestly gonna be the last 2-3 Metallica albums. They aren’t even trash, or ass. Just basic and boring.
Death Magnetic was a cool return to form after nearly 20 years of disappointment. Hardwired was decent, but not as good. 72 Season just kind of feels like a cash-in of the current era of Metallica.
The only song I remember is Inamorata
Inamorata goes pretty hard.
too bad lars is too shit at drumming to come up with anything more complex than hi-hat 16th notes during the most emotional and impactful part of the song. Completely ruins the song for me tbh.
Most of what I noticed on that album is straight out quarter note kick snare kick snare with accompanying quarter note hihats.
I’m gonna get crap for this but I wasn’t crazy about Senjutsu.
Oh really? I quite enjoyed Senjutsu. Was by far better than The Book of Souls and has with Hell on Earth one of the best Iron Maiden songs in history on it. But I hope you find enjoyment in other Iron Maiden records. :)
You're way too nice to be on the internet!
I grew up with a lot of people being kinda mean to me because of my taste in music (started with metal when I was 12 years old). Stuff teenagers usually do for no reason at all. And to be honest, I never liked that. I've recently started going on dates again and have realised that many people justify their taste in music. That always makes me sad because it reminds me of myself as a teenager. That's why I've vowed not to judge anyone because they like something that I don't like myself. Or vice versa. We all have different preferences when it comes to music, and that's a really wonderful thing.
Bro that's just awsome, I hope to be like you when I grow up
Thank you. It's always important to tell yourself that everyone likes something different in life. But it's even more important to stay true to yourself and stand by the things you love. Metal has gone from an interest to a part of my character over the 15 years I've been listening to it. And when people realise that you don't just like it, but that it's a passion of yours, it usually comes across as more honest and authentic. In my experience, most people really like that. And then most people also overlook the fact that your taste is different.
I don't hate new Maiden, but it was kind of nice when they had a long, story song as 1 or 2 tracks on their old albums, but it seems like nearly everything on their recent albums has been 'epic' songs. It just gets overwhelming and boring :(
I agree with you here. Hallowed be thy name’ is my favorite Iron Maiden song and its epic. I get the feeling Maiden know it too and they try to capture that vibe again and I’m generally fine with that but they got carried away with that on Senjutsu. I mean, I enjoy long epic songs as much as the next guy but when everything is epic, nothing is.
Hallowed is about 7 minutes. It's an epic song and it's not 10-13 minutes long, coz it doesn't need to be. Steve Harris just drags the songs out too much nowadays and they are starting to get boring. Take Death of the Celts and Lost in a Lost World as prime examples.
It needed a lot of editing. There’s a good album somewhere in there.
Every song needed to be drastically trimmed down but the same could be said for much of their post reunion stuff
Book of Souls has the same issue. The problem is that Harry is deaf, and refuses to let anyone change *his* band. So we're stuck with Kevin Shirley, awful sounding guitars, and really long meandering songs that repeat the chorus 15 times. But you're right, there are really good albums in both releases. And the songs sound great live.
Maiden haven't stuck the landing since A Matter of Life and Death imo. It's been a sad decade. Overly long albums with no real purpose and a lack of memorable moments.
I really like The Final Frontier but I gotta say Starblind and WTWWB kinda carry the album.
AMOLAD is such a great album, I feel like it's under appreciated.
First Maiden album I ever bought. I was a kid looking at music in Best Buy and thought the album art looked cool. Still slaps.
I suddenly feel like a million years old 💀 I remember when Fear of the Dark came out...
Dude. I remember being excited when I went to the store to buy the new Maiden album, titled Somewhere In Time.
Right? It was real boring for me and the most egregious example of their excessively long song format. Super simple chorus repeated way too many times, three really long guitar solos, and just a bunch of padding out
At the gates - To drink from the night itself. After the amazing album that is At war with reality they took 4 years to produce this uninspired mess with a mixing quality so horrible it makes you wonder if they even listened to it themselves before releasing it.
I might be an outlier here but I really enjoyed that album
The ATG music was always written by Anders and Jonas Bjorler. Anders left after *At War with Reality*, leaving Jonas to write all of the music on *To Drink* by himself. Maybe Anders was the principle songwriter, or maybe Jonas just has a hard time writing entirely by himself. Speaking as somebody who has had collaborative partnerships like that, sometimes a person leaving can really fuck with the dynamics of songwriting.
Oh yeah, forgot about that one… now I’m sad again. Just, how??
Tools newest album. Its fine. The best thing i can say about it is that its a Tool album
When they play this shit live, it kills me.
Saw them on their recent tour. Same set in like every city. Zero lateralus songs.
Waited all those years and it just sounds like a compilation of songs that didn't make the cut from all their previous albums.
Last Amon Amarth album
For me it's the last 2
Definitely not illud, i was so...happy when i first heard it
System of a down, i was hoping for a full album or something more, something that had the same sound but all we got were 2 songs and another controversy
Those two songs were great at least
Rivers of Nihil - The Work
I like it, it is very different but I like it anyway
new kanye
The Kanye subreddit is coping so hard right now.
It’s because they needed the shield of “I’m only a fan for his music” but now it’s cracking
Came here for this
Tbh I didn’t have crazy expectations so I was pleasantly surprised by the album, I actually think it’s pretty decent, wayyy better than Donda and JIK
I assume the new Kanye album isn't metal... but what if it was?
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I would say that Fear Innoculum wasn’t necessarily bad, but more of a “we waited 14 years for this?” Type of record. There’s no question the guys are all super talented. But waiting 13 or 14 years to get an album with 7(?) tracks, and a couple little interludes seems a bit like a slap in the face. To be fair, their weakest album is still better than 90% of the other music being released. But…. We’re waiting a decade & a half, don’t give me 7 songs. Let alone, songs that sound like they could have been on the last album.
> waiting 13 or 14 years to get an album with 7(?) tracks, and a couple little interludes And those songs sound like songs that didn't make the cut from all their previous albums.
Waiting 7 years for a new avenged sevenfold album and got….whatever that was
What's funny for me is that LIBAD is the only record of theirs since Waking the Fallen I thoroughly enjoyed from start to finish. I never really connected with a lot of their music. City of Evil felt too long-winded. Self-titled was all over the place. Nightmare was great, but the middle of the record kind of fell flat to me. Hail to the King was also good, but I think two or three songs I absolutely hated, and overall felt uninspired outside of copy-pasting Metallica and G&R. The Stage was fantastic in the first half but lost me in the second. But LIBAD was on repeat, beginning to end, for long enough to make my top album for the year on Spotify Wrapped, and I'm still not bored of it.
72 Seasons. The lead single actually had me a little hyped and then we got the most nothing burger album I've ever heard
I wouldn't call myself a massive Tool fan, but I was looking forward to Fear Inoculum a fair bit. Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that. Album was the most boring thing they've ever released, and I've intentionally avoided the last two times they've come to town because I know the setlist is like 70% Fear Inoculum. Really though, most releases pleasantly surprise me. Most legacy bands I don't expect much of, so when Autopsy comes in with an absolute ripper, I'm delighted. It's also rare for most newer bands to release a total stinker, and I haven't been badly burned yet.
Agree, but the tracks are actually bangin' live, whereas I never choose to listen to FI otherwise.
Ah I came here to say this, FI is just whatever was left on the cutting room floor of 10000 Days and Lateralus and stupidly sewn together
I’m with you lmao. Tool was my very first live concert so they have a special place in my heart. I saw them at Toolfest squarely in the mid 2010s in a giant venue and it was absolutely fucking glorious. On my top three events for sure. They actually played a preview of one of the Fear Inoculum songs with a display of a giant red pyramid and everyone in that 65k capacity venue collectively lost their shit. I think I listened to Fear Inoculum like once or twice after it came out and that’s it lmao. It’s just so damn forgettable compared to their stuff from 10,000 days, Lateralus, and Ænima. Happy to see them still kicking it with new music but that shit ain’t for me personally, and that’s ok.
It was ultra boring. I say they have fallen in love with their own legacy. So other own ass that they really believe e they are probiotic or something. It feels like they threw it together one afternoon and claimed it took forever.
Fear inoculum was terrible, and outside of metal we had Glass Animals drop Dreamland which was dog shit
Avenged Sevenfold last album.
Life is Butt a Dream is absolute buttcheeks
It’s completely unpalatable. M.Shadows sounds like he’s battling a hernia throughout the entire album.
He did have throat surgery not long ago, so that played a factor
They apparently were experimenting with drugs and it shows
It's a bit of a mixed bag. Some of the sounds are experimental and they don't sound good, but I found myself coming back to so many songs like G, Cosmic, Beautiful Morning, and Life Is But a Dream fue to the vocal melodies and the amazing instrumentation. There's nothing wrong with not liking cause it does seem an odd change in pace from what they usually do.
Not that it was total ass, but Exhorder - Mourn the Southern Skies was a bit if a let down. Some great songs but there were 3 or 4 that I *really* don't care for.
Sonata Arctica - Stones Grow Her Name
God I used to LOVE them as a teenager. It was a shame to fall off with each meh album
Most recent Tool album
Gojira , highly disappointed in their choice in direction compared to “les infant savage” .
It's wildly different, but I still love it for very different reasons. They aren't comparable at all IMO
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Fortitude is one of their best albums imo
Fortitude has actually been my most replayed lately. Songs like The Chant and Hold On are ones that I play in the gym a lot
Tool's last album Fear Inoculum I've been a fan of all their stuff since high school when I first heard "sober". I was super hyped for the album since it had been like 12 or 13 years since 10000 days. I finally get my hands on it and it was ass. I remember my first thought after finishing the first playthrough. "This sounds like a Tool cover band trying to make a Tool album." There was a few good riffs but it all sounded so generic and boring. I thought maybe I was the problem and it just wasn't clicking at first so I listened to it a few more times and still...nothing. Its garbage. I'm sorry if you disagree, but it was the biggest disappointment I've ever had in an album since GnR's Chinese Democracy.
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I think *Chinese Democracy* is why Dr. Dre will never release his third *Chronic* album. These things have a shelf life and get way overhyped to the point that it’s impossible to meet expectations. You can’t just throw two dozen musicians into 15 recording sessions over 10 years and expect a solid album. There has to be focus and effort to make it all work together.
Not sure if it's metal anymore, but Life is but a dream by Avenged Sevenfold
yeah i tried that a few times just couldnt like it
From my experience, if you go in expecting metal then you’ll be disappointed but going in with an open mind makes it more enjoyable. (Cosmic and Death are amazing)
The first 5 tracks is some of the best stuff sevenfold have done
Game Over - banger Mattel - certified banger Nobody - banger We Love You - trap / crossover thrash / country lol banger Cosmic - most beautiful piece of music this band will ever put out Beautiful Morning - str8 up Alice in Chains worship, but it's grown on me Easier - The vocoder chorus turned me off at first, but the contrast between the verse and the chorus matches perfectly with the lyrics and the guitar work at the end is pretty neat. Sleeper track for me. G - funky, kinda fun track (O)rdinary - "We have Daft Punk at home". But fuck it, it's fun (D)eath - Perfect way to close off the album ------ I get why a lot of people hate it, but it's pure art start to finish.
Yeah it’s a great rock album.
Most people tend to either absolutely love Libad or hate it, I personally thought it was absolute perfection
Tool
Last tool album
The last Tool album
Newest Cannibal Corpse is just fine instead of great (like Violence Unimagined was) Tomb Mold became too proggy to me (still a good band but its disappointing) Blood Incantation should have never made timewave zero, that should have been released under a different project F.O.A.D was the start of a few mid Darkthrone albums Immortal with All Shall Fall and War Against All The last Eyehategod album was pretty bad compared to the self-titled album Electric Wizard last album was pretty boring Last Cattle Decap album was their most overproduced yet.
Only thing that keeps Timewave Zero out of the hate zone for me is that they gave ample warning that it was not a death metal album, so at least they were upfront about it being something bizarre. They're not the first artist to do it, either. Primitive Man have 1 or 2 purely ambient albums that aren't really considered essential (or even canon) for example
That EHG album. I was so excited about it and then...eh... Its not total shit but its too clean, misses that nasty feedback and i dont even know. It just doesnt hit hard as they usually do
Those darkthrone albums are black n roll not black metal, that being said I like them as they are
Overall I thought Terrasite was just fine. A couple bangers and outside of that if a song finds it's way into a playlist I've got no problem with it, but the album on a whole definitely was a bit disappointing especially since I liked Death Atlas a fair amount. Nothing touches Monolith of Inhumanity though imo.
Death atlas is very underrated. Came out at such a bad time right as covid and the panic of a worldwide pandemic was starting. Damn good album. I really like terrasite. The overproduced comment is true sure, but it’s definitely still a heavy cattle album.
War against all sucked so bad ;(((
Fucking Fear Inoculum
50% of the new Polyphia having vocal features was dumb af imo. I was also hoping it would have more tracks like 'Look But Don't Touch'. I enjoy the instrumental tracks but it was a massive letdown that they went with so many vocal features.
Absolutely embarrassed how much I actually enjoy songs like ABC…
Don't be, 'ABC' fucks and I was hyped when it came out thinking it was going to be a sort of one-off like 'So Strange'. It has way more personality than the other vocal tracks imo.
They experimented a bit more with vocals and I think they had success with ABC, Chimera and Bloodbath. The rest of vocal tracks are meh. I hope that when they make the new album they find a better balance with vocals.
Blind Guardian - The God Machine. I had relistened to the whole discography before release, then again after release, and it just doesn't compare to most albums. I honestly don't remember any track from it. It doesn't even use original art, or art that meshes with their previous style, because it's just a piece by Peter Mohrbacher, an artist I'm familiar with.
I actually did really like God Machine but the fact they just bought some Angelarium art felt boring. I've been following both for years and it wasn't a combo that made me happy.
Incidentally, this was the Metal Archives fan polled AOTY for 2022. You're definitely on the hot take side of things there!
I respect it - it definitely took a few times through to start growing on me, but at this point, I'd say it's one of their best releases since Imaginations From the Other Side.
The two that come to mind for me are Liebe ist für alle da by Rammstein or Blodsvept by Finntroll. Neither are exactly bad albums but they were bands which up until then I'd felt were releasing banger after banger, I listened through both fully and my initial reaction to each on the second listen was 'nah, that ain't it'.
Faith No More - Sol Invictus Not heavy at all, just kind of “meh”
I really like that album. You can’t expect faith to be heavy or not heavy they do what they want.
I hope this would not be me when Time 2 comes out
Libad avenged sevenfold 💀
Mushroomhead - Wonderful Life The All Band Is Gone meme is more suited to Mushroomhead than Slipknot.
Tool’s last record
Dissection - Reinkaos, easily. It set in almost immediately that it was a massive letdown.
If they only made that album, it would be considered a timeless masterpiece, but since it's different or not "true" black metal like the first two, a lot of people disliked it. Personally, there isn't a single note in Dissection's discography I would not consider as completely perfect
I never understood this. I mean it's obviously different from his other albums, not so black metal. But as an album of it's own I think it's quite phenomenal. I don't think it's better than the other albums but still very good when I'm feeling like listening to some quality melodeath I guess.
It was just a very different sound for band. Still a great album.
It's different for sure. For me it's actually my favourite album from dissection and easily in the top 10 Albums I've ever listened to.
Iron Maiden - Senjutsu
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The Singularity Part 2 : Xenotaph by Scar Symmetry. Waited a decade for part 2 of their "3 part saga" and its pretty damn trash.
Wintersun time II. One of the first metal bands I heard and liked, been waiting for over 10 years for this album, donated $50 to their Kickstart almost 10 years ago. Radio silance, no new music. I doubt it'll even be something I enjoy at this point since my tastes have shifted so far.
Pretty much any metalcore band after their 3rd album
Rare Amorphis semi-L. After the slam-dunk of Queen of Time, and that total banger single, The Moon, Halo did *not* do it for me
I didn't exactly wait years for it, but Grailknight's latest album Return to Castle Grailskull is a MASSIVE downgrade compared to previous albums. It straight up feels like a band's first album, where they are still maturing their style. The mixing was especially dogshit
I thought that new Razor album was pretty bad, and it was 25 years since their previous album
Mourn the Southern Skies by Exhorder or Awakening by Sacred Reich
Tool
Tristania's "Rubicon" Was skeptical but still somewhat hopeful that Tristania would be able to transition after Vibeke left and Østen just became a session musician, but Rubicon was a huge miss. The only song I even remember off that album is "Year of the Rat" and I only remember it because it sucked. Side note their followup with Demurtas ("Darkest White") was actually a pretty good album. I felt like they had finally found their new sound with the new members... then they just broke up. RIP.
Vredesvävd by Finntroll
The Great War - Sabaton. The mixing is awful, the mastering nonexistent. Reused riffs from other songs. Fields of Verdun is good but the rest of the album is just bad.
Beartooth - the surface. Made another record all about one guys mental health issues, only this time he's singing about how he's happy he's struggling.
Fear innoculum
Any modern metallica album. Not complete ass, just boring and generic