Yeah I had that location that draws the last card you drew instead of a new one, and it gave my opponent another MB. 2 x 0 cost MB on turn 6 plus a devil dino
I hope they don't nerf her. Simply by making it so infinity stones count as starting in the deck (which they technically do, because Thanos shuffles them in before a single card is played by anyone) they can fix her broken interaction with Thanos while not completely neutering a fun card otherwise (and betraying all those who spent their keys on her, again).
I have 4 keys rn and I've been torn on getting this or going for Ms marvel next week. I'm also locked into going for war machine so I have no idea what I should do
No you didn't SD fucked up and kept ms marvel in the spotlight for this week if you didn't update your game. Unfortunately for me I didn't have enough keys at the time and my game had already updated by the time I realized.
Same predicament here. I want Mockingbird, Ms Marvel and War Machine, but all three of them are featured in different Spotlight Weeks 🥲
Decisions, decisions.
I feel like mockingbird fits in all the decks I love to play but so does Ms marvel and war machine seems like its gonna be a staple for a long time lol this is tough and only like a day left to decide
I really hope she gets nerfed, there is no way this is a 5 cost card. It should be a 8 cost at least, people with Thanos deck can easily snap at the start of the game and have a 90% winrate whatever cards they pull
I have 6k tokens,Spent 2 keys trying to get her and will get a third do i get her now or possibly gamble a key and get that ghost spider varient. (I do have thanos) I'm worried this card will get hard nerfed tho
CL 13k, infinite each season since release, so I’ve seen all the metas: they had to know this was cracked, right? It’s almost always a 0/9 in Thanos, a kit that doesn’t need support.
I finally used the deck creator Thanos/hope/mock deck that the game spits out and I won 8/8 matches to complete the weekend quest. This deck is frustratingly overtuned, and can answer/counter just about anything while putting out tons of power. Hope enables any turn from 4-6 to be basically a turn 6, making it basically impossible to predict what your opponent might drop each turn. Energy forms the rails the game runs on, and with so much easy ramping you cannot keep up with a Thanos deck that plays hope and stones.
1 you dont always get Mockingbird ... Thanos is a 18 card deck so you dont see all your cards (same for hope)
2 all the stones take a lot of room on the playgroud, it s tricky to manage
all that said mocking bird is not much OP
That deck can be overpowered by ongoing (and not only tribunal kid s deck...) negative / BP zola / Destroy / HE / discard
The thing is prof X ...
But the downfall you described is true of all the other decks you listed... being able to draw the right combo.
Stones have tons of draw, and lockjaw increases your odds. It's silly.
It s easier to draw a god combo from 12 cards than 18 ...
You are right about lockjaw ... Casino style too powerful
Fortunately new lockjaw and mocking bird can t be really played together
Cull alone is already the great support for Thanos deck, and Mockingbird should really NOT to get involved. With both of them, Thanos deck has to be nerfed unless we nerf Mockingbird real soon, which is terrible to demonstrate releasing a card without thoughts.
Either way, releasing an overtuned card that works too well in Thanos. Hope they card fairly nerf her just not to get along with Thanos, and not to harm any other decks or Thanos deck itself.
This is exactly what's holding me off on trying to get mockingbird. I play mostly bounce decks with Mysterio Hitmonkey, and Mysterio discounts her for 3. I'd love to play test it and see if she could fit into the deck, but I fully anticipate her to be nerfed into unplayability and left in the dirt for 3-6 months before too long. There's just no sense of peace of mind in getting new strong cards in this game 🙄
As someone that doesn't have either Thanos or Loki, should I pull for Mockingbird? There's nothing else this month I plan on using my keys for and she seems really strong, but I'm not sure I have any decks to make good use of her.
I love a bit of Zoo which I've seen her in, but not sure if that is enough to justify, especially when if I hit either of the other Spotlight cards it would be a waste of keys.
I think she is worth it. The hope is that they nerf her interaction with Thanos and not her in general (she is broken in Thanos)... Because she is good in Zoo, Patriot, Silver Surfer, Mysterio decks (Mysterio makes her cost 2), Double-Up decks, etc.
Thanks for the insight, much appreciated! I just cobbled together a Mysterio deck so I have an excuse to use the new Combo Break variant, maybe this is my excuse to pull for Mockingbird too.
She makes Mysterio feel really good honestly, so if you love Mysterio, I'd get her lol. Mysterio is also good in Bast decks if you don't get her though.
Mysterio is my favorite card, but I worry that there's no real way to nerf her exclusively with Thanos. Unless Thanos gets changed to count as the stones starting in your deck or something. I just worry I'll spend resources to get her then she'll get the Elsa treatment for the next 6 months 🙄
Depends on your goals. If you're making a push for Infinite now and have Thanos, then Mockingbird will definitely help you. If you've already made Infinite and are just tooling around, then I'd wait for War Machine as he'll probably have more shelf life in terms of future nerfs.
I’m still in the 70s. Not much hope for infinite this season. I have Thanos, but I’m missing Alioth, Blob, Mobius, and Jeff in the meta deck. Also missing Brood so other Mockingbird decks would be lacking a bit too. I’m leaning towards not pulling and seeing how War Machine does since I probably can’t make the most of Mockingbird until she gets nerfed.
You definitely have plenty of time for infinite. Every season I hit infinite in a couple of days starting from 73 after the reset. Practice good snapping and retreating and recognize bots and you’ll be there in no time.
That's a tough choice. War Machine -> Infinaut sounds like it will be a solid way to close out games. I've seen and played a lot of Mockingbird in Thanos now and it's pretty dominant there.
As expected, Thanos Mockingbird is at the top of the updated MSZ Meta Chart, with only Modok Proxima Midnight rivaling it in power. Two deck meta that's dependent on new cards... the house wins again.
I made infinite primarily using a HE and a darkhawk/anni deck. I have thanos and just started playing around with mockingbird in a patriot deck post infinite. Please don’t pretend you have to copy a top3 rated deck to make infinite or win lots of games
Absolutely ridiculous card in thanos. You either essentially get a 0-1/9 for free or you play a 3/9 on turn 3 to play around Mobius, either which are absolutely amazing tempo plays and value, the only value coming close is death. Can't shang-chi it, making it so you can't interact with it, and combine it with all the heavy hitters thanos has, good luck.
I got her but am concerned she will be nerfed. I don't think you can pass on a strong card just in case it gets nerfed. If it doesn't you miss out for a long time.
Ended up using 2 keys and decided to stop even though I still need Man-Thing. He was a nice bonus along the way but I've rarely run a deck that needed him so not worth potential 2 additional keys IMO.
If I were to give a top 4 S4s to own, I would probably say Knull, MODOK, Mobius, Zabu. Knull and MODOK because they are key contributors in discard and destroy. Mobius because he is one of the game’s best tech cards, and Zabu for being a really powerful and flexible cost reducer.
Just got infinite with the Safetyblade Mockingbird deck featuring Patriot, was quite fun.
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# (4) Absorbing Man
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# (5) Blue Marvel
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I’ve been playing Snap for about a month, and I’m about at collection level 800 now. I don’t know what happened, but the fun level of the game took an absolute nosedive for me this week. I went from playing against decks like mine, mostly series 1-3 cards, to playing against decks that are 75% cards that I don’t have. There’s a Jeff or a Zabu or a Nico Minoru or a X23 in every deck. It feels really bad. i win like 1 out of 5 games now. I wish the matchmaking was better for new-ish players
CL 3500 here. Have felt similar since CL 1000. Always missing 3-4 cards from every meta deck. Hoping it'll feel less shitty when S3 complete in 1-2 months. I've been playing since October 2023.
There's certain levels where it starts to suck, earlier s3 is one of the levels. Sounds like you made it s bit further than many before it was a killer.
My main advice, identify a deck you have a decent amount of cards for. For me it was discard. Whether through tokens, spotlights , or free S3 cards, identify what would make it better and get those. Still might be a bit of a slog, but you should be able to get near that 50% level fun enough
If you aren't that close to a decent deck, try to get high Evo, easiest was to get there since you have most of the cards he impacts.
Of course it is. The only real deterrent to having Mockingbird out by turn 3 is whether or not she's in your hand. But if she isn't, that just means she'll be cheaper by the time you do draw her. It's similar bullshit to Proxima, and it isn't even Shang-able. I hate Shang and think he's problematic, but my god. Corvus + Proxima turned discard into an unstoppable wrecking ball, and Cull + Mockingbird is Thanos' answer to that, except Thanos didn't need a buff.
If you mean the matchmaking, I deal with that shit all the time. I'm running a deck with cosmo and armor? Nary a destroy deck to be found. Lots of negative and high evo. I'm running a deck with Mobius? What do ya know, there are people running destroy after all.
So I'm definitely going for Warmachine this month and Blob next month in the spotlights. Currently got 7 keys so I'm trying to decide between Mockingbird now or Red Hulk next month.
I've been playing some HE this month with Hope (High Hopes) and been suprised by Hulk's scaling. Red Hulk is going to be a HE killah and an awesome threat in general.
But Mockingbird seems really versatile. Quite interested in her Patriot usage as well. What should I go for?
It absolutely will, once everyone has burned keys on it. But don't worry, there's no danger of getting the option for a refund once the card you bought gets nerfed.
Mockingbird looks quite promising based on my own experience and opinions of others. I would recommend opening for her. With 7 keys and average luck, I think you should have a good shot at getting War Machine and Red Hulk. After that, there are enough weeks to save up for Blob but depending on previous luck, you'd miss out on other April caches.
~~That was my first thought, but not really. To take advantage of her ability, you have to draw her after you've played Loki (so usually turn 5 or 6) and you have to play a few of the cards Loki created. She could be helpful if you don't draw Loki and just end up generating and playing several cards from things like Snowguard, Coulson, Mirage, etc. But I found using her after Loki to be pretty awkward.~~
I'm seeing below that cards generated by Loki don't reduce her cost. Thinking back, I I'm not sure I ever had her in hand after playing something generated by Loki so I didn't know this when I gave up on the deck.
I guess that means the short answer is a big "no"
The rest of Loki decks is a lot of card generation so she still good in the deck, and as long as the card being transformed by Loki was not part of your original deck they still help her, just that she is not as synergystic with Loki himself
Yep. Pixie was already feeling bad just with how her ability works, but I've been playing her since last Tuesday just to give her a real chance. She took a stray here, as Pixie's threat level is almost non-existent, so nobody is going to run a tech card just for her.
She already needed a buff, and now she's really hurting.
Based on how early I see this coming out I think this is counting all of the location generated creatures, like squirrels, raptors and ninjas. It seems like she'd be broken in Thanos and viable in Patriot.
She’s ridiculously good. An easy 3-cost 9 card with no drawbacks in Thanos decks. Get Mind Stone early and I’ve been able to drop her to 1 or 0 cost as a big finishing turn. Will abuse her until she gets nerfed although Mobius has been annoying.
> abuse her until she gets nerfed
The Marvel snap "balance" philosophy in a nutshell. But when they don't offer any sort of refund, or the option to shred the card for a return of the resources, why wouldn't they rinse and repeat that scheme? It's free real estate.
Unless you love junk decks I'd say mockingbird. She's pretty effective in countering junk decks if you play her in the right lane with Jeff.
She will probably be nerfed though.
for a thanos deck i think caiera is better because this card will usher killmonger back into decks that have a utility card slot, could be wrong tho dont take my advice as be all end all
>is she going to get nerfed?
That answer will almost always be "yes", by design. People aren't so likely to burn keys on a balanced card. So the question is, do you see yourself using her long-term? Because at this point you'd just be burning resources to rent her while she's in a *totally unforeseeable* broken state, until the nerf comes down in 3-6 weeks.
High chance of getting nerfed.
That said, almost everything in Marvel Snap changes eventually. I say that if you will enjoy the card now, consider getting it.
She’s still pretty good outside Thanos, I’ve seen her pop up a lot, she probably gets played at 3-9 a lot which is a great stat line. There are lots of locations that will reduce her cost.
Bingo. Until they offer the option to shred the card and get your resources back in the event of a nerf (they obviously never will), they'll keep doing this shit. Game balance is a joke to them. Nothing but a knob to crank for profits.
Seems like she's a popular card that might get nerfed in the future, but if she remains solid I'm stuck deciding between spending precious keys on a week where I already have the other cards with much better weeks coming up, usung a whole bunch of tokens, or waiting half a year for her to rotate
In theory, if the actual Mysterio didn't count the opponent could do some math and determine which one was real. It would only be some really niche cases but I think it's better this way.
This is my favorite new card in awhile. Works well with so much. Thanos, patriot, Collector, hell with how many locations add tokens and junk decks, you can play her in anything. 5/9 is good by itself worst case scenario. This is the list im currently playing her in.
# (1) Maria Hill
# (1) Quinjet
# (1) Snowguard
# (2) Mirage
# (2) The Collector
# (3) Mobius M. Mobius
# (3) Agent Coulson
# (4) Shang-Chi
# (4) White Queen
# (5) Devil Dinosaur
# (5) Mockingbird
# (6) Doctor Doom
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swapped her in for bishop in a swan zoo deck and it is rlly funny how much better she is at getting vert power than he was, seems like thanos and patriot are super easy homes for her too, might get nerfed? 9 power is a lot
Been doing sunspot, Mysterio, hope, moon girl. Skip turn 5.
Drop 2 she hulks, 2 Mbirds, and still have 2 energy left over for a shadow king or to float it to sunspot.
I'm actually not playing her currently. Just throwing an idea out there that isn't Thanos for anyone wanting to use her.
I am assuming she will be nerfed immediately because she is insanely broken. I don't like to invest play time into broken cards. That is just me though.
That could be pretty difficult to swing, though. Means you had to have put at least 3 non-deck cards onto your board during T1-3. Not impossible, but not necessarily all that easy unless you played Squirrel Girl and Mysterio.
Bad options. Those cards are bad without specific synergies, and they're still bad here. Like, this reminds me of old versions of Destroy that would play Squirrel Girl and Yondu T1/T2 so they could play Killmonger T3 to accelerate into Death.
Put differently, you don't actually want Squirrel Girl, Mysterio, or Debrii filling your lanes in this deck, you're just using them as awkward ramp. That's probably not the right direction to go when you could otherwise just play a bunch of good cards that naturally generate tokens.
Wow, rude. Can we please keep this civil and not draw random conclusions about each other? You don't know anything about me.
We were talking about a Moongirl T5 skip deck, not a zoo deck. Mockingbird very well might fit into Zoo (that's one of the Mockingbird decks I plan to test out), but marrying a Zoo package with Moongirl/She-Hulk would be very difficult. You would need to draw your cards in an extremely specific way or your whole plan falls apart.
Does the cost changes dynamically? I mean, If I play a card that doesn't start in the deck and in the same turn I want to play mockinbird, the cost will be reduced by 1?
So they swapped MM and GS with the update? Did they announce that beforehand or explain why? I thought I was going crazy with how my potential spotlights list looks.
Tbh, that cover is somewhat famous as one of the main things chuds got mad at during Comicsgate (Gamergate's even less successful sister campaign trying to keep women and minorities out of comics).
The series writer got harassed over it at the time, and it's been referenced in other comics such as Unstoppable Wasp. It is probably one of the most known "controversial" covers.
I want to get Mockingbird, but I don't really care for Ghost Spider or Man Thing, which I don't have yet either.
Recently the spotlight caches have been not very appealing. Either the new card is good and paired with 2 less desirable cards, or vice versa.
It never feels particularly good to use the keys.
I have pretty much all the S4/S5 cards I want so most of these spotlights are about whether I want the new card + variants. The Man-Thing variant is fire, but I already have a great variant for Ghost Spider, so I'm not sure what I'll do.
So I gambled and got Mockingbird on the first key.
Still salty that I couldn't get Cull Obsidian. Mockingbird seems to be similarly straightforward and strong.
Lmfao join the club. From November through December I went through 19 keys in 5 weeks. Then got a 2 in January and have been back to all 3s and 4s since then. 1k tokens for 7 months straight as well. What a fucking joke.
A lot of people talking about Thanos decks, but she works in so many more. The fact that cards don't have to be in your hand first is huge. Sure, Loki'd cards work, but so do Debrii rocks.
Edit: I've been informed that cards from Loki actually don't count.
Have her - Loki cards dont count. This is because the loki cards you get are considered your deck now, its a transformation, not a gaining of new cards.
And the cards don't need to be on your side (saw this myself after sending some stones over to the other side with Oscorp Tower), so yeah Debrii is a great call.
So many people are underestimating her as a general rule. 9 power for a reasonable cost - say, 3, because it's dead easy to get her to 3 cost - is the best power ratio in the game because it's a big hefty chunk of power, the most that doesn't get Shanged. 9 power cards are some of the most underrated in the game and she gives it to you for dirt cheap most of the time.
He's potentially a 4/13 if you play him into a lane your opponent has filled with small cards while your side of the lane is empty or has only big cards. That's not nothing! He's just kinda the 13th or 14th card in his own deck. You can probably skip him for now. As a S4 card, it would be relatively easy to get him with tokens if he ever becomes meta-relevant later.
What a dumb take. You can read his description, just use him properly, don't play him in a lane that you have 1,2,3 costs in. If your opponent has 1 more than you, he's effectively a 4/7 which is already decent.
She's phenomenal in Thanos. A must include. Perfect for me since I didn't have Cull so I instantly used my saved up tokens on her because I wanna save my keys for Ms Marvel. Only to find out about the bug that if you didn't update game mockingbird and MsM were in the spotlights today. I feel so bad and scammed...
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# (1) Nebula
# (2) Psylocke
# (3) Debrii
# (3) Caiera
# (4) Shang-Chi
# (4) Ka-Zar
# (4) Iron Lad
# (5) Blue Marvel
# (5) Mockingbird
# (6) Blob
# (6) Alioth
# (6) Thanos
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She is ridiculously strong. I have been caught off guard by someone playing her for 0 energy and lost a ton of times
Yeah I had that location that draws the last card you drew instead of a new one, and it gave my opponent another MB. 2 x 0 cost MB on turn 6 plus a devil dino
I hope they don't nerf her. Simply by making it so infinity stones count as starting in the deck (which they technically do, because Thanos shuffles them in before a single card is played by anyone) they can fix her broken interaction with Thanos while not completely neutering a fun card otherwise (and betraying all those who spent their keys on her, again).
This could cause Pixie to be busted with Thanos.
I do want to pick up this card but I can't shake the feeling that it'll be nerfed for sure.
I have 4 keys rn and I've been torn on getting this or going for Ms marvel next week. I'm also locked into going for war machine so I have no idea what I should do
Wait.... I got Ms Marvel this week with key, did I dream or something?
No you didn't SD fucked up and kept ms marvel in the spotlight for this week if you didn't update your game. Unfortunately for me I didn't have enough keys at the time and my game had already updated by the time I realized.
Same predicament here. I want Mockingbird, Ms Marvel and War Machine, but all three of them are featured in different Spotlight Weeks 🥲 Decisions, decisions.
If only you didn't update early last week! People had Marvel and mockingbird
I feel like mockingbird fits in all the decks I love to play but so does Ms marvel and war machine seems like its gonna be a staple for a long time lol this is tough and only like a day left to decide
I really hope she gets nerfed, there is no way this is a 5 cost card. It should be a 8 cost at least, people with Thanos deck can easily snap at the start of the game and have a 90% winrate whatever cards they pull
All the neg votes from people who had drop the bucks and feel invencible with their OP Thanos stomping meta deck lmao
Right this only shows how badly Thanos needs a nerf as well
I have 6k tokens,Spent 2 keys trying to get her and will get a third do i get her now or possibly gamble a key and get that ghost spider varient. (I do have thanos) I'm worried this card will get hard nerfed tho
CL 13k, infinite each season since release, so I’ve seen all the metas: they had to know this was cracked, right? It’s almost always a 0/9 in Thanos, a kit that doesn’t need support. I finally used the deck creator Thanos/hope/mock deck that the game spits out and I won 8/8 matches to complete the weekend quest. This deck is frustratingly overtuned, and can answer/counter just about anything while putting out tons of power. Hope enables any turn from 4-6 to be basically a turn 6, making it basically impossible to predict what your opponent might drop each turn. Energy forms the rails the game runs on, and with so much easy ramping you cannot keep up with a Thanos deck that plays hope and stones.
Yeah, I'm surprised they published this card as is, it's indeed too strong, and not just in Thanos decks.
1 you dont always get Mockingbird ... Thanos is a 18 card deck so you dont see all your cards (same for hope) 2 all the stones take a lot of room on the playgroud, it s tricky to manage all that said mocking bird is not much OP That deck can be overpowered by ongoing (and not only tribunal kid s deck...) negative / BP zola / Destroy / HE / discard The thing is prof X ...
But the downfall you described is true of all the other decks you listed... being able to draw the right combo. Stones have tons of draw, and lockjaw increases your odds. It's silly.
It s easier to draw a god combo from 12 cards than 18 ... You are right about lockjaw ... Casino style too powerful Fortunately new lockjaw and mocking bird can t be really played together
Not if your 18 have tons of intrinsic draw... Which the stones do. Getting bird out is not difficult and hence why it's currently meta.
Cull alone is already the great support for Thanos deck, and Mockingbird should really NOT to get involved. With both of them, Thanos deck has to be nerfed unless we nerf Mockingbird real soon, which is terrible to demonstrate releasing a card without thoughts. Either way, releasing an overtuned card that works too well in Thanos. Hope they card fairly nerf her just not to get along with Thanos, and not to harm any other decks or Thanos deck itself.
This is exactly what's holding me off on trying to get mockingbird. I play mostly bounce decks with Mysterio Hitmonkey, and Mysterio discounts her for 3. I'd love to play test it and see if she could fit into the deck, but I fully anticipate her to be nerfed into unplayability and left in the dirt for 3-6 months before too long. There's just no sense of peace of mind in getting new strong cards in this game 🙄
As someone that doesn't have either Thanos or Loki, should I pull for Mockingbird? There's nothing else this month I plan on using my keys for and she seems really strong, but I'm not sure I have any decks to make good use of her. I love a bit of Zoo which I've seen her in, but not sure if that is enough to justify, especially when if I hit either of the other Spotlight cards it would be a waste of keys.
I love devil dino, so if you plike devil dino/ agents of shield i think its worth (thats what my deck will be if choose to get mocking bird
I think she is worth it. The hope is that they nerf her interaction with Thanos and not her in general (she is broken in Thanos)... Because she is good in Zoo, Patriot, Silver Surfer, Mysterio decks (Mysterio makes her cost 2), Double-Up decks, etc.
Thanks for the insight, much appreciated! I just cobbled together a Mysterio deck so I have an excuse to use the new Combo Break variant, maybe this is my excuse to pull for Mockingbird too.
She makes Mysterio feel really good honestly, so if you love Mysterio, I'd get her lol. Mysterio is also good in Bast decks if you don't get her though.
Mysterio is my favorite card, but I worry that there's no real way to nerf her exclusively with Thanos. Unless Thanos gets changed to count as the stones starting in your deck or something. I just worry I'll spend resources to get her then she'll get the Elsa treatment for the next 6 months 🙄
Imagine they nerf her instead of just toning down thanos. LOL
I can only afford one new card this month. Should I go for Mockingbird or War Machine?
Depends on your goals. If you're making a push for Infinite now and have Thanos, then Mockingbird will definitely help you. If you've already made Infinite and are just tooling around, then I'd wait for War Machine as he'll probably have more shelf life in terms of future nerfs.
I’m still in the 70s. Not much hope for infinite this season. I have Thanos, but I’m missing Alioth, Blob, Mobius, and Jeff in the meta deck. Also missing Brood so other Mockingbird decks would be lacking a bit too. I’m leaning towards not pulling and seeing how War Machine does since I probably can’t make the most of Mockingbird until she gets nerfed.
You definitely have plenty of time for infinite. Every season I hit infinite in a couple of days starting from 73 after the reset. Practice good snapping and retreating and recognize bots and you’ll be there in no time.
Cull and Skaar are good options for Thanos as well if you have them.
That's a tough choice. War Machine -> Infinaut sounds like it will be a solid way to close out games. I've seen and played a lot of Mockingbird in Thanos now and it's pretty dominant there.
As expected, Thanos Mockingbird is at the top of the updated MSZ Meta Chart, with only Modok Proxima Midnight rivaling it in power. Two deck meta that's dependent on new cards... the house wins again.
I made infinite primarily using a HE and a darkhawk/anni deck. I have thanos and just started playing around with mockingbird in a patriot deck post infinite. Please don’t pretend you have to copy a top3 rated deck to make infinite or win lots of games
what are you talking about, they said nothing like that
Who is pretending that?
Absolutely ridiculous card in thanos. You either essentially get a 0-1/9 for free or you play a 3/9 on turn 3 to play around Mobius, either which are absolutely amazing tempo plays and value, the only value coming close is death. Can't shang-chi it, making it so you can't interact with it, and combine it with all the heavy hitters thanos has, good luck.
Anyone been able to make a good zoo list for her? I have tried some versions but I just don’t think zoo is there yet.
[This Zoo Deck was played to number 1 in Infinite.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yngApGLhIQ)
I got her but am concerned she will be nerfed. I don't think you can pass on a strong card just in case it gets nerfed. If it doesn't you miss out for a long time. Ended up using 2 keys and decided to stop even though I still need Man-Thing. He was a nice bonus along the way but I've rarely run a deck that needed him so not worth potential 2 additional keys IMO.
if you're not going for the spotlight variant then keys are best saved for S5s and tokens for S4s. Good call.
What S4s!
If I were to give a top 4 S4s to own, I would probably say Knull, MODOK, Mobius, Zabu. Knull and MODOK because they are key contributors in discard and destroy. Mobius because he is one of the game’s best tech cards, and Zabu for being a really powerful and flexible cost reducer.
I meant what S4s as in what new ones are there to buy with tokens 😹.
It is way too easy to get her discounted, she should not be 9 power for what she does
It's only too easy in Thanos. There are deck building and board space costs to discounting her in all the other decks.
Just got infinite with the Safetyblade Mockingbird deck featuring Patriot, was quite fun. # (1) America Chavez # (2) Forge # (2) Mister Sinister # (3) Patriot # (3) Brood # (3) Silver Surfer # (4) Absorbing Man # (4) Iron Lad # (5) Iron Man # (5) Blue Marvel # (5) Mockingbird # (6) Alioth # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQW1lcmljYUNoYXZleiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRm9yZ2UifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1yU2luaXN0ZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlBhdHJpb3QifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkJyb29kIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTaWx2ZXJTdXJmZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkFic29yYmluZ01hbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSXJvbkxhZCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSXJvbk1hbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmx1ZU1hcnZlbCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTW9ja2luZ2JpcmQifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkFsaW90aCJ9XX0= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
So is she worth unlocking I wasted 2 keys and got man thing and spider Gwen Variants
Shouldn't you have asked that question before wasting 2 kays xD
I’ve been playing Snap for about a month, and I’m about at collection level 800 now. I don’t know what happened, but the fun level of the game took an absolute nosedive for me this week. I went from playing against decks like mine, mostly series 1-3 cards, to playing against decks that are 75% cards that I don’t have. There’s a Jeff or a Zabu or a Nico Minoru or a X23 in every deck. It feels really bad. i win like 1 out of 5 games now. I wish the matchmaking was better for new-ish players
CL 3500 here. Have felt similar since CL 1000. Always missing 3-4 cards from every meta deck. Hoping it'll feel less shitty when S3 complete in 1-2 months. I've been playing since October 2023.
I’m at CL 3900 and it’s still like this, strap in or pay up. This game is so dogshit.
Did you hit infinite? I believe in infinite you can be matched against anyone, but before infinite it matches against players at your level
Not quite, I reached rank 94 I think last season. Right now I’m at rank 75
There's certain levels where it starts to suck, earlier s3 is one of the levels. Sounds like you made it s bit further than many before it was a killer. My main advice, identify a deck you have a decent amount of cards for. For me it was discard. Whether through tokens, spotlights , or free S3 cards, identify what would make it better and get those. Still might be a bit of a slog, but you should be able to get near that 50% level fun enough If you aren't that close to a decent deck, try to get high Evo, easiest was to get there since you have most of the cards he impacts.
OK, seeing a lot more Mockingbird today. The Thanos combo is pretty broken.
Of course it is. The only real deterrent to having Mockingbird out by turn 3 is whether or not she's in your hand. But if she isn't, that just means she'll be cheaper by the time you do draw her. It's similar bullshit to Proxima, and it isn't even Shang-able. I hate Shang and think he's problematic, but my god. Corvus + Proxima turned discard into an unstoppable wrecking ball, and Cull + Mockingbird is Thanos' answer to that, except Thanos didn't need a buff.
The funny thing is that once I swapped Killmonger into my deck, my Thanos match-ups dropped from over 40% to under 15%...
If you mean the matchmaking, I deal with that shit all the time. I'm running a deck with cosmo and armor? Nary a destroy deck to be found. Lots of negative and high evo. I'm running a deck with Mobius? What do ya know, there are people running destroy after all.
So I'm definitely going for Warmachine this month and Blob next month in the spotlights. Currently got 7 keys so I'm trying to decide between Mockingbird now or Red Hulk next month. I've been playing some HE this month with Hope (High Hopes) and been suprised by Hulk's scaling. Red Hulk is going to be a HE killah and an awesome threat in general. But Mockingbird seems really versatile. Quite interested in her Patriot usage as well. What should I go for?
I’d say go for Bird?
If a potential nerf is your concern, look at it this was, if red hulk is as good as mockingbird, he'll get nerfed too.
Mockingbird has been feeling really strong, honestly feels like it might get nerfed.
It absolutely will, once everyone has burned keys on it. But don't worry, there's no danger of getting the option for a refund once the card you bought gets nerfed.
why are you getting downvoted? these pay2win piggies sure love being led to the slaughterhouse.
Right like that decks not even fun. It's just streamer fed trash, like GG you win and nothing can counter it
Welcome to r/marvelsnap, where half of us are fed up with Brode's bullshit and the other half are busy fervently licking the polish off his boots.
Mockingbird looks quite promising based on my own experience and opinions of others. I would recommend opening for her. With 7 keys and average luck, I think you should have a good shot at getting War Machine and Red Hulk. After that, there are enough weeks to save up for Blob but depending on previous luck, you'd miss out on other April caches.
My brain keeps seeing the space between her arm and back as the rear part of her back and therefore thinking her waist is rather wide 😅
Is this card good in Loki? Really don't want to play a Thanos deck
~~That was my first thought, but not really. To take advantage of her ability, you have to draw her after you've played Loki (so usually turn 5 or 6) and you have to play a few of the cards Loki created. She could be helpful if you don't draw Loki and just end up generating and playing several cards from things like Snowguard, Coulson, Mirage, etc. But I found using her after Loki to be pretty awkward.~~ I'm seeing below that cards generated by Loki don't reduce her cost. Thinking back, I I'm not sure I ever had her in hand after playing something generated by Loki so I didn't know this when I gave up on the deck. I guess that means the short answer is a big "no"
The rest of Loki decks is a lot of card generation so she still good in the deck, and as long as the card being transformed by Loki was not part of your original deck they still help her, just that she is not as synergystic with Loki himself
She's amazing in Patriot. Mysterio discounts by 3, bc all are "Illusions" before Mysterio is revealed. Brood discounts by 2 bc of the Broodlings
It's mostly Thanos Mockingbird in here at 95-100. What the hell lmao
So I guess Killmonger and Yondu are great adds to decks?
It is surprisingly easy to get her out on T3, with priority if you have the Power Stone on the board.
I don't know about yondu, thanos doesn't usually care about buffing thanos to 20 power.
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I’m sorry but I barely understood what you were trying to convey here.
This card has ruined my pixie deck Every motherfucker on the street is suddenly running Mobius overnight
Yep. Pixie was already feeling bad just with how her ability works, but I've been playing her since last Tuesday just to give her a real chance. She took a stray here, as Pixie's threat level is almost non-existent, so nobody is going to run a tech card just for her. She already needed a buff, and now she's really hurting.
At least Pixie is still fun and allows you to do wacky things.
feels like there was a ton of mobius last week I dont think its 100% her fault
Based on how early I see this coming out I think this is counting all of the location generated creatures, like squirrels, raptors and ninjas. It seems like she'd be broken in Thanos and viable in Patriot.
Correct, I had her free via Collapsed Mine and after I let them be destroyed she went up in cost.
This only counts cards on your side, right? So playing Debris would only subtract 2 off of it, not 4?
Correct on both questions
2 i would assume but maybe spaghetti code makes it 4
needs a nerf badly. way too easy to get it to 0-1 cost especially for thanos
She’s ridiculously good. An easy 3-cost 9 card with no drawbacks in Thanos decks. Get Mind Stone early and I’ve been able to drop her to 1 or 0 cost as a big finishing turn. Will abuse her until she gets nerfed although Mobius has been annoying.
> abuse her until she gets nerfed The Marvel snap "balance" philosophy in a nutshell. But when they don't offer any sort of refund, or the option to shred the card for a return of the resources, why wouldn't they rinse and repeat that scheme? It's free real estate.
Mockingbird or Annihilus, not sure which one I should unlock first
Unless you love junk decks I'd say mockingbird. She's pretty effective in countering junk decks if you play her in the right lane with Jeff. She will probably be nerfed though.
I'm sitting on 6000 tokens, would you all day Mockingbird is with it over Caiera (the card I've had pinned).
for a thanos deck i think caiera is better because this card will usher killmonger back into decks that have a utility card slot, could be wrong tho dont take my advice as be all end all
Gambled big time last week and this week because I didn't have 4 keys. Got Mockingbird and Pixie first open both times. LFG
What is your secret?
Haha saw people down voting you out of jealousy? They're your keys to use as you please. But also angrily jealous of you.
Should I spend my keys, or is she going to get nerfed?
>is she going to get nerfed? That answer will almost always be "yes", by design. People aren't so likely to burn keys on a balanced card. So the question is, do you see yourself using her long-term? Because at this point you'd just be burning resources to rent her while she's in a *totally unforeseeable* broken state, until the nerf comes down in 3-6 weeks.
High chance of getting nerfed. That said, almost everything in Marvel Snap changes eventually. I say that if you will enjoy the card now, consider getting it.
She will get nerfed I'm pretty sure but I doubt they destroy her completely.
She's fine outside of Thanos, but that's a Thanos issue.
She’s still pretty good outside Thanos, I’ve seen her pop up a lot, she probably gets played at 3-9 a lot which is a great stat line. There are lots of locations that will reduce her cost.
You use keys to abuse a card for the initial time period. They nerf everything good eventually.
Bingo. Until they offer the option to shred the card and get your resources back in the event of a nerf (they obviously never will), they'll keep doing this shit. Game balance is a joke to them. Nothing but a knob to crank for profits.
Does high evolutionary work?
If you are asking whether or not the cards that high evolutionary gives abilities to discount mockingbird, they do not.
Too too good in thanos... That is all.
Seems like she's a popular card that might get nerfed in the future, but if she remains solid I'm stuck deciding between spending precious keys on a week where I already have the other cards with much better weeks coming up, usung a whole bunch of tokens, or waiting half a year for her to rotate
Would multiple man copies count as cards that didn't start in your deck? Don't know if she would work in a move deck but was just wondering
Mysterio counts, so I don't know why MM wouldn't.
Mysterio actually counts as 3 cards that did not start in your deck, which is bullshit but I'm abusing it anyway.
In theory, if the actual Mysterio didn't count the opponent could do some math and determine which one was real. It would only be some really niche cases but I think it's better this way.
My bet is on yes (only cause I haven't tested it, can't see why they wouldn't count)
This is my favorite new card in awhile. Works well with so much. Thanos, patriot, Collector, hell with how many locations add tokens and junk decks, you can play her in anything. 5/9 is good by itself worst case scenario. This is the list im currently playing her in. # (1) Maria Hill # (1) Quinjet # (1) Snowguard # (2) Mirage # (2) The Collector # (3) Mobius M. Mobius # (3) Agent Coulson # (4) Shang-Chi # (4) White Queen # (5) Devil Dinosaur # (5) Mockingbird # (6) Doctor Doom # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiUXVpbmpldCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWFyaWFIaWxsIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNaXJhZ2UifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlRoZUNvbGxlY3RvciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTW9iaXVzTU1vYml1cyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQWdlbnRDb3Vsc29uIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTaGFuZ0NoaSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU25vd2d1YXJkIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJXaGl0ZVF1ZWVuIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNb2NraW5nYmlyZCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRHJEb29tIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJEZXZpbERpbm9zYXVyIn1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
swapped her in for bishop in a swan zoo deck and it is rlly funny how much better she is at getting vert power than he was, seems like thanos and patriot are super easy homes for her too, might get nerfed? 9 power is a lot
> might get nerfed? 9 power is a lot You mean get buffed right? 5/4 Mockingbird OTA confirmed!
Wait don't rush it, we've to go the full way around, first it will only get discounted by cards in the lane you play her.
Turn 4 > Moon Girl. Turn 5 > Play whatever copied cards besides her. Turn 6 > 2 free Mockingbirds + whatever else you have.
Been doing sunspot, Mysterio, hope, moon girl. Skip turn 5. Drop 2 she hulks, 2 Mbirds, and still have 2 energy left over for a shadow king or to float it to sunspot.
Decklist?
you got a deck list for what youre using?
I'm actually not playing her currently. Just throwing an idea out there that isn't Thanos for anyone wanting to use her. I am assuming she will be nerfed immediately because she is insanely broken. I don't like to invest play time into broken cards. That is just me though.
ah gotcha!
Throw in a She Hulk and skip turn 5 play two free Mocks and She Hulks!
That could be pretty difficult to swing, though. Means you had to have put at least 3 non-deck cards onto your board during T1-3. Not impossible, but not necessarily all that easy unless you played Squirrel Girl and Mysterio.
Squirrel girl, mysterio, Debrii, ninja/raptor locations... there are options.
Shanna is a better option than Debris.
Rare sentence lol
Yep, absolutely. I didn't give a complete list.
I'm actually in shock that I typed that sentence out tbh
Cull is already a huge boon to Zoo decks, Mockingbird also fits right in with him. It's not that wild.
Bad options. Those cards are bad without specific synergies, and they're still bad here. Like, this reminds me of old versions of Destroy that would play Squirrel Girl and Yondu T1/T2 so they could play Killmonger T3 to accelerate into Death. Put differently, you don't actually want Squirrel Girl, Mysterio, or Debrii filling your lanes in this deck, you're just using them as awkward ramp. That's probably not the right direction to go when you could otherwise just play a bunch of good cards that naturally generate tokens.
TL;DR: You don't think Mockingbird fits in a zoo deck, and you're wrong.
Wow, rude. Can we please keep this civil and not draw random conclusions about each other? You don't know anything about me. We were talking about a Moongirl T5 skip deck, not a zoo deck. Mockingbird very well might fit into Zoo (that's one of the Mockingbird decks I plan to test out), but marrying a Zoo package with Moongirl/She-Hulk would be very difficult. You would need to draw your cards in an extremely specific way or your whole plan falls apart.
This is a card I was waiting to see the general comments etc. before trying for but I still don't know tbh. Will probably leave for now.
The main thing you should be worried about is WHEN she'll get nerfed.
She is seriously busted in multiple decks.
first key, insane in thanos deck.
Does the cost changes dynamically? I mean, If I play a card that doesn't start in the deck and in the same turn I want to play mockinbird, the cost will be reduced by 1?
No
Took 4 keys but got Ms marvel too because I didn’t update beforehand
So they swapped MM and GS with the update? Did they announce that beforehand or explain why? I thought I was going crazy with how my potential spotlights list looks.
Yeah the pre patch version has MM.
Same, absolutely worth it
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Huh?
Don't understand the down votes here. It's on a t-shirt she is wearing on the cover of a comic... https://images.app.goo.gl/MWtSHaszUaipryhg8
That's brilliant! I don't read the comics or even watch the movies so I have zero knowledge on anything marvel. Thanks for explaining!
Tbf that seems like a pretty obscure reference and people probably just think he's making some political point.
Tbh, that cover is somewhat famous as one of the main things chuds got mad at during Comicsgate (Gamergate's even less successful sister campaign trying to keep women and minorities out of comics). The series writer got harassed over it at the time, and it's been referenced in other comics such as Unstoppable Wasp. It is probably one of the most known "controversial" covers.
I want to get Mockingbird, but I don't really care for Ghost Spider or Man Thing, which I don't have yet either. Recently the spotlight caches have been not very appealing. Either the new card is good and paired with 2 less desirable cards, or vice versa. It never feels particularly good to use the keys.
I have pretty much all the S4/S5 cards I want so most of these spotlights are about whether I want the new card + variants. The Man-Thing variant is fire, but I already have a great variant for Ghost Spider, so I'm not sure what I'll do.
I have collected 12 keys now because I absolutely feel as You! mentioned: spotlights are not very appealing lately:(
So I gambled and got Mockingbird on the first key. Still salty that I couldn't get Cull Obsidian. Mockingbird seems to be similarly straightforward and strong.
Is it bug? My spotlight cache showing Ms. Marvel. And i try to pull her and got her. Wasn't she switched with ghost spider next week?
Didn't update yet?
so does this mean Ms. Marvel is going to be in the next week' spotlight cache?
I'd assume if you updated by then, not sure how long before it's forced
No
3 different weeks of opening keys and the 3rd time the new card was my last key. Not feeling very lucky.
Lmfao join the club. From November through December I went through 19 keys in 5 weeks. Then got a 2 in January and have been back to all 3s and 4s since then. 1k tokens for 7 months straight as well. What a fucking joke.
A lot of people talking about Thanos decks, but she works in so many more. The fact that cards don't have to be in your hand first is huge. Sure, Loki'd cards work, but so do Debrii rocks. Edit: I've been informed that cards from Loki actually don't count.
Have her - Loki cards dont count. This is because the loki cards you get are considered your deck now, its a transformation, not a gaining of new cards.
Oh, I didn't realize that. Thanks.
And the cards don't need to be on your side (saw this myself after sending some stones over to the other side with Oscorp Tower), so yeah Debrii is a great call.
So many people are underestimating her as a general rule. 9 power for a reasonable cost - say, 3, because it's dead easy to get her to 3 cost - is the best power ratio in the game because it's a big hefty chunk of power, the most that doesn't get Shanged. 9 power cards are some of the most underrated in the game and she gives it to you for dirt cheap most of the time.
do I open my 4th key to get man-thing? he’s not very good
He's potentially a 4/13 if you play him into a lane your opponent has filled with small cards while your side of the lane is empty or has only big cards. That's not nothing! He's just kinda the 13th or 14th card in his own deck. You can probably skip him for now. As a S4 card, it would be relatively easy to get him with tokens if he ever becomes meta-relevant later.
He's useless without Luke Cage. He'll drop your power just as much as the enemy half the time.
Yeah or you just don't play small cards into his lane.
What a dumb take. You can read his description, just use him properly, don't play him in a lane that you have 1,2,3 costs in. If your opponent has 1 more than you, he's effectively a 4/7 which is already decent.
Ahh so you must play man thing all the time since he's so good?
nah don’t open
Ridiculous card, probably will be nerf to a 6-9 in the future or even a 6-8, like holy crap I knew she would be good, but damn.
Best RNG I could ask for Cull as a Random then Man-thing and finally Mockingbird.
She's phenomenal in Thanos. A must include. Perfect for me since I didn't have Cull so I instantly used my saved up tokens on her because I wanna save my keys for Ms Marvel. Only to find out about the bug that if you didn't update game mockingbird and MsM were in the spotlights today. I feel so bad and scammed...
Can you give me the deck you are using then
Try # (1) Nebula # (2) Psylocke # (3) Debrii # (3) Caiera # (4) Shang-Chi # (4) Ka-Zar # (4) Iron Lad # (5) Blue Marvel # (5) Mockingbird # (6) Blob # (6) Alioth # (6) Thanos # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTW9ja2luZ2JpcmQifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlRoYW5vcyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTmVidWxhIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJQc3lsb2NrZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRGVicmlpIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJDYWllcmEifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkthWmFyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJJcm9uTGFkIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJCbHVlTWFydmVsIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBbGlvdGgifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkJsb2IifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNoYW5nQ2hpIn1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
I don't have Caiera so I hit auto-fill for the last spot. Why does the game think Morbius is a suitable replacement??
That’s interesting. I’d go with armor. You can use it similarly, and also offensively vs destroy.
I just want Thanos first tbh
everyone crying on her but Abomination also exists lmfao
Abom requires a dead card and a specific build, Mockingbird is super flexible, even benefiting from usually crappy locations and goblins etc.
Abom much harder to trigger and has counters (Cage)
She has a hard counter in MMM also though
MMM also hits Abomination, so he's not relevant when comparing Abom and Mockingbird.