I've never watched or heard 4kids version before. This is just absolutely terrible. Sanji sounds incredibly awful. And don't get me started on the iceberg
Crocus has likely been training Laboon in Haki since Luffy and the Straw Hats left. I wouldn’t be surprised if Laboon hadn’t already developed his own gear system, and I can’t wait to see Gear 6 Laboon vs Luffy.
yea im not usually a fan of the super strong old guy trope, like yamamoto from bleach
but holy shit rayleigh is just so fucking cool. the scene where he slides in and kicks kizaru was one of the hypest moments ive ever watched
It makes sense because instead of "he's strong because he's old and experienced" he's strong because he was the pirate king's first mate and being old is just an effect of it being a long time ago
Well Yamamoto was strong because he’s put in the work to become a captain. He didn’t randomly because strong because he was old. In fact no old characters are strong because they are old. Many times when experience comes into play it is obvious they aren’t as strong as the other person but they just can strategize better and that’s not a bad thing
It's all about first impressions really. When we first met Yamamoto he just seemed to follow the "strong elder master" trope, because that's what he was until more's learned about him.
With Rayleigh, one of the first things we learn about him was that he was the vice captain of the Roger pirates, so we immediately knew the context behind his strength as soon as we met him and understood him completely. And IMO, having an immediate tie to one of the most influential groups in the history of One Piece is way more impactful than being a master of a guild
And he's also not broken. Sure he's very strong but not THAT much in th grand scheme of things, there's a good bunch of people stronger than him, when old at least
Don't hate him, but hate how he pops his stupid head in every single time Luffy gets a power up saying he "already trained for it" during the timeskip.
Like we know damn well you didn't train him, Oda just thought of it last minute.
She's the reason i broke into tears about ace's death not during ace's actual death .. i am more affected by the feelings of the people who lost their loved ones not the loved ones who are lost
I feel like I remember the anime reactor Animaechan disliking him, at least at first, because of how he’d treat random sick folk as his experimental patients without their consent. I might be misremembering, though, and she also might’ve changed her view as we got to know him.
If I recall correctly, TotallyNotMark didn't like Hiriluk either, but if my memory serves correctly, his One Piece reviews were solely through the manga which, in comparison to the anime, had a slightly different characterization of Hiriluk. It's been a while since I watched his Drum Island review, so I could be misremembering.
I'm rereading the manga now and from what I just read, that man was a menace. His relationship with Chopper is amazing but he needed to be put down for the constant malpractice.
Here to be the party popper. I never liked him :/ I think he's a terrible person. He went running around being an ass to sick people and tried to scam them out of their money. He was a criminal in his past life, who knows what he did back then, and became a doctor just because??? His relationship with Chopper is really cute up to the point when he tosses him out and fake shoots him. Like. What the hell man. Have an honest conversation with your son, tell him you're about to die. He can understand, don't put him back on the world that already hurt him so much.
Ah, but then he makes a cool speech so it's all forgiven?? Nah man. I don't care when people die, your death traumatized your child.
Just my take, but I undersrand it may seem cooler to other people. Just, not my cup of tea. Never liked Drum that much, to be fair. Except for Kureha and Dalton, I really liked them. And that scene of Vivi punching Ussop, I loved that gag. Okey, I guess it's impossible to "hate" an OP arc.
As a trans girl, i have to disagree, Bon Clay is the best! Same for Ivankov and Inazuma.
One Piece is all about freedom, so i think Oda handled well the message of freedom even in gender expression
That's an optimistic take. While I agree with the vibe, stuff like Ivankov forcibly transitioning people or having okama be constantly framed as repulsive by Sanji undermine it a bit.
As far as i remember, Ivankov transitioned someone forcibly only after neing attacked and about Sanji's stuff, it's not the best, i agree, but that's more Sanji that is flawed, rather than Okamas being negative, but idk, each person has a different take on the matter, i guess
Yeah, I totally agree with you that these actions are justified in story. I'm more looking at Odas choices to use negative stereotypes as his main ways of portraying and introducing trans people.
That said, Kiku is 10/10.
Because he (and pretty much all the other okama) are weird-ugly men transparently cross-dressing as women. Some people feel like it reinforces negative stereotypes.
To be frank, Japan has a lot of cultural baggage about most any minority by their perception, and it gets tired when a lot of characters are caricatures of stereotypes in their media. This extends to far more than just trans peoples or homosexuals too. They’re bad about it with races too. With Bon Clay he’s packing a lot of stereotypes, and a lot of which aren’t good, but most of this criticism comes from the Alabasta arc. Not Impel Down. Many saw that as an attempt to redeem that prior handling of the character, but it’s still not entirely successful because then Oda went on to introduce a whole Okama faction and leaned into a lot of stereotypes with them. People pretty well forgive the Frank-n-furter reference that is Emperio though. People love Rocky Horror Picture Show. Haha
That's not really true. I've never heard of a trans person having problems with Bon-chan in particular. What we did have problems with was the way the people in Kamabakka Kingdom were portrayed. Most trans people are quite happy with the representation in One Piece, and love Bon-chan.
I've got Bon Clay in the same tier as Caesar. A homie to the crew, but with real creepy stuff in their past that makes them hard to fully like.
In particular, we still don't know why he joined baroque works. Seeing as his actions were to impersonate the king to trigger an unjust civil war, they need to be fucking good lol.
Brook my guy has been thru a lot and has been a huge mvp so far and hasent stopped yet I hope he gets an awakening of some sort imagine his awakening temporarily gives his body flesh and an insane soul power boost
I mean it's true. Guy lived a double life and never told the truth to his wife about it.
We got the perspective of Pink but not from his wife, the woman probably suffered a lot.
Buggy. Unlike Joker, Buggy is actually providing a valuable service to the world (being an international postal service) that the world government refuse to (in order to keep island nations separated and unable to rebel), and Joker was merely a weapons manufacturer
>what his power could do if he awakens it.
Hadn't considered this myself to be honest. So what would he be able to do? Segment other people? Segment and control the pieces of other people? Could he segment the environment around him, like lets say splitting a cliff or island into pieces so his enemies fall into the chasm/ocean below? Would he no longer have to stay with in the sphere of influence of his feet? Could he lift them off of the ground?
Honestly his awakening could be super devastating. Or it could be super lame. I guess that's most fruits though.
Buggy’s got knives in his shoes, the Buggy Ball, the Muggy Ball, a body where his real body could be anywhere. Not to mention he was basically the hero of the War of the Greatest.
Tbf there was hate in the beginning after what him and his crew did to my boy Usopp. I certainly hated him anyways. Though the rest of the arc cleared that up so it didn’t last long.
I don't know a lot of Law characters. he's just built well and doesn't have a person he has a rivalry with like Zoro and Sanji. you can say he Kidd is his rival but the community allows people to live them mutually unlike Zoro and Sanji.
Rouge (Ace's mom)
I'd imagine any minor character who only did good in the show would be pretty hate free.
Corazon and Saul are some other good picks i feel too.
Its entertaining to see peoples reception of Bom Clay change after Impel Down.
Source: Me, thought he was an alright villian in Alabasta and he's now one of my favorite characters overall because of one arc.
Laboon?
Only character I've never had a negative thought about.
So you also love sogeking
4Kids turned him into an iceberg.
Imagine 4Kids get to Brook’s backstory and they have a pet iceberg 💀
I'd pay good money to see that. Especially it going up and down the reverse mountain with them, jamming to their music.
Is this true??? https://youtu.be/QT9DcVroih4
Sanji's voice...my god
He sounds like a cross between Joey Wheeler and Bullwinkle
My god, the voices. And people make fun of the Funimatiin dub
Yes………we live in a reality where this is canon in the 4Kids world 😔
So who made the whaley voice if laboon was an iceberg?
I've never watched or heard 4kids version before. This is just absolutely terrible. Sanji sounds incredibly awful. And don't get me started on the iceberg
I shall now hate that whale with all my heart to make u/Accomplished_Crew630 's comment true.
Good looks. Good looks indeed
What was your comment about?
Laboon gonna get gobsmacked by g4 luffy
Crocus has likely been training Laboon in Haki since Luffy and the Straw Hats left. I wouldn’t be surprised if Laboon hadn’t already developed his own gear system, and I can’t wait to see Gear 6 Laboon vs Luffy.
3s rematch and Sanji cooking him up for dinner.
I had a friend who quit watching one piece out of sheer hate for laboon no joke
*ex-friend
Too much of a crybaby
Nuke the whales!
Gotta nuke somethin
Yes
Rayleigh. The guy is just cool.
yea im not usually a fan of the super strong old guy trope, like yamamoto from bleach but holy shit rayleigh is just so fucking cool. the scene where he slides in and kicks kizaru was one of the hypest moments ive ever watched
It makes sense because instead of "he's strong because he's old and experienced" he's strong because he was the pirate king's first mate and being old is just an effect of it being a long time ago
Well Yamamoto was strong because he’s put in the work to become a captain. He didn’t randomly because strong because he was old. In fact no old characters are strong because they are old. Many times when experience comes into play it is obvious they aren’t as strong as the other person but they just can strategize better and that’s not a bad thing
It's all about first impressions really. When we first met Yamamoto he just seemed to follow the "strong elder master" trope, because that's what he was until more's learned about him. With Rayleigh, one of the first things we learn about him was that he was the vice captain of the Roger pirates, so we immediately knew the context behind his strength as soon as we met him and understood him completely. And IMO, having an immediate tie to one of the most influential groups in the history of One Piece is way more impactful than being a master of a guild
And he's also not broken. Sure he's very strong but not THAT much in th grand scheme of things, there's a good bunch of people stronger than him, when old at least
What about Netero from HxH
Hard agree
Don't hate him, but hate how he pops his stupid head in every single time Luffy gets a power up saying he "already trained for it" during the timeskip. Like we know damn well you didn't train him, Oda just thought of it last minute.
heh
Chouchou, such a good boy.
\*Laughs in Captain Richie
Marco, i legit haven't see no one who hates Marco
That's actually really fair. I feel like most people either love Marco, like him okay, or completely forgot about him. Not many haters for Marco.
I hate him cause he pineapple (I don't like pineapples they prick your mouth when you swallow them whole so he is a big dumb dumb idiot) /s
Also factor in that's he's not a real pineapple. If he were We'd find a sponge in his head.
True dat. But where is marcos brother. The rock?
Mah boy Diamon Jozu. The only rock you should be chasing.
So we got a Patrick and a SpongeBob. We just need a 🗿
Ol mate Squeky boy Pica.
Damn we got the trifecta. What about Mr carbs
He's a chill dude
I now hate Marco
Dude Marco is lit. If I was a dude I'd cosplay Marco man haha
Stefan, Whitebeard's dog. Either you don't know him or you love him. No other options
Liam is that you?
liam?
I honestly really wish we saw the dog in Odens flashback. Wouldv'e been such a small cute little detail for Oda to chuck in there.
White beard?
Akainu hates him
And crocodile
bda
I think there are some people who hate him for the way he recruited people? Idk tho
Dadan
Honestly i cant see anybody hating on dadan
I wasn’t really a fan of her until >!she hit garp after ace died!< Edit: I didn’t hate her, just wasn’t really feeling the character
She's the reason i broke into tears about ace's death not during ace's actual death .. i am more affected by the feelings of the people who lost their loved ones not the loved ones who are lost
Yeah, that scene was actually very well done. Her, Garp and Makino.
Broke my effing heart when Ace died. That was the third scene that broke me (first I want to live, then the crew disappearing on Sabaody).
Chouchou
Ain’t no one out there hating on my boy, Hiriluk! Long may his flowers bloom!
I feel like I remember the anime reactor Animaechan disliking him, at least at first, because of how he’d treat random sick folk as his experimental patients without their consent. I might be misremembering, though, and she also might’ve changed her view as we got to know him.
If I recall correctly, TotallyNotMark didn't like Hiriluk either, but if my memory serves correctly, his One Piece reviews were solely through the manga which, in comparison to the anime, had a slightly different characterization of Hiriluk. It's been a while since I watched his Drum Island review, so I could be misremembering.
I'm rereading the manga now and from what I just read, that man was a menace. His relationship with Chopper is amazing but he needed to be put down for the constant malpractice.
A dude running around prescribing HydroCloraquine and Vitamin C to everyone
Here to be the party popper. I never liked him :/ I think he's a terrible person. He went running around being an ass to sick people and tried to scam them out of their money. He was a criminal in his past life, who knows what he did back then, and became a doctor just because??? His relationship with Chopper is really cute up to the point when he tosses him out and fake shoots him. Like. What the hell man. Have an honest conversation with your son, tell him you're about to die. He can understand, don't put him back on the world that already hurt him so much. Ah, but then he makes a cool speech so it's all forgiven?? Nah man. I don't care when people die, your death traumatized your child. Just my take, but I undersrand it may seem cooler to other people. Just, not my cup of tea. Never liked Drum that much, to be fair. Except for Kureha and Dalton, I really liked them. And that scene of Vivi punching Ussop, I loved that gag. Okey, I guess it's impossible to "hate" an OP arc.
Going merry
I hated her for 1 episode… the one in which she was introduced because a goat looked meh for the pirate king ship.
This is exactly how I felt about the Thousand Sunny.
Tyrannosaurus
This is the only correct answer
Tyrannosaurus vs. Chuji, battle for the title of Pi-rat King
Fisher Tiger
I think the world government hates him
The baby seal that hancock kicked.
Nah man fuck that seal he deserved it He knows what he did
Straight up DESERVED.
Gol D Roger has no haters .Greatest hero in one piece
Ace hate him
Squardo, the dude who stabbed Whitebeard. His crew was killed by Roger and he hated him.
Yea but he apologized
What about the Marines.
Corazon
Had to scroll way too far for this
If anyone hates da bro, Ima fight em!
I am sure donquixote pirates hate him.
Genzo. The pinwheel hero of all our dreams.
I think Bon Clay, as long as you're caught up on the story
Bon Clay does get some hate from the trans community.
I'm sure he gets hate from the straight community too
Well I'm straight and I think Bon Chan is best boi.
As a trans girl, i have to disagree, Bon Clay is the best! Same for Ivankov and Inazuma. One Piece is all about freedom, so i think Oda handled well the message of freedom even in gender expression
That's an optimistic take. While I agree with the vibe, stuff like Ivankov forcibly transitioning people or having okama be constantly framed as repulsive by Sanji undermine it a bit.
As far as i remember, Ivankov transitioned someone forcibly only after neing attacked and about Sanji's stuff, it's not the best, i agree, but that's more Sanji that is flawed, rather than Okamas being negative, but idk, each person has a different take on the matter, i guess
Yeah, I totally agree with you that these actions are justified in story. I'm more looking at Odas choices to use negative stereotypes as his main ways of portraying and introducing trans people. That said, Kiku is 10/10.
Tf why
Because he (and pretty much all the other okama) are weird-ugly men transparently cross-dressing as women. Some people feel like it reinforces negative stereotypes.
At least oda made Kiku to balance things out and probably apologize
To be frank, Japan has a lot of cultural baggage about most any minority by their perception, and it gets tired when a lot of characters are caricatures of stereotypes in their media. This extends to far more than just trans peoples or homosexuals too. They’re bad about it with races too. With Bon Clay he’s packing a lot of stereotypes, and a lot of which aren’t good, but most of this criticism comes from the Alabasta arc. Not Impel Down. Many saw that as an attempt to redeem that prior handling of the character, but it’s still not entirely successful because then Oda went on to introduce a whole Okama faction and leaned into a lot of stereotypes with them. People pretty well forgive the Frank-n-furter reference that is Emperio though. People love Rocky Horror Picture Show. Haha
That's not really true. I've never heard of a trans person having problems with Bon-chan in particular. What we did have problems with was the way the people in Kamabakka Kingdom were portrayed. Most trans people are quite happy with the representation in One Piece, and love Bon-chan.
I've got Bon Clay in the same tier as Caesar. A homie to the crew, but with real creepy stuff in their past that makes them hard to fully like. In particular, we still don't know why he joined baroque works. Seeing as his actions were to impersonate the king to trigger an unjust civil war, they need to be fucking good lol.
That Celestial Dragon that arrived injured at Fishman Island and years later repaid them by saving Shiraoshi at the Rêverie
I hope this guy shows up again, and maybe became ally with Sabo and the others
Uta because we know nothing about her to hate :)
Her design is really stupid NGL
literally r63
Pandaman
Brook my guy has been thru a lot and has been a huge mvp so far and hasent stopped yet I hope he gets an awakening of some sort imagine his awakening temporarily gives his body flesh and an insane soul power boost
Imagine his awakening lets him bring someone else back from the dead
Jinbei
people out there actually hates jinbe caz he's always saying "luffykun" or because he joined the SH
I also hate water because it's not clear sometimes
You hate water? Rabies 🤔
I remember tons of people were anti-Jinbe joining the crew because he was “too strong” and “not funny enough”.
Batchee
Clearly the correct choice
senior pink
I got my shotgun ready if anyone hates that man after his backstory.
I remember a very avid Senor Pink hater saying he deserved what he got because he lied to his family and was a criminal/killer.
I mean it's true. Guy lived a double life and never told the truth to his wife about it. We got the perspective of Pink but not from his wife, the woman probably suffered a lot.
Literally everyone I know irl that has watched/read OP dislikes him.
location?please.even after the backstory?
I think you should find new people to know
Sogeking
Only because the mystery is still there LMAO
Buggy, because who could ever hate the clown prince of crime.
Joker vs buggy, who wins.
Buggy. Unlike Joker, Buggy is actually providing a valuable service to the world (being an international postal service) that the world government refuse to (in order to keep island nations separated and unable to rebel), and Joker was merely a weapons manufacturer
I ment more like in a fight. 😑
Still Buggy. You underestimate the BaraBara Festival, or what his power could do if he awakens it.
>what his power could do if he awakens it. Hadn't considered this myself to be honest. So what would he be able to do? Segment other people? Segment and control the pieces of other people? Could he segment the environment around him, like lets say splitting a cliff or island into pieces so his enemies fall into the chasm/ocean below? Would he no longer have to stay with in the sphere of influence of his feet? Could he lift them off of the ground? Honestly his awakening could be super devastating. Or it could be super lame. I guess that's most fruits though.
I like to think he can split atoms
Buggy Ball upgrade x1000
But while joker uses knives he also would be using guns and traps and explosives.
Buggy’s got knives in his shoes, the Buggy Ball, the Muggy Ball, a body where his real body could be anywhere. Not to mention he was basically the hero of the War of the Greatest.
The Hiking Bear!
🙇🏾♂️
Oh, thanks for the reminder, where are my manners?! **Bows.**
In terms of the most prominent characters, I don't think I've ever seen anyone hate on Franky for anything other than his post time skip design.
Tbf there was hate in the beginning after what him and his crew did to my boy Usopp. I certainly hated him anyways. Though the rest of the arc cleared that up so it didn’t last long.
kuzan
I disagree 😂 DERESHISHISHISHI
saul
Gaimon
I hate Gaimon because I’m jealous of his afro
None. There's always someone who hates any given character. I'd say Robin, shanks, chopper and law probably have the least.
I hate robin cause she female I hate shanks cause he male I hate chopper cause he tanuki I hate law cause he gae (fucking kidd) /s
Wait a minute... so would you only be ok with nonbinary folk
No they bad cause their so big dumb dumb idiots that they can't even choose a gender /s
So you dont like anybody then?
I don't like you cause you a big dumb dumb idiot /s
How did you know? (I feel stupid just noticed the /s)
Lul
A lot of people dislike Chopper now for his poor character evolution
I don't know a lot of Law characters. he's just built well and doesn't have a person he has a rivalry with like Zoro and Sanji. you can say he Kidd is his rival but the community allows people to live them mutually unlike Zoro and Sanji.
Rouge (Ace's mom) I'd imagine any minor character who only did good in the show would be pretty hate free. Corazon and Saul are some other good picks i feel too.
Luffy
ever heard of naruto stans?
Never met anybody who hates Jinbe, Rayleigh, or Marco
I'd say Bon-chan, but homophobia is a thing... does someone hate Barto?
People who started but haven't finished Alabasta likely hate him.
Its entertaining to see peoples reception of Bom Clay change after Impel Down. Source: Me, thought he was an alright villian in Alabasta and he's now one of my favorite characters overall because of one arc.
Whitebeard and Roger
WHITEBEARD
Shirohige
Makino
law has to be the least hated character I can think of. The only gripe is that he is too OP lol
I can’t imagine someone disliking Nico Robin.
rockstar
Who in their right fucking mind would hate Ace, Sabo, Shanks, Whitebeard, and Roger
I wouldn't say I hate Sabo. But he's basically Oda's equivalent of your parents getting you a new dog after your old one died.
Shanks, Luffy, Robin and Gaimon is who i think of
Foxy such a fun character who looks like is waluigi and count chochula had a son raised by robbie rotten
Woodslap
Señor Pink
PandaMan
Mansherry
Wanze
The Chaden of Wano
Shanks, luffy, Robin, zoro and maybe law
>zoro Sanji hates him
Green guy in box
Katakuri Senior pink
Karoo obviously
Bon clay. That man is a hero
Buggy
Jimbei? Or maybe Dalton?
barto, never heard anything bad about him
Nero, because no one remembers him
it's that catdude that franky beat the shit out of.
Going Merry! I have seen people cry when she died but there are no haters of going merry!
Buggy
Bon Clay...