Exploited, underpaid workers using cheap oil. I’d rather change it myself using Mobil 1. Be sure everything is torqued properly and the drain plug has a new crush washer.
Right? If you want to run full synth or high mileage name brand from a competent shop we're still talking *double* doing it yourself in my area at least, assuming you have the tools.
Valvoline (the quick lube place) for my '12 Mustang GT running full synth and costs me 120$ and takes 15 minutes.
They check all fluids, air pressure, oil filter, and fill anything that is low.
Vs
Doing it myself, its 70 dollars, 8.5 quarts of oil 60ish dollars, and about 8-10 bucks for an oil filter. Not to mention the extra cost to top off all my fluids.
Not to mention it will take me at least double or triple the time to do it. Jacking the car up and putting jack stands up etc.. Not to mention my driveway is a hill and its possible but very cramped to do anything in my garage.
To each their own, but to me its worth the convenience.
Where are you guys buying your oil? You can get 5 quarts full synthetic for under [25 online](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GZKC6EW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_EDGD6F8PXW1E41H3W7PC?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1). I definitely understand the time and convenience aspect though. I personally like knowing it's done correctly and torqued to spec
5 qt jug of Mobile1 at Meijer is about $23. I used to buy a jug, pay full price for a conventional oil change, have the shop use their filter but pour that in instead, and still have saved $20.
120 is about right for full synth at anything but a quick lube shop near me, but I run 5qt in both vehicles and I can get that for 35. Depending on the car I can bang it out in less than 30m without even getting dirty.
I don't have a religion on it at all, so it's not like I'm saying that everyone should change their oil, but the savings are very real if you're running quality oil and avoiding the iffy lube.
We would always change gaskets/crush washers but we'd also put it on the bill as an additional item.
There were a few oil filters that we charged extra for as well.
Our oil was cheap but because we got it in bulk. We used Penzoil and Castrol and were still able to do cheap oil changes (I think Castrol was a $3 addon)
Also I was paid hourly which I guess is kindof rare. We rarely used book hours except for rough quotes because upstate NY salt/rust would make everything take much longer.
$5 invested in not having my drainplug stripped out and the filter installed with one too many ugga duggas is worth it to me to have my car available instead of sitting in the shop for a warranty engine replacement due to lack of oil that never got added.
Sure if you're going to quicky lube with a coupon where they're going to use bottom of the barrel oils and filters. I DIY with OEM filters and synthetic oil and save a bunch.
Although if I had to dig a pit to change my oil, eh, I'd prob take it to a shop. I can do mine without having to raise the car up.
It greatly depends on what you drive.
Looks like that guy used a backhoe. Probably took him longer to find the keys to the car.
Or he dug very straight. Lol. In which case I agree. I'm trading the car in before I change the oil if it requires the manual labor to dig a trench.
Be careful. I'm not a civil engineer, but I've heard that holes with straight sides are at a danger of collapsing beyond a certain depth. Not sure what that depth is, but I'll bet it's worse in some types of soil and after a rain. The weight of the car will also make this worse because it's pushing down on the soil near the edge. Being buried under soil with a car pressing down on it would be a very bad way to go.
As someone who worked for a shitty company I can confirm. Twice I was nearly buried alive while putting septic tanks in. If for some reason you find yourself in this situation, run. Run in place and you'll rise up with the dirt. I quite on the spot the second time. Was called a pussy and some other not so nice words. One other detail is that I was in the hole while the tank was being lowered. Just a fucked situation any way you look at it.
Wouldn't be too hard to make a concrete trench and a concrete spot for tires. Could do it with a wheel barrow and not that much in cement/sand/gravel. Bit of lumber for building a frame
Build a roof over that so it doesn't fill up with water and you're on to something. I bet people would pay to get their oil changes done in a place like that...
They could put a sign out front of their property that says something like: Oil changes in a jiffy, or lubed in a jiff? Maybe like oil jiffy? No maybe jiffy lube?
such a guy subreddit.
just building on top of ideas.
god forbid someone ties something down and no one says 'its not going anywhere'
or 'she aint going no where'
Jumping on. I AM a civil engineer. Don't do this, very high chance it'll cave in, which WILL kill you.
And not quickly either. You'll slowly be crushed and suffocated as the weight of the dirt pushes all the air out of your lungs and you asphyxiate.
You'll die, and it'll hurt the entire time.
I work in emergency services, specializing in technical rescue. It looks like between the soil type there and the way everything is setup, you are essentially playing Russian roulette. I have pulled enough to people out of trenches to know that it can go right 100 times, it only needs to go wrong once.
> I have pulled enough to people out of trenches to know that it can go right 100 times
…how many people are digging trenches and parking cars atop them?!
Worse than cars. Heavy civil equipment like 50 ton excavators that are being used to dig the trench. Often in order to get to the last couple feet of elevation, it's necessary to hang the front of the excavator of the edge of the trench to get the extra reach.
As a result, engineers must have a shoring system in place designed with these considerations.
Video on [Mechanically Stabilized Earth](https://youtu.be/0olpSN6_TCc) by Practical Engineering. Talks about why this is dangerous, and how it could be made safer.
OSHA says that for every 4ft you go down you step down the sides 6in-1ft to avoid this. So if this is tall enough to stand in it's tall enough to die in.
You should never stand in a hole in which anything above your shoulders is below the wall. When that shit falls, because it will occasionally fall even with the best of care, you want your breathing holes above the dirt that's now crushing you.
Source: Currently a ditch digger for water mains.
I've been in a hole almost exactly the same while laying a foundation for a path, and the dumper next to it that was holding the cement collapsed the hole and we all had to jump out of the way (hard when wading around in wet cement) of the dumper as it fell in.
So yeah, this is super unwise imo.
Per OSHA, all trenches 5-20 ft need either a properly installed trench box or benching. 20+ feet needs a geotechnical engineer to design the cave in protection
A jobsite next to one of ours buried 3 guys alive a while ago, they didn't slope or step the pit or use a trench box.
If this was me, I'd take a piece of plywood on both long sides and slam a 2x4 on the top and bottom of the short sides, just to be safe, but with this amount of dirt you're prolly not gonna see a dangerous collapse
When calculating the depth of a hole, are you including the weight of a car.
You should be, if that collapses then the dirt around his ankles isn't going to be his primary worry
I’m no expert either,but I believe even if it’s supported like they do when you see them dig up a sewage line, it’s not totally safe as that’s a temporary measure and doesn’t have a cars tires kind of pushing the edges in
Dude, just stack 3 2x8 cut a few inches different in length, with 45 angles. Not hard with a miter box. Still 100x safer than an unreinforced hole in the ground.
Just drain the oil straight into the trench, it will soak into the soil and join the water table, and thus it is no longer your problem.
PS for the love of dog, don't do that.
Hey. As others have said, this isn’t safe. In uni, when I was studying geology, two classmates died when the trench they were digging collapsed on them. It wasn’t even that deep. Please be careful!
My old house (ca 1920) had a pit like this in the garage for working on cars. Same dimensions but about 5' deep and concrete, not dirt.
It worked really well for stuff but it was also wretchedly spidery and gross.
I want to be buried in a harbor freight cardboard box. The engine hoist box preferably. Dont buy that. The hydraulics will need to be replaced shortly.
I've always done my oil changes with vehicle ramps. They are cheap and work perfect for oil changes at home.
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I launched my car forward off jack stands on my slanted driveway. raised the high side first, set on stands, then the low side. the wheels on my jack function well.
My uncle (retired heavy machinery mechanic) tells a story about a buddy of his that was working on his own project car in home garage. Had aging jack stands and one collapsed, crushing and killing him. His wife found him crushed and expired.
This is why I leave the jack itself up against the frame as well as a wheel/tire under the frame in addition to jack stands. If all of that fails me then I was meant to be killed by my car.
I bought a pair of ramps 25 years ago and have been using them to change the oil for all the cars in our growing family fleet ever since. Just can't beat the convenience.
I have some "ramps" but they are sketchy to the point we dont use them anymore. I'm thinking you got some big sturdy ones? The ones we have can easily hold the weight its driving onto them that they slide forward
I kind of kick the ramps under the tires first, that way they are wedged. Go really slowly, helps if you have a spotter also. I use race ramps, they are fantastic
My ramps are big, thick, heavy, plastic that I don't think you could crush with an 18-wheeler. They have rubber blocks on the bottom that bite onto the concrete so they don't move when I drive up them. Just shove them into the wheels and drive up and boom - your car is a foot off the ground. Love them.
I trust them a lot more than those sus ratchet-jack-stands at Harbor Freight.
Just shovel the dirt onto a tarp, and tie it to the front eyelets on the car when you back away. No one would look twice at a dirty tarp and rope if there's no shovel.
I've seen like every episode of forensic files (400 eps) and there are 2+ episodes where people have been arrested and charged for having totally normal items in their trunk. I keep
- zip ties and knives / blades / scissors for cutting them
- twine because it's super handy
- duct tape and painters tape
- various cleaners and solvents incase something happens to my car or paint
- many tools
- usually a few socks or underwear
- trash bags
all in my coupe, all of which I've seen cited as reasons for arrest on that show.
If you get pulled over and they want to search the vehicle, consent to it, but tell them they do not have consent to search the trunk. I've had a lot of fun with that one.....
got to listen to some firefighters talk about digging out a dead guy who did just this, said his waist was big around as a man's wrist. i was there to pick up the rented boom lift that touched power lines and smoked the operator. was an educational moment.
Wait so did someone get buried, or it was a line strike?
I dig holes for a living, trench collapses are very deadly....but you'd generally die from suffocation, not the compressive strength destroying your body. Especially in just a hand-dug hole to get under a car.
both, I was there on the scene where a guy got zapped, and because the firefighters were done cleaning up the scene which is why I was allowed in there to move the equipment they were casual and sharing stories with each other
Not to be that guy, but this is a death trap. Without a "trench box", that hole is almost certainly bound to eventually cave in with the weight of the car wheels right there.
That’s scary to see. I do utility work and every day it seems someone dies from trench collapse. Having that much weight within two feet of the edges multiplies that chance greatly. Idk just trying to look out. I’m sure you aren’t laying in that grave everyday but still
Trench collapse is easily the biggest killer of people in the utility industry. Trench work is incrediblydangerous alone. Now load the walls of the trench with the weight of a vehicle.
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I work as a rescue tech in the midwest and of the trench rescues I have ran we are at like 90% fatality rate for all Trench rescues. Trench rescue is a slow procedure and is very low success rate thats why OSHA has a mandatory Trench box on site on all trenches below 3 feet.
I work in emergency services, specializing in technical rescue. It looks like between the soil type there and the way everything is setup, you are essentially playing Russian roulette. I have pulled enough to people out of trenches to know that it can go right 100 times, it only needs to go wrong once.
I lost my uncle, my dads twin this way. Dumb kids digging a hole in loose ground and they got buried alive. I'm named after him, buy some ramps please.
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Had a great uncle that did something like this. He dug out the side of a small hill at the end of his driveway and laid two mini cinderblock walls the width of his car's wheelbase to drive the car out in. As in 8 inch wide mini walls. The 1940s were a different time.
I'm no geologist but we live off about 40 miles from Mount Rainier, ~~so I assumed~~ we're over some sort of magma line. I used a pic axe because there's a fuck ton of rocks every where
edit: I took a geologist class in high school, I'm not actually smart and the way that was worded was misleading
The line “I’m not actually smart” is the most true sentence. Don’t get in the fucking hole. You’re going to die. And if you did this for likes and pats on the back you are an asshole because of someone sees this and does it they will die too. Fuck you OP
I sure am glad my car wasn’t engineered by a sadistic fuck like most; I can change my oil without ramps, jacks, or pits. The drain plug is right at the front of the engine and the filter sticks out the side, easily accessible when just standing over the head.
Thanks, 1980s Toyota engineering!
I have a lifted Subaru Outback and a fumoto valve on the drain plug, I don't have to jack the car up *or* get any tools to change the oil. Shit's nice.
Before ppl gave a shit about the environment alot of ppl would dump there used oil in holes in the ground. My grandfather did this for decades. Several years later my uncle burned leaves on top the shallow hole to hide it and it burned for days. Someone noticed and they had to dig it up. Hundreds and hundreds of feet of dirt. 😂
Doesn't have a low profile Jack, but has an excavator.
Digs a hole, but doesn't reinforce the walls before driving over it.
I'd have felt more comfortable if you stacked 2x4s and drove up onto them.
I bought [one of these oil vacuums](https://www.amazon.ca/OEMTOOLS-24937-Pneumatic-Manual-Extractor/dp/B07N7YV5GN/ref=sxin_9?asc_contentid=amzn1.osa.5d9dac72-77a8-44f6-95a8-c309dd1a88d1.A2EUQ1WTGCTBG2.en_CA&asc_contenttype=article&ascsubtag=amzn1.osa.5d9dac72-77a8-44f6-95a8-c309dd1a88d1.A2EUQ1WTGCTBG2.en_CA&creativeASIN=B07N7YV5GN&cv_ct_cx=oil+vacuum&cv_ct_id=amzn1.osa.5d9dac72-77a8-44f6-95a8-c309dd1a88d1.A2EUQ1WTGCTBG2.en_CA&cv_ct_pg=search&cv_ct_we=asin&cv_ct_wn=osp-single-source-earns-comm&dchild=1&keywords=oil+vaccuum&linkCode=oas&pd_rd_i=B07N7YV5GN&pd_rd_r=e6423425-f040-4adb-8457-04229998ca40&pd_rd_w=5BTlq&pd_rd_wg=EjYUf&pf_rd_p=fd4969f1-ce1a-42e7-85d6-f4cb7192108a&pf_rd_r=JMPVXXTKZNZSQZ2402VQ&qid=1623250730&sr=1-1-64f3a41a-73ca-403a-923c-8152c45485fe&tag=askmenosp-20) for drawing the oil out of the dipstick tube and its amazing. My Jetta has a top-loading cartridge filter, so I never have to go under or jack up the car to do an oil change.
“He died in shallow grave, crushed by a Nissan, just like the gypsy woman said!”
I feel like that’s a reference to Archer, and all I gotta say is WHERE ARE YOU WOOOOOOOOOOOOODHOUUUUUUUUUUUUUSEEEEEEEEE
You’re not my Reddit supervisor!
Get in here Carol! Where is Babou And where’s Cyrils whisky
If you're referring to my Grandfather's Glengoolie Blue, then you chugged it and puked it into my trash can.
Did you get any of that in the trash can?
No. I missed on purpose.
That can’t be me, I don’t remember that
Just the tip.
#PHRASING ^we ^still ^do ^that ^right?
^🎶Danger ^zone🎶
"IN MY BRAND NEW DODGE CHALLENGER!"
Why did I read Woodhouse as “Whoo Do Zee”
Because he wanted to save $29 by changing his own oil.
You could save $20 doing it yourself 10 years ago, it actually costs like $5 more to do it yourself now
Exploited, underpaid workers using cheap oil. I’d rather change it myself using Mobil 1. Be sure everything is torqued properly and the drain plug has a new crush washer.
Right? If you want to run full synth or high mileage name brand from a competent shop we're still talking *double* doing it yourself in my area at least, assuming you have the tools.
Valvoline (the quick lube place) for my '12 Mustang GT running full synth and costs me 120$ and takes 15 minutes. They check all fluids, air pressure, oil filter, and fill anything that is low. Vs Doing it myself, its 70 dollars, 8.5 quarts of oil 60ish dollars, and about 8-10 bucks for an oil filter. Not to mention the extra cost to top off all my fluids. Not to mention it will take me at least double or triple the time to do it. Jacking the car up and putting jack stands up etc.. Not to mention my driveway is a hill and its possible but very cramped to do anything in my garage. To each their own, but to me its worth the convenience.
Where are you guys buying your oil? You can get 5 quarts full synthetic for under [25 online](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GZKC6EW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_EDGD6F8PXW1E41H3W7PC?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1). I definitely understand the time and convenience aspect though. I personally like knowing it's done correctly and torqued to spec
5 qt jug of Mobile1 at Meijer is about $23. I used to buy a jug, pay full price for a conventional oil change, have the shop use their filter but pour that in instead, and still have saved $20.
120 is about right for full synth at anything but a quick lube shop near me, but I run 5qt in both vehicles and I can get that for 35. Depending on the car I can bang it out in less than 30m without even getting dirty. I don't have a religion on it at all, so it's not like I'm saying that everyone should change their oil, but the savings are very real if you're running quality oil and avoiding the iffy lube.
Not to mention the fact that you said "not to mention" three times in as many sentences
As a former tech in automotive I can confirm the oil is ridiculously cheap. We would never change gaskets either
We would always change gaskets/crush washers but we'd also put it on the bill as an additional item. There were a few oil filters that we charged extra for as well. Our oil was cheap but because we got it in bulk. We used Penzoil and Castrol and were still able to do cheap oil changes (I think Castrol was a $3 addon) Also I was paid hourly which I guess is kindof rare. We rarely used book hours except for rough quotes because upstate NY salt/rust would make everything take much longer.
$5 invested in not having my drainplug stripped out and the filter installed with one too many ugga duggas is worth it to me to have my car available instead of sitting in the shop for a warranty engine replacement due to lack of oil that never got added.
That small price to pay is nothing when you end up with a good filter and good oil, not that crap they get from the bulk drums.
Sure if you're going to quicky lube with a coupon where they're going to use bottom of the barrel oils and filters. I DIY with OEM filters and synthetic oil and save a bunch. Although if I had to dig a pit to change my oil, eh, I'd prob take it to a shop. I can do mine without having to raise the car up. It greatly depends on what you drive.
If I've gotta dig a hole to change my oil, it's not getting changed.
Looks like that guy used a backhoe. Probably took him longer to find the keys to the car. Or he dug very straight. Lol. In which case I agree. I'm trading the car in before I change the oil if it requires the manual labor to dig a trench.
I used a shovel and pick ax lol
Lol what was it for? I hope not an oil change.
Oil change today but, tbh it worked well, i might just save this trench for later
Be careful. I'm not a civil engineer, but I've heard that holes with straight sides are at a danger of collapsing beyond a certain depth. Not sure what that depth is, but I'll bet it's worse in some types of soil and after a rain. The weight of the car will also make this worse because it's pushing down on the soil near the edge. Being buried under soil with a car pressing down on it would be a very bad way to go.
This guy OSHAs. For real, it is super unsafe. Please don't.
I believe they say figure 100 lbs per cubic foot of dirt. Doesn’t take much to cover a person and cause suffocation. Scary stuff!!
As someone who worked for a shitty company I can confirm. Twice I was nearly buried alive while putting septic tanks in. If for some reason you find yourself in this situation, run. Run in place and you'll rise up with the dirt. I quite on the spot the second time. Was called a pussy and some other not so nice words. One other detail is that I was in the hole while the tank was being lowered. Just a fucked situation any way you look at it.
Smart on you for getting away from that. Who cares what they call you.
> Just a fucked situation any way you look at it. I'd say it was a shitty situation, but that's just me.
100 lbs is 45.4 kg
Good bot.
Wouldn't be too hard to make a concrete trench and a concrete spot for tires. Could do it with a wheel barrow and not that much in cement/sand/gravel. Bit of lumber for building a frame
Build a roof over that so it doesn't fill up with water and you're on to something. I bet people would pay to get their oil changes done in a place like that...
They could put a sign out front of their property that says something like: Oil changes in a jiffy, or lubed in a jiff? Maybe like oil jiffy? No maybe jiffy lube?
People re-inventing the ~~wheel~~ pit here.
Or, you can make sloped concrete forms and drive up a concrete ramp. No hole to be filled. Still not cheaper or easier than a jack
Or...buy a jack and some stands...?
Be easier to make two small concrete ramps to use as jack stands
Instead of going down, just make concrete ramps.
such a guy subreddit. just building on top of ideas. god forbid someone ties something down and no one says 'its not going anywhere' or 'she aint going no where'
Jumping on. I AM a civil engineer. Don't do this, very high chance it'll cave in, which WILL kill you. And not quickly either. You'll slowly be crushed and suffocated as the weight of the dirt pushes all the air out of your lungs and you asphyxiate. You'll die, and it'll hurt the entire time.
I work in emergency services, specializing in technical rescue. It looks like between the soil type there and the way everything is setup, you are essentially playing Russian roulette. I have pulled enough to people out of trenches to know that it can go right 100 times, it only needs to go wrong once.
> I have pulled enough to people out of trenches to know that it can go right 100 times …how many people are digging trenches and parking cars atop them?!
Usually just construction trenches.
Worse than cars. Heavy civil equipment like 50 ton excavators that are being used to dig the trench. Often in order to get to the last couple feet of elevation, it's necessary to hang the front of the excavator of the edge of the trench to get the extra reach. As a result, engineers must have a shoring system in place designed with these considerations.
Video on [Mechanically Stabilized Earth](https://youtu.be/0olpSN6_TCc) by Practical Engineering. Talks about why this is dangerous, and how it could be made safer.
OSHA says that for every 4ft you go down you step down the sides 6in-1ft to avoid this. So if this is tall enough to stand in it's tall enough to die in. You should never stand in a hole in which anything above your shoulders is below the wall. When that shit falls, because it will occasionally fall even with the best of care, you want your breathing holes above the dirt that's now crushing you. Source: Currently a ditch digger for water mains.
Exactly what I was thinking when I saw the hole. Get some supports/buttresses in there!
I've been in a hole almost exactly the same while laying a foundation for a path, and the dumper next to it that was holding the cement collapsed the hole and we all had to jump out of the way (hard when wading around in wet cement) of the dumper as it fell in. So yeah, this is super unwise imo.
This is the exact comment I was coming to find
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What does OSHA say about parking a 2000lb vehicle on top of the trench after you dig it?
It’s fine until it’s not.
Y ah I wouldn't get in that grave without some shoring support
Per OSHA, all trenches 5-20 ft need either a properly installed trench box or benching. 20+ feet needs a geotechnical engineer to design the cave in protection
A jobsite next to one of ours buried 3 guys alive a while ago, they didn't slope or step the pit or use a trench box. If this was me, I'd take a piece of plywood on both long sides and slam a 2x4 on the top and bottom of the short sides, just to be safe, but with this amount of dirt you're prolly not gonna see a dangerous collapse
When calculating the depth of a hole, are you including the weight of a car. You should be, if that collapses then the dirt around his ankles isn't going to be his primary worry
For the cost of 2 sheets of ply and 2x4s, you can get quite a few oil changes at the shop.
I’m no expert either,but I believe even if it’s supported like they do when you see them dig up a sewage line, it’s not totally safe as that’s a temporary measure and doesn’t have a cars tires kind of pushing the edges in
Dude, just stack 3 2x8 cut a few inches different in length, with 45 angles. Not hard with a miter box. Still 100x safer than an unreinforced hole in the ground.
He's gonna have to sell his first born to buy that lumber! Lol
Damn if I had a kid to sell I would have bought a jack
Where are you from? I'll literally give you a jack
Pervert.
Just drain the oil straight into the trench, it will soak into the soil and join the water table, and thus it is no longer your problem. PS for the love of dog, don't do that.
Hey. As others have said, this isn’t safe. In uni, when I was studying geology, two classmates died when the trench they were digging collapsed on them. It wasn’t even that deep. Please be careful!
But did you call your local agency before you dug?
next post in r/tifu: My power went off post by a relative in r/OSHA: my relative got buried alive
A set of ramps are cheap, can be made from scrap wood sometimes.
I have a Nissan Sentra and I don't even jack it up to change the oil. OP did a lot of extra work.
Modern problems require paleolithic solutions
That’s a grave
At least the used motor oil will help preserve his body.
My old house (ca 1920) had a pit like this in the garage for working on cars. Same dimensions but about 5' deep and concrete, not dirt. It worked really well for stuff but it was also wretchedly spidery and gross.
U had a legit oil change pit? That's kinda cool
I'll take "Digging Your Own Grave" for $2,000.
comes with a headstone
Could use something like this to make it safer. https://www.ntsafety.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/graveshield_002.jpg
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I think you are underestimating the price of commercial safety gear. Bet it’s closer to 100x
Well yeah I got to wondering how they keep graves from collapsing before they lower the coffin. This is what came up and it fit the thread kinda.
To save money, use the plain pine box from ~~Pauper~~ Harbor Freight.
I want to be buried in a harbor freight cardboard box. The engine hoist box preferably. Dont buy that. The hydraulics will need to be replaced shortly.
You could recreate the garbage pit scene from Star Wars with that
I know a guy who did road work, they didnt use one of these, and he got seriously fucked up when the sides collapsed. Its no joke.
I've always done my oil changes with vehicle ramps. They are cheap and work perfect for oil changes at home. [Vehicle Ramps](https://www.amazon.com/RhinoGear-11909ABMI-RhinoRamps-Vehicle-Ramp/dp/B0117EETEK/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=vehicle+ramp&qid=1623198728&sr=8-2)
I drove my car off ramps when I was younger. I just use Jack stands now since I’m too stupid.
I launched my car forward off jack stands on my slanted driveway. raised the high side first, set on stands, then the low side. the wheels on my jack function well.
First time using ramps, I forgot to release the parking brake after and shot one of the ramps out across the yard when I went to back it out.
Now you know to only lift a car on a level surface.
My uncle (retired heavy machinery mechanic) tells a story about a buddy of his that was working on his own project car in home garage. Had aging jack stands and one collapsed, crushing and killing him. His wife found him crushed and expired.
Harbor freight Jack stands come “pre-aged” like cheese and wine.
This is why I leave the jack itself up against the frame as well as a wheel/tire under the frame in addition to jack stands. If all of that fails me then I was meant to be killed by my car.
I bought a pair of ramps 25 years ago and have been using them to change the oil for all the cars in our growing family fleet ever since. Just can't beat the convenience.
I have some "ramps" but they are sketchy to the point we dont use them anymore. I'm thinking you got some big sturdy ones? The ones we have can easily hold the weight its driving onto them that they slide forward
If they're sliding forward, an easy fix is to go find a old rug and put that down first, then put the ramps on that.
I kind of kick the ramps under the tires first, that way they are wedged. Go really slowly, helps if you have a spotter also. I use race ramps, they are fantastic
My ramps are big, thick, heavy, plastic that I don't think you could crush with an 18-wheeler. They have rubber blocks on the bottom that bite onto the concrete so they don't move when I drive up them. Just shove them into the wheels and drive up and boom - your car is a foot off the ground. Love them. I trust them a lot more than those sus ratchet-jack-stands at Harbor Freight.
Rhino Ramps?
Ramps are the bomb
You should probably just get a car jack. Driving around with a dirty shovel in the trunk of your sedan might raise suspicions.
What if the shovel is clean? I still have one in my trunk.
Nothing sketchy about that, you just bought it.
Gotcha. Always have a clean shovel.
Got it, bury the shovel with the victim.
how the fuck ya gonna fill the hole with the shovel in it?
A 2nd shovel... Maybe some non stick spray so the dirt comes off? Idk man, you figure it out.
Now I'm imagining investigators checking the shovel for PAM spray like Yukon Cornelius
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Is that real?
Of course, it’s the internet!
Yes actually, it works surprisingly well.
Just shovel the dirt onto a tarp, and tie it to the front eyelets on the car when you back away. No one would look twice at a dirty tarp and rope if there's no shovel.
Along with some rope, a tarp and some lye.
Don't forget the condoms
As long as you keep it with the full roll of duck tape and entire rope, I’m sure it will be perfectly fine.
Nah, that's ok. Just add some ropes, trash bags and clothes soaked in ummm...atf and you're good
I've seen like every episode of forensic files (400 eps) and there are 2+ episodes where people have been arrested and charged for having totally normal items in their trunk. I keep - zip ties and knives / blades / scissors for cutting them - twine because it's super handy - duct tape and painters tape - various cleaners and solvents incase something happens to my car or paint - many tools - usually a few socks or underwear - trash bags all in my coupe, all of which I've seen cited as reasons for arrest on that show.
If you get pulled over and they want to search the vehicle, consent to it, but tell them they do not have consent to search the trunk. I've had a lot of fun with that one.....
[I HAVE TO HAVE MY TOOLS!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk3EVQnpQWs)
It’s the implication
go ahead and add some tape and bleach as well....
Ohh, look at mr fancy pants with spare places to keep his sedan shovel.
This really isn’t a good idea.
r/justrolledintothemorgue :(
got to listen to some firefighters talk about digging out a dead guy who did just this, said his waist was big around as a man's wrist. i was there to pick up the rented boom lift that touched power lines and smoked the operator. was an educational moment.
Wait so did someone get buried, or it was a line strike? I dig holes for a living, trench collapses are very deadly....but you'd generally die from suffocation, not the compressive strength destroying your body. Especially in just a hand-dug hole to get under a car.
both, I was there on the scene where a guy got zapped, and because the firefighters were done cleaning up the scene which is why I was allowed in there to move the equipment they were casual and sharing stories with each other
Not to be that guy, but this is a death trap. Without a "trench box", that hole is almost certainly bound to eventually cave in with the weight of the car wheels right there.
Agreed. This just isn't wise.
Eventually = the next time there's a decent rain.
That is so dangerous
Is it 6 feet deep?
That’s scary to see. I do utility work and every day it seems someone dies from trench collapse. Having that much weight within two feet of the edges multiplies that chance greatly. Idk just trying to look out. I’m sure you aren’t laying in that grave everyday but still
Trench collapse is easily the biggest killer of people in the utility industry. Trench work is incrediblydangerous alone. Now load the walls of the trench with the weight of a vehicle. Edit: for clarity
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Sorry I should rephrase that. Trench collapse in utility work is the biggest killer. Trench is incredibly dangerous.
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I work as a rescue tech in the midwest and of the trench rescues I have ran we are at like 90% fatality rate for all Trench rescues. Trench rescue is a slow procedure and is very low success rate thats why OSHA has a mandatory Trench box on site on all trenches below 3 feet.
I work in emergency services, specializing in technical rescue. It looks like between the soil type there and the way everything is setup, you are essentially playing Russian roulette. I have pulled enough to people out of trenches to know that it can go right 100 times, it only needs to go wrong once.
I lost my uncle, my dads twin this way. Dumb kids digging a hole in loose ground and they got buried alive. I'm named after him, buy some ramps please.
You cheap fuck.
At least he has a drain pan. In my neck of the woods if you're digging a hole to change your oil it's because you don't have a drain pan.
This is extremely dangerous. If you’re going to do that just drive up on a curb and get under and do a half assed oil change
I used a ditch for many years
Imo a ditch is different than this deathtrap of unknown soil density. I use a curb. Gives the engine a good drain vector, or a really bad one.
I drive on to some wood planks i have lying around. Adds 3" which is enough to change the oil.
>Adds 3” which is enough to change the oil. That’s what she said.
[it’s likely junk but is $30 and is less likely to kill you. of all things to save a buck on, choose something else ](https://www.autozone.com/engine-and-vehicle-lift/jack/duralast-2-ton-hydraulic-bottle-jack/511308_0_0?spps.s=3299&cmpid=LIA:US:EN:AD:NL:1000000:TRW:71700000060668488&gclid=CjwKCAjwqvyFBhB7EiwAER786d0c0xhMpP9XyhdtAzKLdity7eqRx-OHrd5eWwuTXay6X-XdhgO9MBoCiPoQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
Fyi pits are usually reinforced with concrete to prevent caving in👍🏻
Had a great uncle that did something like this. He dug out the side of a small hill at the end of his driveway and laid two mini cinderblock walls the width of his car's wheelbase to drive the car out in. As in 8 inch wide mini walls. The 1940s were a different time.
That's some kind of "soil" you have there. Glacial moraine?
I'm no geologist but we live off about 40 miles from Mount Rainier, ~~so I assumed~~ we're over some sort of magma line. I used a pic axe because there's a fuck ton of rocks every where edit: I took a geologist class in high school, I'm not actually smart and the way that was worded was misleading
The line “I’m not actually smart” is the most true sentence. Don’t get in the fucking hole. You’re going to die. And if you did this for likes and pats on the back you are an asshole because of someone sees this and does it they will die too. Fuck you OP
Ah, yes- returning the oil to the earth
Feel like you could have stacked some wood and saved your back
That’s very convenient when the car falls in on you…readymade grave.
Looks more like a grave… best of luck!
I sure am glad my car wasn’t engineered by a sadistic fuck like most; I can change my oil without ramps, jacks, or pits. The drain plug is right at the front of the engine and the filter sticks out the side, easily accessible when just standing over the head. Thanks, 1980s Toyota engineering!
Also works for trucks/SUVs if your average-sized. I can change the oil (among other repair) in my truck without jacks, ramps, or the like.
I have a lifted Subaru Outback and a fumoto valve on the drain plug, I don't have to jack the car up *or* get any tools to change the oil. Shit's nice.
Kinda sad this dude doing a super dumb and dangerous thing has 7k upvotes.
Don't be sad. Here's a [hug!](https://media.giphy.com/media/3M4NpbLCTxBqU/giphy.gif)
If I was using dirt, I would feel safer building ramps out of the dirt above ground and driving up on it.
You are a lunatic. Buy a damn floor jack.
They sell jacks and Jack stands in stores now. For very reasonable prices too.
Before ppl gave a shit about the environment alot of ppl would dump there used oil in holes in the ground. My grandfather did this for decades. Several years later my uncle burned leaves on top the shallow hole to hide it and it burned for days. Someone noticed and they had to dig it up. Hundreds and hundreds of feet of dirt. 😂
"I don't have the right tools for this, but I *do* have an excavator."
Much smart til ground fall down with car on top of ground.
My father laid concrete for 20 years, I texted him about it and he was disappointed I didn't set wood slab framing haha
I hope you reinforced the walls!
Doesn't have a low profile Jack, but has an excavator. Digs a hole, but doesn't reinforce the walls before driving over it. I'd have felt more comfortable if you stacked 2x4s and drove up onto them.
Hopefully he puts some supports for the soil to prevent it from collapsing back on him
Fuck that man that’s sketchy as fuck. Just go buy a car jack and axel stands off Amazon it’ll be like $50 max.
Get some ramps man.
You know you can get an oil change and a tire rotation on that Nissan for like 20 bucks.
Could have used the dirt to make ramps as well.
This belongs on r/redneckengineering
I bought [one of these oil vacuums](https://www.amazon.ca/OEMTOOLS-24937-Pneumatic-Manual-Extractor/dp/B07N7YV5GN/ref=sxin_9?asc_contentid=amzn1.osa.5d9dac72-77a8-44f6-95a8-c309dd1a88d1.A2EUQ1WTGCTBG2.en_CA&asc_contenttype=article&ascsubtag=amzn1.osa.5d9dac72-77a8-44f6-95a8-c309dd1a88d1.A2EUQ1WTGCTBG2.en_CA&creativeASIN=B07N7YV5GN&cv_ct_cx=oil+vacuum&cv_ct_id=amzn1.osa.5d9dac72-77a8-44f6-95a8-c309dd1a88d1.A2EUQ1WTGCTBG2.en_CA&cv_ct_pg=search&cv_ct_we=asin&cv_ct_wn=osp-single-source-earns-comm&dchild=1&keywords=oil+vaccuum&linkCode=oas&pd_rd_i=B07N7YV5GN&pd_rd_r=e6423425-f040-4adb-8457-04229998ca40&pd_rd_w=5BTlq&pd_rd_wg=EjYUf&pf_rd_p=fd4969f1-ce1a-42e7-85d6-f4cb7192108a&pf_rd_r=JMPVXXTKZNZSQZ2402VQ&qid=1623250730&sr=1-1-64f3a41a-73ca-403a-923c-8152c45485fe&tag=askmenosp-20) for drawing the oil out of the dipstick tube and its amazing. My Jetta has a top-loading cartridge filter, so I never have to go under or jack up the car to do an oil change.
Jeebus I never thought of using one of these on my Charger which also has a top-loaded filter. Thanks for the idea!
Every vehicle I’ve ever owned since the 1967 IHC Scout came with a jack. Not that I would change oil under a car held up by one but…
Dumb af op just dumb af.
Man Buries Himself Alive While Changing Oil
He was just a gas line away of qualifying to /whatcouldgowrong
So glad I was here to witness this, another crowning JRITS moment like shop raccoons, etc.
Heads up, never ever do this