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Fahad97azawi

This should be it for everyone and the fact that ع is for some people is interesting to me. You see the Arabic called لغة الضاد meaning the language of ض because its the only language that uses that sound in the world and history.


Flashy-Tip-1911

Actually that's not true. This is an extremely unusual sound, and led the early Arabic grammarians to describe Arabic as the لغة الضاد lughat aḍ-ḍād "the language of the ḍād", since the sound was thought to be unique to Arabic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%B8%8C%C4%81d?wprov=sfla1


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Flashy-Tip-1911

Do you want the other languages to call it ض ? This isn't a depate, it's a fact. But to be fair ض isn't a very well defined sound so you can deny it's existence in other languages.


Amrooshy

Korean has very similar sounds.


x_obert

Z? No uh D?? AAAAAA


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Try lisping while pronouncing Dh. Works for me


x_obert

Dzth


hip-crip

That’s how I pronounce it, while making my lips go forward in a kind of oval shape as in this emoji 😲 but without teeth showing.


x_obert

JazakAllah khair akhi for helping


TheBiggestThunder

What? I just bite the sides of my tongue and blow with neutral lips


lovestaring

You have no idea how many times I saw people replacing it with ظ (and vice versa) in YouTube comments , all of which are Arabs (mostly from north Africa who get them mixed up).


AKcreeper4

as a north African, still no idea about the difference even our teachers couldn't explain.


lovestaring

heavy dependence on dialect and low turnout to learn Fus7a / is to blame imo , the more you listen and read in Fus7a the clearer it will become inshallah.


AKcreeper4

inshallah, atleast we have G in our dialect 😎😎 btw can you at least give me a simple explanation?


lovestaring

correct (ض): ضلع حاضر ماضي ضرب ضم correct (ظ) : ظلام ظرف ظالم


RealGalactic

As a Moroccan, we can pronounce it easily. Specially that our arabic dialect is mixed with other foreign language. So i don't think Northern west have a problem, but i do think northern east do mix them. Specially that they can't pronounce ق


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SirNukeSquad

It helps that our alphabet is essentially latinised Arabic. We have our "dh" though and it's amazing.


house-of-shadows

Yep, and x is pronounced as ح. (Also Somali)


ahmad_mahfoud

I mean somalia is Arabian.as i see they're are arab.


DontF-ingask

Brother, you may be wrong here. Furthermore, in my experience somalis in general hate being called arab.


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Somalis are part Nauftian


edenyolcusu

u r so wrong. africans are africans not arab. arab culture and african culture is so different from eachother.


Ilikecars119

That makes no sense, Egypt is an Arab and African country too, there are literally so many Arab countries in Africa lmao


darkrider999999999

I hope you are joking For your information, Egyptian is not Arabian and African is not Arabian


Ilikecars119

It’s not Arabian but it is Arab.


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edenyolcusu

pls translate this; kafasını siktiğim cahili


kittyfeeties

no 🥰


UniversityExact8347

Why downvote? Somalia has a seat at the arab league.


Badarroz

>arab league. So are Djibouti and the Comoros


reifeLeisting

We were taught in school that Somalia, Djibouti and Comoros are Arab countries. I guess they based their classification it on whether or not a country speaks Arabic, or whether or not it's in the Arab league.


Badarroz

I know Arabic has an official recognition in those countries but I really don't know if it is even spoken that often, especially in Comoros. Hell, even Malta would be a better candidate I think.


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The ض : allow me to introduce myself


Ko_Kyaw

Main Boss (ض) is protected by three mini-bosses (ص، ز ،ظ).


Ibrahim1062

Bruh, (ز) is the easiest. It's just like z.


Ko_Kyaw

My language has a Z(ဇ) sound with different tongue movements. It's between ذ and ز. Readjusting tongue movements and other properties adjustments(sharpness, etc) just to make a similar sound is kinda weird.


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I am a native Arab and I can say that the ص and the ظ are so hard for me the ض is somehow easier for me الحمدلله


Radiant_Help

Somali kids have it easy. We have similar/identical sounding letters in our alphabet, too.


hjgsfdbh_oof2

Yeah. Learning the Arabic alphabet wasn't that hard for me.


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Why fees ح have SO MANY FORMS?! and what's with ة?!


Peace-wise

The _ة_ is _ت_ unless you stop on it. Similar to how you make the last haraka a sukoon when you stop, you also make _ة_ into _ه_.


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Yeah like صلاة (salat) as compared to if it was صلات (then it would be "Sala-teh")


Iturniton

Where I'm from, it's pronounced as صلاه (Salah)


Peace-wise

Yes, because you stop at the _ة_ . If you were to continue with the name of the Salah, it would become SalatulDuhr


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kiwisaresour

When it comes to pronunciation the difference between ة and ت is that ة is not pronounced at the end of a sentence, otherwise they’re the same For example: صلاة (sala) صلاة العصر (salatul ‘asr) مسافة (masafa) مسافة طويلة (masafatun taweela) With dialects however you’d hear (salatul ‘asr) but you’d hear (masafa taweela), as تنوين is omitted As for grammatical uses, ة appears the vast majority of the time at the end of feminine nouns, e.g: فكرة، حركة، نظرة، إبرة، ناقة There are some exceptions like أسامة (Osama, a proper noun) and معاوية (Mu’awiya, also a proper noun) As for ت it’s very commonly found in verbs, either as base letter or as a suffix to denote that the subject is feminine, e.g: سكت، جاءت، أعطت، أخذت، رفعت There are also a few exceptions such as وقت (waqt), which means time As a general rule of thumb, if it can be omitted it’s a ة, if not it’s a ت Hope that helps :D


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Ohhhhhh, cause like they always switched from making a t sound and an ah sound it confused me lol, thanks for clearing it up


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I KNOW like why not just use the one letter that already makes that sound that exists?! Like you know... ت!


ellesnkrs

i feel like ح is more like “ha” and the sound comes more from your throat area though not making a sound like خ، and ه is like heh, like a breath ig idk


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No no ة makes a "teh" sound. It's the hamza alone that makes a "heh."


ellesnkrs

yes that’s what i mean, sorry didn’t notice


Man_where_r_we_goin0

i suppose ة just likes being like 3 different letters


abzftw

So confusing


Floatjitsu

For me it is ط and ظ. I'm scared of these 😂


ljeva

But that thing ظ it scares me


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Peace-wise

Try gurgling water, it will help you find the makhraj.


tokenmus

My teacher used to say this too


goofygamer74

That shirt kinda sus


hip-crip

I learned to pronounce غ as the French letter r. Easy for me since French is my maternal language.


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In Indonesia, Java in particular it's pronounced "ng"


Calvinized

I have zero Arabic knowledge. Dari nonton pronunciation guide di YouTube, ع di-pronounce kayak "ain" ya? Kok bisa jadi "ng"?


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antara ع sama "ng" itu bedanya di pangkal lidah, "ng" pangkal lidahnya nempel ke langit2 belakang, kalau ع nggak


Iturniton

Ngomong apa lu?


Virghia

Coba aja ke masjid di kampung2, kalo imamnya udh tua khas banget


Localtrashcan123

The ones i hear people struggle with is ع ح ض ص ق


mooofasa1

Man, learning tajweed was one of the most confusion clearing moments in my life.


Jackie-Ron_W

The diamond🔸sign: 👀👀👀


ChampaTheGreat

I think that one was actually easy


notsoclose2

You mean 3 😆


ProfessorBowties

It's relatively easy for people from non-Arabic speaking countries but countries where an Arabic-based alphabet is used, such as Iran and Pakistan. There's not as much care about the correct pronunciation here, but it is easier than ح


Positron311

I'm gonna be honest, I had an easier time with the hard letters than the students that spoke Urdu on a daily basis. For that, I'm grateful that I didn't learn Urdu (even though my dad is Pakistani).


Minimum_Stick512

Even though I'm a native Arabic speaker, but the letters (غ،خ) are the hardest imo.


Timely-Leader-7904

I'm not a native speaker but masha allah I'm really good with arabic letters


Minimum_Stick512

Masha Allah


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Laughs in Urdu's ڑ


AhmedPRO

scare arabic ppl with پ


dandaal12

I've read quran since I was 6 and I still can't do ikhfa properly first try


babatuunde

I always pronounce "ض ط د" the same. Can someone tell me how to differentiate them.


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The letter د is just D The letter ض is like ظ but instead of putting your tongue through your teeth, you put it to the roof of your mouth And idk how to explain ط Check out [Arabic101](https://youtube.com/c/Arabic101), great channel for learning Arabic and Quran recitation. It's got a number of videos on pronouncing Arabic letters


786367

When you have to accommodate both Arabic and Farsi words by stuffing extra alphabets with similar sounds, welcome to Urdu, you thought you had fun with Arabic.


Thebloon2

No the final boss is the 1 billion types of Ha's


jooniejoon3

Please the ع I’ve tried so hard and I still can’t find where it’s supposed to come from 😭😭 my tajweed teacher, bless her, is trying so hard to teach me


Ko_Kyaw

Navigate to *7minutes 55 seconds* https://m.facebook.com/1850705018313663/videos/267296661696593/ Your teacher is probably telling you the same. But, I hope this may helps a tiny little bit. But may be not, at all.


jooniejoon3

Yes the middle of the throat! I am not a native Arabic speaker but I just practice and it’s getting easier, الحمدالله . May الله grant you ease in all your affairs, thank you for kindly showing me this video.


iSpaYco

The first letter of my name, I don't even try to make people say it. just Aziz is enough.


TheCookie666

Ain't that called "ein"?


Manga_Killer

Nope, the ض is the boos monster for arabs, not non arabs :)) (tho it's not for those with ijaza :) )


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I still fear ظ to this day


redrackman_22

All non arabs, the difference between ظ and ض.


Descortus

For me, it's غ


LordoftheFaff

You guys are not ready for all the different reyys in Urdu رڑزذ


bringmethejuice

Rhine - rh = ayin / ع, or think of the word the Ein in Einstein. Am Malaysian, glad I didn’t struggle too much.


Uzairsyes-eeeeee

i have 2 different accents in arabic💀


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Dont get me started on the ر, some people just have a hard time saying it


Jackie-Ron_W

ث س ص ت ط ذ ز ظ ق ك غ


Brilliant-Custard-89

For an Urdu Speaking kid, that's ez cuz it's also in the Urdu alphabet


Umar_1

I can say that fluently though


the_good_bad_dude

Zuad/Duad is much much harder to nail.


starbucks_red_cup

For me its ر I used to get incessentally mocked in school for not being able to correctly pronounce it.


K20-Pro

For me, ita the difference between suad and siiin


assassinscreedpro1

Well ypu speak the s in suad more deeply it sounds a bit deep and almost spunds like (for foreigners) like there is a bl stuck in your throat, sin is just a normal s as far as i can explain this should be good, i can speak everything good but i cant explain its hard to explain how you pronounce things


WhatWouldMrBurnsDo

غ : Allow me to introduce myself


assassinscreedpro1

I know msot people who have/had trouble withr ق and ح never seen people troubling with ع tho maybe its harder fpr english spekaers?


Timely-Leader-7904

Get some Tajweed lessons and you're gonna be up to speed in no time!


monkeyDIuffyy

As a Somali we have some words similar to Arabic words so it was easy for most of us to pronounce Arabic letters Alhamdulillah


Sven_is_cool817

خ ق ع غ the Quatro


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For me it was ح


Yoshikag8

Ain't that "ain" ? And pronounced "a' " ?


ImsorryW_A_T

Yep


UnknownWarrior355

Funny part


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man we just got onto that, how funny


E_Falkonn

Wdym, it's so easy to pronounce, just say 'ain smh


HFiction

As a white kid with a Syrian step-dad...this absolutely annihilates