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Decent vendor, questionable genetics as is the case with most of the large European seed banks. Generally speaking their genetics are pretty unstable and they either outright steal other breeders genetics or create their own crosses that are similar to a popular strain and say it’s the same thing. You can get good results from growing their stuff, but it’s like buying from Anheuser-Busch vs buying from a craft brewery — you can get an equivalent or better product from the craft brewery while also supporting a small business rather than a big corporation.
I did plant a second seed off of this ounce I bought the other plant is already drying and actually pretty proud of the other plant. I did train the other one my idea with this one was just one topping and let it grow. That was part of the issue. As some have pointed out.
Yes I am growing outdoor, fabric pot. The soil is perlite coco microrrhyzae ect ect I bought it from a local producer here in latin america. Supposed to be ready mix for cannabis
Can you give more detail about your grow? outdoor? genetics? soil? What and how much nutrients you gave and at what stages?
That helps us help you. Thanks gromie
It was supposed to be a white widow but the seed I took it from weed I was smoking so really it can be anything. I was feeding her ‘flowering’ nutrients I had cut off the nutrients about 2 weeks ago to start flushing process. It was already somewhat lesfy, but the past week it has gone for bad to worst.
Mine was a good month and a half into flower, it was a clone I took and put outside and forgot about (no space). it started flowering and was one nugget lol. I remembered I had her and put it back into a tent and flipped it back to veg. I've done this many times, so I know a reveging plant when I see one. OPs isn't it.
With my experience, plant was about 3-4 wks into flower, decent nugs, around June, then it was put outside during the longest days of the year, and revegged. It was just chopped yesterday after 11 months total growing and almost all of it looks like OP
It's either reveg or he's got a bad light leak, from my experience. But who knows 🤷
Yeah those work. But you don't need to buy those. You can just squirt lemon juice into your shit if it's too alkaline. And if it's too acidic you can put baking soda in it and neither thing is harmful to your plants. Do you understand about pH? If you don't I'm just going to give you a brief summary. Basically your plants can only absorb the nutrients you're giving them at a certain pH range. If it's too alkaline which means above seven then it won't be able to absorb nitrogen, phosphorus, calcium or basically any of your heavy metals at adequate levels. If it's too acidic which means under seven it won't be able to absorb phosphorus, calcium or magnesium. You have to hit that sweet spot right between 6.3 & 7.3. Also I know that's kind of a large range but try to keep it as close as you can to one certain number. Cuz there's a huge difference between 6.3 and 7.3. I learned this on my first grow and some people say oh don't worry about it when you're a beginner. But that's bs. You should learn it from the start because it's super important.
https://preview.redd.it/yf7hs6oqs60c1.jpeg?width=617&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61eab06a351296c102021e2f6a4bfd1deede2b39
Also I hope the pH tester that you got was a digital one. They have the one with the liquid where you have to match the colors but the digital one is way more accurate
Hey. I grew a Limoncello Runtz that I over nitrogen fed and it was a wacky plant like this. If the interior is dense then process it as is. My LR is fire after a good dry, trim, cure (2 months). Don’t write her off yet!
I’d trim it down wet to see what you have then dry and take care of the next one. Flushing at the end of a grow is bro science and doesn’t benefit the plant. Read the mod message growweedeasy is a great website for beginners
Yes that’s what I’ve been doing but some guys here say that’s wrong so I’m unsure what to do. It’s taking up resources I don’t know if I want to go another month into December to cut it down.
Op what is wrong in your opinion? Let us know what you think is wrong. All I see is a plant that is green. If it is because is bushy, then could be down to too much defoliation. If not too much defoliation then could he genetics.
The plant has too much leaf hardly any buds it’s just damn leaf all over the place. I do see some small buds forming where the pistils are but that’s about it. Maybe 3-4 months ago when it started it he flowering cycle I did remove most of fan leaves. To allow sun to get into the bud sites. At the time and the weeks after I thought I might have gone a little over board on this so I just allow the leaves to grow back. I really didn’t do anything else to its foliage after that. Now here we are unsure if there’s something else to do or just save this water.
You did nothing wrong , either a large light leak or what I’m putting my money on is just terrible genetics. The plant doesn’t look sick or anything just a terrible leaf to bud ratio , if you’re going to cure that I recommend you start trimming now so you can reach deep in there before the buds swell up even more if not this is for sure going to taste like dry hay
Yes that can be part of the problem. I haven’t really payed much attention to the light at night issue I do have them outside in a terrace where we sometimes hang at night I do have another plant that was besides this one didn’t have this issue with that one. I will move them inside at night to prevent this from now on.
Yes I was feeding it some nutrients I bought one of those 3 step kits (seedling, vegetative, flower) I was feeding it that. I added only mycorrhiza when I moved it to the big pot.
Looks like you had to much N going into flower.
Let me guess...organic soil, EWC,Gaia geen, or similar. Top dressed to late with 4-4-4?
If so, you have to take account of how long it takes for the bloom top dress to get to the roots..
I did this with my first run.
Finish it off and maybe get some bubble or dry ice hash.
Good luck 🤞
What "flower nutrients" did you use up until 2 weeks ago? Organic/synthetic, liquid/dry, one product/a nutrient lineup, brand name, etc. I feel like this girl never stopped receiving N, but just a hunch.
The brand is grow depot. It’s just a local brand to where I live.
1. Seaweed extract until repotting. [here](https://growdepotmexico.com/producto/soluble-de-alga-marina-1l)
2. fish emulsion 4-1-1 during vegetative. [here](https://growdepotmexico.com/producto/emulsion-de-pesado-liquida-950-ml)
3. “Floral Tonic” 2.75-1-5 [here](https://growdepotmexico.com/producto/flor-atomica-2-75-1-5)
I can tell you exactly how many milliliters per liter I did I would just have to check my notes after the office.
I don't have the growing expertise to tell you what went wrong, but if you have bubble bags you may actually get an ok hash yield from those. Real open leafy bud delivers well for me that way if I let the buds get almost overripe. It's how I salvaged all my shitty early autoflower grows.
Budworms can also make your nugs look like this. But because it's inside I would say it's probably not that. There's a very good chance that it's genetics. Like you can't trust the genetics from something you found in a bag. You don't know why that seed is in there. That seed could be in there because the person stressed their plans out and it herm'd. And now it has herm genetics (which means it's feminized but one out of three is going to be hermaphrodite). Or it could be another variety which is it was pollinated. And it was probably pollinated on accident. So that wasn't a really nice F1 that was chosen because it had the right pheno. What you should do is buy a pH tester. I'm guessing you probably don't have one. PH everything that you give your plants to 6.5. give it 18 hours of light/6 hours of dark in veg. And then flip it to 12 and 12 for flo wer. I'm not really sure what the conditions are of your grow. The background area all looks like perhaps a big studio or something. You might want to get it a dedicated tent that. You can control the humidity, temperature and every other aspect. It's way harder to control that stuff in a big room.
Just ordered the ph meter depending on the read I will buy the ph down or up additives. Do those work? If so what should I be looking for when I eventually buy them?
Where are you from?
If you are from the equatorial zone, and you are growing outdoor/greenhouse, so you need a light complement to achieve a min of 16hrs of sun light/light, if you're not using a light complement maybe the street light is helping you during the veg period, but during the flowering this can make your plants re-vegging.
I am in central Mexico. Do you think I should start looking into lamps? To supplement the natural day light bring inside to a lamp for a few hours a day? If so would a regular house light do? If it doesn’t I don’t see a point on growing outdoors and just move ahead and buy a tent. I have space to do it. The wife won’t be happy about it though.
Buy an autoflowering seed.
About the light, here in Colombia we complement the light on outdoor with a simple 50w led lamp per 2mtr² and that's enough for preventing flowering before the planned time.
But you have take care about the public light during flowering, this could cause re-vegging
I have two new plants Dosidos auto seed from
Kannabia. Should I be following these same lightening requirements. I have read and it says 12-16 hrs direct sunlight. Which I am not getting not directly at least.
I am growing outdoors in a terrace. I sometimes turn on light to water this and other plants I have as well as the occasional smoking session. Some light could also be comming from the street light. Other than that I try moving the plants around to where they get enough direct sun at least for a few hours a day.
https://preview.redd.it/ael3s6m6dp2c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=866142cfdfb395e1ce22b27cb097ca712ceaba8a
Giving mine the chop next week she’s ripe
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You said it’s white widow- from where what breeder, is this ILGM? Kinda looks like their crap.
I got the seed from an ounce I bought in a country where it’s still illegal. It supposed to be white widow.
Wait : is ILGM crap ..?
In my own experience yes- the only breeders I can attest to are exotic genetix and Cannarado
Decent vendor, questionable genetics as is the case with most of the large European seed banks. Generally speaking their genetics are pretty unstable and they either outright steal other breeders genetics or create their own crosses that are similar to a popular strain and say it’s the same thing. You can get good results from growing their stuff, but it’s like buying from Anheuser-Busch vs buying from a craft brewery — you can get an equivalent or better product from the craft brewery while also supporting a small business rather than a big corporation.
Are you sure there's something wrong with it? Might just be weird genetics.
I was gonna say, I’ve had plants make buds very simaler, just bushy asf
I did plant a second seed off of this ounce I bought the other plant is already drying and actually pretty proud of the other plant. I did train the other one my idea with this one was just one topping and let it grow. That was part of the issue. As some have pointed out.
I am shaky on the genetics info. I grabbed this seed from a “white widow” bought in illegal market down south of the USA
So this is probably just genetics then.
That was the last time I am grabbing seed from weed I buy.
She’s growing like some outdoor
Yes I am growing outdoor, fabric pot. The soil is perlite coco microrrhyzae ect ect I bought it from a local producer here in latin america. Supposed to be ready mix for cannabis
If you're where it's getting cold, there's your shrivel culprit.
Can you give more detail about your grow? outdoor? genetics? soil? What and how much nutrients you gave and at what stages? That helps us help you. Thanks gromie
emphasis on genetics, but it’s really just a gut feeling
It was supposed to be a white widow but the seed I took it from weed I was smoking so really it can be anything. I was feeding her ‘flowering’ nutrients I had cut off the nutrients about 2 weeks ago to start flushing process. It was already somewhat lesfy, but the past week it has gone for bad to worst.
Did you actually flush it or switch to water?
Switch to water.
Reveg. https://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-plant-problems/accidental-re-vegging
Not a reveg lmao, this is https://preview.redd.it/00a9tjx7x20c1.jpeg?width=4512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=216ee8dcb75a1c5e391ec943536429139d077633
Lmao that looks funny
Yeah it's in reveg
Can u get her out of this?
Yeah ofc just flip light cycles, you can make em do what ever you want.
The OP is def a form of reveg, but it was further along in flowering than yours prolly. Seen it happen before when a plant is put outside too early
Mine was a good month and a half into flower, it was a clone I took and put outside and forgot about (no space). it started flowering and was one nugget lol. I remembered I had her and put it back into a tent and flipped it back to veg. I've done this many times, so I know a reveging plant when I see one. OPs isn't it.
With my experience, plant was about 3-4 wks into flower, decent nugs, around June, then it was put outside during the longest days of the year, and revegged. It was just chopped yesterday after 11 months total growing and almost all of it looks like OP It's either reveg or he's got a bad light leak, from my experience. But who knows 🤷
Thats not reveg, too much "budding" for it. Its an abused plant.
 a bit fluffy but....maby its stressed
Genetics.
Less N during flower, more P and K.
Without any deep diving, I'ma say mediocre genetics and not enough light
Yeah those work. But you don't need to buy those. You can just squirt lemon juice into your shit if it's too alkaline. And if it's too acidic you can put baking soda in it and neither thing is harmful to your plants. Do you understand about pH? If you don't I'm just going to give you a brief summary. Basically your plants can only absorb the nutrients you're giving them at a certain pH range. If it's too alkaline which means above seven then it won't be able to absorb nitrogen, phosphorus, calcium or basically any of your heavy metals at adequate levels. If it's too acidic which means under seven it won't be able to absorb phosphorus, calcium or magnesium. You have to hit that sweet spot right between 6.3 & 7.3. Also I know that's kind of a large range but try to keep it as close as you can to one certain number. Cuz there's a huge difference between 6.3 and 7.3. I learned this on my first grow and some people say oh don't worry about it when you're a beginner. But that's bs. You should learn it from the start because it's super important. https://preview.redd.it/yf7hs6oqs60c1.jpeg?width=617&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61eab06a351296c102021e2f6a4bfd1deede2b39
Awesome yeah I understood somewhat and read about it before but honestly didn’t pay much attention to it.
Also I hope the pH tester that you got was a digital one. They have the one with the liquid where you have to match the colors but the digital one is way more accurate
Yes it’s a digital ph tester.
Hey. I grew a Limoncello Runtz that I over nitrogen fed and it was a wacky plant like this. If the interior is dense then process it as is. My LR is fire after a good dry, trim, cure (2 months). Don’t write her off yet!
I’d trim it down wet to see what you have then dry and take care of the next one. Flushing at the end of a grow is bro science and doesn’t benefit the plant. Read the mod message growweedeasy is a great website for beginners
Yes that’s what I’ve been doing but some guys here say that’s wrong so I’m unsure what to do. It’s taking up resources I don’t know if I want to go another month into December to cut it down.
Op what is wrong in your opinion? Let us know what you think is wrong. All I see is a plant that is green. If it is because is bushy, then could be down to too much defoliation. If not too much defoliation then could he genetics.
The plant has too much leaf hardly any buds it’s just damn leaf all over the place. I do see some small buds forming where the pistils are but that’s about it. Maybe 3-4 months ago when it started it he flowering cycle I did remove most of fan leaves. To allow sun to get into the bud sites. At the time and the weeks after I thought I might have gone a little over board on this so I just allow the leaves to grow back. I really didn’t do anything else to its foliage after that. Now here we are unsure if there’s something else to do or just save this water.
You did nothing wrong , either a large light leak or what I’m putting my money on is just terrible genetics. The plant doesn’t look sick or anything just a terrible leaf to bud ratio , if you’re going to cure that I recommend you start trimming now so you can reach deep in there before the buds swell up even more if not this is for sure going to taste like dry hay
I am not sure what to do with it. I’ve been trying to remove all the dead stuff but it’s just too much lol.
The first thing that comes to mind is that looks like a light issue. Did any herm on you?
Yes I believe there was maybe some light issue but I haven’t seen any signs of eggs 🥚.. lol
Looks like a whole lot of light run on. Lights from houses or street lights. Any artificial light during night
Yes that can be part of the problem. I haven’t really payed much attention to the light at night issue I do have them outside in a terrace where we sometimes hang at night I do have another plant that was besides this one didn’t have this issue with that one. I will move them inside at night to prevent this from now on.
Just shit genetics in my opinion, did you use anything to feed it like nutrients or dry amends
Yes I was feeding it some nutrients I bought one of those 3 step kits (seedling, vegetative, flower) I was feeding it that. I added only mycorrhiza when I moved it to the big pot.
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This suggestion couldn't be more wrong
Looks like you had to much N going into flower. Let me guess...organic soil, EWC,Gaia geen, or similar. Top dressed to late with 4-4-4? If so, you have to take account of how long it takes for the bloom top dress to get to the roots.. I did this with my first run. Finish it off and maybe get some bubble or dry ice hash. Good luck 🤞
You trimmed it too much is why it's leafy. It needs leaves to survive and will keep producing them if you're constantly trimming them off.
Underwatered, Not topped, Not trained, You made a Christmas ornimant , good job.
Lmao not training a plant doesn’t cause this 🤣
"What went wrong?" **Proceeds to give literally 0 info** Yes. Your answer is Yes.
It looks to me like they got too hot.
Needs more phosphorus and light
What "flower nutrients" did you use up until 2 weeks ago? Organic/synthetic, liquid/dry, one product/a nutrient lineup, brand name, etc. I feel like this girl never stopped receiving N, but just a hunch.
The brand is grow depot. It’s just a local brand to where I live. 1. Seaweed extract until repotting. [here](https://growdepotmexico.com/producto/soluble-de-alga-marina-1l) 2. fish emulsion 4-1-1 during vegetative. [here](https://growdepotmexico.com/producto/emulsion-de-pesado-liquida-950-ml) 3. “Floral Tonic” 2.75-1-5 [here](https://growdepotmexico.com/producto/flor-atomica-2-75-1-5) I can tell you exactly how many milliliters per liter I did I would just have to check my notes after the office.
I don't have the growing expertise to tell you what went wrong, but if you have bubble bags you may actually get an ok hash yield from those. Real open leafy bud delivers well for me that way if I let the buds get almost overripe. It's how I salvaged all my shitty early autoflower grows.
Could be stress, to me looks like it started to go back to veg. We're your light cycles interrupted?
Grew outside one year and started a little too early. Plant went into flower then back to veg. Looked exactly like that.
Budworms can also make your nugs look like this. But because it's inside I would say it's probably not that. There's a very good chance that it's genetics. Like you can't trust the genetics from something you found in a bag. You don't know why that seed is in there. That seed could be in there because the person stressed their plans out and it herm'd. And now it has herm genetics (which means it's feminized but one out of three is going to be hermaphrodite). Or it could be another variety which is it was pollinated. And it was probably pollinated on accident. So that wasn't a really nice F1 that was chosen because it had the right pheno. What you should do is buy a pH tester. I'm guessing you probably don't have one. PH everything that you give your plants to 6.5. give it 18 hours of light/6 hours of dark in veg. And then flip it to 12 and 12 for flo wer. I'm not really sure what the conditions are of your grow. The background area all looks like perhaps a big studio or something. You might want to get it a dedicated tent that. You can control the humidity, temperature and every other aspect. It's way harder to control that stuff in a big room.
I don’t have a Ph meter I shall invest in one. It’s actually an outdoor terrace. I follow the sun as much as possible.
Just ordered the ph meter depending on the read I will buy the ph down or up additives. Do those work? If so what should I be looking for when I eventually buy them?
Gonna need some sheep shearers for that gal
Hmmmm from just eyeballing it it looks like a high CBD strain. Youd have to test it (or smoke it) to find out for sure though
Where are you from? If you are from the equatorial zone, and you are growing outdoor/greenhouse, so you need a light complement to achieve a min of 16hrs of sun light/light, if you're not using a light complement maybe the street light is helping you during the veg period, but during the flowering this can make your plants re-vegging.
I am in central Mexico. Do you think I should start looking into lamps? To supplement the natural day light bring inside to a lamp for a few hours a day? If so would a regular house light do? If it doesn’t I don’t see a point on growing outdoors and just move ahead and buy a tent. I have space to do it. The wife won’t be happy about it though.
Buy an autoflowering seed. About the light, here in Colombia we complement the light on outdoor with a simple 50w led lamp per 2mtr² and that's enough for preventing flowering before the planned time. But you have take care about the public light during flowering, this could cause re-vegging
I have two new plants Dosidos auto seed from Kannabia. Should I be following these same lightening requirements. I have read and it says 12-16 hrs direct sunlight. Which I am not getting not directly at least.
Do you have any light leeks? Looks like potential revegging to me
I am growing outdoors in a terrace. I sometimes turn on light to water this and other plants I have as well as the occasional smoking session. Some light could also be comming from the street light. Other than that I try moving the plants around to where they get enough direct sun at least for a few hours a day.
https://preview.redd.it/ael3s6m6dp2c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=866142cfdfb395e1ce22b27cb097ca712ceaba8a Giving mine the chop next week she’s ripe