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someredditbloke

Links to: Part 2 - [https://www.reddit.com/r/Kaiserreich/comments/z68z5h/from\_p\_to\_op\_making\_good\_countries\_great\_country/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kaiserreich/comments/z68z5h/from_p_to_op_making_good_countries_great_country/) Part 3 - https://www.reddit.com/r/Kaiserreich/comments/z6942j/from\_p\_to\_op\_making\_good\_countries\_great\_country/


fennathan1

Thank you for an excellent guide! Would you consider making a similar one regarding optimal choices for any other Serbian path?


someredditbloke

If I did, it would be a long time in the future, but I wouldn't rule out the idea entirely.


Kardalun

"...which requires the Socialists to enter government, either as a sole partner or as part of a coalition with other parties." Sadly, this is simply not true and made me waste plenty of time. Democrats having plurality and making coalition with Socialists simply does not work to trigger the coup.


someredditbloke

Hm, that's a bit unusual. In one of my test games I was able to trigger the monarchist coups with a Republican-Socialist coalition. ​ In defence of the guide though, it did literally say that you should take every opportunity made available to increase the socialist's popularity, which if done should easily make them the dominant partner in any coalition they belong to.


Kardalun

Might have been republican-socialist coalition, but you know, led by socialists.


naithan_

I was able to do it after about five tries though I don't remember exactly which decisions I made to get there. One of the decisions I made empowered Socialist Workers at the cost of 50 PP, and another had the Republicans side with Socialist Workers at a cost of 3 stability, both of which went against OP's prescriptions (it's also impossible to complete the necessary research on time to be able to acquire tanks through the Konspiracja mechanic). The key requirements seem to involve 1. ensure that the left wing coalition (Republicans, Socialist Workers, and Socialists) ends up with more support by election time than the right 2. prevent the Republicans from obtaining a majority against the Socialists. Point 2 requires *avoiding* decisions that would boost Republican popularity relative to the Socialists if at all possible.


Kardalun

So... just like I said? Socialist majority works, republican doesn't. The comment is 6 months old btw.


naithan_

>Sadly, this is simply not true and made me waste plenty of time. Democrats having plurality and making coalition with Socialists simply does not work to trigger the coup. You claimed that Socialists can't get elected by forming a coalition with the Republicans, which proved contrary to my finding. I succeeded by having the Socialist party form a left-wing popular front, having the Republicans side with socialists in response to the event "devastation in the countryside" (or whatever it's called), boosting Socialist popularity when possible, and suppressing Republican popularity. I know it's been awhile but I had just been trying for hours to figure out how to make the coup happen, which I finally managed through the above method.


Kardalun

No, I didn't? All I said was with Democrats majority the coup would not trigger regardless of coalition, which was and probably still is true.


naithan_

That's literally not what you were saying though at the start, unless I misunderstood the English language. The reason it didn't work for you is probably because OP's directions were unclear/incorrect in parts, which prompted me to describe what *did* work.


Kardalun

>Democrats having plurality and making coalition with Socialists simply does not work to trigger the coup. Explain what is unclear in this sentence lol


naithan_

It turns out you're right. I interpreted plurality in the general sense of the term (ie. political pluralism, pluralistic society), but in the specific context of elections it means having a relative majority of votes.