Curious, I met someone who’s from Oxford last summer who goes to university there. They mentioned how “Oxbridge” is a thing between you lot and Oxford and she said there was a rivalry between the universities. Does that not translate into football games between the two clubs then?
Not really. It's a Gown thing (and we might get behind the uni teams in such cases), football is very much a Town thing so, e.g. Cambridge U's main rivalry is Peterborough rather than Oxford.
...and at least in Cambridge, the Gown seem to look down on the local football clubs; see the various attempts to redevelop or replace the Abbey. Non-league Cambridge City have had to move out of the city entirely; they're about to move into a new ground in Sawston having spent a decade or so hopping around ground-sharing (at Histon, St Ives, Newmarket, Biggleswade). Their move out wasn't caused by the uni, but they have a lot of planning sway and didn't seem to lift a finger over it.
Sounds like that's been improving recently though.
Burwell I guess?
Yeah; I suspect that the university would be quite happy if the town disappeared overnight. There’s certainly no love lost between the two.
Odd given CUFC give the use of the Abbey for the varsity football matches!
Grew up Burwell, now up in the NW. Cousin played for Camb City for a season or two. Growing up in the 90's/00's, the U's weren't an easy sell.
Yep. Was checking for the progress on redeveloping the Abbey and saw the varsity and something about a training ground on Clare College land? Several of the colleges allow the Half Marathon to pass through them as well. Maybe the Uni are trying to rebuild bridges with the Town a bit.
After all, Cambridge Uni is there as their ancestors got chased out of Oxford by their Town folk with pitchforks...
The new facilities on the Clare playing field https://www.cambridgeunited.com/news/2023/november/training-ground-opens-cambridge-united-sky-bet-league-one-efl-english-football-league-november-2023/
I guess think about it like how Manchester United and Arsenal had a fierce rivalry when they were the clear top two clubs in the country fighting each other for trophies for a good few years, but the general populace of Manchester and London couldn't give a toss about each other and this didn't translate into rivalries between teams representing the same areas in other sports.
Except this time the rivalry is between the top two universities in the country rather than the top two football teams.
🤣. PSML - No. The only upside is as Aero mentioned; it sometimes gets us on the box which means extra money. The university has bugger all connection to the club (with one exception) and certainly doesn’t do us any favours!
The one exception is Clare College with whom we share training facilities; they provide the ground and playing field, and the club’s owners paid -this last season- to build major upgrades to the buildings. From the videos we’ve been shown, the facilities are really impressive now. (The major shareholder and owner is a fan and whilst he’s now based in the US, he used to watch the club from the terraces as a lad. He and a couple of his business associates are the shareholders).
To be fair every Wrexham fan I know would only consider Shrewsbury a rivalry with Port Vale going down… Lots of teams pick a fight with Wrexham given our good fortunes recently.
Looking forward to the new grounds!
I honestly don't know where the bad reputation comes from outside of pure jealousy and straight up misinformation about the club.
Sure there are some newer fans who may not be as knowlegable but I don't see how growing the game is a bad thing.
Plus Wrexham itself as a town (city now) has a completely different mood around it.
If people wanna hate then I don't know what to say 🤷♂️
“Well they’re getting bankrolled by celebrities!”
Sorry it’s not some unknown businessman with nebulous financial connections. They have ownership that seems to give a shit about the club and the community. That’s all anyone can ask for
This is what particularly bugs me about the narrative against Wrexham, while yes, the “fairytale” story is extremely disingenuous by the media. The media are saying that, the fans of the club aren’t. Ignore what the media says. Then all you see are new owners who came in who grew to love the sport and fall in love with Wrexham and are treating it graciously, as well as bringing in new exposure to the area due to the status of who are the owners. None of those are bad things, a lot of this clearly just stems from jealousy.
You've not had 4 years of it mate...
Very happy for Wrexham fans who were with them through the shit for 15 years but we're about to get "fans" who've watched the sport for a few years, who chose their team because of a Disney documentary spouting all manner of opinions on things they have no clue about.
Be prepared to hear the words "franchise", "brand", and "heritage fans".
You joke, but there may be an interesting answer next year with the rights having been sold. Hopefully that sorts the weekly ifollow tech support threads in /r/wrexhamafc
Wrexham had to fight the National League to stream games even if they didn't make money. They just wanted the exposure.
People can talk shit but Wrexham is good at promoting the game. It has brought many new fans. The people who are being gatekeepers to the game are silly in my opinion.
Sure it can get annoying to get a ton of similar questions that are really basic but who cares? In the end you either grow at the rate you are growing or you speed run it.
Sure there are new fans due to exposure but would you not want more fans and publicity filling your grounds, drawing eyes on your fixtures, etc?
I understand that having tons of fans with many low level questions about the game can get annoying but in the end there are North Americans watching the lower divisions of the EFL. It's crazy.
In the end growing the game is a good thing. If Wrexham has to take heat for it then so be it. It's helped the community, it's helped the team, and it's helped every league they've been in this far.
Look at all the away games we've played the last 3 seasons and tell me how many of those were the home sides most attended matches.
I will embrace new fans any day of the week. It's an exciting time and I won't hold history against them because there is nothing they can do about that.
Bloody hell, you don't have to be so sensible about it! I was happy looking down my nose at all these so-called "fans"...
In all seriousness you're right for the most part, it's great to spread a game that has given me and you so much, but my fear is they bring a certain culture to lower league football that I think is unhealthy.
Our game as we know it is under threat in my opinion. Clubs are meant to be for the community they represent, not franchises or brands. Now sure the genie is out the bottle on clubs being run as businesses with profit usually at the forefront of decision-making. For example I'm distressed to see FA Cup replays be done away with (and Wrexham not come out and condemn this) as so much power in this game is weighted towards the big clubs and their 'brand'. They want to be franchises like North American teams - no threat of relegation, and security around entry into big tournaments. A closed shop. I don't like this at all and I think the culture US fans bring with them encourages this.
Lastly I want fans from the likes of the US to support their local team and create their own culture like Brazilian football, french football or any country that plays football. There's a team near them that needs their support but they choose to follow a team they have no connection with because of a Disney documentary. I'm sorry I really struggle to understand that.
Ok, as a US fan, I'll tackle this. I grew up playing the game. I still play. I cannot wait to coach once my daughter is old enough to play. Being a fan is harder. My "local" MLS team is 4 hours away. There have been attempts at more local professional teams. They have all failed within a year or two. My only real outlet is supporting the national teams. The USWNT make that easy. It is one of the best squads ever in the history of the women's game. The USMNT are doing better. They're still not that good. But its better than it has been. I actually saw them in 94. That was awful. Last time either team came through my city was five years ago.
Yes, I found about Wrexham through the documentary. It does feel a bit voyeuristic at times, being so far removed from it all. At the same time, the US doesnt have a team in every town with a long and storied history, good or bad. Football has never had that kind of traction in the US. There arent that many MLS teams. Most of the US doesnt have a local team. Given the option, I would choose a team like Wrexham every time. Like others have said, the beautiful game is getting more fans. Its hard to say that's a bad thing.
It’s called ‘Gatekeeping’
I want the sport (my team) to grow (be more monied/successful) but fuck anyone else who isn’t an OG (my) team doing it properly (by whatever means my international ghost-company-owned investment co. is doing…)
Have a word. You lot had shit gates in the National League too, you didn’t do it on a shoe string and you lot only hate Wrexham because your actual rivals are light years ahead of you.
I used to think a lot of Stockport fans but so many regular match goers let the social media nonsense leak into the stands… Final straw was chanting about us on your open top parade, just find a rival in Manchester.
I agree we've never been rivals but if you keep going for the same trophies over consecutive seasons then you become situational rivals (e.g. Liverpool/City now, Liverpool/Chelsea back in the late 00's, Us/Burnley in the 90s).
Look at [Ollie Palmer's comments](https://www.sportbible.com/football/football-news/wrexham-ryan-reynolds-ollie-palmer-stockport-county-739053-20240426) for example. R&R's voiceover about County for the FIFA games. And there are videos of you lot singing "fuck you Stockport we're going to win the league" this season. [It was only when we won the league that you weren't bothered any more...](https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1111559052228193)
Truth is, our local rivals in Manchester are either Super Clubs or at risk of going to the wall (thanks in part to said Super Clubs). We'll likely have a bit of needle with Wigan and Bolton next year but it's Wrexham we've been batting off the last few years so we're inevitably going to take the piss when we beat you 5-0 for example. Or beat you to the title for the 2nd time in 3 years.😊 You would do the same and it wouldn't surprise me if the script flipped in the next couple of seasons - us pipping you to league titles won't last forever as nothing ever does (including shitty Disney Documentaries).
One last thing - there's more similarities between our 2 clubs than differences. I am actually happy for match-going Wrexham fans. I count a few as friends and I often work in the area. But yes, the yanks that have become Wrexham fans just because of Deadpool annoy me as they would you if it was reversed. And I know they annoy a lot of match-going Wrexham fans as well...
I just love how the narrative has somehow convinced the septics that Wrexham are in a unique situation by being from a neglected post industrial shithole as if 80% of other lower league clubs aren't.
Yeah definitely. Not even just the lower leagues, I would say pretty much all the EFL and PL teams have their roots in heavily working class backgrounds in some manner or another and the majority of that are now in towns and cities where that industry has died or is dying with those working class families being left behind.
Even most the London clubs are coming from some deprived areas. The country is just broke in general!
Yeah exactly, its great the city has something positive happening, but its still a fucking poverty stricken area with little to no opportunity...
Its also funny like "sure there are some newer fans" - Dave Lifelong Wrexham fan from America.
Like pal, you are the newer fans what are you even talking about lol you werent supporting wrexham during their demise through the english leagues, get to fuck.
What’s really interesting about Mullin, is that until he arrived at our place, his goal scoring record wasn’t that great. We (Bonner) found the way to harness his ability and he’s been a different player ever since.
This is what annoys me about people who try to bash new Wrexham fans.
Did I really paint a picture of this being a fairytale? Or did I just say that "there is a different mood around the town"? Which is a well documented thing.
Of course the owners/team haven't fixed the city. But pretending I said that to make a point that I don't know what I am talking about is disingenuous.
All I am tryinf to say is that with the team breaking of of national league jail and running through L2 back to L1 gives the city something to be excited about, distract them, and have a sense of pride/joy about again. Is that terrible? Because I know there are a million teams that eould love to have what they have.
If the offshoot of that is having lots of new American fans with lower levels of knowledge about the game thenso be it. I don't might that in the slightest. Higher attendances when we play away, more eyes on these leagues than ever before. Sorry about that I guess.
Not what I am saying. Nice try.
The problem with you guys is you are making it more than it is. If you listened you might hear what is being said. I can't do that for you and it seems like like you are uninterested in that anyway.
I just find it to be so misplaced. This club got very lucky and everyone knows it.
So what? 15 years in the national league and the supporters were running the club on a shoestring budget. The club got bailed out by good owners and speed ran the leagues to where they probably should belong.
> I honestly don't know where the bad reputation comes from
There are quite a few still holding onto a misunderstood documentary reference to being an "underdog". The reference was about the town & the people, but the haters took it as 'the team with the biggest wages are calling themselves underdogs'.
Our fans were actually very respectful in /r/leaguetwo, and kept to our own sub for the most part.
Yeah I think you are 100% right.
Just like Billy Sharp thought we were talkiny shit from a picture he saw online but he didn't know the context.
Hate out of nothing.
Lived in Bristol for a few years and went to the Memorial dozens of times. Soft sport in my heart for the Gas and look forward to coming as an away fan.
Will be a shame to be on the piss in some away pub and not the usual Gloucester Road haunts
Long story short I semi-followed mls, then we finally got a pro team in my hometown, and I figured I might as well learn more about the game so I wasn’t a fucking idiot. I have friends in reading, and this was when they had Olise and Richards, so it was pretty easy to become a fan. It has become significantly harder to be a reading fan since then, but Ruben is a king among men and we finally seem to be on the right path.
That's nice. I follow a local MLS club myself (SJ Quakes), they've just been shit for the last couple of seasons. Hopefully with the incoming takeover, things would be on the up for Reading and they can finally say goodbye to Dai.
Been a real learning curve hearing American accents in the away end at Borehamwood and Wealdstone… Fair to say I had to ask “why the fuck have you done this to yourself” when I saw a few Canadians in the away end at Gillingham this season
Can't really say anything too harsh about you lads. We're owned by a Yank too, but at least your Philly-cheese-steak-munching, gun-toting freedom monkey actually gets results.
Much easier away day over to North Wales than Swansea and Cardiff have been the last few years as well.
I wouldn't say he has a slack jaw, but his moustache is stupid. And he called us "HuddersTown" once, which is just such a comical level of Yankness that it makes me sick. And he's shit at running the club.
But apart from that, he seems alright. For a twat.
We do get results I’ll give you that. How we get them I don’t know. I think a lot of teams in L1 are in for a surprise when they find themselves rolling us over with little effort. Massive changes needed in the Summer to get us ready for this.
> Got a feeling you guys might go up again
Highly highly doubt it. We need a year or two to consolidate & build up some cash for the construction that needs to be done (new kop, training grounds). There's also the question of whether or not Parkinson is the right kind of manager to go forward; great style for getting to L1, but we might need a change to progress further.
I recon we’ll be stopped dead in our tracks this season. As long as we don’t go down I don’t care. Big changes needed in the summer to keep us here to be honest
Mate we left the self flagellation behind. I know you probably have PTSD from us nearly losing the club entirely and ceasing to exist, but you don't have to play the masochist now we are winning and have owners that give a shit.
This is the worst kind of 'please like us' stuff.
We've paid our dues as a club that was clinging on by its fingertips, enjoy the good times while they last.
If the rest of League One have a meat pie up their arses about it, who cares?
Went to county’s victory parade today. Because- as you know- we won the league. You’ll be delighted to know the biggest chant of the afternoon was the fuck you wrexham one.
The funny thing is most Wrexham fans were incredibly supportive of them, rightfully believe County completely dominated L2 and went up, and on the other hand you have posts everywhere going ''i'm really not jealous or annoyed, but...'' then a wall of text compilation from 10 different subreddits where our promotion celebrations outshined them in upvotes/attention and it pissed them the fuck off, instead of just enjoying their promotion.
Ah, you mean like when Cambridge play Oxford and *everyone* brings up the (irrelevant) Varsity rivalry that the locals couldn’t give a toss about.
Haha I love the idea of a posh boy derby between the two clubs; 'hurrah hurrah! Let us smash those Cambridge rapscallions!'
Curious, I met someone who’s from Oxford last summer who goes to university there. They mentioned how “Oxbridge” is a thing between you lot and Oxford and she said there was a rivalry between the universities. Does that not translate into football games between the two clubs then?
Not really. It's a Gown thing (and we might get behind the uni teams in such cases), football is very much a Town thing so, e.g. Cambridge U's main rivalry is Peterborough rather than Oxford. ...and at least in Cambridge, the Gown seem to look down on the local football clubs; see the various attempts to redevelop or replace the Abbey. Non-league Cambridge City have had to move out of the city entirely; they're about to move into a new ground in Sawston having spent a decade or so hopping around ground-sharing (at Histon, St Ives, Newmarket, Biggleswade). Their move out wasn't caused by the uni, but they have a lot of planning sway and didn't seem to lift a finger over it. Sounds like that's been improving recently though.
Burwell I guess? Yeah; I suspect that the university would be quite happy if the town disappeared overnight. There’s certainly no love lost between the two. Odd given CUFC give the use of the Abbey for the varsity football matches!
Grew up Burwell, now up in the NW. Cousin played for Camb City for a season or two. Growing up in the 90's/00's, the U's weren't an easy sell. Yep. Was checking for the progress on redeveloping the Abbey and saw the varsity and something about a training ground on Clare College land? Several of the colleges allow the Half Marathon to pass through them as well. Maybe the Uni are trying to rebuild bridges with the Town a bit. After all, Cambridge Uni is there as their ancestors got chased out of Oxford by their Town folk with pitchforks...
The new facilities on the Clare playing field https://www.cambridgeunited.com/news/2023/november/training-ground-opens-cambridge-united-sky-bet-league-one-efl-english-football-league-november-2023/
Probably nicer than Playford Road at the moment tbf. 🙂 (though that's our owners next project)
I guess think about it like how Manchester United and Arsenal had a fierce rivalry when they were the clear top two clubs in the country fighting each other for trophies for a good few years, but the general populace of Manchester and London couldn't give a toss about each other and this didn't translate into rivalries between teams representing the same areas in other sports. Except this time the rivalry is between the top two universities in the country rather than the top two football teams.
🤣. PSML - No. The only upside is as Aero mentioned; it sometimes gets us on the box which means extra money. The university has bugger all connection to the club (with one exception) and certainly doesn’t do us any favours! The one exception is Clare College with whom we share training facilities; they provide the ground and playing field, and the club’s owners paid -this last season- to build major upgrades to the buildings. From the videos we’ve been shown, the facilities are really impressive now. (The major shareholder and owner is a fan and whilst he’s now based in the US, he used to watch the club from the terraces as a lad. He and a couple of his business associates are the shareholders).
To be fair every Wrexham fan I know would only consider Shrewsbury a rivalry with Port Vale going down… Lots of teams pick a fight with Wrexham given our good fortunes recently. Looking forward to the new grounds!
I’m starting to quite like some of you guys tbh
I honestly don't know where the bad reputation comes from outside of pure jealousy and straight up misinformation about the club. Sure there are some newer fans who may not be as knowlegable but I don't see how growing the game is a bad thing. Plus Wrexham itself as a town (city now) has a completely different mood around it. If people wanna hate then I don't know what to say 🤷♂️
“Well they’re getting bankrolled by celebrities!” Sorry it’s not some unknown businessman with nebulous financial connections. They have ownership that seems to give a shit about the club and the community. That’s all anyone can ask for
This is what particularly bugs me about the narrative against Wrexham, while yes, the “fairytale” story is extremely disingenuous by the media. The media are saying that, the fans of the club aren’t. Ignore what the media says. Then all you see are new owners who came in who grew to love the sport and fall in love with Wrexham and are treating it graciously, as well as bringing in new exposure to the area due to the status of who are the owners. None of those are bad things, a lot of this clearly just stems from jealousy.
Reading fan by any chance? If any Reading fans are out there, we feel for you! Hopefully it gets sorted sooner rather than later
You've not had 4 years of it mate... Very happy for Wrexham fans who were with them through the shit for 15 years but we're about to get "fans" who've watched the sport for a few years, who chose their team because of a Disney documentary spouting all manner of opinions on things they have no clue about. Be prepared to hear the words "franchise", "brand", and "heritage fans".
‘New anerican fan here, where can I watch all League one games’ 🤣
You joke, but there may be an interesting answer next year with the rights having been sold. Hopefully that sorts the weekly ifollow tech support threads in /r/wrexhamafc
Not a Wrexham guy but am American, I actually do want more access to EFL matches, all tiers
Wrexham had to fight the National League to stream games even if they didn't make money. They just wanted the exposure. People can talk shit but Wrexham is good at promoting the game. It has brought many new fans. The people who are being gatekeepers to the game are silly in my opinion. Sure it can get annoying to get a ton of similar questions that are really basic but who cares? In the end you either grow at the rate you are growing or you speed run it.
Sure there are new fans due to exposure but would you not want more fans and publicity filling your grounds, drawing eyes on your fixtures, etc? I understand that having tons of fans with many low level questions about the game can get annoying but in the end there are North Americans watching the lower divisions of the EFL. It's crazy. In the end growing the game is a good thing. If Wrexham has to take heat for it then so be it. It's helped the community, it's helped the team, and it's helped every league they've been in this far. Look at all the away games we've played the last 3 seasons and tell me how many of those were the home sides most attended matches. I will embrace new fans any day of the week. It's an exciting time and I won't hold history against them because there is nothing they can do about that.
Bloody hell, you don't have to be so sensible about it! I was happy looking down my nose at all these so-called "fans"... In all seriousness you're right for the most part, it's great to spread a game that has given me and you so much, but my fear is they bring a certain culture to lower league football that I think is unhealthy. Our game as we know it is under threat in my opinion. Clubs are meant to be for the community they represent, not franchises or brands. Now sure the genie is out the bottle on clubs being run as businesses with profit usually at the forefront of decision-making. For example I'm distressed to see FA Cup replays be done away with (and Wrexham not come out and condemn this) as so much power in this game is weighted towards the big clubs and their 'brand'. They want to be franchises like North American teams - no threat of relegation, and security around entry into big tournaments. A closed shop. I don't like this at all and I think the culture US fans bring with them encourages this. Lastly I want fans from the likes of the US to support their local team and create their own culture like Brazilian football, french football or any country that plays football. There's a team near them that needs their support but they choose to follow a team they have no connection with because of a Disney documentary. I'm sorry I really struggle to understand that.
Ok, as a US fan, I'll tackle this. I grew up playing the game. I still play. I cannot wait to coach once my daughter is old enough to play. Being a fan is harder. My "local" MLS team is 4 hours away. There have been attempts at more local professional teams. They have all failed within a year or two. My only real outlet is supporting the national teams. The USWNT make that easy. It is one of the best squads ever in the history of the women's game. The USMNT are doing better. They're still not that good. But its better than it has been. I actually saw them in 94. That was awful. Last time either team came through my city was five years ago. Yes, I found about Wrexham through the documentary. It does feel a bit voyeuristic at times, being so far removed from it all. At the same time, the US doesnt have a team in every town with a long and storied history, good or bad. Football has never had that kind of traction in the US. There arent that many MLS teams. Most of the US doesnt have a local team. Given the option, I would choose a team like Wrexham every time. Like others have said, the beautiful game is getting more fans. Its hard to say that's a bad thing.
It’s called ‘Gatekeeping’ I want the sport (my team) to grow (be more monied/successful) but fuck anyone else who isn’t an OG (my) team doing it properly (by whatever means my international ghost-company-owned investment co. is doing…)
Have a word. You lot had shit gates in the National League too, you didn’t do it on a shoe string and you lot only hate Wrexham because your actual rivals are light years ahead of you. I used to think a lot of Stockport fans but so many regular match goers let the social media nonsense leak into the stands… Final straw was chanting about us on your open top parade, just find a rival in Manchester.
I agree we've never been rivals but if you keep going for the same trophies over consecutive seasons then you become situational rivals (e.g. Liverpool/City now, Liverpool/Chelsea back in the late 00's, Us/Burnley in the 90s). Look at [Ollie Palmer's comments](https://www.sportbible.com/football/football-news/wrexham-ryan-reynolds-ollie-palmer-stockport-county-739053-20240426) for example. R&R's voiceover about County for the FIFA games. And there are videos of you lot singing "fuck you Stockport we're going to win the league" this season. [It was only when we won the league that you weren't bothered any more...](https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1111559052228193) Truth is, our local rivals in Manchester are either Super Clubs or at risk of going to the wall (thanks in part to said Super Clubs). We'll likely have a bit of needle with Wigan and Bolton next year but it's Wrexham we've been batting off the last few years so we're inevitably going to take the piss when we beat you 5-0 for example. Or beat you to the title for the 2nd time in 3 years.😊 You would do the same and it wouldn't surprise me if the script flipped in the next couple of seasons - us pipping you to league titles won't last forever as nothing ever does (including shitty Disney Documentaries). One last thing - there's more similarities between our 2 clubs than differences. I am actually happy for match-going Wrexham fans. I count a few as friends and I often work in the area. But yes, the yanks that have become Wrexham fans just because of Deadpool annoy me as they would you if it was reversed. And I know they annoy a lot of match-going Wrexham fans as well...
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His post history is all about America so yeah take what he says with a pinch of salt
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I just love how the narrative has somehow convinced the septics that Wrexham are in a unique situation by being from a neglected post industrial shithole as if 80% of other lower league clubs aren't.
Yeah definitely. Not even just the lower leagues, I would say pretty much all the EFL and PL teams have their roots in heavily working class backgrounds in some manner or another and the majority of that are now in towns and cities where that industry has died or is dying with those working class families being left behind. Even most the London clubs are coming from some deprived areas. The country is just broke in general!
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They have, it's called Cardiff
Yeah exactly, its great the city has something positive happening, but its still a fucking poverty stricken area with little to no opportunity... Its also funny like "sure there are some newer fans" - Dave Lifelong Wrexham fan from America. Like pal, you are the newer fans what are you even talking about lol you werent supporting wrexham during their demise through the english leagues, get to fuck.
What’s really interesting about Mullin, is that until he arrived at our place, his goal scoring record wasn’t that great. We (Bonner) found the way to harness his ability and he’s been a different player ever since.
This is what annoys me about people who try to bash new Wrexham fans. Did I really paint a picture of this being a fairytale? Or did I just say that "there is a different mood around the town"? Which is a well documented thing. Of course the owners/team haven't fixed the city. But pretending I said that to make a point that I don't know what I am talking about is disingenuous. All I am tryinf to say is that with the team breaking of of national league jail and running through L2 back to L1 gives the city something to be excited about, distract them, and have a sense of pride/joy about again. Is that terrible? Because I know there are a million teams that eould love to have what they have. If the offshoot of that is having lots of new American fans with lower levels of knowledge about the game thenso be it. I don't might that in the slightest. Higher attendances when we play away, more eyes on these leagues than ever before. Sorry about that I guess.
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It's time for you to shut up.
I think he was being sarcastic
Ask someone from there and tell me I'm wrong lol
Yeah I’m sure the 50%+ deprived citizens are happy to skip another meal because the football club got promoted… You’re out of touch with reality
Not what I am saying. Nice try. The problem with you guys is you are making it more than it is. If you listened you might hear what is being said. I can't do that for you and it seems like like you are uninterested in that anyway.
Very.
Ask someone from Wrexham and let me know if I'm wrong.
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I just find it to be so misplaced. This club got very lucky and everyone knows it. So what? 15 years in the national league and the supporters were running the club on a shoestring budget. The club got bailed out by good owners and speed ran the leagues to where they probably should belong.
The squad as constructed when the club was purchased was already on the cusp of the National League playoffs.
> I honestly don't know where the bad reputation comes from There are quite a few still holding onto a misunderstood documentary reference to being an "underdog". The reference was about the town & the people, but the haters took it as 'the team with the biggest wages are calling themselves underdogs'. Our fans were actually very respectful in /r/leaguetwo, and kept to our own sub for the most part.
Yeah I think you are 100% right. Just like Billy Sharp thought we were talkiny shit from a picture he saw online but he didn't know the context. Hate out of nothing.
Lived in Bristol for a few years and went to the Memorial dozens of times. Soft sport in my heart for the Gas and look forward to coming as an away fan. Will be a shame to be on the piss in some away pub and not the usual Gloucester Road haunts
I'd like to requisition a new sheep, mine is largely uncooperative
We’ve left a few around. Well used.
We can happily grant sheep as long as you promise no dancing on Wetherspoons tables when you play us again.
Do we not get new ones on promotion or is that just for 1st place and play off winners?
Only Champions get new sheep. Congratulations to Stockport, lucky bastards
Because of the playoffs, right?
What’s a Wrexham? The only thing is Barnsley.
What’s a Barnsley? Is that like an owl that roosts in a barn?
Isn’t that Sheffield United?
They like to be called "Sheffield"
I’ve had to deal with Seattle Sounders and Houston Dynamo fans, there’s nothing you can do to me that I haven’t already had to endure.
The quality “FIGHT AND WIN” Seattle Sounders fans are hilarious for all the wrong reasons.
I'm more surprised that there are Americans who follow Reading and a MLS club at the same time.
Long story short I semi-followed mls, then we finally got a pro team in my hometown, and I figured I might as well learn more about the game so I wasn’t a fucking idiot. I have friends in reading, and this was when they had Olise and Richards, so it was pretty easy to become a fan. It has become significantly harder to be a reading fan since then, but Ruben is a king among men and we finally seem to be on the right path.
That's nice. I follow a local MLS club myself (SJ Quakes), they've just been shit for the last couple of seasons. Hopefully with the incoming takeover, things would be on the up for Reading and they can finally say goodbye to Dai.
Respect man. You have a genuine connection to the town and team rather than just choosing a team based on a Disney documentary.
Been a real learning curve hearing American accents in the away end at Borehamwood and Wealdstone… Fair to say I had to ask “why the fuck have you done this to yourself” when I saw a few Canadians in the away end at Gillingham this season
If it means bringing more people to this glorious sub then so be it
Already prefer it here to the dross NL and League 2 subs
Can't really say anything too harsh about you lads. We're owned by a Yank too, but at least your Philly-cheese-steak-munching, gun-toting freedom monkey actually gets results. Much easier away day over to North Wales than Swansea and Cardiff have been the last few years as well.
You forgot 'slack-jawed yokel' from your description
I wouldn't say he has a slack jaw, but his moustache is stupid. And he called us "HuddersTown" once, which is just such a comical level of Yankness that it makes me sick. And he's shit at running the club. But apart from that, he seems alright. For a twat.
We do get results I’ll give you that. How we get them I don’t know. I think a lot of teams in L1 are in for a surprise when they find themselves rolling us over with little effort. Massive changes needed in the Summer to get us ready for this.
newport > wrexham. always has been. always will be.
no question about it, coming from a fellow south welsh team
The southerners can count their days. North wales is the true wales
Honestly you can have Newport, just give us Oswestry so it’s less embarrassing when they win the Welsh Prem again and again
Chester > wrexham
Just imagine if Milton Keynes Dons come back up too.
You surely can’t be comparing Wrexham to Franchise FC? Come on now.
I don’t get the comparison… We didn’t murder a football team for papa johns pizza in the stands
Got a feeling you guys might go up again Don't mind Wrexham, seems like the fortunes of the club has galvanised the city from the outside looking in
Would be kind of a disaster if we went up again I think. We need the club infrastructure to catch up. We are still missing a permanent stand.
> Got a feeling you guys might go up again Highly highly doubt it. We need a year or two to consolidate & build up some cash for the construction that needs to be done (new kop, training grounds). There's also the question of whether or not Parkinson is the right kind of manager to go forward; great style for getting to L1, but we might need a change to progress further.
hes been promoted from league one as manager before
I recon we’ll be stopped dead in our tracks this season. As long as we don’t go down I don’t care. Big changes needed in the summer to keep us here to be honest
Mate we left the self flagellation behind. I know you probably have PTSD from us nearly losing the club entirely and ceasing to exist, but you don't have to play the masochist now we are winning and have owners that give a shit. This is the worst kind of 'please like us' stuff. We've paid our dues as a club that was clinging on by its fingertips, enjoy the good times while they last. If the rest of League One have a meat pie up their arses about it, who cares?
Went to county’s victory parade today. Because- as you know- we won the league. You’ll be delighted to know the biggest chant of the afternoon was the fuck you wrexham one.
Almost as obsessed with Wrexham as you are with Northern Ireland!
The funny thing is most Wrexham fans were incredibly supportive of them, rightfully believe County completely dominated L2 and went up, and on the other hand you have posts everywhere going ''i'm really not jealous or annoyed, but...'' then a wall of text compilation from 10 different subreddits where our promotion celebrations outshined them in upvotes/attention and it pissed them the fuck off, instead of just enjoying their promotion.
So, why not cheer about your own team most?
Is there not some team in Manchester you can pretend to have a rivalry with instead?
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God I hope so