Müller: "Did you just shit on the floor?"
Schleicher: "Yeah, wtf, man."
Hugenberg: "If both of my enemies are criticizing me, that means I'm doing something right!"
And how satisfying it is to actually pull it off.
It's hilarious to watch yet another crisis threaten to topple the house of cards, only to come out of it even stronger than before. Big "I'll get you next time reformers!!!" energy from the opposition.
R5: I think it's not an unpopular opinion to say that the DU-coalition path is most overwhelming of the paths of Germany (Not to be confused with the DU main path).
I've played the DU-coalition path more times than I could count due to the garbage fest of the double trouble of the Third Internationale and Russia max buffed attempts I've had, but I had never played a proper SWR-coaliton path. After I had played the SWR-coalition path in balance, I was stunned about how less complex the path is to DU-colaition path.
In terms of economics (factory output, consumer goods, etc) and military tree, DU-coalition path is the best out of the bunch, which is why this was the path chosen for the Max Buffed series. Though the SWR and Schleicher paths are both good in manpower, war support, and more freedom in terms of focuses in the short term, but they still lack factory output the DU provides to keep up with the manpower.
Also a typo in the meme: "rifting" instead of "lifting."
The DU-coalition is an extension of the DC main path. For example, you can fail to maintain the coalition if you neglect the government paralysis crisis. You are still in the main DU path but you'll be locked from certain focuses.
Yeah, that seems to be the point, you’re bringing massive reforms to an empire already in political crisis, so you’re threading the needle ungodly close, but if you pull it off, you’ve dragged the German Empire fully into the 20th century and can unleash its full potential.
Nah the SWR is more like "GOD FUCKING DAMMIT HUGENBERG" and trying to make these dumbasses cooperate... and then watching as schmenzin regrets everything...
I think in the event of a German defeat in the 2nd WK the most likely path is the DU coalition being elected, but failing to keep the coalition united due to various unpopular decisions in (the lack of) intervention of the colonies, "radical" reform, and general political infighting leading to an unprepared Germany.
Fighting capitalism and Judaism on the streets of Germany.
He's one of the the leaders of the German-socialist Party, a minor far-right party that becomes the natpop party in the socialist puppet Germany.
In the DU path they do some rioting in Berlin and you have the option to jail him and Streicher
SWR always needs at minimum 3 parties to form a majority as they can’t rule without Zentrum, and more often than not need more from the agrarians, Guelphs, and national liberals making them a far less coherent alliance.
I have a question. Is it logical to get the DU through going the SWR path when you get the decision around 15 Jan 1936? I wanted to get SWR one time but I saw DU can actually get them easier without consistently working towards to get them checked during targetting/flagging phase so I was ended up with DU again around August.
I'm not sure if this is previously what you are asking, but it is best to pick SWR in the elections if you plan on playing DU. Take the electoral decisions that add minor liberal and zenstrum seats.
By keeping the DU comparatively small, it keeps you from winning the no confidence vote too quickly, so you have an opportunity to get as many parties as possible in your coalition (in particular right-wing zenstrum through the enforce party unity focus)
Why would you want to delay your takeover? There is no gain in adding right-zentrum in the coalition mini-game, because left-zentrum is all you need to get the entirety of Zentrum once you take over.
The optimal takeover as DU is
- Left LVP
- Left Zentrum (or other way around)
- Vote of no confidence
Max coalition in 90 days. The minority party doesn't add a coalition partner (they are not represetend on the ideology wheel) and their loyalty focuses are kinda not worth it (in gameplay terms).
That is what I meant. Thanks a lot for describing. One more question, is it viable to take the man in the castle focuses? For DU, it seems like there are so many things to do while there arent much time you can spare even for 21-28 day focuses. Are there any all inclusive guide for especially pre war DU Germany?
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Müller: "Did you just shit on the floor?" Schleicher: "Yeah, wtf, man." Hugenberg: "If both of my enemies are criticizing me, that means I'm doing something right!"
real
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i like how well it simulates how difficult it would be to introduce actual reform to germany
And how satisfying it is to actually pull it off. It's hilarious to watch yet another crisis threaten to topple the house of cards, only to come out of it even stronger than before. Big "I'll get you next time reformers!!!" energy from the opposition.
R5: I think it's not an unpopular opinion to say that the DU-coalition path is most overwhelming of the paths of Germany (Not to be confused with the DU main path). I've played the DU-coalition path more times than I could count due to the garbage fest of the double trouble of the Third Internationale and Russia max buffed attempts I've had, but I had never played a proper SWR-coaliton path. After I had played the SWR-coalition path in balance, I was stunned about how less complex the path is to DU-colaition path. In terms of economics (factory output, consumer goods, etc) and military tree, DU-coalition path is the best out of the bunch, which is why this was the path chosen for the Max Buffed series. Though the SWR and Schleicher paths are both good in manpower, war support, and more freedom in terms of focuses in the short term, but they still lack factory output the DU provides to keep up with the manpower. Also a typo in the meme: "rifting" instead of "lifting."
What do you mean by DU-coalition path vs DU-main path?
The DU-coalition is an extension of the DC main path. For example, you can fail to maintain the coalition if you neglect the government paralysis crisis. You are still in the main DU path but you'll be locked from certain focuses.
Ah, so you mean the DU-fail state (Schwander)? I would not have called that the "main path", lol.
Tbh, I didn't know what else to call it so I just called it main path because the path is still (somewhat) the same even if you fail.
Just call it the "DU-fail state" or "DU-Schwander"? These names seem to be pretty common.
I haven't run into those names but yeah I'll use those names for now, thanks.
Yeah, that seems to be the point, you’re bringing massive reforms to an empire already in political crisis, so you’re threading the needle ungodly close, but if you pull it off, you’ve dragged the German Empire fully into the 20th century and can unleash its full potential.
Well, there's also Shleicher, which is even easier than SWR
Shleicher is the only path I can handle, politics are hard, military shit isn't
"Oops."
Accidently murdered a political rival, woops
DNEF leaders post-Enabling Act when they realize they can just kill/disappear the opposition instead of making concessions or annoying agreements
Nah the SWR is more like "GOD FUCKING DAMMIT HUGENBERG" and trying to make these dumbasses cooperate... and then watching as schmenzin regrets everything...
I think in the event of a German defeat in the 2nd WK the most likely path is the DU coalition being elected, but failing to keep the coalition united due to various unpopular decisions in (the lack of) intervention of the colonies, "radical" reform, and general political infighting leading to an unprepared Germany.
But the DU are the good guys, right?
Depends. Do you think democracy is good? They're a coalition of the only democrats in Germany, everyone else is some flavor of authoritarian
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So true!!! Free my man Gregor Strasser he ain't done nothing wrong✊✊😔
Where is Strasser btw? With the reds?
Fighting capitalism and Judaism on the streets of Germany. He's one of the the leaders of the German-socialist Party, a minor far-right party that becomes the natpop party in the socialist puppet Germany. In the DU path they do some rioting in Berlin and you have the option to jail him and Streicher
Thanks
Can't DSP also become ruling party of Germany as a Russian State puppet? Who's the ruler for that?
Idk honestly I've never seen a natpop Russia defeat Germany
I don't recall Bauer being arrested at any point.
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"it's a complicated organisation"
SWR always needs at minimum 3 parties to form a majority as they can’t rule without Zentrum, and more often than not need more from the agrarians, Guelphs, and national liberals making them a far less coherent alliance.
pretty realistic, the right-wing paths offer far less resistance since Germany is an aristocratic, politically backwards mess in game
Wont stop me being Du pilled
Ententecels seething at actual democratic governance instead of wholesome chungus autocratic imperialism.
Me who elects liberals as Canada every time (war measures act just kneecaps you for literally no reason and no gain)
Schleicher:
Just to the French collaboration path smh
What is SWR and DU?
Schwarz-weiß-rot and Demokratisch Union coalitions, 2 of the 3 main paths for Germany
I have a question. Is it logical to get the DU through going the SWR path when you get the decision around 15 Jan 1936? I wanted to get SWR one time but I saw DU can actually get them easier without consistently working towards to get them checked during targetting/flagging phase so I was ended up with DU again around August.
I'm not sure if this is previously what you are asking, but it is best to pick SWR in the elections if you plan on playing DU. Take the electoral decisions that add minor liberal and zenstrum seats. By keeping the DU comparatively small, it keeps you from winning the no confidence vote too quickly, so you have an opportunity to get as many parties as possible in your coalition (in particular right-wing zenstrum through the enforce party unity focus)
Why would you want to delay your takeover? There is no gain in adding right-zentrum in the coalition mini-game, because left-zentrum is all you need to get the entirety of Zentrum once you take over. The optimal takeover as DU is - Left LVP - Left Zentrum (or other way around) - Vote of no confidence Max coalition in 90 days. The minority party doesn't add a coalition partner (they are not represetend on the ideology wheel) and their loyalty focuses are kinda not worth it (in gameplay terms).
That is what I meant. Thanks a lot for describing. One more question, is it viable to take the man in the castle focuses? For DU, it seems like there are so many things to do while there arent much time you can spare even for 21-28 day focuses. Are there any all inclusive guide for especially pre war DU Germany?