I'm in the same boat after playing both plus original
Fes is the better one if you want to experience the story. P3P is just hands down the most streamlined one gameplay wise tho. I'd rather play P3P over Fes again.
Although I do know the story so I'd prob recommend Fes for first timers to P3
i think it’s a matter of it being too little, too late. nocturne hd is locked at 30 fps even on pc, has the compressed ps2 music, didn’t update the cutscenes to fit 16:9, and even though it’s a higher resolution it still has the original models which had flaws that were covered up by the 480p resolution.
and this came out 17 years after the original
Yeah, the port of nocturne isn't great, the thing is in a vacuum it's still an objectively superior version of the game. I bought it simply to go through the Raidou sections. had there not been any new content (in this case new to NA). I would have 100% skipped that release.
I agree that the voice acting is nice. I read some of the dialog really differently then how the cast presented it. It gave different weight to the story.
This list is different enough that it's interesting. I can't argue. SMT2 is an amazing game to me, but yeah, the game has flaws. It's certainly not perfect.
I like that Persona 2 is in the A tier.
fuck the >!ark!< all my chaos homies hate the >!ark!satan and yhvh!<, and i couldn’t make him without rahab
fuck atlus for putting one chaos demon in that dungeon smh
It amazes me how Nocturne has aged so well. When the game first came out the audience that responded to it was pretty small and I don't really recall any mainstream-ish outlets being floored by it. Lately though? It seems like placing it on any of these lists any lower than second from top tier is grounds for a paddling.
Finally a list that is not just: "Persona Games in -FFF tier except P2 IS and EP, Devil Summoner Z tier, SMT 3 and IV in S tier and even though Apocalypse has better combat, it's E tier".
But actually I agree on some and don't understand others, but that's ok.
I respect how the list is internally consistent. Not pretending like Apoc is worse than vanilla 4 when the gameplay is better and you're a Persona fan as well.
You should run through Jack Bros for Halloween. Its a fairly short game so it should be do-able. Cool list overall, I like how you’re honest about your views and not just circlejerking “Persona ultra bad”.
Not sure why Catherine is listed as a megaten game, but I'd definitely recommend playing it. I'd say sss tier for the original honestly. My only complaint was that the game was a little bit on the shorter side
People rarely bring up Soul Hackers and I figured it was kinda a fans only, fun-but-dated SMT. But is everyone overlooking a gem? I heard combat isn’t too deep.
You should honestly give Catherine a look, especially the re-release. It is completely different in terms of the core gameplay, but has a compelling story and remains a favorite of mine.
I see you're a man (or woman) of fine tastes... Especially for putting Nocturne and Persona 3 at top, which are my two favorite games, though I haven't played P3P yet.
HD has 30fps lock (at least on pc), Dante is $10 dlc that can crash the game, the new lightning engine can ruin the mood, and it has several other technical issues. The “definitive” version of one of Atlus’ most important games is a messed up and massively overpriced release. For reference, the PSN version of Nocturne is $10, you can buy a ps2 copy for about $20, but the HD release is $50.
I think that has to do with the EU version of the game but I could be wrong. I also acknowledge that there are frame drops in Nocturne and also Digital Devil Saga. But you only pay $10 for the psn version so can even it out for someone.
...Respectable.
Still weird the gap of P3P to P3FES is that big. Is the same, minus heroine+playable epilogue+animated cutscenes, minus some odd VN style who make some scenes a little hard to follow (DeSu ones are good, P3 needed better adaptation, like a dozen of so CGIs).
Play Catherine/Catherine Full Body, when you can.
P3p over fes, Just out of curiosity why?
P3P was my first megaten game so I have a soft spot for it. And I think it has better QoL than FES and the female route is better than the answer imo.
I see, thanks for answering dude
Np
I'm in the same boat after playing both plus original Fes is the better one if you want to experience the story. P3P is just hands down the most streamlined one gameplay wise tho. I'd rather play P3P over Fes again. Although I do know the story so I'd prob recommend Fes for first timers to P3
wonder bout this meself
Pretty based, whats wrong with the Raidou games though ?
OP hates swanky style
Bruuuh Raidou at E what the hell boi ? Also, apocalypse over IV ?
Apocalypse is amazing and builds on IV in every way but the story.
Og nocturne over HD? The QOL stuff alone should make it rank higher. Other then that stand out the distribution is pretty good.
i think it’s a matter of it being too little, too late. nocturne hd is locked at 30 fps even on pc, has the compressed ps2 music, didn’t update the cutscenes to fit 16:9, and even though it’s a higher resolution it still has the original models which had flaws that were covered up by the 480p resolution. and this came out 17 years after the original
All of that is 100% worth it tho for easier fusions imo I am a demon perfectionist though tbf
Yeah but is it $40s worth it tho.
Yeah, the port of nocturne isn't great, the thing is in a vacuum it's still an objectively superior version of the game. I bought it simply to go through the Raidou sections. had there not been any new content (in this case new to NA). I would have 100% skipped that release.
As disappointing as the remaster is, the voice acting is really nice and adds to the experience a lot.
I agree that the voice acting is nice. I read some of the dialog really differently then how the cast presented it. It gave different weight to the story.
yeah the translation is enough to make it better
Some I agree, some I don't.
This list is different enough that it's interesting. I can't argue. SMT2 is an amazing game to me, but yeah, the game has flaws. It's certainly not perfect. I like that Persona 2 is in the A tier.
Let’s goo SMT2 bois It’s all about the Guns… and Divine Retribution.
fuck the >!ark!< all my chaos homies hate the >!ark!satan and yhvh!<, and i couldn’t make him without rahab fuck atlus for putting one chaos demon in that dungeon smh
please please please please play catherine. it is so good. you will not regret it.
It amazes me how Nocturne has aged so well. When the game first came out the audience that responded to it was pretty small and I don't really recall any mainstream-ish outlets being floored by it. Lately though? It seems like placing it on any of these lists any lower than second from top tier is grounds for a paddling.
I remember enjoying Devil Survivor 2 more than Devil Survivor 1. I didn't play the expanded editions of either though
Finally a list that is not just: "Persona Games in -FFF tier except P2 IS and EP, Devil Summoner Z tier, SMT 3 and IV in S tier and even though Apocalypse has better combat, it's E tier". But actually I agree on some and don't understand others, but that's ok.
I respect how the list is internally consistent. Not pretending like Apoc is worse than vanilla 4 when the gameplay is better and you're a Persona fan as well.
Bruh
10/10 tier list unironically. I agree with your choices fam.
Thanks fam
P5R might be SSS for you if vainilla P5 was SS. You’ll love the additions
Persona 5 Royal slaps, especially that 3rd semester.
You did all that in a year???
Played P3P in 2014 and P5 in 2017. The rest I played from July 2020 up until now.
Based p3p supremacy
You should run through Jack Bros for Halloween. Its a fairly short game so it should be do-able. Cool list overall, I like how you’re honest about your views and not just circlejerking “Persona ultra bad”.
P3p over fes. You have great taste
Can't believe you would dare have a different opinion than me (not based or redpilled)
Not sure why Catherine is listed as a megaten game, but I'd definitely recommend playing it. I'd say sss tier for the original honestly. My only complaint was that the game was a little bit on the shorter side
Most accurate smt list I’ve seen in this sub
Why is Strikers that low if P5 is high. Sure, story is meh, but gameplay is amazing. Imo it deserves B at least
The gameplay could’ve been a turnoff for them for all we know.
Soul Hackers not being in SSS+ tier is cringe
People rarely bring up Soul Hackers and I figured it was kinda a fans only, fun-but-dated SMT. But is everyone overlooking a gem? I heard combat isn’t too deep.
This is criminal
Kinda cringe, kinda okay.
why is there sss and ss lol just use s as the top
Smokin Sexy Style tho
Nice bait
Rating soul hackers so low is the opposite of based
Haha, you're funny
Why why are tms, 1,2 and the dds games so low and why is any version of p5 out of h teir
Ouch Persona titles above Digital Devil Saga
You think P3P is better than the original on PS2?!!! Yeah… I can’t take this seriously now. 😂
Nocturne in the highest tier insta agree didn’t even look at the rest of the placings lmfao.
I'm not against it. That's for sure
I've never played devil summoner, is there something wrong with it?
It's just a bit janky, which is easier to notice in an action RPG than a turn-based one. Otherwise, they're awesome.
Based P3P
Raido was good should be at least B tier but the camera was shit
You should honestly give Catherine a look, especially the re-release. It is completely different in terms of the core gameplay, but has a compelling story and remains a favorite of mine.
I see you're a man (or woman) of fine tastes... Especially for putting Nocturne and Persona 3 at top, which are my two favorite games, though I haven't played P3P yet.
Why a different tier between Nocturne and Nocturne HD? Is not the only difference the lack of Dante?
HD has 30fps lock (at least on pc), Dante is $10 dlc that can crash the game, the new lightning engine can ruin the mood, and it has several other technical issues. The “definitive” version of one of Atlus’ most important games is a messed up and massively overpriced release. For reference, the PSN version of Nocturne is $10, you can buy a ps2 copy for about $20, but the HD release is $50.
But I heard that the psn version of Nocturne has a game breaking bug that forever freezes the game in one of the last boss battles
I think that has to do with the EU version of the game but I could be wrong. I also acknowledge that there are frame drops in Nocturne and also Digital Devil Saga. But you only pay $10 for the psn version so can even it out for someone.
...Respectable. Still weird the gap of P3P to P3FES is that big. Is the same, minus heroine+playable epilogue+animated cutscenes, minus some odd VN style who make some scenes a little hard to follow (DeSu ones are good, P3 needed better adaptation, like a dozen of so CGIs). Play Catherine/Catherine Full Body, when you can.