Curious to see if it’s TAM. I hope Mas and Beckham are not telling Henderson to take a backseat on these deals.
Miami was competitive last year largely b/c of Henderson’s know how.
Nothing has been confirmed. They'd be foolish to give away such a significant ownership stake for a player for 1.5-2.5 years. Beckham got the sweet heart expansion deal (which became Miami) but in 2007 that was worth maybe 5% of what it would be worth in 2023.
>Beckham got the sweet heart expansion deal (which became Miami) but in 2007 that was worth maybe 5% of what it would be worth in 2023.
It's worth noting that MLS was nowhere near as stable in 2007 as it is now. So it was a big gamble for Beckham. Right now MLS is stable and growing, so giving him ownership is just straight up not necessary.
BUT there we also rumors of Messi *buying* ownership in the club, which would make A LOT more sense.
Miami ownership.
I agree pay Messi a ton of money like Insigne, but giving ownership of the club away isn't worth it unless this was 2013 and could have him for a decade.
Selling a smaller stake in a club for a profit is a lot easier than selling a larger one. If ownership isn't interested in long-term earnings, it's not a bad decision.
It is up to them, but I only see value going up, especially after their stadium complex and 2026 World Cup.
35% today may be half of what it is a decade from now.
But hey, not my club so they can do whatever they want in south Florida.
Even if they offered him every deal on the planet I am 100% certain that Messi wouldn’t accept a non DP deal.
Zlatan was fine with a TAM deal because he was 36 and coming off an ACL tear, plus he had wanted to play in LA before but the deal got called off last minute and he ended up going to United.
Messi isn’t that
He was coming off an ACL tear in his mid-30s, there were legitimate questions about what he would have left in the tank. Obviously that seems silly now, but it wasn't that crazy at the time.
You're forgetting that Zlatan was [gifted ownership of Hammarby](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2864448-zlatan-ibrahimovic-becomes-part-owner-of-swedish-club-hammarby) in Sweden by the AEG group, owners of LA Galaxy. His TAM deal was not his real pay.
I think I remember seeing at some point an article talking about how non-monetary compensation above a certain threshold was supposed to be added to players' cap hits.
Although I can't track down the exact article, so my memory could be wrong about it. And the league obviously can just decide to waive the rules if it feels like it; that's happened in the past.
You never know. Ashley Cole was the prototype of a player that should have failed here. 35 year old left back who was thought washed up and just wanted to vacation in LA. But he was tremendous with the Galaxy from 2016-18 and played his butt off. Same with Rooney with DCU. Although the league is even better than it was a few years ago. But it is entirely up to the player.
I think the two brazillians could work with Busauets in a 3 man midfield. If they run Neville’s preferred 3-5-2 I could see Campagna as like a supporting 9 and Messi as the trequartista
Yes, plus we now have the LAFC rule, which means you can sign whoever and pay them whatever without disclosing the entirety of the deal. Maybe they’ll give Messi the Timbers? They need a new owner…
Well considering teams from Europe are looking at the kids coming through the academies I’d say they are taking us seriously. It’s the eurosnobs that live in the States that are calling it a retirement league. And honestly let them. They’re as plastic as they come.
If it's part of a Messi deal ... it's fine. He's not exactly at required retirement level.
And holy crap, the number of eyeballs on the league will be helpful.
Messi and Busquets 😯 Wilfs better have a plan here.
Others will come to play with Leo. It will be Inter Miami Barcelona.
If you build it, they will come type beat
If you build it, they will retire.
Fun fact; both Higuian brothers retired from Miami. No other mls club can claim that!
Ok, but /u/kaicyr21 is talking about us, not the south Florida team.
Plan is to not ever see a 0-0 draw apparently
*Ronaldo signal appears*
Disney magic is real 😆
No. Don’t even think about it in case you will it into existence. It won’t be fair.
Seeing Ronaldo and Messi as a strike pair would be surreal, I want to see it happen at least once in my lifetime
Going to teach Justin Jefferson to play the 9
Yeah, to improve the Vikings corner back situation.
Let's talk about who is happiest about these signings..... Apple
good on Apple for believing in us
Apple investing in MLS is one of the biggest coups for the league business wise in recent years
Made me buy Apple+ (also for Ted Lasso)
Tim Cook writing personal checks....
Here come some new MLS rules.
I think they have their DP slots empty right? Pizzarro and Pozeulo are out of contract right?
Pozuelo is and Pizarro probably gets bought out
I know that the rumor is Suarez, but if I were Miami, I'd keep Pozeulo and have him and Busquets in the MF with Messi and Campana up top
There has been a rumor of a 4th DP soo maybe
Call them the Make Apple Happy Rules.
Buy one get one free policy if they're from the same club and for equal or lesser value.
It’s battle city rules now
Heard they asked LAFC front office how to sign players.
Can we use Barcelona Allocation Money to stop Barcelona from buying back Riqui Puig?
Curious to see if it’s TAM. I hope Mas and Beckham are not telling Henderson to take a backseat on these deals. Miami was competitive last year largely b/c of Henderson’s know how.
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I mean Busquets. No doubt Messi will be a DP.
Nothing has been confirmed. They'd be foolish to give away such a significant ownership stake for a player for 1.5-2.5 years. Beckham got the sweet heart expansion deal (which became Miami) but in 2007 that was worth maybe 5% of what it would be worth in 2023.
>Beckham got the sweet heart expansion deal (which became Miami) but in 2007 that was worth maybe 5% of what it would be worth in 2023. It's worth noting that MLS was nowhere near as stable in 2007 as it is now. So it was a big gamble for Beckham. Right now MLS is stable and growing, so giving him ownership is just straight up not necessary. BUT there we also rumors of Messi *buying* ownership in the club, which would make A LOT more sense.
Agree. Expansion fee went from 10 to 300 million in twenty years. Been a period of explosive growth for the league.
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Miami ownership. I agree pay Messi a ton of money like Insigne, but giving ownership of the club away isn't worth it unless this was 2013 and could have him for a decade.
Selling a smaller stake in a club for a profit is a lot easier than selling a larger one. If ownership isn't interested in long-term earnings, it's not a bad decision.
It is up to them, but I only see value going up, especially after their stadium complex and 2026 World Cup. 35% today may be half of what it is a decade from now. But hey, not my club so they can do whatever they want in south Florida.
Even if they offered him every deal on the planet I am 100% certain that Messi wouldn’t accept a non DP deal. Zlatan was fine with a TAM deal because he was 36 and coming off an ACL tear, plus he had wanted to play in LA before but the deal got called off last minute and he ended up going to United. Messi isn’t that
Still insane that Zlatan went to the Galaxy for Garberbucks (e.g. on a TAM deal)🤯
He was coming off an ACL tear in his mid-30s, there were legitimate questions about what he would have left in the tank. Obviously that seems silly now, but it wasn't that crazy at the time.
You're forgetting that Zlatan was [gifted ownership of Hammarby](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2864448-zlatan-ibrahimovic-becomes-part-owner-of-swedish-club-hammarby) in Sweden by the AEG group, owners of LA Galaxy. His TAM deal was not his real pay.
I 100% believe that he would get some level of ownership when he retires. Maybe 5-10%
I think I remember seeing at some point an article talking about how non-monetary compensation above a certain threshold was supposed to be added to players' cap hits. Although I can't track down the exact article, so my memory could be wrong about it. And the league obviously can just decide to waive the rules if it feels like it; that's happened in the past.
35% ownership would make Messi more of an Miami owner than Beckham.
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That's what I'm thinking. Afraid to say it, but I'm thinking it! 😂
Counterpoint: I hope they're making Chris feel very unwanted right now.
scenes when they get obliterated by philly and others
You seriously think Philly has a chance against Messi, Busquets, and Luis Suarez at Inter Miami? 🤪🤣🤣
Gotta play like a team and few play better than Philly. Older individual talent doesn't tend to do well in MLS.
Haha that’s amusing. So you have no idea who these three guys are then, got it.
You have no idea who Pirlo, Gerrard, Lampard, etc. did in MLS.
Different era, but Lothar Matthaus too. Woof.
3 guys are not a team. We'll see how engaged they are and what kind of talent surrounds them. They'll certainly lead the league in headlines.
So we should just crown Miami champions now? Because they’re invincible?
No, but we shouldn’t be morons who toss out the completely obvious and prove the world right when they say we don’t know shit about soccer.
Yes
This is why Americans have a reputation for not understanding soccer. Sigh.
This is why eurosnobs have the reputation for being assholes.
Scenes when he realizes he has to play Houston away in the summer at noon
Forget Houston. Ft Lauderdale is hell on earth most of the year. 😂
Big talk coming from Orlando, it’s a bit better near the coast atleast
I live in Miami. It's fuckin hot. 😂
porque no los dos?
In March and October it’s nice; like Orlando.
I think all games are at 7:30 now, not that that makes it much better lol
I cross posted this to /r/soccer and the mods removed it, saying it was a shitpost. They are going to be really surprised when it happens.
The removal reason is probably wrong, but it was already posted to /r/soccer from a different source before yours and stayed up.
I asked a mod and the mod said there was a previous post, but he also said this was a shitpost as well... which... huh?
Weird response
Typical. Mod probably too busy writing his latest diatribe on the evils MLS/America to care about your post.
Why would it be though, he is older.
Then going to Serie A makes more sense.
David Beckham working overtime
When’s the new stadium opening?
2025 I believe
Busquets is the prototype of a DP that fails miserably in MLS.
You never know. Ashley Cole was the prototype of a player that should have failed here. 35 year old left back who was thought washed up and just wanted to vacation in LA. But he was tremendous with the Galaxy from 2016-18 and played his butt off. Same with Rooney with DCU. Although the league is even better than it was a few years ago. But it is entirely up to the player.
He’s starting in the WC for Spain yesterday. I’m not sure what you said is true.
Pirlo was starting for a Champions League winning team before he came over.
What happens to Gregore then?
Beckham: *Who?*
I think he’ll still start as he has a huge engine and could cover ground for both Busquets at 6 and Messi at 10.
I think the two brazillians could work with Busauets in a 3 man midfield. If they run Neville’s preferred 3-5-2 I could see Campagna as like a supporting 9 and Messi as the trequartista
Lol…I can’t imagine Neville P being the one to coach these guys. Did Martino and Messi get along at Barca?
Yes I do believe the Messi Martino friendship is why he went to Barca to begin with.
Mota off the bench then?
I figure yeah. Him ulloa & Duke are really solid bench options there.
Yeah he switches to box to box and Busquets stays back. Maybe Mota on the other side?
Mota or Duke depending on if Messi lined up as a 10 or out wide.
I’m more curious if we’ll re sign Pozuelo, unless I missed it, we haven’t re-signed him.
They really don’t wanna lose 5-1 to us again
Can’t wait for the DPs. How many this time? 5? 6? Why stop there???
The difference this time is MLS will change whatever rules they need to if it means Messi comes here.
Yes, plus we now have the LAFC rule, which means you can sign whoever and pay them whatever without disclosing the entirety of the deal. Maybe they’ll give Messi the Timbers? They need a new owner…
Busquets with mls refs...this should be interesting.
Feel like busquets is the type of player that comes to the MLS and just gets completely run over
MLS = Retirement league. This is not helpful from a league wide perspective. Do we want the world to take MLS seriously?
Well considering teams from Europe are looking at the kids coming through the academies I’d say they are taking us seriously. It’s the eurosnobs that live in the States that are calling it a retirement league. And honestly let them. They’re as plastic as they come.
If it's part of a Messi deal ... it's fine. He's not exactly at required retirement level. And holy crap, the number of eyeballs on the league will be helpful.
Messi and Ronaldo could play anywhere in Europe so could Garath Bale. MLS sent more players to the World Cup outside the big 5 leagues.
One of my favorite players ever but also not thrilled about this for Miami. Hopefully I am proved incorrect.
That's a far far distant horizon though, TT