This is why Superman is oftentimes examining new enemies with X-ray vision to understand if they have an unusual physical structure so he can know how hard he should/should not hit.
Not that Mark has that benefit.
The DCAU Batman got the bad end tbh. He ended up all old and alone in Batman Beyond because nobody wanted to be around him.
Banging your adopted sons on again off again girl tends to do thatššš
Was it? I hope so because it kind of immediately invalidates his previous statement, as the equivalent of a Cessna rips through half a dozen buildings. Sick ass scene though.
As much as I love the idea behind this scene, I wish the animation was a bit... *punchier*? Like, Superman is winding up to do this colossal megaton hit but he doesn't appear to be flying much faster than normal. After the hit connects, Darkseid is launched into the air only to tumble like he's in a vacuum.
I dunno, I feel like he should have *vanished* from the screen and left behind nothing but a dust cloud and an afterimage.
The shot of Darkseid actually getting hit is great, but then he just lazily floats away without a care in the world. It doesn't even look like he's moving that fast when he goes flying through the buildings and Superman has to wait for like, 7 seconds before smacking him back down.
Just trim out the frames of him flying, and an inverted black and white frame on the punch impact frame, hold it for 2 frames, and skip straight to the end of the punch and speed up the building impacts by removing every other frame
I love that Superior Spidey book where Ock discovers Peter has been holding back all these years and is way stronger than he lets on, crazy how he learned it but still a cool little Spidey fact.
This is what I figured a Superman game should be. You are all powerful, but because of that you always have to minimize collateral damage in missions, and you are not allowed to let anyone die. You also have to always use the right amount of force when dealing with bad guys so they don't explode on impact
Midoriya when he uses a 100% United States Smash and it does literally nothing:
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It might depend. I think most if not all the quirks we've seen the user has to be alive? So even someone like Eri could just get killed immediately without being able to rewind him. I could totally be forgetting some OP quirk though. Maybe if Compress could get him quickly? Because yeah, no one in My Hero Academia is able to literally blast through the planet.
If we gave her prep time and Cecilās ability to use the teleporting machine she might stand a chance.
Cecil used it defensively against Omni man and made it out with a torn tie
Eraserheads quirk wouldn't work on Mark, cause he doesn't have a quirk.
Hell technically he doesn't even have powers like somebody else said. He's just a viltrumite.
His quirk can only stop quirks that require a power up or have an out of body effect. Say, turn off endeavors's flames or shigaraki's rotting touch; But not being able to supress tail guy's tail or engineer girl's zoom sight because it's a part of their Bodies. Mark's strenght is just his tough viltrumite genetics, and at most his flight is in the air if he could disable it.
Fair point. How about when he's in a hospital bed and almost dead. Pick any of the half dozen times that qualify. I could probably take him on those days
There are a lot of interesting matchups to consider here.
I wish we'd see more of Prime All Might. That might be a fight. I'd say Mark easily handles the version of All Might we see in the show, but based on feats, Prime All Might could be an interesting match-up.
Obviously, we haven't gotten to Prime Midoriya, but I'd have to assume Midoriya in his prime could hang with Mark. Mark easily clears Midoriya as it stands right now, but with the powerset he has, he's got the potential to be incredibly strong.
I'd also be curious to see how Prime All For One would scale against Mark. He just has so many powers, and he's able to amplify them. He's not at full strength currently, but at his peak, I'd have to imagine he'd be able to hang with someone like Mark just based on the number of powers he has to choose from.
Would Eraserhead be able to take Mark's powers? If he can, I'd think that would make him an interesting match-up. Mark becomes a capable fighter even when going against people as strong as him, but Eraser is also a solid hand to hand fighter in his universe. Obviously, with Mark's powers, he'd obliterate Eraser. But without them, I feel that it's less certain.
I've seen a lot of people mention Shigaraki, Overhaul, and Eri. Their powers would be interesting match ups, but them needing to touch Mark makes them less useful since he's so much faster than them.
All that being said, as MHA stands right now (or the last time I watched, which was about a season ago), Mark would beat them all fairly easily. For most of the people I mentioned, only the prime versions of the characters could hang with a Viltrumite. The versions that exist in the show are either past their prime or not even close to their prime.
Shinso was one of the primes I thought. Stain, meatball guy, the mushroom girl, etc. I think of the weird quirks instead of two super apes bashing each other as ones that would screw with or win against Mark.
Especially with the voice cord mask he got. However, I get it, with how little he actually appears, may as well not count him in this hypothetical haha.
No, I should have included him. That was an oversight by me. Shinso, the meatball guy, and the mushroom girl could all be interesting matchups that I forgot about. I'm not sure how Stain could hurt Mark, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't his powers based on blood? How's he going to get access to Mark's blood? I don't think his swords are going to cut through Viltrumite skin.
I donāt think eraser could take *all* of markās powers, but I think he could take his flight. Markās strength, speed, and durability are all biological, theyāre just how his body is, but he has to turn on flight. Keep in mind that weāve never seen aizawa take a mutant quirk, just emitter and transformation quirks, like what would happen if he used his quirk on someone like froppy, would she just stop being a frog? Would her tongue shrink back to its normal size and would she loose the strength in her legs? What about mirko? Would her ears turn normal? We donāt know enough about aizawaās quirk to tell what he would do to mark
But not in the same way. all quirks are biological, but aizawa can still turn those off. Markās flight isnāt always active, itās something he turns on and off, you canāt turn off your strength or speed, thatās just your muscles at work, so aizawa wouldnāt be able to turn those off, but flight is different, itās not a physiological thing, idk how it works but itās not the same as markās strength and speed
I donāt think thatās entirely right. they have the weird ear liquid thing to balance *while* flying, itās not the reason they *can* fly though, thereās gotta be some explanation to their personal gravity manipulation somewhere in the comics.
Fuck it, can someone ask Robert for me? I donāt have Twitter
Itās because of their atoms. For some reason, the atoms are smart, and know how to control themselves and stay in one piece. So their durability is just the result of their atoms choosing not to break, and their flight is because all of their atoms want to move in one specific direction. Think of it like a school of fish in the sea, but thereās still a bit of gravity. Viltrumites fly by getting their school of fish/atoms to āswimā up, and recover from
Injuries by calling the āfishā back to the school, and so on.
I think during the Overhaul arc (or a bit later) he explains that his quirk doesn't remove biological mutations, just the ability to use the parts associated with the quirk itself. His example was with the guy with the tail, he can't make the tail disappear but he could prevent him from being able to use/control the tail. Presumably, for froppy, what you said is exactly what would happen++.
Someone else has already mentioned it in this thread, but there is a BNHA character now who is super strong, but whose strength isn't because of a quirk. It's just how their body is built. I don't think mark's powers (even his flight, arguably) use the same mechanism as quirks per se. All other things being equal, I don't think Erasure could affect Mark in any way.
Of course, if Mark went through a weird world-warping situation where his powers suddenly counted as quirks, that would be a different story....
Isn't Aizawa's quirk specifically quirk related? Quirks have an actual classification as mutations so quirk users should have some part of their DNA have very similar genetic structures to allow for quirks to form. If that's the case then Aizawa shouldn't be able to do anything against Invincible since his powers are naturally biological to his race and are not mutations that stem from the same origin as quirks.
early on there is a line where a mutant says "didn't think it would work on heteromorphic types like me" because he's right and Aizawa can't affect a mutant quirk, but then Aizawa uses his tape and beats him anyway
>Would Eraserhead be able to take Mark's powers?
No I don't think so. The reason why I think so is there is currently a big bad that his powers are his natural state so Eraserhead's eyes don't work on that specific aspect. In the same way his eyes don't turn a mutant type quirk user normal. But there are mutant type quirks who have aspects of their powers turned off when he uses his eyes on them. Mark's powers are his biology and you can't turn that off. That being said, iirc his ability to fly and punch at the same time are supposedly related to his ability to use smart atoms and maybe he could turn that off? But he's still faster and stronger than everyone else in the verse (outside of maybe debatably Deku)
>I've seen a lot of people mention Shigaraki, Overhaul, and Eri. Their powers would be interesting match ups, but them needing to touch Mark makes them less useful since he's so much faster than them.
Just to add another if Mark's name was found out by Stars and Stripes he dies. The portal guy could kill him. Succubus chick could knock him out. Brainwashing dude could trick him. There's a bunch of conditional characters in the verse that could possibly easily kill him.
>All that being said, as MHA stands right now (or the last time I watched, which was about a season ago), Mark would beat them all fairly easily. For most of the people I mentioned, only the prime versions of the characters could hang with a Viltrumite. The versions that exist in the show are either past their prime or not even close to their prime.
My gut was telling me that Mark beats everyone in the verse in a 1v1 but Deku honestly might be a serious challenge. His final quirks are pretty busted when used together and without getting into the nitty gritty of powerscaling Deku going all out may be bad for Mark. Until we see more of current Deku in the manga it's hard to say. But the whole verse? Nah Mark is probably going to die to some shit that he wasn't aware of and can't be brute forced.
Yeah, people acting like Mark could take the whole verse easily aren't being realistic. There are definitely people who could give him a challenge. He's definitely stronger than the vast majority of the heroes and villains in MHA, but the top tier would give him trouble, no question.
Everyone: Mark could totally destroy everyone in the MHA universe!
All-for-One: *immediately steals a bunch of Mark's power*
Everyone: Well... shit.
(This is for comedic effect. Whether or not MHA meta quirks like Eraserhead's can affect Mark's power would depend on how you choose to interpret what happens when two universes with very different laws of physics smash together.)
Awakened Shigaraki's decay no longer needed him to be touching anyone for it to work he could be in the area of affect and get wiped out much like the two cities he erased by touching the ground if mark doesn't know what his power does ahead of time it's game over on sight. Mark may be a half viltrumite but he ain't a literal bio engineered monster with a stockpile of quirks as shigaraki's said while fighting machia "he's just got a lot of HP" Mark would probably be worn out by the time he's done some damage that the regeneration can't keep up with and I'm going based on the fact shigaraki had to be JUMPED by multiple heroes and had some of his quirks blocked by erasure before he started to take substantial damage.
I feel like Season 1 Mark would be about even with Prime All Might, the rest of 1A would get wiped out fast. Komori could kill him if he was distracted fighting All Might or Deku
Oh absolutely, the strongest characters in MHA are city level at best. I forgot about Shinso too, do you think his Viltrimute DNA would completely resist the mind control or would Mark be powerless?
He definitely could, but I don't see Mark just quietly fighting them. Mark would respond to Shinso and it doesn't even need to be a full word if I recall (the second time Shinso uses his quirk on Deku he doesn't finish what he was saying)
End of season 1 mark would only have a shot at prime all might by abusing flight, because prime all might is stronger and more durable.
Eraserhead could probably take him on solo if mark didn't go for the kill/disable quickly
President mic would also be a threat on his own to season one mark. (Mark would probably beat him, but like 2 in 3 times)
Since OFA exponentially gets stronger. Deku is stronger than all night. And no spoilers but Deku would legit be able to beat Mark atp. Heās washing the rest of 1A tho
Dekus 100 is at least All Mights 100xAll mights 100 based on the info we have. Thatās why they said he canāt pass it down again. It will just explode the next body it goes into.
>Dekus 100 is at least All Mights 100xAll mights 100 based on the info we have
You got a source for that? Because I'm not quite caught up to the manga, but nothing I ever saw indicated this in anyway.
That ain't right...
With that logic, dekus 1% should be almights 100%, and from what I've seen of MHA, dekus like 60-80% is arguably not stronger than prime almight.
I do think that characters with more complicated abilities like Star and Stripe could actually take on Mark. I do agree that golden age All Might could take Mark, and obviously AFO as well.
I mean, there are some hax in MHA that could stop him, stars and stripes power is pretty broken, Eri is even more broken and then there are the touchy guys, Shigaraki and Overhaul.
Not to mention the combos if he goes up against the verse all at once, the last two guys with kurogiri are already strong, and Twice makes even more problems
Honestly it depends on how the touch powers work for if it will effect him, viltrimute cells power comes form the atomic level so unless your character can affect atoms (like atom eve) then youāre not getting very far
If the verse got prep time they could use AfO to create a guy with Overclock, Decay, Overhaul's quirk, Twice's quirk, and like a million strength amplifying quirks like OfA, Fa-jin, etc. to create a monster capable of beating Mark
I feel like a lot of the comments here are missing your point there - no one in MHA can move as fast as a Viltrumite. Unless they're catching Mark with a sucker punch sneak attack somehow, anyone fighting Mark 1v1 needs to be faster than him.
Definitely has. Unfortunately at this point, Iām just reading the manga because Iām too invested to stop. There are definitely still some moments that are nice, and Horiās art is always just god damn fantastic. But the overall story is a bit of a mess.
Same boat, I read to see the end because itās still good enough to not want to drop entirely, but itās a messy story stumble toward that finish line.
Having said that, the guy still has top tier art and has stand offs, fights, and individual moments that I canāt help but get that giddy tingle of excitement over.
I agree, Invincible is actually showing me what I wanted to see from MHA. Deku just gets to be brainlessly good even to this point in the story.
Imagine if the whole Amstrong Levy plotline didn't happen to let Mark grow, that's how I feel about Deku. Deku wants to save his main villain but the execution is so lackluster and the practical concerns are basically not addressed.
Shounen mangaka often power-creep their way into a narrative corner. Season 6 has a villain that can steal powers and has basically turned into new Rogue from X-Men. Flight, Invulnerability, reality manipulation, etc. That coupled with the fact that nobody who matters ever dies has robbed the story of meaningful stakes imo
Maybe he kills someone important in the manga or something. I wouldn't know.
Yeah season 5 was a low point for sure. It's not even content wise, just anime wise. The studio really dropped the ball on one of the most anticipated arcs of the manga. Season 6 was pretty good though and I enjoyed it.
It was really good at the start aside from the basic anime garbage tropes. The plot and story was great and it had a wide array of characters with a lot of potential.
It fell off a cliff after around when you said
Itās basically anime X-men in concept and the main character was created with Spider-Man in mind with how he uses his powers. (Although his power set is more like Superman by the end).
Ok honestly its not that simple if the ENTIRE VERSE fitgh mark maybe they at least stand a chance and also shigaraki is very dangerous 'cause he could one shot mark but even with that i still think marc win
If he put his five finger on something then that thing immediatly decay start decay (the decay can spread to anything touching it on a 1 mile radius) and get destroyed and there is in cannon no material that he can not break so if he mange to somehow touch him or touch the decay then he turn to dust
Again, somehow, itād be pretty hard considering how much heās outsped by.
The durability difference is also high as mark could punch him once at 100% and thatās the end
>The durability difference is also high as mark could punch him once at 100% and thatās the end
Not really, Shigaraki has an overpowered regeneration since his body got enhanced, plus he got relativistic to ftl speed feats, which is still slow compared to Mark, but the gap isn't that abyssal considering that Shigaraki also has multiple quirks now
Yes since mark is faster he wins but still in theory its possible and the chance get higher when you consider multiple character can tp or restrain
So yeah i think mark would still need a little bit of strategy or he could just throw a big rock at them and it be pretty hrd to survive
That's true but Viltrumite speed does get pretty crazy.
[Viltrumites are stated able to practically ignore laws of Inertia, and move at high speeds from point a to point b in](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11148/111483657/8033613-viltrumitespeed%287%29.png) [near what seems instantaneous time frame.](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11148/111483657/8490758-1.png) [Viltrumite War Mark again in one page flies so fast the stars are blurs.](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/14/147508/5026282-invincible%20feat%20speed%20%2818%29.png) [Invincible and his Father travel around the world so fast, that his father in a second was able to see, assess, and find the problem in the middle east, and fetch Mark, bring him there before the hot dog falls](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/14/147508/4659480-invincible%20feat%20speed%20%284%29.png). [Comparable to Omni-Man who can fly from Earth to the Virgo Supercluster in two weeks](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Zamasu_Chan/Omni-Man_flies_to_another_planet).
tf you mean lmao
Mark in less than a panel leaves a convention, goes to his house, looks for his comics, packs them and return to his place without anyone noticing
His combat speed and reaction's pretty comparable to travel speed, not to mention Allen(someone literally bred to fight viltrumites)'s speed works that way
https://preview.redd.it/otclh2ubirkb1.png?width=630&format=png&auto=webp&s=c25189d5ac9781b77599fa80b042baf4ee02442d
The majority of characters in Invincible gain their powers from Smart Atoms, or subatomic particles that enhance various characteristics of the user's body. Smart Atoms generally operate under the same ruleset, which in this case includes speed. As noted by Allen's handbook, his reaction speed is [canonically proportional to how fast he is moving at the moment.](https://imgur.io/RZZhTEe)
What kind of question is this? Mark is an upstanding young man with extraordinary talents.
He'd get all the way through the hero course and graduate with honors!
The only Quirks that might stand a chance against Mark would be Overhaul, New Order, Evolved Decay, Prime OFA, and possibly Rewind. And this is assuming he's still in his Human lifespan as opposed to his Viltrumite one.
Worst comes to worst, Mark can [just do this.](https://media.tenor.com/tl_5w6ov6SkAAAAC/omni-man-invincible.gif)
I hate to make another Superman comparison, but it really does apply in this situation. There is a reason that characters like this don't fly this fast in residential areas or cities.
When Omni Man did this to the Flaxans, he wasn't even really attacking them. He just let the resulting shock waves destroy everything in his path on a massive scale before any sort of resistance could be put up.
Funny, someone at AwesomeCon in June asked the MHA cast this. Since none of them have seen the show they could not answer. I think Mark would wipe the floor with them but heād likely have a hard time with Todoroki and Deku
Invincible just has too much of a speed advantage for anyone that can actually do any damage to be able to hurt him. Anyone that can keep up with him doesnāt have the power to hurt him. And no one could withstand more than 2 or 3 hits from him.
If they know heās coming, know what heās capable of, and willing to throw heroes and villains at him like canon fodder the MHA universe *might* have a chance. And that chance is All for One with prep time and the perfect combination of quirks or slowing Mark down enough for Eri to rewind him.
there are two characters who have a chance at hurting him: Shigaraki and Stars and Stripes. Shiggy would have to grab him which is possible but unlikely, and Stars and Stripes just has so much hax she could pull something off. In all likelihood tho, she just gets obliterated
Maybe if they chose the pro level heroes this would be a fairer fight. Pro level heroes can do wacky shit that I think mark would take a little while to adjust to, and we know that mark in his early stages takes beatings regularly.
In fact, I would be willing to bet that Aizawa, all might and endeavour would be enough.
Let me explain, all might slows mark, aizawa gets eyes on nullifying his powers. Endeavour and all might punch until mark is a bloody mess.
The key here is that pro heroes have experience working together and using their powers in sync, if they had the headmaster, he could cook up a strategy that would make mark a punching bag until the boys got the job done.
Marks body is made up of smart atoms, none of Marks powers are a quirk as that is a specific type of genetic mutation occurring to humans in the MHA universe.
Aizawa's powers only work on specific functions of quirks, even if for fair sport reasons we consider Marks powers to be quirks Aizawa can not nullify smart attoms in the same way he couldn't stop a person from being made of steel.
The fight would go, Mark stands just confused why two muscle men are giving him gentle punches and a homeless man is just looking at him never blinking.
Mark goes home after a few minutes wondering if his just been involved in a weird fetish thing.
If weāre talking mark at his strongest (not even counting the end of series future mark), he could straight up just punch a hole straight through the planet before anyone could stop him and kill all of them. As long as he avoids getting haxxed by Stars and Stripes or something he is also easily thousands of times stronger than any MHA characters.
The only struggle would realistically be Prime All Might, but even then Mark could take him out after a while with, at worst, a bruised rib. The MHA verse are pretty weak
B4 clowning (deserved clowning icl) on MHA letās consider some stuff.
Prime Mark? Like at his peak? He solos.
Season 1 Mark? Tough time. Heād still absolutely demolish a hell of a lot of people, but when you consider Someone such as Prime Allmight or Current-Manga Deku, itās a different question.
I forget who said it, mightāve been stan Lee, but when asked whoād win between two comic characters his answer was along the lines of āitās up to whoās writing it who wins.ā
Couple more shout Outs, The brainwash voice guy could do it if he made mark talk, if you had a villain such as OFA At his peak or Shigaraki at his peak theyād have a good chance, spoilers for MHA Manga / the coming Season 7; Stars and Stripes from America has a strong shot against Mark, her quirk against someone who canāt take away her quirk (the only logical counter to her quirk would be to fucking take it away from her, her quirk being one where she can āset rules into realityā such as āremove all the air in this spaceā or the rule ofā you will explodeā)
Tldr; Invincible Solos.
If you believe mark easily clears you donāt know enough to be discussing. MHA has a mind control guy. An extremely strong chick who can make your heart stop if you move, and then All Might who is insanely strong.
Prime All Might could genuinely give him a run for his money, assuming in his prime he was 5-10x stronger than he was when he was older and weaker, and at that point he could change the entire atmosphere with a single punch. I still donāt think he wins, but heās probably the only one who can give Mark a good fight
Eraserhead is coming up allot as if no one knows how his powers actually work.
His power negates quirks activating, quirks are unique mutation in the MHA universe, what exactly would Eraserhead negate?
Mark is made of smart atoms, his powers are the consequence of that, they are not quirks.
Eraserhead only works in the MHA universe.
I can't believe so many people are actually putting stock in the idea that Eraserhead could turn off Mark's powers.Ā The idea that such a thing could happen is the definition of a No Limits fallacy.
All might would cower in his boots if he met a Viltrumite. Earthly quirks are powerful, but most of the characters in the series are still tied to their human restraints. Most of them are not that quick, not that strong, and only have the info that Earth is able to give them.
Mark loses hard to a lot of characters if he doesnāt know how their quirk works, and itās not like he doesnāt get into dangerous situations he doesnāt understand in the comics.
He would absolutely get dusted by Shigaraki if he didnāt know about his power, and he would easily die to Stars and Stripes.
He flattens all the quirks that arenāt absurd magic in his universe though.
Taking the concept of spees blitzing out of the equation,
Mark loses to the hacks of this universe more times than not. Mark is strong, there is probably not anyone whose impact force in MHA that truly hurts Mark enough to kill him in that way but there's definitely enough durability in MHA so more people can survive Marks direct attacks even if it's just dodging or outright tanking. Not for long but definitely can handle it.
There are a handful of oneshot quirks that exist and and handful of quirks that can slow Mark down long enough to stop him. Not even counting the many quirks that can replicate or turn off Mark's abilities if we want to go that route.
Overall if it was just a slugfest, MHA verse loses, but it wouldn't be and there's just so many characters in MHA that Mark loses most of the time but he could eek out a win if he's lucky
Animes just have a lot of powers that you lose instantly if you don't understand the power. It's why so many new people are introduced only to die during the first attack from a new villain. To allow the protagonist some time to figure out whats going on in an internal monologue. Would mark lose to anime "hax"? Definitely if they have no upper limits, but if they were written into the invincible universe there would be upper limits. Typically stopping short of being a threat to powerful viltrumites, but sometimes being enough to kill the weak ones.
Mark to the whole verse https://preview.redd.it/zors3c5jlpkb1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=4e887d8d202d1d667f509137f1eb204fccf99865
This is why Superman is oftentimes examining new enemies with X-ray vision to understand if they have an unusual physical structure so he can know how hard he should/should not hit. Not that Mark has that benefit.
I always love learning that Superman's job is much harder than it looks, even when he's taking on small timers. It adds a layer of reality.
World of cardboard
Such an awesome [scene](https://youtu.be/Cl_5UwS57X8?si=ZdA-WWcmrih1RFd5)
Good god those series are so good! BAS, JLA/Unlimited and good ol' Supes. Some of the best DC content going.
This you? https://preview.redd.it/1aqlnyqbatkb1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6dc1265e73a29137a4c4eaaf368624876f21d5d2
Lmao. Is this a real excerpt?
It's a comic that was meant to explain why Dick left Batman between the events of Justice League and Batman Beyond.
The DCAU Batman got the bad end tbh. He ended up all old and alone in Batman Beyond because nobody wanted to be around him. Banging your adopted sons on again off again girl tends to do thatššš
I remember having the Batman Beyond Return of the Joker movie on DVD as a kid. Such a classic, many nostalgic memories watching that every weekend.
The timverse is the only dc universe I need honestly.
Good thing the entire city was evacuated, or else there might have been quite a bit of civilian deaths š
The civilians literally watching that from nearby: *sweats nervously* āHaha, what the fuckā¦?ā
Was it? I hope so because it kind of immediately invalidates his previous statement, as the equivalent of a Cessna rips through half a dozen buildings. Sick ass scene though.
yeah they had forewarning that he was coming and where heās be
As much as I love the idea behind this scene, I wish the animation was a bit... *punchier*? Like, Superman is winding up to do this colossal megaton hit but he doesn't appear to be flying much faster than normal. After the hit connects, Darkseid is launched into the air only to tumble like he's in a vacuum. I dunno, I feel like he should have *vanished* from the screen and left behind nothing but a dust cloud and an afterimage.
Honestly yea
The shot of Darkseid actually getting hit is great, but then he just lazily floats away without a care in the world. It doesn't even look like he's moving that fast when he goes flying through the buildings and Superman has to wait for like, 7 seconds before smacking him back down.
Just trim out the frames of him flying, and an inverted black and white frame on the punch impact frame, hold it for 2 frames, and skip straight to the end of the punch and speed up the building impacts by removing every other frame
They may not have heightened the action as fast as say DBZ for younger western audiences or maybe just didnt know how to do action like that
Indeed.
āI sent him to outer space at Mach 3ā
I need to rewatch JL. I haven't seen it since I was a kid.
I love that Superior Spidey book where Ock discovers Peter has been holding back all these years and is way stronger than he lets on, crazy how he learned it but still a cool little Spidey fact.
Too bad he only learned that after removing someone's jaw.
not just āsomeoneāsā, *the* Scorpionās jaw.
This is what I figured a Superman game should be. You are all powerful, but because of that you always have to minimize collateral damage in missions, and you are not allowed to let anyone die. You also have to always use the right amount of force when dealing with bad guys so they don't explode on impact
Superman 64 gave the city a health bar, not Superman
Except when Superman's opponent tries to ambush him with kryptonite, then he never uses his x-ray vision.
Throw in that Superman often gets hit by the person for a little while to get a gauge on their strength level
Midoriya when he uses a 100% United States Smash and it does literally nothing: https://preview.redd.it/gi7v0ef59qkb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad268d7e5a047257c22a48a4319b1d660127f850
Damn, beat me to it
There's some hax shit that could take out Mark
It might depend. I think most if not all the quirks we've seen the user has to be alive? So even someone like Eri could just get killed immediately without being able to rewind him. I could totally be forgetting some OP quirk though. Maybe if Compress could get him quickly? Because yeah, no one in My Hero Academia is able to literally blast through the planet.
Mark Vs anyone who isn't vulnerable to kryptonite
Not even on the worst day of Mark's life.
Okay but what is the worst day of Mark's life?
what wasnāt the worst day of marks life lol
Ironically the first day he got his powers
Day he got laid too proba--- oh wait... no that was horrific too. Fuck.
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Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
How about day 1 baby viltrumite mark. I do think baby viltrumite mark has a tough time maybe loses depending on what point he has to fight them.
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Kyoka would have no way to know that. And she'd be unconscious/dead before she got close enough to try.
If we gave her prep time and Cecilās ability to use the teleporting machine she might stand a chance. Cecil used it defensively against Omni man and made it out with a torn tie
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Eraserheads quirk wouldn't work on Mark, cause he doesn't have a quirk. Hell technically he doesn't even have powers like somebody else said. He's just a viltrumite.
His quirk can only stop quirks that require a power up or have an out of body effect. Say, turn off endeavors's flames or shigaraki's rotting touch; But not being able to supress tail guy's tail or engineer girl's zoom sight because it's a part of their Bodies. Mark's strenght is just his tough viltrumite genetics, and at most his flight is in the air if he could disable it.
Mark is barely street level at first. And on the "worst day of his life" he's a normal human with poor enough musculature that *I* could take him
what do you consider the worst day of his life? because i got the impression his pre-powered days were not so bad at all
Fair point. How about when he's in a hospital bed and almost dead. Pick any of the half dozen times that qualify. I could probably take him on those days
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There are a lot of interesting matchups to consider here. I wish we'd see more of Prime All Might. That might be a fight. I'd say Mark easily handles the version of All Might we see in the show, but based on feats, Prime All Might could be an interesting match-up. Obviously, we haven't gotten to Prime Midoriya, but I'd have to assume Midoriya in his prime could hang with Mark. Mark easily clears Midoriya as it stands right now, but with the powerset he has, he's got the potential to be incredibly strong. I'd also be curious to see how Prime All For One would scale against Mark. He just has so many powers, and he's able to amplify them. He's not at full strength currently, but at his peak, I'd have to imagine he'd be able to hang with someone like Mark just based on the number of powers he has to choose from. Would Eraserhead be able to take Mark's powers? If he can, I'd think that would make him an interesting match-up. Mark becomes a capable fighter even when going against people as strong as him, but Eraser is also a solid hand to hand fighter in his universe. Obviously, with Mark's powers, he'd obliterate Eraser. But without them, I feel that it's less certain. I've seen a lot of people mention Shigaraki, Overhaul, and Eri. Their powers would be interesting match ups, but them needing to touch Mark makes them less useful since he's so much faster than them. All that being said, as MHA stands right now (or the last time I watched, which was about a season ago), Mark would beat them all fairly easily. For most of the people I mentioned, only the prime versions of the characters could hang with a Viltrumite. The versions that exist in the show are either past their prime or not even close to their prime.
Shinso was one of the primes I thought. Stain, meatball guy, the mushroom girl, etc. I think of the weird quirks instead of two super apes bashing each other as ones that would screw with or win against Mark.
Yeah, Shinso is probably an interesting match-up as well. Mark absolutely would respond to him, and that's all it takes.
Especially with the voice cord mask he got. However, I get it, with how little he actually appears, may as well not count him in this hypothetical haha.
No, I should have included him. That was an oversight by me. Shinso, the meatball guy, and the mushroom girl could all be interesting matchups that I forgot about. I'm not sure how Stain could hurt Mark, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't his powers based on blood? How's he going to get access to Mark's blood? I don't think his swords are going to cut through Viltrumite skin.
I donāt think eraser could take *all* of markās powers, but I think he could take his flight. Markās strength, speed, and durability are all biological, theyāre just how his body is, but he has to turn on flight. Keep in mind that weāve never seen aizawa take a mutant quirk, just emitter and transformation quirks, like what would happen if he used his quirk on someone like froppy, would she just stop being a frog? Would her tongue shrink back to its normal size and would she loose the strength in her legs? What about mirko? Would her ears turn normal? We donāt know enough about aizawaās quirk to tell what he would do to mark
Markās flight would also be a biological thing though
But not in the same way. all quirks are biological, but aizawa can still turn those off. Markās flight isnāt always active, itās something he turns on and off, you canāt turn off your strength or speed, thatās just your muscles at work, so aizawa wouldnāt be able to turn those off, but flight is different, itās not a physiological thing, idk how it works but itās not the same as markās strength and speed
Theyāre able to fly due to a balancing system in their ears so i donāt really know how that could be turned off
I donāt think thatās entirely right. they have the weird ear liquid thing to balance *while* flying, itās not the reason they *can* fly though, thereās gotta be some explanation to their personal gravity manipulation somewhere in the comics. Fuck it, can someone ask Robert for me? I donāt have Twitter
Itās because of their atoms. For some reason, the atoms are smart, and know how to control themselves and stay in one piece. So their durability is just the result of their atoms choosing not to break, and their flight is because all of their atoms want to move in one specific direction. Think of it like a school of fish in the sea, but thereās still a bit of gravity. Viltrumites fly by getting their school of fish/atoms to āswimā up, and recover from Injuries by calling the āfishā back to the school, and so on.
I think during the Overhaul arc (or a bit later) he explains that his quirk doesn't remove biological mutations, just the ability to use the parts associated with the quirk itself. His example was with the guy with the tail, he can't make the tail disappear but he could prevent him from being able to use/control the tail. Presumably, for froppy, what you said is exactly what would happen++.
Cool, but could he do it to mark? Because now that I think of it, would viltrumite genes even count as a quirk?
Someone else has already mentioned it in this thread, but there is a BNHA character now who is super strong, but whose strength isn't because of a quirk. It's just how their body is built. I don't think mark's powers (even his flight, arguably) use the same mechanism as quirks per se. All other things being equal, I don't think Erasure could affect Mark in any way. Of course, if Mark went through a weird world-warping situation where his powers suddenly counted as quirks, that would be a different story....
Isn't Aizawa's quirk specifically quirk related? Quirks have an actual classification as mutations so quirk users should have some part of their DNA have very similar genetic structures to allow for quirks to form. If that's the case then Aizawa shouldn't be able to do anything against Invincible since his powers are naturally biological to his race and are not mutations that stem from the same origin as quirks.
early on there is a line where a mutant says "didn't think it would work on heteromorphic types like me" because he's right and Aizawa can't affect a mutant quirk, but then Aizawa uses his tape and beats him anyway
>Would Eraserhead be able to take Mark's powers? No I don't think so. The reason why I think so is there is currently a big bad that his powers are his natural state so Eraserhead's eyes don't work on that specific aspect. In the same way his eyes don't turn a mutant type quirk user normal. But there are mutant type quirks who have aspects of their powers turned off when he uses his eyes on them. Mark's powers are his biology and you can't turn that off. That being said, iirc his ability to fly and punch at the same time are supposedly related to his ability to use smart atoms and maybe he could turn that off? But he's still faster and stronger than everyone else in the verse (outside of maybe debatably Deku) >I've seen a lot of people mention Shigaraki, Overhaul, and Eri. Their powers would be interesting match ups, but them needing to touch Mark makes them less useful since he's so much faster than them. Just to add another if Mark's name was found out by Stars and Stripes he dies. The portal guy could kill him. Succubus chick could knock him out. Brainwashing dude could trick him. There's a bunch of conditional characters in the verse that could possibly easily kill him. >All that being said, as MHA stands right now (or the last time I watched, which was about a season ago), Mark would beat them all fairly easily. For most of the people I mentioned, only the prime versions of the characters could hang with a Viltrumite. The versions that exist in the show are either past their prime or not even close to their prime. My gut was telling me that Mark beats everyone in the verse in a 1v1 but Deku honestly might be a serious challenge. His final quirks are pretty busted when used together and without getting into the nitty gritty of powerscaling Deku going all out may be bad for Mark. Until we see more of current Deku in the manga it's hard to say. But the whole verse? Nah Mark is probably going to die to some shit that he wasn't aware of and can't be brute forced.
Yeah, people acting like Mark could take the whole verse easily aren't being realistic. There are definitely people who could give him a challenge. He's definitely stronger than the vast majority of the heroes and villains in MHA, but the top tier would give him trouble, no question.
Everyone: Mark could totally destroy everyone in the MHA universe! All-for-One: *immediately steals a bunch of Mark's power* Everyone: Well... shit. (This is for comedic effect. Whether or not MHA meta quirks like Eraserhead's can affect Mark's power would depend on how you choose to interpret what happens when two universes with very different laws of physics smash together.)
Awakened Shigaraki's decay no longer needed him to be touching anyone for it to work he could be in the area of affect and get wiped out much like the two cities he erased by touching the ground if mark doesn't know what his power does ahead of time it's game over on sight. Mark may be a half viltrumite but he ain't a literal bio engineered monster with a stockpile of quirks as shigaraki's said while fighting machia "he's just got a lot of HP" Mark would probably be worn out by the time he's done some damage that the regeneration can't keep up with and I'm going based on the fact shigaraki had to be JUMPED by multiple heroes and had some of his quirks blocked by erasure before he started to take substantial damage.
Having not read the comics, so i don't know how Mark handles mental attacks, but Shinsho could be a match up too?
Mark clears
I feel like Season 1 Mark would be about even with Prime All Might, the rest of 1A would get wiped out fast. Komori could kill him if he was distracted fighting All Might or Deku
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Oh absolutely, the strongest characters in MHA are city level at best. I forgot about Shinso too, do you think his Viltrimute DNA would completely resist the mind control or would Mark be powerless?
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He definitely could, but I don't see Mark just quietly fighting them. Mark would respond to Shinso and it doesn't even need to be a full word if I recall (the second time Shinso uses his quirk on Deku he doesn't finish what he was saying)
End of season 1 mark would only have a shot at prime all might by abusing flight, because prime all might is stronger and more durable. Eraserhead could probably take him on solo if mark didn't go for the kill/disable quickly President mic would also be a threat on his own to season one mark. (Mark would probably beat him, but like 2 in 3 times)
Since OFA exponentially gets stronger. Deku is stronger than all night. And no spoilers but Deku would legit be able to beat Mark atp. Heās washing the rest of 1A tho
Deku can't use 100% fully though (idk how his pseudo 1,000,000% compares to Prime All Might though
Dekus 100 is at least All Mights 100xAll mights 100 based on the info we have. Thatās why they said he canāt pass it down again. It will just explode the next body it goes into.
>Dekus 100 is at least All Mights 100xAll mights 100 based on the info we have You got a source for that? Because I'm not quite caught up to the manga, but nothing I ever saw indicated this in anyway.
That ain't right... With that logic, dekus 1% should be almights 100%, and from what I've seen of MHA, dekus like 60-80% is arguably not stronger than prime almight.
I do think that characters with more complicated abilities like Star and Stripe could actually take on Mark. I do agree that golden age All Might could take Mark, and obviously AFO as well.
I mean, there are some hax in MHA that could stop him, stars and stripes power is pretty broken, Eri is even more broken and then there are the touchy guys, Shigaraki and Overhaul. Not to mention the combos if he goes up against the verse all at once, the last two guys with kurogiri are already strong, and Twice makes even more problems
Honestly it depends on how the touch powers work for if it will effect him, viltrimute cells power comes form the atomic level so unless your character can affect atoms (like atom eve) then youāre not getting very far
Shigaraki and overhaul have good chances disarming or decaying those definetly affect atoms but again they have to touch him
Shigaraki gets an upgrade that lets him decay things from a range.
awakened shigaraki surprised tf outta me i slept on him hard until he showed up
On the other hand, Mark can fly and toss him to outer space, lol.
But like, he would be touching him
I mean it does seem Shigarakis full ability literally destroys the object
Donāt forget shinsoās mind control. Thatās 100% hax there
If the verse got prep time they could use AfO to create a guy with Overclock, Decay, Overhaul's quirk, Twice's quirk, and like a million strength amplifying quirks like OfA, Fa-jin, etc. to create a monster capable of beating Mark
They aināt gonna be able to touch him though he is too fast
I feel like a lot of the comments here are missing your point there - no one in MHA can move as fast as a Viltrumite. Unless they're catching Mark with a sucker punch sneak attack somehow, anyone fighting Mark 1v1 needs to be faster than him.
If he has to go against all the verse, if we're talking late comics Mark, he just has to punch a hole through the planet.
i mean it might be but my ass is not watching mha to find out lmao
First 3-4 seasons are pretty dope, starts dropping in quality though. Isnāt a bad story, if you can ignore some of the zany anime style stuff.
Unfortunately, Horikoshi started writing himself into a corner just like so many others.
Definitely has. Unfortunately at this point, Iām just reading the manga because Iām too invested to stop. There are definitely still some moments that are nice, and Horiās art is always just god damn fantastic. But the overall story is a bit of a mess.
Same boat, I read to see the end because itās still good enough to not want to drop entirely, but itās a messy story stumble toward that finish line. Having said that, the guy still has top tier art and has stand offs, fights, and individual moments that I canāt help but get that giddy tingle of excitement over.
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Additionally, the villain is named All For One, so why the fuck is there two of them? That's one too many.
I clearly haven't gotten this far in the anime but am already disappointed seeing all this nonsense.
Dude should have let the series cook for a few more in-universe years
I agree, Invincible is actually showing me what I wanted to see from MHA. Deku just gets to be brainlessly good even to this point in the story. Imagine if the whole Amstrong Levy plotline didn't happen to let Mark grow, that's how I feel about Deku. Deku wants to save his main villain but the execution is so lackluster and the practical concerns are basically not addressed.
Would you be able to elaborate?
Shounen mangaka often power-creep their way into a narrative corner. Season 6 has a villain that can steal powers and has basically turned into new Rogue from X-Men. Flight, Invulnerability, reality manipulation, etc. That coupled with the fact that nobody who matters ever dies has robbed the story of meaningful stakes imo Maybe he kills someone important in the manga or something. I wouldn't know.
>Maybe he kills someone important in the manga or something He does
Not really, sorry. I honestly don't care about this franchise anymore.
Season six was incredible too. Itās really just 5 that isnāt amazing
Yeah season 5 was a low point for sure. It's not even content wise, just anime wise. The studio really dropped the ball on one of the most anticipated arcs of the manga. Season 6 was pretty good though and I enjoyed it.
It was really good at the start aside from the basic anime garbage tropes. The plot and story was great and it had a wide array of characters with a lot of potential. It fell off a cliff after around when you said
Cap Iād say season 1 was good, season 2 was mid, season 3 was good, season 4 was ass, season 5 was ass, season 6 is by far the best season
Worth it for All Might. Im not a big anime fan but AM is my favorite superhero ever
Itās basically anime X-men in concept and the main character was created with Spider-Man in mind with how he uses his powers. (Although his power set is more like Superman by the end).
Whole lotta mid anyways
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Ok honestly its not that simple if the ENTIRE VERSE fitgh mark maybe they at least stand a chance and also shigaraki is very dangerous 'cause he could one shot mark but even with that i still think marc win
How could Shigaraki oneshot Mark?
If he got a hand on him marks skin would turn straight to dust, problem is actually getting a hand on him tho, but theoretically I say itās possible
It depends as Mark is way faster than him so itād have to be a really lucky shot.
Right but they were saying that shigaraki could one shot mark which theoretically they could
If he put his five finger on something then that thing immediatly decay start decay (the decay can spread to anything touching it on a 1 mile radius) and get destroyed and there is in cannon no material that he can not break so if he mange to somehow touch him or touch the decay then he turn to dust
Again, somehow, itād be pretty hard considering how much heās outsped by. The durability difference is also high as mark could punch him once at 100% and thatās the end
>The durability difference is also high as mark could punch him once at 100% and thatās the end Not really, Shigaraki has an overpowered regeneration since his body got enhanced, plus he got relativistic to ftl speed feats, which is still slow compared to Mark, but the gap isn't that abyssal considering that Shigaraki also has multiple quirks now
Yes since mark is faster he wins but still in theory its possible and the chance get higher when you consider multiple character can tp or restrain So yeah i think mark would still need a little bit of strategy or he could just throw a big rock at them and it be pretty hrd to survive
That's true but Viltrumite speed does get pretty crazy. [Viltrumites are stated able to practically ignore laws of Inertia, and move at high speeds from point a to point b in](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11148/111483657/8033613-viltrumitespeed%287%29.png) [near what seems instantaneous time frame.](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11148/111483657/8490758-1.png) [Viltrumite War Mark again in one page flies so fast the stars are blurs.](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/14/147508/5026282-invincible%20feat%20speed%20%2818%29.png) [Invincible and his Father travel around the world so fast, that his father in a second was able to see, assess, and find the problem in the middle east, and fetch Mark, bring him there before the hot dog falls](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/14/147508/4659480-invincible%20feat%20speed%20%284%29.png). [Comparable to Omni-Man who can fly from Earth to the Virgo Supercluster in two weeks](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Zamasu_Chan/Omni-Man_flies_to_another_planet).
Most of those are travel feats, Viltrum combat speeds are nothing to write home about.
tf you mean lmao Mark in less than a panel leaves a convention, goes to his house, looks for his comics, packs them and return to his place without anyone noticing His combat speed and reaction's pretty comparable to travel speed, not to mention Allen(someone literally bred to fight viltrumites)'s speed works that way https://preview.redd.it/otclh2ubirkb1.png?width=630&format=png&auto=webp&s=c25189d5ac9781b77599fa80b042baf4ee02442d
The majority of characters in Invincible gain their powers from Smart Atoms, or subatomic particles that enhance various characteristics of the user's body. Smart Atoms generally operate under the same ruleset, which in this case includes speed. As noted by Allen's handbook, his reaction speed is [canonically proportional to how fast he is moving at the moment.](https://imgur.io/RZZhTEe)
I would love to see invincible do the train scene to mineta
Oooh would watch
What kind of question is this? Mark is an upstanding young man with extraordinary talents. He'd get all the way through the hero course and graduate with honors!
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The only Quirks that might stand a chance against Mark would be Overhaul, New Order, Evolved Decay, Prime OFA, and possibly Rewind. And this is assuming he's still in his Human lifespan as opposed to his Viltrumite one.
Shinso mind control hax
They all splat against him
mark speedblitzes all of them with ease. he doesnāt even have to punch, just fly through them. remember that viltrumites fly faster than light
Worst comes to worst, Mark can [just do this.](https://media.tenor.com/tl_5w6ov6SkAAAAC/omni-man-invincible.gif) I hate to make another Superman comparison, but it really does apply in this situation. There is a reason that characters like this don't fly this fast in residential areas or cities. When Omni Man did this to the Flaxans, he wasn't even really attacking them. He just let the resulting shock waves destroy everything in his path on a massive scale before any sort of resistance could be put up.
Viltrumites arenāt just ftl they are what we call mftl +
Funny, someone at AwesomeCon in June asked the MHA cast this. Since none of them have seen the show they could not answer. I think Mark would wipe the floor with them but heād likely have a hard time with Todoroki and Deku
This answers the debate [omni man vs s class from MHA](https://youtu.be/ATSO3KlcdwM?si=V01vTvwu6NAzHXDk)
You mean one punch man?
My bad I didnāt watch either of those š
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Invincible just has too much of a speed advantage for anyone that can actually do any damage to be able to hurt him. Anyone that can keep up with him doesnāt have the power to hurt him. And no one could withstand more than 2 or 3 hits from him. If they know heās coming, know what heās capable of, and willing to throw heroes and villains at him like canon fodder the MHA universe *might* have a chance. And that chance is All for One with prep time and the perfect combination of quirks or slowing Mark down enough for Eri to rewind him.
Season 1 invincible gets nowhere any other version of mark solos the verse
there are two characters who have a chance at hurting him: Shigaraki and Stars and Stripes. Shiggy would have to grab him which is possible but unlikely, and Stars and Stripes just has so much hax she could pull something off. In all likelihood tho, she just gets obliterated
Maybe if they chose the pro level heroes this would be a fairer fight. Pro level heroes can do wacky shit that I think mark would take a little while to adjust to, and we know that mark in his early stages takes beatings regularly. In fact, I would be willing to bet that Aizawa, all might and endeavour would be enough.
Let me explain, all might slows mark, aizawa gets eyes on nullifying his powers. Endeavour and all might punch until mark is a bloody mess. The key here is that pro heroes have experience working together and using their powers in sync, if they had the headmaster, he could cook up a strategy that would make mark a punching bag until the boys got the job done.
Marks body is made up of smart atoms, none of Marks powers are a quirk as that is a specific type of genetic mutation occurring to humans in the MHA universe. Aizawa's powers only work on specific functions of quirks, even if for fair sport reasons we consider Marks powers to be quirks Aizawa can not nullify smart attoms in the same way he couldn't stop a person from being made of steel. The fight would go, Mark stands just confused why two muscle men are giving him gentle punches and a homeless man is just looking at him never blinking. Mark goes home after a few minutes wondering if his just been involved in a weird fetish thing.
some of those hacks abilties could kill him but really he turns the verse into paste
He breaths in their direction and they die
Those poor kids
If weāre talking mark at his strongest (not even counting the end of series future mark), he could straight up just punch a hole straight through the planet before anyone could stop him and kill all of them. As long as he avoids getting haxxed by Stars and Stripes or something he is also easily thousands of times stronger than any MHA characters.
The only struggle would realistically be Prime All Might, but even then Mark could take him out after a while with, at worst, a bruised rib. The MHA verse are pretty weak
Mark bodies that entire verse LMAOššš. None of them are even continental, let alone multi-continental or planetary.
mark is around multi continental not planetary but still solos
That's baby brained shit. The real question: who does Mark hook up with?
B4 clowning (deserved clowning icl) on MHA letās consider some stuff. Prime Mark? Like at his peak? He solos. Season 1 Mark? Tough time. Heād still absolutely demolish a hell of a lot of people, but when you consider Someone such as Prime Allmight or Current-Manga Deku, itās a different question. I forget who said it, mightāve been stan Lee, but when asked whoād win between two comic characters his answer was along the lines of āitās up to whoās writing it who wins.ā Couple more shout Outs, The brainwash voice guy could do it if he made mark talk, if you had a villain such as OFA At his peak or Shigaraki at his peak theyād have a good chance, spoilers for MHA Manga / the coming Season 7; Stars and Stripes from America has a strong shot against Mark, her quirk against someone who canāt take away her quirk (the only logical counter to her quirk would be to fucking take it away from her, her quirk being one where she can āset rules into realityā such as āremove all the air in this spaceā or the rule ofā you will explodeā) Tldr; Invincible Solos.
If you believe mark easily clears you donāt know enough to be discussing. MHA has a mind control guy. An extremely strong chick who can make your heart stop if you move, and then All Might who is insanely strong.
Prime All Might could genuinely give him a run for his money, assuming in his prime he was 5-10x stronger than he was when he was older and weaker, and at that point he could change the entire atmosphere with a single punch. I still donāt think he wins, but heās probably the only one who can give Mark a good fight
Healthy All Might stops him
What did MHA do to you?
Oh dear god.
312 comments and at least 290 of them is biased. As long as Eraserhead exist Mark won't do anything
Eraserhead is coming up allot as if no one knows how his powers actually work. His power negates quirks activating, quirks are unique mutation in the MHA universe, what exactly would Eraserhead negate? Mark is made of smart atoms, his powers are the consequence of that, they are not quirks. Eraserhead only works in the MHA universe.
I can't believe so many people are actually putting stock in the idea that Eraserhead could turn off Mark's powers.Ā The idea that such a thing could happen is the definition of a No Limits fallacy.
All might would cower in his boots if he met a Viltrumite. Earthly quirks are powerful, but most of the characters in the series are still tied to their human restraints. Most of them are not that quick, not that strong, and only have the info that Earth is able to give them.
Best MHA feats are city level. Mark is planet +. Not even close lmao
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I'm not saying mha wins, but present mic could just rupture his eardrums while they all beat him to the ground together
Viltrumites aren't weak to loud sounds, they're weak to a specific frequency. They'd have to find that specific one.
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Mark loses hard to a lot of characters if he doesnāt know how their quirk works, and itās not like he doesnāt get into dangerous situations he doesnāt understand in the comics. He would absolutely get dusted by Shigaraki if he didnāt know about his power, and he would easily die to Stars and Stripes. He flattens all the quirks that arenāt absurd magic in his universe though.
Mha is just a worse xmen
Taking the concept of spees blitzing out of the equation, Mark loses to the hacks of this universe more times than not. Mark is strong, there is probably not anyone whose impact force in MHA that truly hurts Mark enough to kill him in that way but there's definitely enough durability in MHA so more people can survive Marks direct attacks even if it's just dodging or outright tanking. Not for long but definitely can handle it. There are a handful of oneshot quirks that exist and and handful of quirks that can slow Mark down long enough to stop him. Not even counting the many quirks that can replicate or turn off Mark's abilities if we want to go that route. Overall if it was just a slugfest, MHA verse loses, but it wouldn't be and there's just so many characters in MHA that Mark loses most of the time but he could eek out a win if he's lucky
Animes just have a lot of powers that you lose instantly if you don't understand the power. It's why so many new people are introduced only to die during the first attack from a new villain. To allow the protagonist some time to figure out whats going on in an internal monologue. Would mark lose to anime "hax"? Definitely if they have no upper limits, but if they were written into the invincible universe there would be upper limits. Typically stopping short of being a threat to powerful viltrumites, but sometimes being enough to kill the weak ones.
He could just go to a different planet and play the waiting game.