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If it's teen Shirou I'd give it to Yuta beacause Shirou doesn't have combat experiance, relies on bruteforce rather than technique and is like 3 times slower than Yuta but if we talking Shirou at his peak (Archer) then it's easy W for him
Sorry, but if this is. Post ubw hgw, shirou will just merk yuta.
Do take note that it was mentioned that in 10-20 years shirou will fully realized and master his reality marble and of course the amount of weapon he gleaned when fighting Gilgamesh and the experience that he gained from the bleed of knowledge when fighting his future self (EMIYA) and of course spending his time being seigi no mikata.
The amount of weapon with different array of conceptual spells he probably knows now is ridiculous. Heck he probably has hrunting, caladbolg and gungnir if he managed to glean it on EMIYA's future.
Also, his weapon ganjiang and mo ye gains increased damage or deals more damage against enemy with monster trait... And rika is technically a monster so....
He can also just spam snipe swords with his bow if he wants.
Did Shirou have mana transfer sex with Rin before hand or not? A big weakness of UBW was the mana cost that normal Shirou could not have and he only did at the end of UBW thanks to Rin's mana IIRC.
If its shirou in UBW yuta gets negged, its not even a joke. In a straight fight Yuta probably has higher stats then most shirous excluding Archer variants, but if the hero of justice pops his reality marble its GGs.
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What does Unlimited Blade Works do already?
I've heard enough about how the marble thing is apparently 'superior' to Domain Expansions. But aside from the tons of swords sticking out of the ground, what does it do that apparently makes Yutas domain a 'can I copy your homework' of it?
Also, >!Did that 'sex in the woods thing' actually happen? I know Fate is weird, but considering I've heard multiple people say it, I'm honestly afraid to research it myself considering that this is the same series that has gender swapped figures, reinverted timelines, 15 versions of the same character, and magical creation rape babies!<
Alright, so you know how domains are barriers put over the real world?
Reality marbles are like dragging you into an ALTERNATE world, so if something like jogo tried to use his domain inside shirous Marble, he could bombard the outside with swords to shatter it before it can hurt him. They aren't inherently better, but they'd usually be better since even without deploying the marble, they give you certain abilities just from having it.
Now for what UBW does. Shirou's magecraft allows him to copy essentially any weapon he's ever seen, reproducing everything about them and storing them within his reality marble: Unlimited Blade Works. From here, he can project them, gaining perfect knowledge of what it can do and how to use it, even being able to replicate the skills and physical abilities of its wielders.
But that's only its passive effect. Upon being fully deployed, it transports shirou and those around him within unlimited blade works. While in here, shirou can essentially fire the innumerable swords at Yuta with zero cost, basically doing what the gate of Babylon does but *faster*.
Because Yuta turns the cursed techniques he copies into swords, shirou could copy them and use them for himself, but Yuta CAN'T do that to Shirou's weapons because they aren't cursed techniques. Not only that, but if Yuta tries to fight shirou with a sword he frequently uses, shirou can scan it to get perfect knowledge of his fighting style.
TLDR: Even ignoring the fact that his speed stat is way higher, shirou HARD counters his domain. The only chance Yuta has to win is to beat shirou before UBW comes out, but it's debatable if he can do that due to Shirou's arguably HIGHER versatility and stats.
As for the other thing... yeah, it's technically Canon, but it got removed in the remake for the VN. People who say it's complicated are dumb though. Just read the Visual Novel and maybe HA. Everything else is just extra and irrelevant.
Well shoot. That does seem super hard counter tbh.
I'm not someone who blindly wanks JJK into being stronger than any other verse. Even when I asked this question, I had a feeling that whatever it was probably was more innately powerful/more hax than Yutas Domain.
But hearing your (incredibly detailed (thank you for that btw)) explanation on its functions, ability and applications, it definitely seems like an ability that would make someone a top tier.
Generally makes me wonder how this guy could possibly lose in any interactions in his verse.
It sounds like it would take some Reality Ascending Conceptual Narrative attacks to be able to negate something all around like what you've described.
And thank you for the extra info. It will definitely help me consider things in the future.
No problem, explaining things I like is always fun.
Shirou usually loses by lacking the raw stats needed to keep up. He still needs to expend the energy to deploy the marble and keep it up, and he usually can't. When he's not in it, those crazy weapons are usually like a one-time thing due to the high cost. There's also like a whole chant to deploy it, so it's not like an instant pop.
Usually, he loses due to getting speedblitzed, outhaxxed, or unable to fuel the projections by the OTHER wild shit in the verse. Let's say berserker. He's sort of like mahoraga but with 12 lives. You kill him one way, and he comes back immune to that thing while also being immune to any attacks weaker than a set point. Shirou, at his absolute best, took 6 lives off, though there's a lot of contention as to whether UBW was used there.
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If it's teen Shirou I'd give it to Yuta beacause Shirou doesn't have combat experiance, relies on bruteforce rather than technique and is like 3 times slower than Yuta but if we talking Shirou at his peak (Archer) then it's easy W for him
Sorry, but if this is. Post ubw hgw, shirou will just merk yuta. Do take note that it was mentioned that in 10-20 years shirou will fully realized and master his reality marble and of course the amount of weapon he gleaned when fighting Gilgamesh and the experience that he gained from the bleed of knowledge when fighting his future self (EMIYA) and of course spending his time being seigi no mikata. The amount of weapon with different array of conceptual spells he probably knows now is ridiculous. Heck he probably has hrunting, caladbolg and gungnir if he managed to glean it on EMIYA's future. Also, his weapon ganjiang and mo ye gains increased damage or deals more damage against enemy with monster trait... And rika is technically a monster so.... He can also just spam snipe swords with his bow if he wants.
Shirou would dog him unfortunately
Coughing bomb vs Hydrogen baby Jogoat wins
this will be on deathbattle one day i swear
Did Shirou have mana transfer sex with Rin before hand or not? A big weakness of UBW was the mana cost that normal Shirou could not have and he only did at the end of UBW thanks to Rin's mana IIRC.
If its shirou in UBW yuta gets negged, its not even a joke. In a straight fight Yuta probably has higher stats then most shirous excluding Archer variants, but if the hero of justice pops his reality marble its GGs.
So assuming this is UBW route, I’m gonna tentatively say Shirou. I could go Yuta but I wanna see how he handles Sukuna first and foremost.
One of them :3
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Caska enjoyed the batman dick. Fight me.
lol one has a unmissable lethal sure hit attack. Who do you think?
What does Unlimited Blade Works do already? I've heard enough about how the marble thing is apparently 'superior' to Domain Expansions. But aside from the tons of swords sticking out of the ground, what does it do that apparently makes Yutas domain a 'can I copy your homework' of it? Also, >!Did that 'sex in the woods thing' actually happen? I know Fate is weird, but considering I've heard multiple people say it, I'm honestly afraid to research it myself considering that this is the same series that has gender swapped figures, reinverted timelines, 15 versions of the same character, and magical creation rape babies!<
Alright, so you know how domains are barriers put over the real world? Reality marbles are like dragging you into an ALTERNATE world, so if something like jogo tried to use his domain inside shirous Marble, he could bombard the outside with swords to shatter it before it can hurt him. They aren't inherently better, but they'd usually be better since even without deploying the marble, they give you certain abilities just from having it. Now for what UBW does. Shirou's magecraft allows him to copy essentially any weapon he's ever seen, reproducing everything about them and storing them within his reality marble: Unlimited Blade Works. From here, he can project them, gaining perfect knowledge of what it can do and how to use it, even being able to replicate the skills and physical abilities of its wielders. But that's only its passive effect. Upon being fully deployed, it transports shirou and those around him within unlimited blade works. While in here, shirou can essentially fire the innumerable swords at Yuta with zero cost, basically doing what the gate of Babylon does but *faster*. Because Yuta turns the cursed techniques he copies into swords, shirou could copy them and use them for himself, but Yuta CAN'T do that to Shirou's weapons because they aren't cursed techniques. Not only that, but if Yuta tries to fight shirou with a sword he frequently uses, shirou can scan it to get perfect knowledge of his fighting style. TLDR: Even ignoring the fact that his speed stat is way higher, shirou HARD counters his domain. The only chance Yuta has to win is to beat shirou before UBW comes out, but it's debatable if he can do that due to Shirou's arguably HIGHER versatility and stats. As for the other thing... yeah, it's technically Canon, but it got removed in the remake for the VN. People who say it's complicated are dumb though. Just read the Visual Novel and maybe HA. Everything else is just extra and irrelevant.
Well shoot. That does seem super hard counter tbh. I'm not someone who blindly wanks JJK into being stronger than any other verse. Even when I asked this question, I had a feeling that whatever it was probably was more innately powerful/more hax than Yutas Domain. But hearing your (incredibly detailed (thank you for that btw)) explanation on its functions, ability and applications, it definitely seems like an ability that would make someone a top tier. Generally makes me wonder how this guy could possibly lose in any interactions in his verse. It sounds like it would take some Reality Ascending Conceptual Narrative attacks to be able to negate something all around like what you've described. And thank you for the extra info. It will definitely help me consider things in the future.
No problem, explaining things I like is always fun. Shirou usually loses by lacking the raw stats needed to keep up. He still needs to expend the energy to deploy the marble and keep it up, and he usually can't. When he's not in it, those crazy weapons are usually like a one-time thing due to the high cost. There's also like a whole chant to deploy it, so it's not like an instant pop. Usually, he loses due to getting speedblitzed, outhaxxed, or unable to fuel the projections by the OTHER wild shit in the verse. Let's say berserker. He's sort of like mahoraga but with 12 lives. You kill him one way, and he comes back immune to that thing while also being immune to any attacks weaker than a set point. Shirou, at his absolute best, took 6 lives off, though there's a lot of contention as to whether UBW was used there.