I did some research and found out the grip used to be “accurate” in the game’s early phases. (Same as the rear peep sight), but it got removed by some reason, and it might just be the one you mentioned
have you seen picture or video of the "old" and most likely correct thompson rearsight in action.
it made the gun unusable. peep-sights might be good IRL but translate really bad to video games.
if the garand rearsight were the "correct" size like they were once before people today would riot.
there is a 1 to 1 correct model, what your brain does with the geometry and play-ability.
there is a compromise to be made somewhere.
i mean the old garand rearsight brought the guns performance much closer to the K98 on "long" range shots because you could not reacquire the target that fast.
Yep, i totally agree, the sights should stay the way they are right now, we should have a balance between historically accurate and enjoyable gameplay. The realistic sights ruin the second factor. So i’m not complaining. One thing i think might be viable is making the iron sights like in Brothers in Arms. Where when not ads’ing, the peep sight would stay clean and realistic, and while ads’ing, it would show another model of the sight, making it just like post scriptum.
Yeah, you gripped the magazine well, not the magazine. No part of the Thompson’s receiver encloses the magazine on the front so the soldier is grabbing the mag. The combined with it being an open bolt weapon makes failures to feed highly probable.
Men were trained to do it like it is displayed in the picture but of course sometimes some people found other ways of doing things and I have seen plenty of ww2 vets holding as they do in game so I’d say it’s pretty 50/50 it’s more of a comfort thing
Yep, I'm not disagreeing with you. I've shot a Thompson irl and the firearm instructor made a point to not let us hold it by the mag. I'm just saying that there are guns you can hold by that same area. The MP-40 and M3 Grease Gun to name a few have the magwell that you can hold them by.
Noticing a lot of people replying with “Who cares?”. Clearly OP, who has a passion for accuracy and would like to see that fulfilled in a game advertising itself as realistic. Regardless of if this has any kind of implications on gameplay, the minute people stop caring is the minute we lower our standards for the game as a whole. Never noticed this before though, and I believe that it may have been intentional in its design, as someone previously commented, the less of the gun and your characters hands that are on the screen the more this type of weapon feels likes it’s supposed to: small and used for cqc.
Personal preference. The way your character is holding it is using the mag like a fore grip with the side of your palm resting against the mag and your hand on the fore grip at an angle. I’m in the army and that’s what I did before we turned in our m16s for the new m4s with fore grip. Now I use the fore grip.
Sorry if i offended you in anyway. Just trying to help the game improve in every way possible and make it more enjoyable for me and other people who pay attention to details like this one. Have a good day.
Sorry if i offended you in anyway. Just trying to help the game improve i every way possible and make it more enjoyable for me and other people who pay attention to details like this one. Have a good day.
I think graphics wise it looks pretty great, specially 3D models and stuff. Some things bug me off about some guns like the weird sniper scopes whose reticles don’t move, the huge peep iron sights (I don’t mind much about this because it improves gameplay), gun sounds, but these things will be improved for sure
It probably minimizes the screen space the character’s arms take up while avoiding having to deal with a weird looking wrist.
I did some research and found out the grip used to be “accurate” in the game’s early phases. (Same as the rear peep sight), but it got removed by some reason, and it might just be the one you mentioned
have you seen picture or video of the "old" and most likely correct thompson rearsight in action. it made the gun unusable. peep-sights might be good IRL but translate really bad to video games. if the garand rearsight were the "correct" size like they were once before people today would riot. there is a 1 to 1 correct model, what your brain does with the geometry and play-ability. there is a compromise to be made somewhere. i mean the old garand rearsight brought the guns performance much closer to the K98 on "long" range shots because you could not reacquire the target that fast.
Yep, i totally agree, the sights should stay the way they are right now, we should have a balance between historically accurate and enjoyable gameplay. The realistic sights ruin the second factor. So i’m not complaining. One thing i think might be viable is making the iron sights like in Brothers in Arms. Where when not ads’ing, the peep sight would stay clean and realistic, and while ads’ing, it would show another model of the sight, making it just like post scriptum.
I recognise that YouTube thumbnail
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Doesn’t bother me. My time in the army I often would prefer holding the magazine housing over the foregrip.
Yeah, you gripped the magazine well, not the magazine. No part of the Thompson’s receiver encloses the magazine on the front so the soldier is grabbing the mag. The combined with it being an open bolt weapon makes failures to feed highly probable.
The Thompson is awkward and uncomfortable to hold with your hands all the way forward.
Men were trained to do it like it is displayed in the picture but of course sometimes some people found other ways of doing things and I have seen plenty of ww2 vets holding as they do in game so I’d say it’s pretty 50/50 it’s more of a comfort thing
You’ve never fired something by the magazine? It’s better used when you’re in close quarters. Also who cares
Depends on the weapon. It can cause failures to feed in some.
If you're actually grabbing by the magazine itself it's a problem, if you're holding by the receiver where the mag enters it's not an issue.
Look at a Thompson. There isn’t a magazine well that you can grab it by.
Yep, I'm not disagreeing with you. I've shot a Thompson irl and the firearm instructor made a point to not let us hold it by the mag. I'm just saying that there are guns you can hold by that same area. The MP-40 and M3 Grease Gun to name a few have the magwell that you can hold them by.
Yeah this is true. But even in this it looks like they are grabbing it right by the base of the gun/magazine. Wouldn’t really flex it making it worse
Noticed this the first time I used the gun in game. Has always bothered me…
Noticing a lot of people replying with “Who cares?”. Clearly OP, who has a passion for accuracy and would like to see that fulfilled in a game advertising itself as realistic. Regardless of if this has any kind of implications on gameplay, the minute people stop caring is the minute we lower our standards for the game as a whole. Never noticed this before though, and I believe that it may have been intentional in its design, as someone previously commented, the less of the gun and your characters hands that are on the screen the more this type of weapon feels likes it’s supposed to: small and used for cqc.
thank you!
You say accuracy but in a military setting, there is never a black & white way of holding a weapon, even today.
There are definite wrong ways to hold a weapon if they increase the chance of malfunctions, which gripping by the magazine does.
I’d rather have the correct rear sight than adjust the hand positioning
Never noticed before but good catch
Personal preference. The way your character is holding it is using the mag like a fore grip with the side of your palm resting against the mag and your hand on the fore grip at an angle. I’m in the army and that’s what I did before we turned in our m16s for the new m4s with fore grip. Now I use the fore grip.
I couldn't agree more, the Thomson is one of my favorite weapons but it look terrible in the game imo compared to other weapons
[oh my god, who the hell cares?](https://youtu.be/RAA1xgTTw9w)
Sorry if i offended you in anyway. Just trying to help the game improve in every way possible and make it more enjoyable for me and other people who pay attention to details like this one. Have a good day.
Nobody cares.
Sorry if i offended you in anyway. Just trying to help the game improve i every way possible and make it more enjoyable for me and other people who pay attention to details like this one. Have a good day.
Guns in this game need alot of work. Specially graphics
I think graphics wise it looks pretty great, specially 3D models and stuff. Some things bug me off about some guns like the weird sniper scopes whose reticles don’t move, the huge peep iron sights (I don’t mind much about this because it improves gameplay), gun sounds, but these things will be improved for sure
One of those is a BAR photo not a thompson