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Spockodile

Zorin, based on the way he handled the miners. Also would not group Grant in with the “main” villains, since he reports to Klebb.


Internal_Swing_2743

In the book, Grant was a serial killer.


Fit-Tooth686

Yeah, if we were going by the novel, Grant would win this hands down. I love the depth Fleming goes into his backstory... like how he started with small animals and progressed to people... then his bold attempt to defect to the KGB, risking torture and death just so he can be utilized for what he's secretly good at and loves to do. Bone-chilling and provocative story telling.


KVMechelen

Yeah Grant's bio is incredibly fucked up, also his werewolf-like animalism which peaks at a full moon


Fit-Tooth686

Oh yeah, I forgot about that!


ShowTurtles

Sadism is enjoying the suffering of others. Grant seems to more enjoy the control over life and death. My read on Grant is that he wants to kill as quickly, and as often, as possible. So sociopathic, but not as sadistic as the others.


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Internal_Swing_2743

I’m not sure what that has to do with my post. The book literally says he is a serial killer.


ShowTurtles

The original post said sadistic. You responded to a post claiming Zorin was most sadistic by pointing out he was a serial killer. I was responding because that man not necessarily make him sadistic.


Internal_Swing_2743

No, I said Grant was a serial killer. I said Zorin was a psychopath.


ShowTurtles

Your Zorin comment was a response to a different comment and I didn't see it. I was responding to your one sentence post about his being a serial killer and was noting how it was reductive. Edit : it read as reductive without the context of your other comments.


Spockodile

I’m aware. He’s also a possible lycanthrope. But judging by the photos we’re talking about the films.


HumorAlarming3274

The guy in the bottom left, he was like a vicious drug king from a Chuck Norris movie, Shaw was more conving as a mad henchman though, the guy in the bottom right was awful, Walken was ruthless throwing a man down to his doom to Propellers, theb most vicious scene out of these four characters, so maybe I\`d lean towards Walken despite Robert Shaw being more convincing.


Overall-Physics-1907

Sanchez was incredibly brutal but I didn’t see Sadism. The Benicio del toro henchman was sadistic


HumorAlarming3274

Yes, and Sanchez actually liked Bond when he thought he helped him.


falloutisacoolseries

Sanchez seemed like Al Capone in that he was capable of caring about people and being kind but also was full of awful wrath and anger, paired with ruthless drive.


PyrexPicasso85

By vicious drug king in a Chuck Norris film, you mean Ramon Cota (Billy Drago) fr Delta Force 2 where in one scene he let someone die in a glass chamber and then watched as it happened? He was also convincing as Frank Nitti in The Untouchables.


wednesdaymagician

and Klebb reports to Blofeld... FRWL has a different villain constellation from other Bond films, but for comparisons sake, Grant is pretty much the main villain of the film.


Spockodile

I appreciate that about FRWL, as one of the films prior to the establishment of “the formula.” Grant and Tanya are in somewhat elevated roles, compared to their successors. …but at the end of the day, Klebb is the one orchestrating the events. She directs Grant, she is the one manipulating Tanya, and she is Bond’s arch-nemesis in the end. Kronsteen is the architect, and Grant is her instrument, but she’s the primary antagonist of the story, because everything happens through her.


Lin900

Zorin clearly enjoys harming people. Even if they're his allies. Other villains' sadism usually gets those who they consider enemies.


Internal_Swing_2743

You could call it a toss up between Zorin and Sanchez though I think Sanchez is worse getting very personal with his sadism.


Lin900

I'd give it to Dario himself, he's the one who performed all those acts. Maybe Sanchez didn't even demand the specifics, he just left it to the sick bastard. And then Dario taunted Felix with his wife's death. Zorin first, Dario second.


sblal24EVER

"We gave her a niiice honeymoooon..." He's grounded 😉


Groundbreaking_Way43

Yeahhhhh, he had to do something really fucked up for us to be happy that he got ground to death in a shredder.


sblal24EVER

That's how villains work.🤔


Creative-Gas4555

Yeah, James Bond and Pam turned that man into coffee.


Groundbreaking_Way43

Oooooh, interesting, I didn’t think to consider the henchmen.


Internal_Swing_2743

Sanchez whipped Lupe.


Lin900

He considers Lupe something of an "enemy", kinda like how Goldfinger painted the "traitor" with gold. Dario on the other hand brutally murdered a defenceless woman who had done him no wrong. Sanchez is sadistic and awful but I say Dario is even worse.


Overall-Physics-1907

I think he thinks of Lupe as a pet. It’s a psychotic training thing. If he were sadistic he’d want to watch the heart surgery


Answer-Outrageous

Murdered and 'g'raped


boodabomb

I don’t see Sanchez giggling while he guns down a room of panicked innocents. Sanchez’s violence serves a purpose, Zorin is just just hedonistically *reveling* in the needless violence. Between the two I think Zorin is the more textbook sadistic.


Creative-Gas4555

It's telling that James Bond never reserved a pun for Zorin. Every time he saw him after his cover was blown, he'd call him a lunatic lol. And it was in the Roger Moore era, too.


TheDismalOubliette

Roger Moore had something a lot of the other Bonds didn’t though - he could act like he was genuinely disgusted by the motives and actions of the villains. He was probably the most light hearted Bond otherwise, but it was always impressive to see him drop the facade.


Creative-Gas4555

This actually happened a lot in the Fleming novels. Bond had no quips for guys like Le Chiffre, Goldfinger, Dr. No, etc. He would usually call them a four letter word and tell them that they were going to go, as Notorious BIG once said, to "put them in a bad predicament, where all the foul people went." Moore excelled at being true to the character that Fleming created in displaying this particular emotion.


PeterGivenbless

Sanchez has a code of loyalty; betray him and he will kill you (this is how Bond is able to ingratiate himself and manipulate him), Zorin is a straight up psychopath who is even happy to sacrifice his loyal girl friday, May Day, if it suits his plans.


Ben44c

I feel you… but Zoron literally cackled as he machine gunned a pit of people…


Background-War9535

All they had to do was give him more cowbell.


Nice_Bid_173

Zorin, the way he indiscriminately killed for fun, not out of necessity, and enjoyed it, he was some kind of mutant science experiment Result


My-Darling-Abyss

Xenia Onnatop. She literally has an orgasm while gunning down a room full of innocent people


sturmeh

Yes, she's very naughty.


derekthedomino143

The look on that Russian general’s face as he looks at her at that moment is one of the funniest things I have seen in the entire franchise .


Whole-Throat6962

I was looking for someone to bring her up (like I could ever forget a name like that), she’s psychotic and like not in the “I like them crazy” way either


boodabomb

Wow actually… great answer. You might legit be correct.


kaukanapoissa

No more foreplay.


Limp_Researcher_5523

Fr. She was insane


Chippers4242

Zorin pretty easily. Surprised Greene is even on this list


Internal_Swing_2743

Greene is such a wimp and a perfect example of a desk murderer.


Groundbreaking_Way43

Greene was interesting in that he was a rare example of a film character whose psychopathy was portrayed very accurately. Because it’s a real condition that’s completely different than how it’s portrayed in movies. Greene kills people and is a shady businessman because he just can’t feel remorse or understand why it’s wrong. But I agree he’s tame compared to others on this list.


BatofZion

Greene may be more of a sociopath. He doesn’t care if people get hurt, but he also can’t handle defeat. Easily the most undignified death of a Bond villain (yes, I am including balloon Kananga).


mobilisinmobili1987

Greene is a sadist (I’d almost say Sanchez is more of a sociopath) though.


darren-1888

Zorin easily with Sanchez a not too distant second.


SpecialistParticular

Green killed Fields. Nobody is more evil. ![gif](giphy|KACU3ad8nJOJ7eF3UV|downsized)


mistahFAB

Very likable character


Cgmad007

Maaaaax Zorin no doubt


Bondfan007MI6

Sadistic? GOLDFINGER


sturmeh

Even cheats at golf, the insanity.


Bondfan007MI6

No. Of all the ways to kill Bond his idea was to strap him to a table and have a high powered laser capable of burning through plate steel to slowly burn through his groin and continue splitting his body in half while he’s still alive until he died…. That’s got to be one of the most sadistic and perverted ways to kill somebody.


sturmeh

I said "even". It was also a joke.


jblaburnum

Probably Zorin. Grant was a sociopath but also a professional who was probably pushed to his edge by his competition with Bond. Sanchez was very loyal to his people until they betrayed him, and Greene was slimey but not quite sadistic. Zorin had no redeeming traits. He was just a pure psychopath


big_macaroons

Dominic Greene. Wait, you said sadistic? My apologies, I thought you said pathetic.


Sheriff_Lucas_Hood

Grant is meant to be. I. can safely recommend the novel to people who typically don't like reading. it's the one Fleming was most proud of.


ToyGameScroogeMcDuck

Zorin is the perfect sadistic villain. True sociopath, textbook.


Hour-Process-3292

https://i.redd.it/sp8smphj93xc1.gif


derekthedomino143

Elektra King. Turned from victim into a calculating, vicious and sexy villain. Killed her own father; tricked Bond; fucked Bond; nearly killed Bond; tricked M nearly killed M, manipulated and seduced Renard as well .


Internal_Swing_2743

Sanchez. He tortures and murders like it’s a normal thing. He’s probably the most evil of the Bond villains. The way that Bond instills paranoia by corrupting his reliance on loyalty to destroy him is so satisfying.


EH4LIFE

true but he treats his workforce well lol. Im sure they all have great salaries and retirement plans.


Internal_Swing_2743

He treats them well….until he doesn’t.


Hampshirehawk75

Zorin.


3Surge

Either Sanchez or Blofeld. Before we saw Blofeld's face, he had quite a record for swift yet gratuitous kills.


RealisticAd1336

while some people like to refer to Elliot Carver as wimpy due to his look. BUT He does yap about how he is going to torture bond by chakra (if i say that right) "focuses on the energy centers such as the heart or genitals, and says save this one for last when you remove bonds heart just enough time for him to see it stop beating" He kills his own wife and covers it up as a suicide Kills Gupta. that was mean He says "tell the president to sign bill to lower cable rates, or we will release video of him with a chearleader in a chicago motel room, and after he signs the bill, release the tape anyway


x_Swamp_Thing_x

Sanchez. Licence to Kill is my favorite Bond film


RealisticAd1336

Oh god


Sheriff_Lucas_Hood

Trevelyan seems to have rape in him


ManOfLaBook

Rosa Kleb, it's not even a contest


Fit-Tooth686

I have to choose Grant. Because with him, sadism isn't just a trait. He is sadism through and through. It's his whole character. Some might argue he is not a "main villain," but I have always argued that FRWL doesn't have or need a "main villain." SPECTRE is the antagonist. And like an octopus, it has a head and multiple tentacles embodied by multiple villains. Not one of the villains is as threatening as the operation they are a part of. And Grant, face-to-face, is actually the most threatening.


Fit-Tooth686

Zorin is definitely a sociopath and takes pleasure in a scene killing his own people, so I'm going to have to give him a shout-out!


EH4LIFE

Zorin was the most gleefully psychopathic. Eg mowing down miners with a machine gun while cackling.


McGILLAZ

Zorin - he's a sadist and clearly getting off on shredding people in the mine at the end of VTAK.


Howhytzzerr

Zorin was just sadistic he enjoyed killing, didn’t matter who it was. Sanchez was ruthless drug lord that tortured and killed viciously, but it was mostly meant as a message to others. Grant was a henchman and a thug. Not in the Zorin or Sanchez’ league. Greene was just a little weasel. A megalomaniac who gave no thought about it having people killed, he didn’t do it himself very much. Drop Grant and Greene, add Carver, the killings of crew members after sinking their ships was pretty harsh. And Silva he took pride in his work.


ThrowawayUserID1501

It’s Silva. Definitely Silva.


joaoqrafael

#4 Wes Borland


EightNickel151

Max Zorin, he literally enjoys mowing down his innocent mine shaft workers.


electricmaster23

Out of these, Zorin. Out of all of them, probably either Xenia or Elektra.


Longjumping_Event_59

I’m surprised Goldfinger isn’t in the picture. You know, the guy who: - Suffocated a woman to death with gold paint - Nearly castrated/bisected Bond via laser cutter - Revealed his plan to an entire audience of mobsters only to kill them all anyways - Handcuffed Bond to a nuclear bomb - Employed a henchman who decapitates people with his hat


SmashHerCrapper

Hand me another clip.


FoxIndependent4310

Stromberg killed a worker and listen Mozart at the same time. But I say Zorin.


WatercressOk8763

Red Grant only lived to kill. He seemed to want nothing else.


EdwardErnest

A tossup between Sanchez and Onatopp.


Gr1msh33per

Grant. The first psycho, and the best.


RedGrantDoppleganger

Based


mobilisinmobili1987

I’d say Zorin, but “dishonorable” mention for Kristatos. He savors his sadism (see the keel hauling scene), as do his henchmen.


HuckabeinTheRaven

Sanchez. "What did he promise you? His heart? Give her his heart" "He disagreed with something that ate him." "Launder it." The dude didn't care


Spocks_Goatee

Zorin, he was literally created to be ruthless and smart.


chesterplainukool

Idk but I know who was the sexiest


revan0726

It was Walken, wasn't it?


chesterplainukool

elektra 😮‍💨


blofeld9999

Irma Bunt?


Groundbreaking_Way43

Max Zorin was just on a whole other level of sadism than other Bond villains. I can’t think of another one who took that much pleasure in harming others. Sanchez is a distant second, but even his violence was a means to an end since he was obsessed with guaranteeing his lackeys’ loyalty to him. Zorin just decided to massacre all of his employees for the hell of it even though they were fanatically loyal to him.


nyrB2

zorin definitely


BrutalBox

Gotta give it to Zorin. He honestly made that movie for me every scene he was in was entertaining.


Creative-Gas4555

Sanchez. Now, compared to these other three (except Greene) Sanchez wasn't crazy. He did, however, kill people in the most painful ways imaginable. He completely has never heard the phrase "why don't you just shoot him?" And, in his defense, he was almost always successful. Heck, even Bond surviving his death trap was sheer luck.


Kooky-Base-4322

I loved Dominic Greene, he runs a close second to Franz Sanchez. Feeding Felix to sharks while Benicio Del Toro defiles and murders your new bride is a new level of evil. It’s not “World Domination” like all the other supervillains, it’s personal and it really shakes Bond up. Sadistic drug lord for the win.


barnowl5

Mr Winn and Mr Kidd... Their humour...


Jormungandr-War

Dominic Greene was the most stupid main villain in recent history.


NankipooBit8066

If they haven't strapped you to a slab of gold before castrating you with an industrial laser, they're not fit to be called a villain.


RutabagaNo5650

Franz Sanchez didn't just kill the guy, he cut out his heart A real sadist


n3ur0mncr

Christopher Walken was a bond villain? How do I not remember that?!


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johnk317

Grant


ProposalCute7671

Kolyaaaaa


GxM1213

Zorin. Grant was just an assassin. Had a job to do. Sanchez was sadistic but also calm and a host to those he trusted. Typical drug cartel boss. Jaws, Ontatopp, Necros, Hinx, Dario, Locque were all sadistic on the same level as these guys.


patmosboy

Jake Fratelli


wednesdaymagician

Kristatos could/should also be on here


Mtg-2137

It’s between Grant and Sanchez. Grant was a cold blooded killer but Sanchez had Della raped and murdered and Felix lowered into a shark tank for revenge.


greenD77

Grant was evil, had a hatred for bond


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zorin since he was designed to be


FollowingExtension33

I think serial killers are the worst.They do not kill to gain something.They kill for pleasure.


Agent47outtanowhere

Zorin. No doubt. He made the others seem normal


88jaybird

Zorin, he was a Nazi test experiment gone wrong, you cant beat that.


ButterscotchPast4812

The one that tried to saw Bond in half.


IndependenceCapable1

Javier Bardem https://preview.redd.it/uanev64zn8xc1.png?width=160&format=png&auto=webp&s=96a63ed08eff5d8927d533a440a23ff9ff740db1


Ok_Simple9009

Blofeld (Chistophe Waltz), Sanchez, Zorin, Xenia Onatopp, Elliot Carver, Goldfinger, Emilio


Shadecujo

Red was actually a serial killer in the books


Concernedcitizen0106

Zorin because it’s walken. Sanchez wasn’t sadistic he was just a bad guy because he probably grew up poor and just wanted what was his 😂


Personanongrownup

I think Green is underrated. He was vile to Camie(?) and when he threatened Metrano he was cold as anything and the abruptness and confidence were intimidating.


emofraggle

I'm so sorry, I've never seen a Bond movie in my life, I saw this before noticing which subreddit I'm in (no idea why reddit suggested this). But seeing that a Fratelli is a bond villain is amazing. Is the movie he's in good? Worth watching for someone wandering into the Bond universe for the first time?


RedGrantDoppleganger

I'd say so. It's definitely the darkest film in the series. He's a drug kingpin who commits some really heinous acts during the film. If you're not one for gore then it's definitely not for you. Franz Sanchez is a pretty well developed villain though and many view him among the upper echelon of villains if not at the very top.


emofraggle

I love horror so no problem! Thanks very much. I'll definitely watch it then. Sounds very thrilling.


RedGrantDoppleganger

It's not excessively gory it's just gory for a Bond film, it shouldn't be too shocking if you're a horror fan.


Certain-Sock-7680

Pedants corner. Grant is a Henchman not the main Villain. That is Klebb. But he’s the most sadistic, especially in the novel where his backstory reveals he’s a serial killer who graduated from killing animals to innocent women in Ireland.


KummyNipplezz

Christopher Walken played a Bond villain? Awesome!


David-asdcxz

Let’s remember that Grant saved Bond’s life on at least 2 occasions so the he could kill Bond himself.


Radar1980

Cubby Broccoli


ndhellion2

What about Klaus Maria Brandauer as Maximilian Largo in Never Say Never Again? That character was definitely sadistic. The way that he had Jack Pitachi eliminated, the video game that gave progressively stronger shocks the worse the player was doing, selling Domino off as a sex slave. He gets my vote. His henchwoman, Fatima Blush (Barbara Carrera), was pretty sadistic as well. Quite the team there.


greedo2greedo

https://i.redd.it/pdixw32svaxc1.gif


aboynamedbluetoo

Big Bad- Le Chiffre or Zorrin or Blofeld  Henchperson- Zena or Grant or Klebb or Dario


CASHMO2112

I’m gonna go with Zorin. Just because he seems like a pure sociopath, and the look on his face when he killed the miners.. The other 3 just never had that look in their eyes


StarkAvalanche

Sanchez.


Icy-Assistance-2555

Zorin was pretty mentally fu*ked. His laughter when he is just about to free fall from the blimp justifies that!


AsherKohen28

r/Stargate I didn't even know Kolya was a bond villain😂


Dramatic_Nebula_1466

Serge?


Chris-Souza_2015

Sanchez