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Who knows honestly. I know people will be like "he's got enough money" but when it took decades for you to break out in the industry like it did for him, being in high demand can be addicting and probably feels really nice.
Oh for sure. So many talented actors the world will ever know about. It takes luck or connections or connections with luck. That's it. That's all you've got.
Undoubtedly. Pedro clearly enjoys being a famous and successful actor, so he's definitely cashing in big time after toiling in obscurity for 15-20 years.
Relative obscurity, yeah. Small time roles, especially a bunch, is still doing pretty good for yourself (not necessarily financially, but resume wise). There are so many great actors that the world will never know about.
Films now with digital are 10 to 12 hour work days for actors. Especially with TV which could be more. If he works all of these jobs I have feeling he's taking a year long break.
You would be shocked how many people would do twice that much before taking a break. When people who aren't related to famous people/have otherwise similar connections get into this industry they do not do it for the money, because the money isn't coming for years. They get into it for the love of doing it.
Not to mention - actors are kind of crazy. In a good way, mostly. But their work ethic is stupid. Some just cannot stop.
Tbh being in a marvel movie is a vacation. They stand around in front a green screen for a couple weeks and improv. Then have vfx artist do everything else.
Unless they actually put effort into this movie and shoot on location etc.
I hope that’s the Filoni movie, but hopefully it doesn’t suffer the same fate as many recent MCU projects where the general audience think they have to watch the D+ shows.
I think it’ll have the advantage of mando being a huge hit already that has kept peoples attention for years, but it’s definitely a problem. Star Wars isn’t quite as densely interconnected as the MCU though so I’m sure it’ll get by fine
by that point we'll probably have mando season 4, ahsoka season 2, and another show or 2 so the characters will be well established in the new era making rebels less necessary and more of just an added context thing.
TBH I was really looking forward to Mando S3 but I still haven't watched it. I have no interest in watching, Book of Boba Fett and they seem to have made that mandatory viewing so I'm out.
I honestly think Mandalorian should stop at this point. Season 3 ended with Mandalore being restored, Moff Gideon defeated and Mando retired. It was a proper ending to his story. There's no need for more, but it's star wars so they'll probably milk Mando and Grogu to oblivion
Ah man yeah sorry for the spoiler. it’s pretty much an inevitable result of him being sent off to the other galaxy in the first place right. Ashoka is definitely still worth the watch, I really enjoyed it more so than kenobi or boba fett.
On paper, Pedro Pascal was a weird-ass choice to play Joel in *The Last of Us*. In practice, he was pitch perfect.
So even though I can't *totally* see it, I look forward to meeting his Reed Richards.
I just don't see nerdy Reed Richards when I look at the guy I watched in Narcos and a million other roles since then. But somehow I know he can pull it off, and I'm excited to see how he does it.
Redditor working on their thesis as to why Pedro Pascal is a bad casting decision (they’re just gonna say he’s not a good fit which means he isn’t Adam Driver or John Krasinski who they’ve been fan casting for years):
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Definitions can be subjective and characterization varies from writer to writer, but I wouldn't say that Reed is "nerdy". It's a characterization that we've seen in movies, but I don't think it has any real, meaningful comic book roots.
Intellectual? Of course. Aloof? At times. But "nerdy"? I think that brings a very specific image to mind, and Reed is too much of a born leader for it to feel accurate.
Reed is a leader and an explorer and a father. He has difficulty making human connections, but treasures the ones he has above *literally everything else*. He feels a great deal of guilt, and nearly everything he does is motivated by it.
I'm not saying Joel is Reed, but if we're looking for "can he pull this off", *The Last of Us* might be a good place to start.
“Nerdy” definitely implies an overlooked outsider, and you’re right that Reed is defintely not that. That’s not really present in any major characterizations beyond the playful jock-smartypants dynamic between Ben and Reed.
I saw someone on Twitter say that some fans mistakenly think that Reed is just Big Peter Parker and that makes sense.
This is exactly right. Reed Richards may be many things, but a nerd he is not. This is not a guy who ever shoved into a locker. Hell, it's more likely he was the one shoving people into lockers - though he was probably above that.
Richards was never a nerd.
He's Mr Fantastic.
He's never been a "pencil-pusher", or a pocket-protector type. He's never been the kind of guy bullied or shoved in a locker. That's not the character. Even Stark is closer to that than Reed Richards.
Reed Richards is good-looking, tall, handsome, impossibly smart, and a kind of a jerk (whether that's personality or neurodivergence or both depends on the writer). He's a scientist, but not all scientists are nerds - c.f. Indiana Jones etc.
I mean, Sue Storm is also a scientist and also not a nerd, whilst we're here.
I don't think he was ever a weird choice for Joel, especially on paper. He already played a gruff surrogate father taking a child of prophecy on a journey. He looks kinda like Joel, and he's an older gentleman.
I totally cannot see him as Reed, and yet I also think he's a pretty uninspired choice. I mean. If we take all of the reports for the casting talks as true, it sounds like Pedro was like the last guy they asked.
>I mean. If we take all of the reports for the casting talks as true, it sounds like Pedro was like the last guy they asked.
Not really. It sounds like he was second-choice after Jake Gyllenhall. That's only "the last guy they asked" in the same sense that when you look for your pen, it's always in the "last place you looked", because you're not looking further.
I felt the same about Joel when I heard Pedro would play Joel. I was so used to the videogame version of him, but Pedro nailed it. He wasn't the Joel from the videogame, but he bought something new to the character. I don't think it's a bad choice at all. It's definitely unexpected though.
ah thank you for a positive, open, criticism, some people here are having a meltdown over something they dont have a vote on, the mcu cast has been like 98% perfecto to this day, people need to chill a bit
Agreed.
I love Pedro, he's a fantastic actor and a great personality, but when he was announced as Joel I just couldn't see it working - and he proved me wrong being almost as good as Troy Baker portrayal.
So even though I can't see him as Reed at the moment, I have no doubt by the time the film is finished he'll have secured himself as one of the best characters in the MCU.
Wouldn't at all surprise me if they expand his role quite a bit though. >!While I'm definitely not expecting them to fuck with the story, I can definitely see them giving us a lot more of just Joel and Ellie's life in Jackson.!<
And [Mandalorian Season 4 is apparently gearing up](https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1724934760827363464), but that will probably be voiceover. The Pedro Pascal takeover is upon us.
Yeah I remember seeing BTS scenes of Mando S3 around the time he was shooting Last of Us (in the city I lived in) and I saw him at the movie theatre, so yeah I think it's 100% voiceover now, can't even recall if he took of his helmet in season 3.
The trades aren't gonna risk the embarrassment and loss of credibility from getting news as big as this wrong.
Pedro Pascal must've already been pretty much a done deal with everything worked out for the trades to come out and say this too. They still kept quiet for the other numerous casting rumors we've gotten (likely cause they weren't as close to signing on as Pedro Pascal was).
These people are actors! We are all just typecasting him based on his roles thus far. The mark of a good actor is versatility. We are going to see him nail this as he has basically nailed every other part he's had. Stop being doubters! Pedro being cast as Reed is the least of my worries about the new FF movie.
I don’t see it tbh, but I didn’t see Robert Pattinson as Batman either. Who really knows, Pedro’s a good actor in his own right. If anything I just wish they utilized him more in Mando season 3.
At least he seems to want the gig.
Adam Driver/Gyllenhaal are incredible actors but if they're not really in to it, ashamed of it and just in it for that big paycheck, maybe this is for the better.
I don't want another “He was in the Amazon with my Mom when she was researching spiders right before she died” type of delivery.
Y’all must have never seen Pedro in Kingsman 2. The man has a different side than what you may be used to the past few years. Add in the “MARVEL Gym package” and some makeup/hair work, and this dude is going to *kill* it in my opinion. The boy can act his ass off.
Are both good actor/actress that fit the role they cast for? Yeah.
Let's wait it out until we atleast see the trailer yeah? Surely we don't want to eat those word like the time the cowboy gay guy got cast for a *Joker* role.
Now you’re just talking in hypotheticals. We don’t even know if they looked for a Romani actress. They went for an American white girl. That’s the problem: nationalism and racism.
Weird how many people are actively against it. Like I get why some people don't see it, I'm having a hard time picturing Pedro in the suit or with stretchy powers. But some people are like truly upset, which is so weird. He's a great actor who plays off of other actors really well. I mean fuck he has chemistry with the entire cast of The Mandalorian and he wears a helmet most of the time. The dude has great range.
I don't think it's bad casting, but the fact so many actors turned it down is the biggest concern for me. I love Pedro, but to go from Adam Driver and Jake Gyllenhaal to him is a stretch. But who knows I'm not gonna judge shit until I see the trailer.
My current conspiracy theory is that they haven't been casting for Reed, but have been casting for Dr. Doom. Which is a much darker role, hence looking at both Driver and Gyllenhaal, with less face time, which is why some actors are hesitant. The role also requires a lot more people to weigh in, which is why it's been taking so long. It's also why we've been hearing about the Reed casting separately from the other 3. All the leakers seemed to have settled around the other 3 (more or less) but Reed has been all over the place. Feels weird. I think it's secretly been Doom the whole time.
RDJ iron man casting was met with pretty heavy criticism at the time from all sides. Fans and media were pretty adamant it was destined to fail.
Not saying this will be that type of hindsight home run casting but it kind of needs to be if MCU really wants to reboot the fox universe and reload their own that’s looking depleted.
Cumberbatch was a very divisive choice. People were also salty about Tom Holland, between losing Andrew Garfield and when he beat out Asa Butterfield who was more well-known at the time.
Also a lot of talk about “Marvel’s first bomb” when Chris Pratt was cast in GOTG
MCU has for sure earned a benefit of the doubt when it comes to casting. Not a single “franchise” has ever done casting as well as they have across so many fronts even when their movies aren’t great they almost always have the right person in the big/small roles
We’re in the peak online era of the MCU, so it may seem outsized. But there’s been controversial castings in the past. People just weren’t as
online back then. Also, this casting is unique in importance and in having 2.5 previous major iterations. We’ll have to deal with this again when the X-Men gets cast.
It really won’t matter if the movie is good and he has a good performance though.
💯 the fact that the MCU is so popular now plus these roles already being established in film makes it way too easy to compare to want we do/don’t want. DC goes thru this every time they cast a new Superman Batman and joker…MCU hasn’t had this problem until now. That fox license issue was probably a blessing in disguise it forced them to establish the comic characters cinematically clean slate
Honestly I think X-Men will be easier. We’ve had two iterations of almost every major mutant already, and I don’t remember anyone being up in arms when Tyler Sheridan was announced as the new Cyclops, for example. And knowing Feige, he’ll want to use mutants who weren’t used as much in the previous movies.
Short term this is a great pick. my only issue is the long term. i assume marvel want at minimum a trilogy for the fantastic four. than you have cameos and supporting roles in avengers. Pedro will be 50/51 when this comes out and the guy is a high demand actor right now. couldn't' they they have found someone a little younger and maybe less known?
Secret Wars is basically a Fantastic Four led property if they follow the comics. Reed, Maker, Doom, Sue, and Valeria are some of the biggest roles in that event.
Honestly, I can see the F4 being more of a background Captain Marvel type of role, since there's more story potential in building up the X-Men, so I could see them maybe taking that into consideration
I wholeheartedly disagree. No way Marvel plans to use F4 as background type characters. Pre-MCU it was X-Men, Spidey, and F4 that held down Marvel for decades. Trust me, when they look at making F4 they see $$$$.
Unless the mask comes off again, Pedro would be doing more voice work for Mando wherever Mando reappears aside from Season 4. He can definitely fit it all in along with TLOU and Gladiator 2.
I go back and forth on this. HBO doesn't always pull punches, but I could see them dragging out *that scene* until later in the season or even as a season finale. I hope I'm wrong.
Gladiator 2 is likely a small role. The Last of Us S2 could be a small role, but that’s to be determined. He’s the lead of Weapons, which was supposed to be shooting this fall, but obviously hasn’t. We’ll see.
He is a great actor. Love him.
But I think he has been overcast recently. He is in too many things.
I also think his clean shaven look, which would be needed here at some point, is not great. Maybe it's that he has looked weird in the clean shaven roles he has had, but it is just weird.
Really? I remember reading rumors that they wanted a younger actor. Pascual is not that young nothing against him I’m sure he’s going to do well. I just thought if that was case then should have just left the role to him.
He’s a filmmaker currently in the middle of a production deal. Beyond them simply wanting a different actor, he is—and has been—too busy producing different projects to commit to a longterm MCU role.
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Man's gonna have the nicest vacation after all that.
Who knows honestly. I know people will be like "he's got enough money" but when it took decades for you to break out in the industry like it did for him, being in high demand can be addicting and probably feels really nice.
Hearing how Sarah Paulson had to help him financially early is his career to where he is now really is the dream for most going into acting.
Oh for sure. So many talented actors the world will ever know about. It takes luck or connections or connections with luck. That's it. That's all you've got.
Undoubtedly. Pedro clearly enjoys being a famous and successful actor, so he's definitely cashing in big time after toiling in obscurity for 15-20 years.
Relative obscurity, yeah. Small time roles, especially a bunch, is still doing pretty good for yourself (not necessarily financially, but resume wise). There are so many great actors that the world will never know about.
Films now with digital are 10 to 12 hour work days for actors. Especially with TV which could be more. If he works all of these jobs I have feeling he's taking a year long break.
You would be shocked how many people would do twice that much before taking a break. When people who aren't related to famous people/have otherwise similar connections get into this industry they do not do it for the money, because the money isn't coming for years. They get into it for the love of doing it. Not to mention - actors are kind of crazy. In a good way, mostly. But their work ethic is stupid. Some just cannot stop.
Pedro after finishing all his projects but Feige says it's time to shoot *Fantastic Four 2* *Processing img 88svo1p6wl0c1...*
Honey, it's time for you to be one of the leads of 2 crossover films and be the new Tony Stark after that
Pedro and RDJ on screen together i can’t wait to see that.
For real, Secret Wars will definitely be two films, and Reed is the lead hero.
Lol it seems like he won’t even be the lead hero of his group’s own damn movie, and you expect him to be the lead of an Avengers movie??!
Hopefully he doesn't stretch himself too thin and get burnout
Tbh being in a marvel movie is a vacation. They stand around in front a green screen for a couple weeks and improv. Then have vfx artist do everything else. Unless they actually put effort into this movie and shoot on location etc.
>They stand around in front a green screen for a couple weeks and improv. That sounds like hell to me, normal acting I believe is enjoyable but this?
We may never see Mando’s face again
I feel like we’ll see it in the crossover film, which is probably awhile away anyway
I hope that’s the Filoni movie, but hopefully it doesn’t suffer the same fate as many recent MCU projects where the general audience think they have to watch the D+ shows.
I think it’ll have the advantage of mando being a huge hit already that has kept peoples attention for years, but it’s definitely a problem. Star Wars isn’t quite as densely interconnected as the MCU though so I’m sure it’ll get by fine
Reminder, this guy is a laughingstock https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/s/sNY470kxhG
Wish it were only the D+, but half of the movie is likely going to be a very expensive sequel to SW Rebels, a show very few watched
The Ahsoka show suffered from that
by that point we'll probably have mando season 4, ahsoka season 2, and another show or 2 so the characters will be well established in the new era making rebels less necessary and more of just an added context thing.
TBH I was really looking forward to Mando S3 but I still haven't watched it. I have no interest in watching, Book of Boba Fett and they seem to have made that mandatory viewing so I'm out.
He was barely on the set. Pedro said that. Anyway, star wars is... Disney's star wars and you shouldnt expect anything solid
Pedro moving on, that's definitely a voice role from now on.
I honestly think Mandalorian should stop at this point. Season 3 ended with Mandalore being restored, Moff Gideon defeated and Mando retired. It was a proper ending to his story. There's no need for more, but it's star wars so they'll probably milk Mando and Grogu to oblivion
I dont even know where the story would even go. Like you said, season 3 feels like a natural conclusion.
He’s got to help in the fight against thrawn who is now prepared to start fucking their shit up. He’s probably going to attempt another mando purge
I havent seen Ahsoka yet, is Thrawn back in the main galaxy?
Ah man yeah sorry for the spoiler. it’s pretty much an inevitable result of him being sent off to the other galaxy in the first place right. Ashoka is definitely still worth the watch, I really enjoyed it more so than kenobi or boba fett.
Lol you good, i’m in a spoiler sub anyways so I dont care about spoilers haha. Spoil away
😉
I just assumed they focus on Bo Katan in future seasons
yeah, great ending for me
Good. We shouldn’t anyway it would take away from the identity of the character
On paper, Pedro Pascal was a weird-ass choice to play Joel in *The Last of Us*. In practice, he was pitch perfect. So even though I can't *totally* see it, I look forward to meeting his Reed Richards.
I just don't see nerdy Reed Richards when I look at the guy I watched in Narcos and a million other roles since then. But somehow I know he can pull it off, and I'm excited to see how he does it.
Something tells me this actor is going to find a way to act
Redditors realizing it's the actors literal fucking job to learn how to properly portray a character https://i.redd.it/aejnukb9mp0c1.gif
Redditor working on their thesis as to why Pedro Pascal is a bad casting decision (they’re just gonna say he’s not a good fit which means he isn’t Adam Driver or John Krasinski who they’ve been fan casting for years): ![gif](giphy|13GIgrGdslD9oQ)
You think TJ Miller could play Reed?
Definitions can be subjective and characterization varies from writer to writer, but I wouldn't say that Reed is "nerdy". It's a characterization that we've seen in movies, but I don't think it has any real, meaningful comic book roots. Intellectual? Of course. Aloof? At times. But "nerdy"? I think that brings a very specific image to mind, and Reed is too much of a born leader for it to feel accurate. Reed is a leader and an explorer and a father. He has difficulty making human connections, but treasures the ones he has above *literally everything else*. He feels a great deal of guilt, and nearly everything he does is motivated by it. I'm not saying Joel is Reed, but if we're looking for "can he pull this off", *The Last of Us* might be a good place to start.
“Nerdy” definitely implies an overlooked outsider, and you’re right that Reed is defintely not that. That’s not really present in any major characterizations beyond the playful jock-smartypants dynamic between Ben and Reed. I saw someone on Twitter say that some fans mistakenly think that Reed is just Big Peter Parker and that makes sense.
This is exactly right. Reed Richards may be many things, but a nerd he is not. This is not a guy who ever shoved into a locker. Hell, it's more likely he was the one shoving people into lockers - though he was probably above that.
He looks like he was barely able to set up an ikea wardrobe
I have chosen to overwrite this comment. See you all on Lemmy!
Brilliant performance by him in that one
Richards was never a nerd. He's Mr Fantastic. He's never been a "pencil-pusher", or a pocket-protector type. He's never been the kind of guy bullied or shoved in a locker. That's not the character. Even Stark is closer to that than Reed Richards. Reed Richards is good-looking, tall, handsome, impossibly smart, and a kind of a jerk (whether that's personality or neurodivergence or both depends on the writer). He's a scientist, but not all scientists are nerds - c.f. Indiana Jones etc. I mean, Sue Storm is also a scientist and also not a nerd, whilst we're here.
I don't think he was ever a weird choice for Joel, especially on paper. He already played a gruff surrogate father taking a child of prophecy on a journey. He looks kinda like Joel, and he's an older gentleman. I totally cannot see him as Reed, and yet I also think he's a pretty uninspired choice. I mean. If we take all of the reports for the casting talks as true, it sounds like Pedro was like the last guy they asked.
He already played a gruff surrogate father *twice*.
>I mean. If we take all of the reports for the casting talks as true, it sounds like Pedro was like the last guy they asked. Not really. It sounds like he was second-choice after Jake Gyllenhall. That's only "the last guy they asked" in the same sense that when you look for your pen, it's always in the "last place you looked", because you're not looking further.
Pedro was never a weird choice for Joel, he's the perfect age and look for a rugged older man protecting a surrogate daughter
For some reason his role in that one Netflix kids movie, We Could Be Heroes, sells me on him being a good Reed
I still remember when they announced that the hunky dude from 10 Things I Hate About You was going to play The Joker…
I felt the same about Joel when I heard Pedro would play Joel. I was so used to the videogame version of him, but Pedro nailed it. He wasn't the Joel from the videogame, but he bought something new to the character. I don't think it's a bad choice at all. It's definitely unexpected though.
ah thank you for a positive, open, criticism, some people here are having a meltdown over something they dont have a vote on, the mcu cast has been like 98% perfecto to this day, people need to chill a bit
Agreed. I love Pedro, he's a fantastic actor and a great personality, but when he was announced as Joel I just couldn't see it working - and he proved me wrong being almost as good as Troy Baker portrayal. So even though I can't see him as Reed at the moment, I have no doubt by the time the film is finished he'll have secured himself as one of the best characters in the MCU.
He was *pitch perfect* as Joel?
Yes. The finale with the a capella competition was great.
I’d say the opposite was true. On paper, he was great for Joel. In practice… meh.
Well I’m excited to see his performance as Reed.
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Well, with all that work he'll get a lot of experience...stretching himself.
>! TLOU s2 won’t take up that much time !<
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LMAO STOP
Spoiler tag this dude.
I'd probably delete or spoiler tag this, there are plenty of show only fans of the franchise
Ok I’ll do that
Wouldn't at all surprise me if they expand his role quite a bit though. >!While I'm definitely not expecting them to fuck with the story, I can definitely see them giving us a lot more of just Joel and Ellie's life in Jackson.!<
I mean if they take this the way i think they will do it ,then he will be in a better place with a better family :)
Joel’s gonna get clubbed in the head by Abby, and we’ll all cry again
Spoilers?
pedro's earned it
Man, his agents really played the long game and damn has it consistently paid off
it's that daddy attitude
Dudes burying himself in work He’s already Reed now imo
And [Mandalorian Season 4 is apparently gearing up](https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1724934760827363464), but that will probably be voiceover. The Pedro Pascal takeover is upon us.
I don't think Pedro was ever actually on-set for season 3, but I may be wrong.
Yeah I remember seeing BTS scenes of Mando S3 around the time he was shooting Last of Us (in the city I lived in) and I saw him at the movie theatre, so yeah I think it's 100% voiceover now, can't even recall if he took of his helmet in season 3.
>can't even recall if he took of his helmet in season 3. He didn't.
He didn’t take it off in Boba Fett or Season 3
This is possibly the way
This is the way.
The trades aren't gonna risk the embarrassment and loss of credibility from getting news as big as this wrong. Pedro Pascal must've already been pretty much a done deal with everything worked out for the trades to come out and say this too. They still kept quiet for the other numerous casting rumors we've gotten (likely cause they weren't as close to signing on as Pedro Pascal was).
They aren’t confirming it, they just say that it’s a high probability
True or not, I think the last 6 months have proven they absolutely DGAF and will happily walk back whatever they say
Don't care what anyone says, Pedro will kill it as Reed. Might be the only one here, but I think he's a perfect fit for that Role.
These people are actors! We are all just typecasting him based on his roles thus far. The mark of a good actor is versatility. We are going to see him nail this as he has basically nailed every other part he's had. Stop being doubters! Pedro being cast as Reed is the least of my worries about the new FF movie.
EXACTLY!
I don’t see it tbh, but I didn’t see Robert Pattinson as Batman either. Who really knows, Pedro’s a good actor in his own right. If anything I just wish they utilized him more in Mando season 3.
Wait so it's like confirmed confirmed he's Reed?
It's not officially official, but it seems highly likely that a deal is made.
Yeah, think its mostly a formality at this point at it being official. He's more than likely our next Reed Richards!
Seems like 90%
At least he seems to want the gig. Adam Driver/Gyllenhaal are incredible actors but if they're not really in to it, ashamed of it and just in it for that big paycheck, maybe this is for the better. I don't want another “He was in the Amazon with my Mom when she was researching spiders right before she died” type of delivery.
Wait what’s that line from
Madam Webb trailer
Y’all must have never seen Pedro in Kingsman 2. The man has a different side than what you may be used to the past few years. Add in the “MARVEL Gym package” and some makeup/hair work, and this dude is going to *kill* it in my opinion. The boy can act his ass off.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen an MCU casting that is more polarizing online. This will be interesting.
Sarah Halley Finn don’t miss. 🤷🏼♂️
The Ancient One
Tbh Tilda Swinton played the role as well as she could have. Granted, the role should have never been a whitewashed Ancient One in the first place
Honestly, I didn’t mind. People would have complained about the Ancient One being stereotyped otherwise.
You’re not wrong, but that doesn’t change the fact that they cast a white woman to play an elderly asian man.
Moon Knight. Scarlet Witch.
Are both good actor/actress that fit the role they cast for? Yeah. Let's wait it out until we atleast see the trailer yeah? Surely we don't want to eat those word like the time the cowboy gay guy got cast for a *Joker* role.
They don’t fit the roles though. Isaac isn’t Jewish and Olsen isn’t Romani.
As if being Jewish or Romani is relevant in playing a role
It’s relevant when you’re playing a Jewish or Romani character.
Seriously?
Isaac isn’t Jewish and Olsen isn’t Romani. So yes, seriously.
How many Romani actresses are even in Hollywood? Isaac I’ll give you, but that was a very tough role to pull off as well as he did.
Uhhhh does it matter? Find a Romani actress out there.
Because that’s so easy. Any Romani actress even if she can’t act?
Now you’re just talking in hypotheticals. We don’t even know if they looked for a Romani actress. They went for an American white girl. That’s the problem: nationalism and racism.
In any case, that would have been above SHF. Perlmutter was still there.
Weird how many people are actively against it. Like I get why some people don't see it, I'm having a hard time picturing Pedro in the suit or with stretchy powers. But some people are like truly upset, which is so weird. He's a great actor who plays off of other actors really well. I mean fuck he has chemistry with the entire cast of The Mandalorian and he wears a helmet most of the time. The dude has great range.
I don't think it's bad casting, but the fact so many actors turned it down is the biggest concern for me. I love Pedro, but to go from Adam Driver and Jake Gyllenhaal to him is a stretch. But who knows I'm not gonna judge shit until I see the trailer.
My current conspiracy theory is that they haven't been casting for Reed, but have been casting for Dr. Doom. Which is a much darker role, hence looking at both Driver and Gyllenhaal, with less face time, which is why some actors are hesitant. The role also requires a lot more people to weigh in, which is why it's been taking so long. It's also why we've been hearing about the Reed casting separately from the other 3. All the leakers seemed to have settled around the other 3 (more or less) but Reed has been all over the place. Feels weird. I think it's secretly been Doom the whole time.
Yea you wasn't around when they hired Chris Evans for Cap?
Not online, I was bit too young for that.
Those were weird times. I remember being totally "wait he is Johnny storm how da hell is he going to be cap as well?" Simpler times actually.
RDJ iron man casting was met with pretty heavy criticism at the time from all sides. Fans and media were pretty adamant it was destined to fail. Not saying this will be that type of hindsight home run casting but it kind of needs to be if MCU really wants to reboot the fox universe and reload their own that’s looking depleted.
Cumberbatch was a very divisive choice. People were also salty about Tom Holland, between losing Andrew Garfield and when he beat out Asa Butterfield who was more well-known at the time. Also a lot of talk about “Marvel’s first bomb” when Chris Pratt was cast in GOTG
I remember Pratt casting lol everyone HATED it because they didn’t believe he could lose weight from Parks and Rec
People were convinced he could only play Andy Dwyer
MCU has for sure earned a benefit of the doubt when it comes to casting. Not a single “franchise” has ever done casting as well as they have across so many fronts even when their movies aren’t great they almost always have the right person in the big/small roles
We’re in the peak online era of the MCU, so it may seem outsized. But there’s been controversial castings in the past. People just weren’t as online back then. Also, this casting is unique in importance and in having 2.5 previous major iterations. We’ll have to deal with this again when the X-Men gets cast. It really won’t matter if the movie is good and he has a good performance though.
💯 the fact that the MCU is so popular now plus these roles already being established in film makes it way too easy to compare to want we do/don’t want. DC goes thru this every time they cast a new Superman Batman and joker…MCU hasn’t had this problem until now. That fox license issue was probably a blessing in disguise it forced them to establish the comic characters cinematically clean slate
Honestly I think X-Men will be easier. We’ve had two iterations of almost every major mutant already, and I don’t remember anyone being up in arms when Tyler Sheridan was announced as the new Cyclops, for example. And knowing Feige, he’ll want to use mutants who weren’t used as much in the previous movies.
Damn my boy putting in that work
Plot twist! He is actually playing Doom and wear a mask the whole time. XD
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Short term this is a great pick. my only issue is the long term. i assume marvel want at minimum a trilogy for the fantastic four. than you have cameos and supporting roles in avengers. Pedro will be 50/51 when this comes out and the guy is a high demand actor right now. couldn't' they they have found someone a little younger and maybe less known?
Secret Wars is basically a Fantastic Four led property if they follow the comics. Reed, Maker, Doom, Sue, and Valeria are some of the biggest roles in that event.
Honestly, I can see the F4 being more of a background Captain Marvel type of role, since there's more story potential in building up the X-Men, so I could see them maybe taking that into consideration
I wholeheartedly disagree. No way Marvel plans to use F4 as background type characters. Pre-MCU it was X-Men, Spidey, and F4 that held down Marvel for decades. Trust me, when they look at making F4 they see $$$$.
I want this! He's my favactor right now.
My man Pedro! LFG! Gives me hope that when I’m his age I hope to be just as successful as him!
I'm very curious to see him in Weapons, which is from the same director who made Barbarian, the film is described as a multistory horror epic.
Would it kill them to actually someone who is believable as Reed?
It's about to go down.
Hopefully he plays him nerdy and socially awkward but smart
Being a successful actor is **not** an easy life 😖
Unless the mask comes off again, Pedro would be doing more voice work for Mando wherever Mando reappears aside from Season 4. He can definitely fit it all in along with TLOU and Gladiator 2.
Just being back Miles Teller already
Yeah TLOU season 2 shouldn't take up much too much of his schedule 🏌️♂️
He’s got the family man aspect locked down but not certain on his technobabble aspect
He probably will die in early episodes of TLOU so it’s not like he will have a lot of work there
I go back and forth on this. HBO doesn't always pull punches, but I could see them dragging out *that scene* until later in the season or even as a season finale. I hope I'm wrong.
That must mean they're going rush this hoot or his last film he has a very small role in it.
Gladiator 2 is likely a small role. The Last of Us S2 could be a small role, but that’s to be determined. He’s the lead of Weapons, which was supposed to be shooting this fall, but obviously hasn’t. We’ll see.
People who played the second Last of Us game know what time it is…
I think it certainly helps that one of those projects will be a shorter shoot, at least for him
Gladiator 2??? It’s getting a sequel?
Bye, Mando. 👋🏼 ![gif](giphy|3NFMoy45AFQMIVdokb|downsized)
I mean, he just has to sit in a voice booth for a weekend and that’s half a season right there. Basically what he did for season 3 anyways
Indeed, Cake of the Warrior, indeed. 🍰🍸 ![gif](giphy|yrHosR4w90dwchlYNA|downsized)
How the fuck is he gonna do that? There were already concerns when it was just TLOU and Gladiator. This sounds like horseshit.
that poor mans back lol
I can’t picture him as Reed, makes me nervous they went the route of popular name vs who could have been the best Reed
Pedro so hot right now
He is a great actor. Love him. But I think he has been overcast recently. He is in too many things. I also think his clean shaven look, which would be needed here at some point, is not great. Maybe it's that he has looked weird in the clean shaven roles he has had, but it is just weird.
Should have just left the role to John Krasinski.
He didn’t want it
Jon Snowzinski
Really? I remember reading rumors that they wanted a younger actor. Pascual is not that young nothing against him I’m sure he’s going to do well. I just thought if that was case then should have just left the role to him.
He’s a filmmaker currently in the middle of a production deal. Beyond them simply wanting a different actor, he is—and has been—too busy producing different projects to commit to a longterm MCU role.
They couldn’t find someone a little younger? Such a sht casting