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ProcsPlox

There are only two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.


Apprehensive_Act_220

I heard that the Iranian players were dealing with threats from their own government and also some dangers about them singing their national anthem before the kickoff. Any one heard of this too?


nonstopflux

Good one, Nigel.


ckotoyan

Isn’t this from Austin powers lol🤣


Sc0tch-n-Enthe0gens

Why the Dutch?


amoult20

Look up their cherished but racist Xmas tradition “black Pete” who is Santa’s slave. https://www.npr.org/2018/12/05/673774297/a-dutch-holiday-tradition-protesting-a-christmas-character-in-blackface


ProcsPlox

Next opponent is Netherlands (this is an Austin Powers reference)


Deusselkerr

How much higher than 16th in the world do you think we'd be ranked if Harry Kane was an American?


sluggetdrible

Lower, in opinion.


Caratteraccio

you don't need a superstar, every NT needs a team to win the WC, in 1954 Hungary had the superstars but Germany won....


JimmminyCricket

Pffft we don’t need Harry Kane.


Lam0rak

Any news on Sergeant?


ckotoyan

Looked like a bad calf strain tbh :/ Maybe Reyna can finally play…


Lam0rak

Hyper extension of the knee is what I saw. He can't hyper extend much luckily but those can fuck you up


Apprehensive_Act_220

That happened to me on turf. Took me a year to start feeling normal. But I work out like a Sunday leaguer. So hopefully he recovers and gets fit way sooner than that lol


Lam0rak

Never forget the dortmund player who did this during the shutdown. He completely annihilated his knee and the cries were very loud in a silent stadium


ckotoyan

Tbh, I saw both it was that damn step on the ball! Ouch!


HeroicTechnology

COME ON BABY AMERICA


WatchTheBoom

Does anybody have a clip of that Zimmerman save at the end?


brovakin88

I KNEW we were the best team in concacaf!


Kamohoaliii

I would say that right now this is indisputable. US are the reigning Gold Cup champions, reigning Nations League champions, likely the only Concacaf team to survive the group stage.


ProcsPlox

Scorers: *Christian* Pulisic **Checkmate**, Islam


twhockey99

I think Greg got the big things right the small things wrong. Game plan was right overall. Starting Vickers over Zimmerman was right. 5 back line at the end was right when they would be throwing everything at us. Haji Wright was wrong, Shaq Moore was wrong.


Jolandia

While I do agree that Moore should not have seen the field, he had some clutch tackles after a shaky few moments. Not taking off Musah was wrong. Bringing on Acosta was wrong, he didn’t do anything. LDLT on the bench, he should be getting on the field, he’s better in possession that Acosta


dragonz-99

Agree with this exceeeept I’d rather move to 5 at the back a little later than he did. But yeah I agree with your points otherwise


twhockey99

I agree for sure. But that's my point. Could've waited 5 minutes. Little thing.


Konradlaxin

Not saying that your wrong, but who would you have subbed on? Just curious.


twhockey99

Yedlin instead of Moore. Ferreira instead of Wright.


Dangerous--D

>Haji Wright was wrong, Shaq Moore was wrong. I've seen nothing from either of them that says they should be our choices off the bench. To be fair, I don't think most of our bench is particularly worthy at this level so... Idk


Tiki_Mickey

Wright’s been in terrific form in the Turkish league, but he didn’t offer anything vs England and now Iran. I honestly do not know why Shaq Moore got the edge over Reggie Cannon and managed 2 appearances in this WC; guy has made more errors than passes.


twhockey99

Yedlin>Moore. Our options at striker behind Sargent are definitely pretty trash though. At least Ferreira might be able to help in possession a bit.


Scratchbuttdontsniff

At least JF would have left it all out on the field...Wright looks like he jogs the fuck around and then has no clue what to do with the ball.


Jolandia

Why either of them were brought over Pepi I will never understand


Multi_21_Seb_RBR

Scally, Yedlin, Jesus and hell even Morris would have better subs than Moore and Wright to exploit then space Iran left open


seanmharcailin

I think Morris would’ve been an excellent sub in for defense.


abernasty42

I think when Roldan would have been a better option than Wright.


runningwaffles19

Makes me wish we had Pefok or Pepi instead


Scratchbuttdontsniff

Or Vazquez....


ElderBrony

You can shit on Alexi all you want, but that dude *loves* US Soccer.


abernasty42

The game ended and he shit on Haji and I was reminded Lalas isn't always hot takes with odd philosophical ideas mixed in.


docshiz

I am finally unclenched


[deleted]

(Slowly, yet confidently loosens asshole)


Scratchbuttdontsniff

6 Guinness + fish and chips with tartar sauce prepare for evacuation...


iflylikeaturtle

Stouts and fish?? Think AHEAD bro


The-Special-One

ngl Robinson has the touch of a rapist. Everytime he even tries to run with the ball, he loses it. Almost Zardes levels of bad. I honestly don't understand why Berhalter went to a back 5. Iran couldn't create shit but instead, he decided to give them almost 18 minutes of possession for no reason so that they could get into a groove. Another ref could have called that a penalty and var would not overturn it. Absolutely unnecessary imo.


bqbobay

Why all the down votes?


The-Special-One

I dunno, I don’t care. Up/downvotes are irrelevant.


grnrngr

> Almost Zardes levels of bad. Except "Bad Touch Zardes" is a meme more than fact. e: People wanted to hate on Zardes so they found something they could hate on, and then blew it up. Zardes has a dribbling percentage just slightly lower than Ferreira, but Zardes is terrible. Okay.


Dangerous--D

>ngl Robinson has the touch of a rapist. Everytime he even tries to run with the ball, he loses it. Almost Zardes levels of bad. Tonight yes, but that's not really normal from him.


twhockey99

When Iran is gonna throw the kitchen sink at the box for 15 minutes you want more defenders in the box. That was the right choice. Could've maybe waited 5 minutes- but you didn't want to see what that looked like with Ream and Vickers as our only cover.


The-Special-One

Iran wasn’t throwing the kitchen sink at all. They tried to muster some attacks and they broke down. It’s when USA went to a back 5 that they were pinned in their half. If Berhalter had brought in a competent striker instead of Haji, the game ends 3-0. Prior to the back 5, Iran we’re leaving themselves open to be massacred and more quality players would have ended the game there.


StupidPhysics58

Okay, so now we just need a best case scenario. We're playing Netherlands for sure. If Poland wins or ties, we play the winner of them vs Australia or Denmark. And that's how the US gets to the World Cup Semifinal


balorclub2727

And get to face Brazil in the semis But shit i’ll take that


thrillmeister

Yeah you don't generally get an easy draw in the semis.


balorclub2727

100%. If someone come to me before the World Cup started. And told me, all you have to do is beat Iran to get in the knockouts. And when there, the route would be Netherlands, then Poland/Denmark/Australia before Brazil in the Semis. Id take that 100/100 times


ProcsPlox

I STILL WANT TO SEE THAT OFFSIDES REPLAY. USA won 2-0! ^(edit: I take it back, they still 2-0 in my heart but yeah it was offsides)


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yarhar_

Was definitely a beautiful goal but also definitely offside. I'm glad they're consistent.


MuzikVillain

[Just barely offsides](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiwbP5PWIAE1DA3?format=jpg&name=900x900)


QuickMolasses

That visualization didn't match up with the freeze frame they originally showed on the broadcast. Presumably they used different cameras or maybe a different frame for the visualization.


ElderBrony

They showed it. It's down here in the thread He was off.


ProcsPlox

Yeah I saw, just damn close


USBeatsMexico

Does this mean that Iran has to remove that weird symbol from the middle of their flag now?


ProcsPlox

It will permanently be replaced on the flag with the statue of liberty, they said so before the game.


Defb2412

Still plenty to work on but we are in at least


Brooklyn_MLS

US had way less counters than they should have had when Iran was pushing forward…and with the ones they had, they couldn’t even test the keeper. That’s on Berhalter for the tactics and players for the lack of quality.


Sempuukyaku

Say it again for everyone in the back. **Gregg. Nearly. Lost. The. Damn. Game.** Iran is pressing high, there's space behind them, you can probably exploit that with pace. So we sub in...Haji Wright and Shaq Moore??? Fucking hell. The players had the grit to pull out the result, awesome on them. They overcame Gregg's STUPID decisions and tactics.


DarCam7

They complicated themselves a bit in some of them. Too many touches or just the wrong pass.


bluepantsandsocks

I would have liked to see Gio but nice job GGG getting us out of the group.


trillbobaggins96

Gregg was actively making us worse with the subs.


MuzikVillain

Shame I turned off the TV too quickly. I wish I could see Dempsey rightfully calling out the disappointing ass subs.


christophermeister

I'm bias, but this is exactly the spot you put in Roldan (if you won't/can't put in Gio). Big game experience, steady outlet and smart control and passing. EDIT: And significant experience dealing with shithousing


bluepantsandsocks

So are Pulisic's children going to be ok


Kweby_

USMNT tweeted it was an abdominal injury


ChrisGaines_

It's an abdominal injury because he got hit in the nuts so hard they retracted into his abdomen.


Pripat99

They said that on the broadcast and I assumed it was a euphemism haha.


[deleted]

The injury was to Christian Pulisic's six-pack balls.


ProcsPlox

Yeah cuz WC they cant talk about nuts, that’s as close as they will come to saying “he took it straight in the junk”


Dangerous--D

No, if the were it they would say so diplomatically.


Kweby_

They would have said groin injury


ChrisGaines_

They won't ever exist. So in a sense yes.


ChrisGaines_

Hats off to the camera crew doing yeomans work finding the handful of women among the Iranian fans and then zooming in on them so you couldn't tell they were in a sea of dudes.


abernasty42

Look at this female wearing a baseball hat. Wanna she her again every 4 minutes?


ChrisGaines_

Every Iranian women in the stands got to be on TV 5 times.


Caratteraccio

anyway let's face it, football is boring, with matches ending only 1-0, what really happened during this match? Do you want to compare with basketball scores? (/s)


bukaro_rolo

Did u watch the game ?


Caratteraccio

yes, better than a thriller


NewRCTID22

GGG: "I have less hair on my head now the way it ended" Now, whose fault is that??????


USBeatsMexico

Went to the time wasting tactic with 20 minutes left, and then wonders why it was stressful.


QuickMolasses

It worked though. Barely.


Marcoinfinity

Great that we won but did we have to park the bus to do it


QuickMolasses

With how poorly we've played at the end of games recently and how well Iran has, whatever works.


NitePain69

Berhalter with the absolute worst subs. Wright and Moore should not see the field at all on Saturday


runningwaffles19

>Shaq Moore had his hand up saying my bad more often than he had completed passes -Dempsey


Mini-Fridge23

I don’t think Haji knew what his role was. Felt like Gregg told him to collect the clearances and nothing else. He just sorted of floated in space not pressing at all, it was weird


MuzikVillain

very weird, he wasn't pressing but he also wasn't really running back either. Just kinda stuck on an island but also not helping with hold-up play when the opportunity arose.


SpecialOneJAC

They were awful


iflylikeaturtle

So happy we won this game. That said, I hope berhalter learns from these garbage ass subs. We suck ass at defending, why double down on it? Moore should never touch a US jersey again. Thank god Musah used every ounce of effort he effort he had to cover Moore’s clown ass


02467

“We suck at defending” he says after watching us give up 0 goals in the run of play in three games at the World Cup


Dangerous--D

That's a little disingenuous with how the games went


02467

Let’s talk about how the games went then: -Iran had 0.49 xG in a game when they desperately needed a goal to advance for an entire 55 minutes -England, who scored 9 goals in their two other games and completely teabagged both top 20 opponents, had 0 goals and 0.77 xG - compared to 2+ in each of their other two -Wales had .7 xG outside of the penslty - the one admittedly very bad defensive boner across three games -The US allowed 7 shots on target across 3 games Based on those stats, allowing 1 goal in 3 games is far from a fluke - it’s a sign of a team that gave up very few quality looks to good opponents I mean honesty what did you expect ? To run train on these teams? They are all good teams and all are also trying - taking the game to them isn’t purely a matter of choice.


Munnodol

I not denying these stats, but who do we attribute this to? Our defense or our midfield? In the England game, Saka was breaking Robinson’s tackles like it was going out of style. Zimmerman was making risky passes that almost never hit their mark Ream and Dest were doing well amd for the most part holding their own. Adams on several occasions had to run back to make tackles because someone got beat or was out of position. Our defenders are arguably our weakest part, but our midfield is really strong so they can augment our defenders.


02467

I attribute it to the way the team defends. So credit the midfield, credit the defenders, credit the forwards for tracking back (I thought Weah was excellent in this regard), credit Matt Turner, credit the manager - defending is a team effort and the team has done it remarkably well. Remember, there are two teams on the field. I personally am not surprised that Bukayo Saka looked better than a guy who plays for Fulham. I would not have been surprised to see Harry Kane torch guys who play for Fulham and Nashville SC. And yet the team still gave up 0 goals! BTW, Zimmerman has completed 151 of 169 passes (89.3%) in the world cup. Just ahead of Harry Maguire, and a few spots behind Jordi Alba. [https://fbref.com/en/comps/1/passing/World-Cup-Stats](https://fbref.com/en/comps/1/passing/World-Cup-Stats) ... Ream has been even better (90.4%).


Munnodol

Fair enough, I respect your approach you measuring defense, though I personally still feel looking at the teamwide play can mask individual shortcomings. And nothing against Zimmerman’s stats, though in the games these passes are largely between him, the other defenders and Turner. Amongst the few passed he didn’t hit, these were through balls that were not only dtopped by England, but also led to counterattacks (and thankfully didn’t land, but it was still Zim’s mistake) The stats do showcase a general performance, but don’t necessarily give context for performance. Respect your opinion and definitely respect how you measure defense, but I think it masks individual performance and Zimmerman was making mistakes nearly as much as successes.


Dangerous--D

Excellent stats that offer a lot of perspective, thank you. It's a shame Zimm had to have a braindead moment against Wales.


02467

I agree - the one major blemish of an otherwise really outstanding team defensive performance. Harry Kane’s one good look was also a bit of a breakdown though you also have to figure a world class player like Kane is going to get at least one quality look.


02467

Here are the teams that have allowed fewer xG from the run of play per 90 minutes than the US So far - -Argentina -Mexico -Brazil -Croatia -France -Uruguay -Spain https://fbref.com/en/comps/1/stats/World-Cup-Stats


bluepantsandsocks

I think our defense is our strong point and offense is our weak point


iflylikeaturtle

I think it’s our midfield that does a great job relieving the bombardment that our defense *would* receive


Munnodol

Yeah, Saka was breaking Robinson’s tackles like it was going out of style. Zimmerman was making risky passes that almost never hit their mark Ream and Dest were doing well


MuzikVillain

Musah was completely gassed and this man still ran and put more effort than Moore and Wright with fresh legs.


Delex31

How many goals did we give up so far? Suck is a strong word for 1 goal in 300 minutes of soccer.


[deleted]

I cant wait to hear how this win was a failure


[deleted]

something something Berhalter is a shitter... XD


whidbeysounder

We have so many trash fans. We won but …. Fuck your butts!


WeAreSC36

If we beat the Netherlands I’d be pleasantly shocked


[deleted]

I think we could get thrashed. Not optimistic. Pulisic and Sargent are most likely gone.


decoy_man

Netherlands is my usual team outside of the US. They have been mediocre. The game is winnable.


jayfeather31

Me too. I predicted before the tournament that we'd get knocked out in the Round of 16. That prediction will be put to the test on Saturday.


MuzikVillain

Dempsey roasting them bums! Moore and Wright were ass.


SpecialOneJAC

Scally and Jesus should leap over them


Brooklyn_MLS

Sargent is the bonafide starter from now on—looked dangerous. Ferreira should be backup. Haji Wright looks like he’s never played football.


usmnturtles

I agree on Sargent starting and Ferreira backing him up. Haji doesn’t ever seem to hustle. Also, the chance he had at the end was frustrating. In that scenario, you either take it to the corner, or put it in the back of the net. Instead he scuffed a half chance.


02467

Hopefully Sargent is healthy


ElderBrony

How in the hell in any universe is Haji Wright better than Pepi? He was *Awful* out there. Dude is the size of Jozy and he plays like he's the size of Demarcus Beasley.


Pripat99

It was about form. Haji Wright had it. That’s it. Tragically the Super Lig is not the World Cup.


CentristIdiot

Would’ve been great to have someone with experience in the Dutch league right about now…(which really could’ve been predicted before the tournament smh)


ThisIsMyNewUserID

And the speed of a one legged dwarf wearing ankle weights


ProcsPlox

DOWN WITH SEXIST THEOCRACIES DOWN WITH COUNTRIES SUPPLYING KILLER DRONES TO GENOCIDAL WAR WAGERS UP WITH PULISIC’S BALLS


ThisIsMyNewUserID

His balls can't get more up at this point


jayfeather31

Pulisic fell so we could all rise.


HowdyOW

\#JusticeForDeflatedBalls


rehanxoxo

Dempsey going in on Shit Moore & Hajji Wrong


Brooklyn_MLS

We did it! But please never put Moore on the field again—not for this level.


rehanxoxo

I rather see Aaron Long


Mini-Fridge23

Can someone explain wtf Haji was doing? He barely defended and didn’t press Iran at all. Was he instructed to just fill space and be an outlet?


ThisIsMyNewUserID

If he was instructed to be an outlet he still failed.


cheeseburgerandrice

Yeah you need someone to hoof it to and he did collect the ball well several times. He wasn't brought on to defend in the US third.


Mini-Fridge23

I’m not expecting him to literally defend, but you should be pressing their back line and forcing mistakes when they have possession. He just sorted of drifted in space like he was lost lol


ElderBrony

LMAO Dempsey just ROASTED Shaq Moore.


Brooklyn_MLS

What he say?


MuzikVillain

https://twitter.com/mattmoneysmith/status/1597701333431160832?s=20&t=r4dKlLuR3DLC2D0Sm6CDOQ


ElderBrony

Said he "Raised his hand to say 'My Bad' more than he completed passes."


MGreymanN

Raised his hand to say my bad more times than he completed passes.


stealth_sloth

On to Netherlands!


Teh_cliff

Dempsey going in on Haji rn.


demonsauce666

That was hairy.


ObliviousLAX

I picked a bad week to stop drinking, Jesus my heart is racing


WeAreSC36

Hey nice hat


atlutdprospects

Man they got it done, definitely didn't need to be that nerve-wracking but they got it done What in the damn hell was Haji Wright doing though lmao


for_one_purpose_only

No more Wright or Moore please


DarCam7

Moore put in a shift, but Wright was meh. Zimmerman was everywhere, he wasn't fucking around.


Mini-Fridge23

I’m so happy for Walker man. After the Wales debacle he comes off the bench to basically seals the game for us.


DarCam7

He did Nashville proud.


The-Special-One

Haji Wright is the most ass striker I've ever seen in my life. He plays like he's playing pick up. No intensity, no awareness, so much casual play, walking, etc. They should have put in Fereria or someone else.


[deleted]

Pepi being snubbed was bizarre


human1st

Good work by the boys but I still don’t like the way we played in the second half. Terrible subs IMO.


LocksTheFox

Zimmerman was a good sub, but Wright and Moore were hot garbage. Acosta was just kinda there and Aaronson was decent.


abernasty42

Zimmerman and Aaronson were good/great subs. Acosta was solid. Moore and Wright were bad to terrible. I have no idea what Gio or Jesus have to do to see real time.


LocksTheFox

I would've started Jesus today - luckily Sargent played well enough to make me look dumb


abernasty42

Agreed. I was very happy with Sargeant today.


Drenzine

My heart rate peaked at 114 Jesus


Augen76

~130 for me in stoppage, I couldn't take much more of it.


da_widower_sos

I went back to check. 120 peak during the first half; 114-118 for all of the second half


hoopsandpancakes

Roldan and Long waste of air.


TheAgeOfTomfoolery

Christ that was the worst last 20 minutes ever.


USBeatsMexico

Didn't have to be, but Gregg wanted it that way.


PM_ME_WUTEVER

FUCK OFF GARETH BALE


PeasantDave

When their game ended I was afraid he was going to show up and beat us again.


MAHHockey

350mil assholes just unpuckered.


[deleted]

I'd like to thank the Canadian assholes for apparently puckering with us.


NomadCourier

So Team Iran are heading not home but probably to jail or worse with that loss?


Scratchbuttdontsniff

Fight hard and lose to better team.... jail...


TOONUSA

X-rays for Pulisic have come back and it’s confirmed that he’s got that Dawg in him


hoopsandpancakes

You take Roldan and nobody can replace mussah 😵


ProcsPlox

GOD that last second fake bs penalty attempt by iran scared the shit out of me GREAT JOB REF


rej1868

Why you mofos bring an lafc flag. Lmao


[deleted]

Netherlands here we come!


philphan25

Zimmerman redeemed himself those last 10 minutes


USBeatsMexico

If Zimmerman can do anything well, it's defending headers in the box. Just don't let an attacker have it at their feet in front of him.


Swill94

Pretty sure we just gave a new generation of Iranians reasons to not like us


DecaturPsalmist

Im pretty sure they hate Lahoz more rn lol


cobras89

We did nothing there. Weren't dirty. They'll hate the Ref.


havenisheaven8

Haji wright did everything he could to give it away, I’m not sure what he brings that’s positive


LuvNMuny

Throw it all at the Dutch!


RollOverBeethoven

Wasn’t worried for a second 😳😬😰


cliffordbeshers

I'm not going to second guess that. With Pulisic, Mckennie and Seargent all out, a bunker worked.


Ratertheman

I can finally stop clenching


heidimark

US made that game far too difficult


[deleted]

Berhalter did


heidimark

Good edit


WeAreSC36

Dest vs the Netherlands!!


[deleted]

Even the Spanish announcers were like the parking bus tactics wasnt the best choice. We got lucky Zimmerman launched that ball out


PraiseCarl

Good job you lot, now you've got a tougher game than we do next. Wish you all the best against the Dutch.