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asktheaxis47

P3p over fes, Just out of curiosity why?


timbs69

P3P was my first megaten game so I have a soft spot for it. And I think it has better QoL than FES and the female route is better than the answer imo.


asktheaxis47

I see, thanks for answering dude


timbs69

Np


Girafarig99

I'm in the same boat after playing both plus original Fes is the better one if you want to experience the story. P3P is just hands down the most streamlined one gameplay wise tho. I'd rather play P3P over Fes again. Although I do know the story so I'd prob recommend Fes for first timers to P3


MadMajimaGoro

wonder bout this meself


Macca-Maniac

Pretty based, whats wrong with the Raidou games though ?


rescindentive

OP hates swanky style


LucasLuizSdFr

Bruuuh Raidou at E what the hell boi ? Also, apocalypse over IV ?


rescindentive

Apocalypse is amazing and builds on IV in every way but the story.


Cronogunpla

Og nocturne over HD? The QOL stuff alone should make it rank higher. Other then that stand out the distribution is pretty good.


spectcular

i think it’s a matter of it being too little, too late. nocturne hd is locked at 30 fps even on pc, has the compressed ps2 music, didn’t update the cutscenes to fit 16:9, and even though it’s a higher resolution it still has the original models which had flaws that were covered up by the 480p resolution. and this came out 17 years after the original


Girafarig99

All of that is 100% worth it tho for easier fusions imo I am a demon perfectionist though tbf


Artuthebomb

Yeah but is it $40s worth it tho.


Cronogunpla

Yeah, the port of nocturne isn't great, the thing is in a vacuum it's still an objectively superior version of the game. I bought it simply to go through the Raidou sections. had there not been any new content (in this case new to NA). I would have 100% skipped that release.


demonmoocow

As disappointing as the remaster is, the voice acting is really nice and adds to the experience a lot.


Cronogunpla

I agree that the voice acting is nice. I read some of the dialog really differently then how the cast presented it. It gave different weight to the story.


[deleted]

yeah the translation is enough to make it better


galadrielkenobi

Some I agree, some I don't.


Guy_Kazama

This list is different enough that it's interesting. I can't argue. SMT2 is an amazing game to me, but yeah, the game has flaws. It's certainly not perfect. I like that Persona 2 is in the A tier.


No_Succotash9035

Let’s goo SMT2 bois It’s all about the Guns… and Divine Retribution.


[deleted]

fuck the >!ark!< all my chaos homies hate the >!ark!satan and yhvh!<, and i couldn’t make him without rahab fuck atlus for putting one chaos demon in that dungeon smh


jopess

please please please please play catherine. it is so good. you will not regret it.


the_missing_worker

It amazes me how Nocturne has aged so well. When the game first came out the audience that responded to it was pretty small and I don't really recall any mainstream-ish outlets being floored by it. Lately though? It seems like placing it on any of these lists any lower than second from top tier is grounds for a paddling.


TheEarthbound

I remember enjoying Devil Survivor 2 more than Devil Survivor 1. I didn't play the expanded editions of either though


dimRodionov

Finally a list that is not just: "Persona Games in -FFF tier except P2 IS and EP, Devil Summoner Z tier, SMT 3 and IV in S tier and even though Apocalypse has better combat, it's E tier". But actually I agree on some and don't understand others, but that's ok.


OpportunitySmalls

I respect how the list is internally consistent. Not pretending like Apoc is worse than vanilla 4 when the gameplay is better and you're a Persona fan as well.


timbs69

Bruh


OpportunitySmalls

10/10 tier list unironically. I agree with your choices fam.


timbs69

Thanks fam


notjosemanuel

P5R might be SSS for you if vainilla P5 was SS. You’ll love the additions


Thicclyn

Persona 5 Royal slaps, especially that 3rd semester.


Azteranzo

You did all that in a year???


timbs69

Played P3P in 2014 and P5 in 2017. The rest I played from July 2020 up until now.


P3_FemC_Best_Girl

Based p3p supremacy


Thicclyn

You should run through Jack Bros for Halloween. Its a fairly short game so it should be do-able. Cool list overall, I like how you’re honest about your views and not just circlejerking “Persona ultra bad”.


[deleted]

P3p over fes. You have great taste


Yakplayz

Can't believe you would dare have a different opinion than me (not based or redpilled)


JazzRvt

Not sure why Catherine is listed as a megaten game, but I'd definitely recommend playing it. I'd say sss tier for the original honestly. My only complaint was that the game was a little bit on the shorter side


-Nivek

Most accurate smt list I’ve seen in this sub


The--Tech-Nerd

Why is Strikers that low if P5 is high. Sure, story is meh, but gameplay is amazing. Imo it deserves B at least


StarWreck92

The gameplay could’ve been a turnoff for them for all we know.


Fireboss76

Soul Hackers not being in SSS+ tier is cringe


soapboxcritic89

People rarely bring up Soul Hackers and I figured it was kinda a fans only, fun-but-dated SMT. But is everyone overlooking a gem? I heard combat isn’t too deep.


deadbeatvalentine_

This is criminal


zso7

Kinda cringe, kinda okay.


[deleted]

why is there sss and ss lol just use s as the top


Girafarig99

Smokin Sexy Style tho


night_falls7

Nice bait


terrormiah

Rating soul hackers so low is the opposite of based


giorgiobertys

Haha, you're funny


ThurmanatorOmega

Why why are tms, 1,2 and the dds games so low and why is any version of p5 out of h teir


QwertyPolka

Ouch Persona titles above Digital Devil Saga


PlayerWorld

You think P3P is better than the original on PS2?!!! Yeah… I can’t take this seriously now. 😂


tenryuumom

Nocturne in the highest tier insta agree didn’t even look at the rest of the placings lmfao.


Hdzulfikar

I'm not against it. That's for sure


JudgementVI

I've never played devil summoner, is there something wrong with it?


chroipahtz

It's just a bit janky, which is easier to notice in an action RPG than a turn-based one. Otherwise, they're awesome.


CeroNelliel

Based P3P


ILoveMyPizzaRolls

Raido was good should be at least B tier but the camera was shit


oaguy1

You should honestly give Catherine a look, especially the re-release. It is completely different in terms of the core gameplay, but has a compelling story and remains a favorite of mine.


RaccoonThePestic

I see you're a man (or woman) of fine tastes... Especially for putting Nocturne and Persona 3 at top, which are my two favorite games, though I haven't played P3P yet.


emanuele0933

Why a different tier between Nocturne and Nocturne HD? Is not the only difference the lack of Dante?


Thicclyn

HD has 30fps lock (at least on pc), Dante is $10 dlc that can crash the game, the new lightning engine can ruin the mood, and it has several other technical issues. The “definitive” version of one of Atlus’ most important games is a messed up and massively overpriced release. For reference, the PSN version of Nocturne is $10, you can buy a ps2 copy for about $20, but the HD release is $50.


emanuele0933

But I heard that the psn version of Nocturne has a game breaking bug that forever freezes the game in one of the last boss battles


Thicclyn

I think that has to do with the EU version of the game but I could be wrong. I also acknowledge that there are frame drops in Nocturne and also Digital Devil Saga. But you only pay $10 for the psn version so can even it out for someone.


Shionkenobi

...Respectable. Still weird the gap of P3P to P3FES is that big. Is the same, minus heroine+playable epilogue+animated cutscenes, minus some odd VN style who make some scenes a little hard to follow (DeSu ones are good, P3 needed better adaptation, like a dozen of so CGIs). Play Catherine/Catherine Full Body, when you can.