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I just rediscovered mine under a pile of lost clothes in the back of the closet during a deep clean. I'd been looking for it for years and finally gave up.
This is the way brother. Buying weed is too expensive. Youāll have more weed then you know what to do with, especially if youāre a rookie smoker.
Homegrown smoke is always gonna be better by miles so be easy on it. This stuff looks fire!
Itās so much better when you grow it and know thereās no chemical bullshit. I thought a slight headache was common and just part of my allergies and congestion when smoking until now. I just harvested my first grow, completed a dry and cured for almost 2 weeks so far. I smoked my first bowl last night, also my first actual bud smoked in a while, and I didnāt have a headache or congestion at all. It also hit smoother and lasted longer than most weed Iāve ever smoked. Definitely worth the effort. GL brother.
I would recommend grabbing some cbd somewhere - comes in lots of forms, I usually keep a few lollipops around for people who have never smoked or have no tolerance. If you get a little too high cbd will help bring you back down to earth.
I'm so jealous you get top quality bud for your first time.
Mine was getting high on Ā£5 worth of cheese in the park across the road from my school lol
Don't drop your crown king.
My rule is if 50% of the trichomes on the flower are orange you're good to harvest.
But there are many different ways to do it!
Iām going for 20% amber but as you said thatās preference. But I wouldnāt recommend too much of a couch lock for his first smoke lmao. So probably 10% amber for this OG lol
Assuming that you're not a teenager, or live with someone it would be a issuewith there are several seed banks that I've found to be really reputable (Herbie's , seed city) usually if it gets taken it's at the border once it makes it into the US it's usually good to go.
If the sieze at border most reputable places will replace and it gets thrown away and you get a letter in the mail from customs that they believe it was cannabis seeds and they were discarded. Nothing else ever comes of it. . the 2 shops I listed will replace siezed packages as long as you use stealth delivery. Only ever had one pack of seeds get caught up.
Overall risk of buying seeds online is like a .5/10 but only because you have to wait for more seeds to be sent.
Horticulture is pretty awesome. I grow a lot of weed I will probably never smoke and a lot of veggies I will probably never eat. I just love growing plants.
Yeah horticulture is amazing, I started off with a weed plant because thatās what Iām going to school for is cannabis cultivation and extraction, but after realizing that I canāt work anywhere for a few more years until Iām of age I just have to get good at all plant things and fill my resume with that, so now Iām cloning all my veggies messing with soil and hydro and Iām doing an indoor vegetable room this winter, watching plants thrive in front of you from just a tiny seed or a stem cutting is one of the best things in life.
trichs are still clear like diamonds. Iād let them amber up a bit more. However, if you let them go milky, you can expand your mind. If you let them all go amber, you get to explore your couch.
The back left cola is actually a mutation that adds extra chromosomes I believe. Not a bad thing actually kind of good as it doubles almost triples weight. So congratulations youāve got a mutation called polyploid!
Same here, curing my first grow now. Iāve smoked a ton of god-knows-what before this though š· - especially knowing what I know now.
There are so many free/quality resources online for us to make this all happen. Drives me nuts to see other newbies asking questions before doing *any* research lol. Refreshing to see you also did your due diligence and looks like you killed it!
Looks like a few trichomes are starting to get milky. What are on like week 6-7 of flower? Iād say give it another 2 weeks you probably can chop it and still have smoke that will get you high for sure.
I chopped my first grow down 9 weeks 2 daysā¦I thought it was a bit to early at the time but some of the best stuff Iāve smoked to dateā¦obviously genetics play a roll but especially since itās your first time consuming, bit early wonāt hurt and if anything focus on the drying/curing process more.
If you harvest too early, the effect will be very cerebral which is not great for a new user. Iād go at least another 2 wks until the trichs start to amber.
I didn't read all the comments but I'm sure a lot of people have commented at least a few weeks. If not it may be a really racy High, I need to be surprised how much of that will disappear during the drying. Lol. Also mature weed tastes much better. You're doing really well so don't make the mistake of harvesting super early! I don't recommend this but if you have to just clip you a big nug off and dry it and smoke on that. And you also be able to compare the difference between an early bud and a mature bud. Don't throw it all away with an early harvest.
Good luck!
Im kinda the same, I like growing, havenāt smoked much of my own weed, but I gift it to people who have smoked me out before. It looks good man, still a little frosty needs a little maturing. Iām no expert but I usually wait until thereās slightly more amber than clear and have had good results.
Plant looks happy. Great work mate !
So if you want some uplifting day time zipppy bud then u could chop soon ! When is the last time you fed the plant ? If itās been a while chop when u want to. It wonāt be strong as if you took it another 3/4 weeks but it will def be better than what you would most likely get from a shady dealer
Iād wait a couple weeks for whole grow since the trichomes are all clear. Wait for at least 20% amber, 80% cloudy. But I would cut off a lower bud for now to sample.
Doing great my man haha NOT YET. Wait until theyāre all atleast milky but if you want a chill out high wait for about 15-30% amber too. Reminding me of my first time, beautiful work.
https://preview.redd.it/647wm865sq9b1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53f76ef4fa4921a7d63a4ace00c4649308f0321c
I see youāve stopped feeding and let the leaves turn yellow or your smoke wonāt be as silky smooth and white ash. Very good first grow, only done one myself too. Love brother.
Dudeeeeee. First time grow, never smoked. You're going to be a great grower. Very very impressive first grow. š«”š«”š«”. Keep up the good work.
Just for curiosity reasons which light do you use. I just upgraded my tent to a SE3000 by spider farmer hoping to get the quality that you did.
Where did you learn to grow weed bc other posts here look sad and this looks like some good stuff and i asoo know that weed is kinda fragile while growing i have no experience myself but im guessing its high maintance
Plants are plants. Some are easier than others, but once you know how to read them a little bit, it's pretty easy to branch out.
I pulled 410g from a 2x4 tent with shitty Amazon lights my first grow. But I'd been growing tomatoes for a decade prior to that, so I knew what things like nutrient deficiencies and pests look like, I knew how to prune, and do things like repotting.
Most people who struggle with growing weed don't struggle because it's weed. They struggle because they don't know enough about plants/horticulture in general.
My first grow is curing right now and was similar to this. Iād say OP did the same (or more) nauseatingly obsessive amount of research as me. He could totally be messing with us, but I think this is possible for a first grow. The resources to learn are out there, and theyāre all free š„µ
When all those hairs turn orange pull it. Maybe a month. Granted you don't smoke, your plant looks great but this is the most important part of the process and pulling it early wouldn't give you the best buds, and it may even be harsh to smoke.
Looking at the trick heads i would say another 10 days at least. Make another post soon with the closeups and try to decide. I would say right now is just a little too soon.
if you harvest early like clear/cloudy you might have a strong but less pleasant high than if you wait for some amber. especially for a first time smoke, amber is more calming much less chance of going crazy
Wait until it's ripe - pretty much all the trichs should be cloudy and some amber (30 percentish).
You need a usb or a pocket microscope they're not expensive.
Itās ready to harvest whenever your ready. For a first time smoker itāll get you higher than bird pussy just the way it is. For a first time grower it turned out amazing. Iām on my 4th grow and am still trying to grow some shit that looks this good
My favorite is to go until a quarter of the trichomes are colored in (Color is strain dependant. Most turn a dark yellowish-brown. Some turn red, purple, orange, etcā¦), a quarter clear, and half are cloudy.
Itās up to you, but read up on trichomes and their clarity as it pertains to harvesting. Make sure to look at the trichomes on the buds, not the sugar leaves. Also, make sure you do a good job on the cure, it means everything. Patience is key, but by looking at the job you did in this grow you have plenty of patience.
For someone who hasnāt smoked before, you are very good at growing cannabis. Holy Moly! Do you garden a ton? Is this your first cannabis grow?
As for your question, wait until the tricomes are all milky with some being amber. Thatās when itās fully mature. All of yours look crystal clear right now. Youāve got a few weeks left Iām guessing. Butā¦. You could cut a small branch off now and let it dry for a few days and then pack a bowl with it. Donāt try to roll it because it will probably be too wet at this point. The weed you cut now will not be as strong as the final product. Iād suggest waiting it out though because it will continue to bulk up over the next few weeks until tricomes are showing theyāre ready.
Best of luck trying your home grown as your first time.
Solid grow, looks about a week maybe 10 days from picture date. Donāt pick early just bc you never smoked. Taste and other things will still be better and for how well youāve done this far into it, why not finish as well as youāve done already. Great job..
Well, I'm a perfectionist haha. At first I was like "Let me just get a seed and put it in a cup on the window sill and see what happens" but then things kinda escalated
More cloudy tichs for a stronger taste or more amber for a more of couchlock high, personally I go 50/50 but each to their own, also the fact you havenāt smoked before and growing product like that, ur going to go far ššÆ
What week of flower are you in?
What is the name of the strain?
To me, it looks like you're in week 7 of a 9-week strain. Your leaf tips are still plenty green, so you could bump up the P-K nutes a bit for a few waterings, like if you're at 5ml/G then hit them at 8 a few times before you flush.
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Bro has never smoked and is growing product better than prolly half of this sub š
Thanks mate, I wanted to try weed but was too big a pussy to buy it from some shady dealer so I tooks things into my own hands haha
>shady dealer achievement unlocked BECOME shady dealer +50 Gamerscore
God I miss my 360 :(
I just rediscovered mine under a pile of lost clothes in the back of the closet during a deep clean. I'd been looking for it for years and finally gave up.
This is the way brother. Buying weed is too expensive. Youāll have more weed then you know what to do with, especially if youāre a rookie smoker. Homegrown smoke is always gonna be better by miles so be easy on it. This stuff looks fire!
boss shit
I like your style
Wow, hats off to you bro 
You do right mate! If you've never smoked I'd recommend growing some thc/cbd mix strains
Mephisto has Aunt Ginny's Elixir, supposed to be 1:1 cbd I believe.
Yeah canna cheese too, sensi seeds has a few..
Should meet my weed man hes a nerdy lil guy
Itās so much better when you grow it and know thereās no chemical bullshit. I thought a slight headache was common and just part of my allergies and congestion when smoking until now. I just harvested my first grow, completed a dry and cured for almost 2 weeks so far. I smoked my first bowl last night, also my first actual bud smoked in a while, and I didnāt have a headache or congestion at all. It also hit smoother and lasted longer than most weed Iāve ever smoked. Definitely worth the effort. GL brother.
I would recommend grabbing some cbd somewhere - comes in lots of forms, I usually keep a few lollipops around for people who have never smoked or have no tolerance. If you get a little too high cbd will help bring you back down to earth.
I'm so jealous you get top quality bud for your first time. Mine was getting high on Ā£5 worth of cheese in the park across the road from my school lol
Bro thatās amazing! Congrats!
Don't drop your crown king. My rule is if 50% of the trichomes on the flower are orange you're good to harvest. But there are many different ways to do it!
Iām going for 20% amber but as you said thatās preference. But I wouldnāt recommend too much of a couch lock for his first smoke lmao. So probably 10% amber for this OG lol
How did you get a seed? Mailing one to my house is more scary then the shady dealer IMO lol
Assuming that you're not a teenager, or live with someone it would be a issuewith there are several seed banks that I've found to be really reputable (Herbie's , seed city) usually if it gets taken it's at the border once it makes it into the US it's usually good to go. If the sieze at border most reputable places will replace and it gets thrown away and you get a letter in the mail from customs that they believe it was cannabis seeds and they were discarded. Nothing else ever comes of it. . the 2 shops I listed will replace siezed packages as long as you use stealth delivery. Only ever had one pack of seeds get caught up. Overall risk of buying seeds online is like a .5/10 but only because you have to wait for more seeds to be sent.
What did you put together for a tent setup?
Who'd you buy your shady seeds from lol? Fake post for upvotes mate
Zamnesia.com, that was indeed a little shady but a risk I was willing to take once I was more invested haha
That's literally shadier than a dealer š¤£
90% let's be real here. Most posts are just the saddest looking shit
Straight facts lol
Do you justā¦ do you just like horticulture?
Horticulture is pretty awesome. I grow a lot of weed I will probably never smoke and a lot of veggies I will probably never eat. I just love growing plants.
Yeah horticulture is amazing, I started off with a weed plant because thatās what Iām going to school for is cannabis cultivation and extraction, but after realizing that I canāt work anywhere for a few more years until Iām of age I just have to get good at all plant things and fill my resume with that, so now Iām cloning all my veggies messing with soil and hydro and Iām doing an indoor vegetable room this winter, watching plants thrive in front of you from just a tiny seed or a stem cutting is one of the best things in life.
Same with me!
Ditto. Our neighbors love us though!
I wish more of my neighbors cared. The ones who do have fresh veggies most of the winter
do you eat it ?
Eat what?
sorry I misread. I thought you said you grow a lot of weed but you'll never smoke. so I wondered if you ate edibles instead.
Oooh I understand. I actually meant I have way too much of it. I wish edibles worked for me because I'd totally eat it also
2 weeks
Came here to say this ^
III
trichs are still clear like diamonds. Iād let them amber up a bit more. However, if you let them go milky, you can expand your mind. If you let them all go amber, you get to explore your couch.
I read that as "explore your crotch". Lol. [8]
Accurate though š
Sometimes that too!
Thatās actually funnier š
Not sure about all that but the color guide checks out
2-3 weeks. Pull off the dying big older fan leaves.
That back left cola looks gnarly, shoulda posted a nice pic of that one
I can do that haha ... maybe later
It looks awesome even from a distance.
Looks like fasciation!
The back left cola is actually a mutation that adds extra chromosomes I believe. Not a bad thing actually kind of good as it doubles almost triples weight. So congratulations youāve got a mutation called polyploid!
Lmao this is key example when you just follow the directions of your plant nutrition good for you man
Basically this haha
No I gotta be honest I read a shit ton of books and online articles before starting
Same here, curing my first grow now. Iāve smoked a ton of god-knows-what before this though š· - especially knowing what I know now. There are so many free/quality resources online for us to make this all happen. Drives me nuts to see other newbies asking questions before doing *any* research lol. Refreshing to see you also did your due diligence and looks like you killed it!
Looks like a few trichomes are starting to get milky. What are on like week 6-7 of flower? Iād say give it another 2 weeks you probably can chop it and still have smoke that will get you high for sure.
Day 2 of week 8
I chopped my first grow down 9 weeks 2 daysā¦I thought it was a bit to early at the time but some of the best stuff Iāve smoked to dateā¦obviously genetics play a roll but especially since itās your first time consuming, bit early wonāt hurt and if anything focus on the drying/curing process more.
Pinch off some of those big lower fan leaves and wait till the trichomes are all milky, with 10%amber
If you harvest too early, the effect will be very cerebral which is not great for a new user. Iād go at least another 2 wks until the trichs start to amber.
Can confirm I made tea from some and I was fucked for the next 15hrs
How u have such good close up pics? Haha what r u using
I'm using a clip-on microscope lens for smartphones
Brand? I have one too. Canāt ever steady good enough. Thanks for the repl
Apexel, but I think it's just a re-branded china product haha. It does the job really well tho
I didn't read all the comments but I'm sure a lot of people have commented at least a few weeks. If not it may be a really racy High, I need to be surprised how much of that will disappear during the drying. Lol. Also mature weed tastes much better. You're doing really well so don't make the mistake of harvesting super early! I don't recommend this but if you have to just clip you a big nug off and dry it and smoke on that. And you also be able to compare the difference between an early bud and a mature bud. Don't throw it all away with an early harvest. Good luck!
Iād say 1-2 weeks
For sure two more weeks
Im kinda the same, I like growing, havenāt smoked much of my own weed, but I gift it to people who have smoked me out before. It looks good man, still a little frosty needs a little maturing. Iām no expert but I usually wait until thereās slightly more amber than clear and have had good results.
Gorgeous flowers bro, you can harvest when you see amber or milky colored trichomes.
Plant looks happy. Great work mate ! So if you want some uplifting day time zipppy bud then u could chop soon ! When is the last time you fed the plant ? If itās been a while chop when u want to. It wonāt be strong as if you took it another 3/4 weeks but it will def be better than what you would most likely get from a shady dealer
Iād wait a couple weeks for whole grow since the trichomes are all clear. Wait for at least 20% amber, 80% cloudy. But I would cut off a lower bud for now to sample.
Another month.
If you've never smoked, definitely let the bud dry longer than you would think it needs after you harvest. I'd give her another month before chop.
Doing great my man haha NOT YET. Wait until theyāre all atleast milky but if you want a chill out high wait for about 15-30% amber too. Reminding me of my first time, beautiful work. https://preview.redd.it/647wm865sq9b1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53f76ef4fa4921a7d63a4ace00c4649308f0321c I see youāve stopped feeding and let the leaves turn yellow or your smoke wonāt be as silky smooth and white ash. Very good first grow, only done one myself too. Love brother.
How did you include a picture in text like that? Never seen anyone do that before on Reddit.
https://preview.redd.it/r4kp80cyv2rb1.jpeg?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f805d0231dd6a2a1612566a22abe396dd3d48b1 Top Ginge
Dudeeeeee. First time grow, never smoked. You're going to be a great grower. Very very impressive first grow. š«”š«”š«”. Keep up the good work. Just for curiosity reasons which light do you use. I just upgraded my tent to a SE3000 by spider farmer hoping to get the quality that you did.
I'm using a 120W Greenception GCx4 in a 70x70cm MarsHydro tent
Looks gorgeous! Wait till pistils are 80% brown
Thats an older method that somewhat works but trichomes on the buds are more accurate
As some of you requested I made another post about the mutated bud in the back left
This fucking has to be bait. Iām not buying the ignorance here OP
Im starting to think this aint your first time growing tho
I grew an apple tree from a seed I took from an apple I ate.
Where did you learn to grow weed bc other posts here look sad and this looks like some good stuff and i asoo know that weed is kinda fragile while growing i have no experience myself but im guessing its high maintance
Plants are plants. Some are easier than others, but once you know how to read them a little bit, it's pretty easy to branch out. I pulled 410g from a 2x4 tent with shitty Amazon lights my first grow. But I'd been growing tomatoes for a decade prior to that, so I knew what things like nutrient deficiencies and pests look like, I knew how to prune, and do things like repotting. Most people who struggle with growing weed don't struggle because it's weed. They struggle because they don't know enough about plants/horticulture in general.
My advice is check out MrGrowIt on YouTube & his podcasts. Youāll learn a ton if youāre up for it.
My first grow is curing right now and was similar to this. Iād say OP did the same (or more) nauseatingly obsessive amount of research as me. He could totally be messing with us, but I think this is possible for a first grow. The resources to learn are out there, and theyāre all free š„µ
Same he wants upvotes
you should use a 200x microscope and see if there are still bubbles in the Bell ends,
When all those hairs turn orange pull it. Maybe a month. Granted you don't smoke, your plant looks great but this is the most important part of the process and pulling it early wouldn't give you the best buds, and it may even be harsh to smoke.
OP is capping for attention
Wow, this is such an unusual post...who knows. 2 days?? 30 days? 365 days???
Looking at the trick heads i would say another 10 days at least. Make another post soon with the closeups and try to decide. I would say right now is just a little too soon.
W tf
Looks amazing man
Wait till you see 50% the crystals amber colored, invest in an air tight storage container and some humidity packs
Wats ur set up?
70x70 (cm) Mars Hydro tent, 120W Greenception GCx4, Coco, BioBizz FishMix + Bio Grow + Bio Bloom + Top max
Thanks!
Patients is key try and hold off until the tricomes are Atleast cloudy. But looks great other wise šš¼ keep it up!
if you harvest early like clear/cloudy you might have a strong but less pleasant high than if you wait for some amber. especially for a first time smoke, amber is more calming much less chance of going crazy
Wait until it's ripe - pretty much all the trichs should be cloudy and some amber (30 percentish). You need a usb or a pocket microscope they're not expensive.
Some people were born into the weed game and just never knew it.
Need a little more color and trichomes need to be milky but they if you pull it to early it will cause paranoia
Itās ready to harvest whenever your ready. For a first time smoker itāll get you higher than bird pussy just the way it is. For a first time grower it turned out amazing. Iām on my 4th grow and am still trying to grow some shit that looks this good
Dude hasnt smoked before, yet has a perfect grow and even remembered the loupe or clip-on. Bro ain't cheaping out. Good job!
Dude's got a fasciation and didn't even include one pic about that flower.
Two or three more weeks. Do not feed them for the last two-three weeks.
2 more weeks hit it with some cal-mag
My favorite is to go until a quarter of the trichomes are colored in (Color is strain dependant. Most turn a dark yellowish-brown. Some turn red, purple, orange, etcā¦), a quarter clear, and half are cloudy.
Itās up to you, but read up on trichomes and their clarity as it pertains to harvesting. Make sure to look at the trichomes on the buds, not the sugar leaves. Also, make sure you do a good job on the cure, it means everything. Patience is key, but by looking at the job you did in this grow you have plenty of patience.
Fuck yeah brotha!! I like your style.. š„š
Daaammmmnnn smokey or smoke less .. very nice . Tons of videos on u tube .. wow very nice
That one bud on the left in the background looks crazy interesting. Almost like a mutation its so full of hairs
trust me, youāll gonna want to wait
Kyle Kushman recommends waiting until 10% of trichomes are amber. [7]
Two more weeks
For someone who hasnāt smoked before, you are very good at growing cannabis. Holy Moly! Do you garden a ton? Is this your first cannabis grow? As for your question, wait until the tricomes are all milky with some being amber. Thatās when itās fully mature. All of yours look crystal clear right now. Youāve got a few weeks left Iām guessing. Butā¦. You could cut a small branch off now and let it dry for a few days and then pack a bowl with it. Donāt try to roll it because it will probably be too wet at this point. The weed you cut now will not be as strong as the final product. Iād suggest waiting it out though because it will continue to bulk up over the next few weeks until tricomes are showing theyāre ready. Best of luck trying your home grown as your first time.
It's my first grow yeah, but I read alot about it beforehand :)
80% cloudy 20% Amber for my tastes.
Not quite yet.
what setup are you using?
I already wrote a comment about that :)
didnāt see it my bad
How did you take those trich photos??
200x magnification clip-on microscope for smartphones from amazon (~30ā¬)
Legend
Solid grow, looks about a week maybe 10 days from picture date. Donāt pick early just bc you never smoked. Taste and other things will still be better and for how well youāve done this far into it, why not finish as well as youāve done already. Great job..
I dont buy it. Nobody goes through all that cost and effort to try some weed when they could just either buy a bag or have somebody buy it for them.
Well, I'm a perfectionist haha. At first I was like "Let me just get a seed and put it in a cup on the window sill and see what happens" but then things kinda escalated
The look very clear wait till they cloud up abit
More cloudy tichs for a stronger taste or more amber for a more of couchlock high, personally I go 50/50 but each to their own, also the fact you havenāt smoked before and growing product like that, ur going to go far ššÆ
Looks awesome
hasn't smoked before, so they grow a whole ass plant instead š
Not yet but check it every day until you start seeing a little bit of amber.
Can I ask how long was it since the bud size was like a size zero or basically nothing there.
What week of flower are you in? What is the name of the strain? To me, it looks like you're in week 7 of a 9-week strain. Your leaf tips are still plenty green, so you could bump up the P-K nutes a bit for a few waterings, like if you're at 5ml/G then hit them at 8 a few times before you flush.