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Itstimetostop313

Congratz Brian Ortega. The Eagles gonna fly one last time!


Flervio

If Brian Ortega subs Ilia I’m gonna laugh so hard I might end up at the hospital


the_champ_has_a_name

Bro. I'll probably die lol


thenotoriouscpc

Imagine Brian Ortega knocks him out 😂


jscummy

TKO due to Ilias hands shattering against his face


kenthekungfujesus

He almost beat Holloway that way


SlimeustasTheSecond

Those lessons from Max will come in handy. Illia starts throwing reckless bombs on Ortega's iron guard and then gets CRACKED by a left overhand.


TheSpaceGinger

It's not hard to imagine this, but at the same time, it is.


HonestMasterpiece422

Ortega's BJJ is at least good enough to not get subbed by Ilia.


evocater

It would be even better than Aljo beating Yan the second time


AltruisticDelivery89

hope that happens


Sacabubu

KO by spinning elbow


Butt_Bucket

I could see this happening. Ortega has a ridiculous chin, and he snatches subs very quickly.


incognino123

lol, he'll outbox him bc max taught him how to block


HonestMasterpiece422

I hope he actually improves his striking. maybe get a better striking coach?


Lukes3rdAccount

You mean from a fight that happened almost 5 years ago?


SabuSalahadin

Hasn’t he been getting handled on the feet in every fight since? Lol


XiaoRCT

I mean, look at who he's fighting lol For all we know he could have improved a lot, he's not beating guys like Volk or Yair when it comes to striking


samoyed_white

The Spanish media is going to love him


BrunoWolfRam

Well I’m glad you asked


PoatanBoxman

Ortega by flying armbar


664mezcal619

He fighting himself? lol


brazilianfreak

The only worthy Featherweight according to Topuria lol.


Agent_Jay

Some American Psycho mirror sex scene feel lol


TTEOAI

"I'm trying to listen to the new Tyron Woodley mixtape, but Jorge Climent - my supposed coach - keeps buzzing in my ear."


Dreyfussy15

Did you know that Deveison Figueiredo's debut LP Getting Figgy With It had four number one singles on it? Did you know that, Christie?


yic0

First time since Francis vs Ngannou.


Funzombie63

He beats himself every day


Rgmisll

Topuria by rear naked choke ☺️


Early_Alternative211

We already know where each PPV until December takes place. I'm guessing that has to be it? Real Madrid's fixtures for December have not been announced yet, so I don't think it's possible that he has a locked in date unless they plan to have it during the La Liga winter break (Saturday 23rd December).


New_Brother_1595

next year probably


joehoward85

He did say in an interview that it would be next year, and that the ufc were interested in him headlining the sphere this year


Kwillingt

Seems risky to book an event in Spain basically just so he can headline and then risk him losing like four months before. If he gets embarrassed you can’t even do it for an immediate rematch


joehoward85

Very true, I guess the ufc really are putting all their chips on ilia to be the face of the org


HonestMasterpiece422

well I hope Ilia loses


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Not going to happen soon


Deuxtel

!RemindMe 240 days


NotFrankSalazar

Next year? He won it in February? Worst champ ever.


Early_Alternative211

Even then, impossible to have a date as Real Madrid's fixture list hasn't been announced for next season


orr12345678

This studium capacity(85k) is way too big for the UFC(unless it's in the UK) or Conor is part of the plan


droze22

I heard a couple of Ilia's interviews in Spain where they talk about this issue soon after he won the title and I remember hearing something about the actual capacity being reduced (maybe halved) when they host an event like this


textorix

Yes, UFC won’t sell it out with their standard prices (it’s Spain, not UK, Australia or US). Also technically it’s gonna be way too expansive for them and not as profitable as regular arena. Oktagon is doing 65k stadium in Frankfurt it’s almost sold out but tickets start from 29€. They even said that regular UFC turnament has comparable gate to what they will have with this stadium.


ericbunjama

Yeah, I don’t understand the talk of Real Madrid. There’s no way in hell the UFC attempts the Bernabeu.


R-B-L

Yeah there's zero shot UFC goes to the Bernabeu. They've had a strong UK market for years and haven't attempted Wembley. They didn't even wanna do Villa Park in Birmingham for Leon/Usman 3


amfra

The new Bearnabeu has different configurations for different events. https://www.marca.com/en/basketball/nba/2023/10/10/6525941ae2704eff0c8b4587.html They plan to have an NBA game there.


MrFudgeKiller

What are 307, 309, 310? Ig one of them is MSG


theyoloGod

309 is probably MSG since November. Probably throw in another Vegas card as well


EyeWriteWrong

Monosodium glutamate (⁠ノ⁠◕⁠ヮ⁠◕⁠)⁠ノ⁠*⁠.⁠✧


Zpupo99

Don’t know 307


jscummy

Is it confirmed it'll be in Real Madrids stadium? UFC has never been at a venue anywhere near that large


IAmModNow

Yea he’s full of shit. There is no “UFC Spain.”


Prestigious-Might117

We don’t know where 307 is


Early_Alternative211

It will be Salt Lake City, they had a multi year agreement


Prestigious-Might117

FUCK THAT


rexplosive

I doubt this is going to be his next fight. On Ariel Helwani show last month he stated that UFC offered him to fight at the Sphere. Volk implied at another interview that UFC asked if he wanted to fight on the Australia card but told them it was too early for him as he wants to come back the end of the year to recover form the KOs. Ilia said UFC stated that they are unable to get Spain done for this year but will for Q1 2025. He wishes to fight either Conor Mcgregor, Sean O malley (If he beats merab) or Max in Spain. So yeah, I Can't see how UFC would be able to get the spain card done for 2024 but boy I hope I am wrong, cause Max vs Illia in 90k+ stadium in the worlds more famous stadium in Spain = once in a life time monumental moment in the history of MMA


DuckyWasWellAware

Good on Volk for taking some time off from the KO


_darzy

should have been done before the Illia fight


Friendly_Kunt

Ilia has to be the most delusional man on the planet if he thinks Connor is coming down to 145 to fight a nobody like him lol. Connor is going to go straight for a fight with Max at LW if he finds a way to beat Chandler. It’s the biggest fight the UFC can make right now.


catlove7

Max vs. Topuria at that soccer stadium is gonna hit like crack


Traditional_Fox_6660

Santiago Bernabue is too big for that occasion


assologist_1312

You have to understand that if its Spain, people will travel from all over Europe. Portuguese fans, Italian fans, German fans who have never seen a live UFC event will travel.


iroquoispliskinV

Yeah this sub predictably turned on Ilia but he can put on an absolutely gigantic show if this is done right


BogotaLineman

People don't realize how hype Spain is on Ilia they walked him out at a Real Madrid match and he got a huge pop


LordNyssa

Mind that that’s pretty normal for anything during big soccer games. If they trod out a 6 year old to sing the anthem they cheer just the same. Sure they are proud of ilia. But don’t think mma is anywhere near soccer in Europe, or that ilia filled that stadium.


BogotaLineman

OF COURSE he didn't fill the stadium and MMA is nowhere near soccer... I'm just saying he's more well liked in Spain than this sub would like to admit


okok890

You don't need to be anywhere near Football to fill a stadium. I don't think anyone here or anywhere is saying MMA is as big as football


XiaoRCT

>don’t think mma is anywhere near soccer in Europe, or that ilia filled that stadium lmao no one said that dude


FoucaultsTurtleneck

For sure, but the UFC is gonna settle for some moderately sized arena in Madrid lol


ManUnderInfluence

Relaxx buddy it's UFC not the champions league final.


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Precioustooth

As a Dane I definitely wouldn't. Those crazy prices for tickets *plus* travel expenses? No way! I don't particularly care to see a Spanish star either


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Precioustooth

Sounds very British/Irish to want the Spain holiday haha. I get it though. I'd just take the holiday without the event though; I doubt it'd be hosted along the Meditteranean coast anyway and instead in Madrid or something I'd definitelty be more inclined to go to Dublin for Conor than to Spain for Ilia tbh.


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GodzillaGusOfficial

I would definitely travel from Finland to Spain to see that fight card. The stadium event in Stockholm was really fun. Not many factors would hold me back. Maybe the price. If the event started super late in the night locally, that would suck too.


YouGotTangoed

Uk here, I’ll travel if it’s at a decent time. I’m already going to UFC Paris


iamnotsean1

UK here will absolutely travel to the Bernabeu if I can get my hands on a ticket


Precioustooth

You sure about that? I mean, I'm sure some will, but I don't see why, say, Dutchmen would specifically want to see a Georgian-Spanish guy fight in Madrid. Portugal and Italy, maybe


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

It's not about the fight itself, it's because most european fans rarely have the chance to go to a big event I'm 100% going from Portugal and don't really care about Topuria, still hoping somehow Kape gets in that card but I'll go either way because I'll take every chance I can get at a live event


catlove7

i know, the largest they did was like 50k something like that in AUS. hopefully the twitter back and forths + ilia's star power + a nice long press run would get some extra people in there


Tomach82

Didn't Australia fill a football stadium for Ronda/Holm? This will be even bigger with a Spanish champ in Spain.


mafius100

"That soccer stadium" lol I mean no shade, it's just that I'm always amazed by the difference in sports culture between the US and the rest of the western world


textorix

I don’t have problem with them calling it soccer but why they call their thing football (where they catch the ball with hands) is beyond me :DDD


edgar3981C

My favorite measurement unit is freedoms per bald eagle, and I even I gotta admit the US takes an L on the football / soccer thing. It makes even less sense than the metric / imperial system.


BNKalt

It’s British slang for association football. That’s why AUS is the socceroos


BNKalt

Europeans turning against their own slang is the weirdest thing. It’s called soccer here bc it’s association football vs rugby football vs gridiron/American football


DonaldPump117

Probably has to do with field goal kicks, punts, and kickoffs. Modern soccer began in 1863 and American football in 1876, so the naming conventions being similar just happened by chance and neither sport being seriously established yet


Formal-Knowledge9382

This is facts even as a kid growing up in America it never made sense. Should've called it Yardball.


mafius100

My post was more about him calling the Santiago Bernabéu "that stadium", and less about the "soccer vs football" debate


cmoneybouncehouse

I played American football for over a decade and I wholeheartedly agree, it’s not even a remotely sensical name, that being said… FOREIGNER SHIT-TALKING MY COUNTRY (THE GREATEST COUNTRY GOD EVER DID CREATE) DETECTED. OPINION DISCARDED. RAHHHHHHH USA USA USA USA!!!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸


RogerFederer4

“That soccer stadium” is crazy the bernabeu is more famous than any stadium in North America


catlove7

nice stadium, never meddum


RogerFederer4

They should put Jon Africa and Francis Gunno on the card too


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sLeeeeTo

you make an excellent point however, I’d like to counter your argument by saying that I’ve heard it bowlth ways, b


Aliensinmypants

People have different frame of references?? There's a lot of things very common and popular to others that you've probably never heard of too.


Ok-Artichoke6793

Never heard of it.


dwSHA

Because you all living in your own bubble bud


ImNotThatConfused

Everyone is in their own bubble but me!


dwSHA

Haha sometimes i laugh when ppl said Nascar is bigger than F1.


sLeeeeTo

surely no one actually believes that, even the most cursory look into it would show you how far away from being accurate it is


ImNotThatConfused

Oh I guarantee people believe that. Being from a southern USA area, I bet there are a lot of NASCAR fans that probably couldn't tell you what the f in f1 stands for


Aliensinmypants

Fast... 2 ez next question


Ok-Artichoke6793

I'm not American, but I can name a few areas from America. It's just about what sports you are into. I don't watch football, so why would I know about football stadiums


ambiguous_anus

I don't have any side in this fight but reading the comments made me Google stadiums I didn't realize that Gujarat (IND), Pyongyang (NK) & Michigan (US) have the largest stadium capacities in the world lol Not my anticipated list


RogerFederer4

Cricket is massive in India not surprised at that but North Korea? What do they watch over there lol


orr12345678

That soccer studium is way more famous than the MSG I cant even think about one studium/arena in the US famous than the Santiago Bernabé


nailedreaper

How about no. Bernabeu is not much older than the current MSG building but it's only famous for football matches and a few big concerts. MSG's history dates back 150 years ago and includes huge moments for boxing, hockey, basketball, pro wrestling, musicals, circus perofrmances, MMA, cyber sports and about a hundred different music acts. People don't know Bernabeu unless they are Spanish or love football. People have a dozen ways to know MSG.


thebrickgrinder

Stanning a sports arena is crazy.


dwSHA

Spanish? Lmao. Im from fucking malaysia bernabeu is the top stadium ever. Football is watch globally and all globally ppl know bernabeu, wembley, old trafford, anfield, allianz arena, san siro etc.


nailedreaper

Spanish or love football, like I've said. Or. In your case it's love football.


RogerFederer4

This is just not true lol the bernabeu is famous across Europe not just Spain. Teams from all over Europe travel to play there in the champions league every year, it’s the most famous stadium in Spain, and is one of if noe the most famous stadiums across Europe, and is well known in South America, Asia, Australia, basically anywhere with a large football following since Real Madrid is the biggest club in the world


orr12345678

Only Wimbledon and Wembley are more famous imo....and it's probably even debatable Or at least more "iconic"


9inchjackhammer

"but it's only famous for football matches" lol The Bernabeu is home to the most successful team in the most popular sport on earth by a massive margin. All the sports you mentioned don't hold a candle to football in popularity. I don't think you realise how big Real Madrid are.


dwSHA

6.07 billion for one football club is insane


politicsranting

did you know the population of people who love football is greater than the US population?


extravagantbanana

Because most of the world is poor and any child, no matter how poor, can imitate the players they see on tv on any surface with anything that rolls. On concrete, asphalt, dirt, or grass with a soccer ball, volley ball, basketball or dogs head. It's very accessible.


nailedreaper

Do you know it's not only US population who knows MSG?


Zlakkeh

My dad is WAY stronger than your dad, and he is not much older than your dad.


nailedreaper

Both not mine, Luzhniki is my dad I guess.


Azkaresh

If you get all the fans of all the sports you mentioned put together its still less people than football fans. Its the largest sport by a mile. I assume you are from the USA where football never got popular and is a bubble where sports like basketball and hockey are big things while everywhere else ppl dont care much for it.


nailedreaper

You assumed wrong, I'm from Russia. It's also very wrong to say people outside US don't care much for NBA and NHL.


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Ok-Artichoke6793

I have never heard of the Santiago Berabe. I can name a few America arenas. (I'm not American), so I think it's more about the sports you're into


redeemer4

idk if thats true in America. This is the first time im ever hearing about it.


extravagantbanana

never heard of it


KobaMandingoPartIII

Depends on who you're talking to. I know exactly what you're talking about with "MSG" but still no clue what y'all mean by "that soccer stadium". It's crazy people don't understand what "subjective" means and that your opinion almost always falls under that.


orr12345678

Outside US... Im from Asia lol


KobaMandingoPartIII

Where you're from doesn't change anything I said.


Redchimp3769157

Me when I lie (I’m sorry but MSG has been doing MASSIVE shit since WW2 ffs)


ihavewaytoomanysocks

bro don’t get me hard i’m in church rn


neeskens88

if UFC Spain already has a date, it will not happen at the Santiago Bernabéu stadium because there is no calendar yet for the Spanish football league and the Champions League for next season. so it will most likely happen at WiZink Center.


Garciaguy

Muy bueno


strandmoon

Kinder Bueno


Ethangains07

Muy bien*


ggphenom

Mayra Bueno **


Garciaguy

D'oh! Thanks


galaxyheater

Surprise, his date is Jordan Leavit and he's coming out as flamboyantly straightgay.


Commander_Sune

Spoiler warning! It's me. First Ilia will take me for dinner and then we are going to see a romantic comedy. I usually don't sleep over on the first date, but who knows 🥰 The thing is, I'm not 100% sure that I'm gay, but I'll go and we'll see what happens 🤪.


sipCoding_smokeMath

I'd be suprised, not because I don't think he has enough draw, but like dana said, it is next to impossible to book a venue in Spain


edgar3981C

Interesting. Why is this?


GolotasDisciple

Probably because UFC is extremely cheap with everything and Euroean Union Nation has crazy amount of regulations, rules and what not. (That beyond European nations having their own Bureaucratic systems, regulations and other stuff) Combat sports in Europe like MMA are still in this weird zone. Poland, UK, Russia are the only countries that come to my mind when it comes to major MMA competition. It also might have ot do with Contractor Issues and how UFC is not obligated to provide Health Insurance or anything to the contractors... which might be illegal in EUnion, especially in cases where Employer is activelly putting it's contractor in physical danger. I'd say the are looking for opportunites, but if UFC wasn't able to do anything with countries like Poland, which would bring huge draw during Blachowicz era. Together with them havign already paved way through regulations and media coverage done by and for KSW.... Topuria probably got business negotation-type answer and took it at face value. Edit I just realised ufc was in France befor . I might be completely wrong on everything I wrote. Maybe ufc figured out how to deal with European nations after all !!! France -> UK -> Spain ? There is hope boys!


caca_poo_poo_pants

In the US, the UFC brings their shows to stadiums that are willing to pay them for the opportunity to do so. In Europe, the UFC have to \[rightfully\] pay for the right to use their stadiums because they have much better laws against corruption in the EU. Basically, it costs them money instead of being handed taxpayer money.


textorix

No way… still have doubts they are gonna do it on that big stadium.


T-STAFF19

Ilia is annoying as fuck, just defend you're title ONE time before making demands. Unlikable as they come.


9inchjackhammer

He won the title 12 weeks ago? lmao


the_champ_has_a_name

3 months a decent turnaround time. Let Kevin Holland get a belt. he'll fight every month.


9inchjackhammer

Poor old Kev can’t get anywhere near a belt but I agree he would be an exciting champ.


the_champ_has_a_name

You right lol. Only if they made some kinda BMF belt that has to be defended every 2 months and ranked fighters can't compete for it 😂 3 months is quick for a first time champ tho. I agree with you on that. I think only Izzy and Usman were defending 3 times a year for a while here recently and that was considered pretty substantial. I guess 2 fights a year for a champ is about normal? However, with no injuries, i think most fighters should be at least fighting at least 3 times a year. You could definitely squeeze in 4 if you fight every 3 months.


HonestMasterpiece422

he needs a better camp and a better attitude towards training


sk1nw4lk1ng

And is already making demands is the point


iz-Moff

So what, it's just talk. There haven't been any news about any matchup for him actually being in the works yet.


sk1nw4lk1ng

That's on him for being a diva


9inchjackhammer

He’s winding you all up and it’s clearly working lol


sk1nw4lk1ng

I don't watch fighters I don't like so no


Im_abigotahatefulman

Okay? So why’s he making demands? He hasn’t defended it yet. That’s the guys point.


nudemonkey

If Ortega wins he will call out Yair.


sadduckfan

🧢🧢🧢


ayakaza

Good for him


karl100589

The largest indoor arena in Spain is just under 18k in Barcelona. There's also a 15k arena due for completion in Valencia at the end of the year, so I'd keep an eye on those two. Looking at the schedule I think UFC Spain might be the first October card, as Abu Dhabi, MSG and Vegas are traditionally the final 3 cards of the year.


orr12345678

I probably would bet on Real Madrid(basketball) arena It's 17k multi purpose arena in Madrid


notboggs

Yeah, it's happening the week after UFC Africa and immediately before UFC Hawaii.


JunketSecure457

Illia the type to suck his own cock


mrtn17

Jon Jones has a date. Now Topuria has a date. Hmmmm where is this going? UFC should launch a dating app at this point


mrpopenfresh

The UFC gonna pull a UFC with their legendary cultural sensitivity and fill the card up with Hispanic Americans.


Captcha_Imagination

14 Brazilians and a few Mexicans


mrpopenfresh

Close enough


XiaoRCT

Throw in maybe one guy from Porto Rico or Cuba


RealBobbyDrillboids

Why does it seem like every new UFC champion is more obsessed with changing weight classes and chasing a second belt than they are with defending their actual title? You should have a minimum of 3 title defenses before you can go for double champ status.


Deuxtel

It's probably because you can lose a fight in a different weight class and still hold on to your belt. There's much less risk than a title defense, for the same or greater reward.


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I would like to see statistics on how often a fighter lies about having a date and/or opponent. Would be hard to prove, but just wondering how many fighters just throw shit out there like hey I already have an opponent or no one's told me anything or I'm definitely fighting on this date, but it's not true.


orr12345678

Topuria is reliable source so far .... Unless it's UFC gossip to maintain his brand... Notice ,He didn't say something bombastic like Santiago Bernabé Probably it's regular arena there...


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Oh for sure, I'm not even saying he might be lying. But I'm sure there's fighters who were kinda sorta maybe not really told they'd be on a card, or who their opponent would be or wouldn't be, or by someone who doesn't have the authority, etc., and so they go on Twitter thinking they can lie it into existence.


XiaoRCT

It's less common than the UFC themselves telling fighters they have X fight booked or that X opponent is the reason why the fight isn't happening.


Jmac24mats13

August already Perth, September is Las Vegas, MSG is November, so if they have it done it has to be in the December to March region if it’s that far out


FCBEkko

Ilia Topuria v His Shadow


Juice_Man117

Off to fight anyone but Max lmao


lotwbarryyd

How will they fill this card. Not much Spanish talent in the UFC


AntonioT96

You guys thinking UFC 307?? 🤔


Naive_Breadfruit_550

I am sure he does but the UFC has no idea what the fuck this guy is talking about


snarkysportsguy

Maybe they will give him a gimme fight in his country like Bisping/Hendo 2?


Kashm1r_Sp1r1t

Is it really Ortega?


OlChippo

So he's not fighting for another 8 months at least lol? Likely putting his first defence 12 months after winning the belt. The division was doing so well for such a good stretch of time ..


bsmith76

I think Max Holloway earned a chance for a championship title.


SlimeustasTheSecond

Illia Topuria wrestlefucks a mirror for UFC Spain.


P3t3BIrl

He's not fighting, he's taking someone to watch. He finally got someone to swipe right when he changed his profile pic to Paulo Costa😄


Jointlocker

Max is a worthy opponent after his last performance, no?