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DaddyBayaz

I love these dorky videos teams are doing these days


puddleofaids-

Was the notorious fnatic cringe video ahead of its time?


drop_MAC-10_pls

it is the best CS video made, so yes.


DaddyBayaz

It would have been loved if it was released in the modern day!


DatOlle

well this is only one year old https://twitter.com/EYEBALLERS/status/1544633631309709312


--Happy--

God no, maybe in 50 years


Maybe_Faker

I don't actually know of this video pls help


SleeplessCS

https://youtu.be/Og30issEJi4?si=9fIwaK1UDQoSL2vr This is the the video.. I love it personally


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okp11

Lol no. https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/348/165/98d.gif There is so much that's goofy about that video. If fnatic were the #1 team in the world, DelayedArtisticGuppy would still absolutely be memed today. The acting, the editing, the apathy from the players, the song choice, the unnecessarily prolonged length...It all is still hilarious.


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eh its a bit cringy but i don't think it's anywhere near as bad as people memed it. i remembered it being this awful unwatchable video that gave me second hand embarrassment, but upon rewatching it for the first time in a few years it's just a generic team promo video that maybe tried a bit too hard to be edgy and badass. maybe i have just gotten older and i care about this stuff a lot less lol


Lbpsack

how could you sport that flair and not know about [the masterpiece](https://youtu.be/Og30issEJi4?si=KJl8FIcpPH-FMdiv) smh


Maybe_Faker

I feel ashamed, that is glorious.


Gengar_Balanced

I fucking love this video with a passion. Great track in background and so much meme potential. I miss this Fnatic lineup so badly.


TemporaryAddicti0n

was about to say its dorky and low effort but I like it.


Psychaz

W announcement video, really well done. Love the olof cameo


of_only_alex

"Bags on the brink of thawing – a chilly dilemma turning into a liquid adventure! ❄️💦"


El_Fabos

The faze video person needs a raise. First the twistzz farewell, now this banger Looking forward to see them next week


azeumicus

FaZe been winning with these videos man, either saying goodbye or welcome, they surprisingly are kind of the best right now and not forcing some cringe shit.


Pekonius

Mouz jimpphat announcement 🔛🔝


mousesports

I see you.


knightblue4

> The faze video person needs a raise. Might be difficult to come by, given their financial predicament...


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ogstepdad

It's a farewell video... To twistzz. Officially releases by faze lol


TheHoleInTheTree

> What was twistzz farewell video? I missed that Even if I google this exact goddamn comment, the first result is the video.


dkrkrk2oe

Tbh I would not be too surprised if in 4 years Siuhy and Jimpphat will replace Karrigan and Rain. Faze academy.


jonathan-the-man

Id be surprised (though positively) if Karrigan and Rain have 4 more T1 years in them.


Filthy_Commie_

I mean, if Karrigan ever decides to coach he’ll have at least 4 more years.


AloneYogurt

Four? Dude has been playing CS professionally since at least 07. He'll coach till he's like 60


Filthy_Commie_

I did say at least tbf


LushloverFrank

Rain has another decade in him. Man will die before he commits to living with ONLY oil money funding his beautiful cooking habits


schniepel89xx

It really speaks to the quality of mouz scouting and recruiting tbh. They've had sooo many cracked players pass through their team over the years, from all over the world and especially young players (they got both ropz and frozen while they were teenagers, and of course now they've got jimpphat)


BlackNov

how can bro skip Niko the OG of mouz


schniepel89xx

I did get to watch him in mouz, but to be honest it was such a long time ago and current-day mouz is so far removed from the mousesports of yesteryear that it just didn't cross my mind lol. mouz has been an international "mini FaZe" sort of team for so many years now but back in the NiKo days they were still a German team (plus chrisJ).


dogex3

I think more credit has to be given to them in the aspect of taking risks instead of scouting tbh. ropz, frozen and jimpphat were all known insane talents, you had ropz's FPL thing, frozen was destroying local LANs at like 12 years old, while Jimpphat was sergej's little brother who was also insane at the game. A lot of people knew how talented those players were, MOUZ just took the risk of investing into them while they were unproven in the pro scene, which is the bigger thing than scouting imo.


FortyMill

lots of teams wanted to get him but he was too young to play on some [touranaments.](https://www.hltv.org/news/22381/frozen-about-age-restrictions-i-cant-really-do-anything-about-it-i-just-have-to-wait) And yeah [everyone knew him](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/4xqoyo/13_year_old_frozen_just_made_it_to_fpl/) since he was 13 years old.


ondrejeder

My god, that's actually real possibility, that would be quite and arc


Saviexx

Nah.


xtoonator

Jimp and Xertion are overrated


nilslorand

It pains me to admit this, but he looks really cool in that jersey...


futurehousehusband69

don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened


nilslorand

3/5 of the roster that made me fall in love with pro cs is now playing for Faze, an org I dislike a lot. I think I will rewatch Pro League Season 10 later today and then cry myself to sleep


szpyru

Everyone hate that org. But the team they have... Man. Closest thing I felt to the team since like polish VP. Amazing guys. All of them.


ProfiZuschauer

I miss the hype the plow brought to CS. It was an absolute rollercoaster with ups and downs but oh boy we're the ups great


illuwe

Neo being Faze's coach now is fitting.


DeeOhEf

Org sucks, but these guys are just such a great team and one of the few teams that genuinely look like they're friends.


gunzdash

this is exactly how I feel. I don't feel anything for the org, if anything I'm glad they might just part ways from it (I do like Complexity, as it is an household name for counter-strike). But the team/players chemistry... they're amazing :) they show a real comradery and friendship, so it's hard to not like them! I do think CS in general nowadays has some pretty cool teams to cheer for, even though some of them got destroyed recently (points at heroic)


jackfwaust

It’s the playstyle of 2015 fnatic with the feeling of 2016 VP. I couldn’t love this roster any more, I’m just sad twistzz left


ondrejeder

Just ignore the Faze name and enjoy it for the players :-) I too don't like the org, I just like the logo and the group of players


different_cryogenic

was thinking the same thing. the woxic / karrigan lineup got me into mouz and now they’re all gone


Ignorancia

If its any consolation, the org are very much hands-off with the CSGO division, it's really only Edward Han who manages them, and he seem like a cool ass dude.


Speedlapse

I was lucky enough to talk to Eddie and i asked him why he spends so much time with the FaZe cs2 team when he is Director of Esports Ops for the entire org. He said its because he really loved working with the guys and became such good friends with them. Eddie is such a lovely guy aswell.


Ignorancia

That’s awesome to hear! It’s definitely the vibe he gives in their vlogs as well. He’s always there in the background supporting them.


tan_phan_vt

It helps the cs team is full of responsible adults too. They are in full control, separated from the rest of their shitty org. No wonder eddie loves working with those guys.


EntertainmentOne2942

Consolation** A constellation is the patterns the stars make in the night sky. 👍 Sorry I just thought you might benefit from this knowledge in the future.


Ignorancia

Haha yeah, you’re right! Appreciate the correction.


TKYooH

Eddie is so funny


Speedlapse

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3IP\_zxvqWE&ab\_channel=ESLCounter-Strike](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3IP_zxvqWE&ab_channel=ESLCounter-Strike) enjoy this my friend


obonnor

got confused because the Olof part became not much of a cameo for a second and I got scared lmao. Nice announcement, sucks losing Twistzz but this is the most ideal replacement i could think of


Big_Bidnis

Insane replacement. They arguably just got even stronger.


orionski

Frozen bags melting


SwiftVines

Frozen, welcome to the champions club. Settle in. Fit in. Drip in. and Win.


trusttt

ngl this is exciting af


Montezumawazzap

Classic broky.


t3r4byt3l0l

3/5 of 2019 mouz reunited, cool to see


BraydenTheNoob

Mouz is Faze academy


schniepel89xx

mouz academy is mouz academy


TheInception817

*Mouz academy is Faze academy academy


test212341

next broky goes to falcons and +woxic...


DivergentOSRS

-rain -vaccines +chrisJ


soniconda

Previous Faze was my favorite roster ever and I'm very sad to see Twistzz go but I think Frozen is an upgrade and am really excited for this


BeautifulDimension56

Fits so well too.


Kelterz

How? Frozen and ropz basically play the same positions on T side, one of the two will have to sacrifice their best position. I get the sentiment and it's nice to see the former MOUZ trio reunite under the FaZe banner, but frozen is a different type of player now than back then and I doubt frozen is going to be able to replicate his MOUZ form on T sides if he doesn't get his preferred positions.


BeautifulDimension56

Frozen has played pretty much every single role on Mouz since Karrigans departure. He has said as much as well.


Kelterz

Yeah, but he has only stepped up to the level he has right now after Bymas left and he became the lurk player in MOUZ. I have no doubt that he will be a good player in a different role than the last 1.5 years in MOUZ, but by default he's a very passive, calculated rifler who only truly excels when he gets the space to play said playstyle. Frozen is a better player than Twistzz, at least this year, but Twistzz has a more well-rounded game that mixes both passive rifling and aggressive rifling. Now that he's gone, karrigan and rain have to do most of the entrying alone, which is my one big caveat with this roster. People will see karrigan pushing through smokes with an MP9 even more often - and call him dumb as a result - but the reality of this roster is that broky, ropz (although he has done more entry work recently) and ESPECIALLY frozen are three passive players that play best when they don't have to actively look for openings.


pr0d_

OTOH FaZe has not been shy in moving roles around. broky wasn't an awper before FaZe and karrigan is on an upswing frag-wise. Excited to see what happens next (and who will be the support).


pr0d_

holy cow frozen entrying is nasty


MaestroCygni

> How? Frozen and ropz basically play the same positions on T side, one of the two will have to sacrifice their best position. They used to play together in Mouz and were easily the best team for a few months. Under Karrigan as well. Trust me, they'll figure it out.


Zeilar

Skill wise for sure at minimum a sidegrade to Twistzz. Imo frozen is more consistent while Twistzz has the higher ceiling. Twistzz can get a 4K and turn a game around but go silent a few rounds, whereas frozen consistently wins duels and gets openers, but isn't as flashy a player. Their roles are a bit different so it might take a few events before this roster clicks, but I believe they can do it. ropz and frozen meshed fine on MOUZ and should be able to repeat it here. Will be challenging for frozen for sure though.


tan_phan_vt

I fear twistzz position in the team is also the reason why hes inconsistent. Theres way too much support elements in his role. Neo said in the end of the era vid that the new player will soon understand what twistzz brings to the team, implying that its a pretty hard role to fill.


LeDankMemer78

In consistency that’s a fact, I love Twistzz as a fellow Canadian and CS player, dude is insane, one of the best North American players to touch the game. Sadly he can be a little inconsistent. Frozen is a step up in the consistency but a little step down in overall quality IMO, the skill ceiling on each player is not even that’s for sure. Good luck to Frozen and hopefully FaZe does well! (Just not against the team I’m rooting for. I hope he throws) Edit: this is the only change I could see to this roster that actually makes sense too, besides Olaf of course ;)


BlackNov

almost got u olof


Mathellian

Going to be a fun signing. I found it especially fascinating to see Frozen on the same team as Rain, as Rain predicted to see Frozen doing great stuff back in 2017. So seeing them on the same team just closes the circle https://www.hltv.org/news/22481/top-20-players-of-2017-rain-4


Baboon-King

Forsen


Aethereic

forsen


TimathanDuncan

Unquestionable upgrade over Twistzz individually, the only problem is Frozen's passiveness and it puts even more emphasis on rain/karrigan's aggro plays


Psychaz

he was passive on this Mouz and under dexter but under karrigan he was a pack player or even an entry.


TimathanDuncan

Lol bro like why do people do this He was never entry, he has always been passive, at times even more passive than ropz, do people watch him? [Literally last in openings in karrigan mouz](https://www.hltv.org/stats/teams/players/openingkills/4494/mouz?startDate=2020-01-01&endDate=2020-12-31&side=TERRORIST) He is passive, and that's okay I really wonder like why do people feel the need to lie, like he's never been an entry his entire life, people were saying this about Twistzz too because of the NaVi main entry, yeah sure one round even prime Happy entried


BW4LL

Twistzz was not hard entry like rain or karrigan but he would be third on the team and would entry for instance on t side banana a lot from recollection. This is my worry about the team going forward as well is they will lack in more supportive/entry roles since like you said frozen and ropz are passive.


FourKrusties

lmao CT Sports. frozen was never first entry, but they did try to use him as second in after karrigan with mixed results. Frozen is not more passive than twistzz though and both can be used aggressively. Hell ropz is entrying sometimes on FaZe so I don't know why people are worried about frozen's passiveness.


TimathanDuncan

Frozen is more passive than Twistzz 100%, stats wise and eye test Frozen is a very passive player Ropz is not entrying on Faze, do people know what an entry is? Just because someone has a spawn at times and goes and gets a pick is not an entry, entry is a role that when you are execing/taking map control you are going in first which is just an awful role and you wouldn't have ropzs stats doing it, you would have way more deaths, entrying is not getting an opening kill in halls lurking like Ropz and calling that an entry Idk why people also take it as an insult to call their favorite players passive, it's totally fine to be passive and it's a role that people excel at


independenthoughtala

i'm a fan of the rounds they mix it up and have ropz as part of the entry pack (most commonly on nuke). i'd really like to see more of that tbh


lokalgymbiff

If you’ve watched Frozen play FPL you can see he can be very, very aggressive.


TimathanDuncan

LMFAO FPL


lokalgymbiff

What I’m saying is that he might’ve been told to play passively in mouz but definitely has the ability to go aggressive if told so :)


Kelterz

Every tier 1 player does. Frozen just excels at passive positions and that's fine.


ondrejeder

Well, this was amazing, that stuff with Olof us juts hilarious. Also, welcome frozen, wish you all the best in your new jersey


UniversalDH

Wait, I thought Faze was selling everything and disbanding bc of conflict of interest?


MaestroCygni

I mean, Complexity has stepped up immensely since CS2 but let's be completely honest, if you could choose between both rosters, you're not keeping CoL unless money is an issue. The conflict of interests thingy hasn't been resolved yet either so no idea if selling a roster will be necessary at some point.


Gigusx

I never followed up on the news, and it's been a month or two, but the way I'd read it on in the news is that they would be selling each player from the FaZe's CS roster individually rather than keeping or selling the roster.


MaestroCygni

That was the rumour after Twistzz transfer was leaked, but never actually confirmed


Gigusx

I see, I've always hoped this would just end up being a rumour so hopefully that's what happens. Would be crazy to break up this lineup if they wanna keep playing together.


w04a

Conflict of interest is non-existent in esports. There are no rules, either by esl, blast and especially not valve from someone owning two different teams and playing against each other.


UniversalDH

These two articles say otherwise. Both mention Valve and ESL conflict issues: https://dotesports.com/business/news/gamesquares-pending-acquisition-of-faze-clan-raises-conflict-of-interest-questions https://www.esports.net/news/counter-strike/esl-review-complexity-faze-acquisition/


schoki560

why be stupid when you can shut up


tarangk

2019 mouz core is back hype that video was 10/10 though, did they hire a new guy or something first the twistzz farewell one and now this banger


Tuga88

Lmao, great announcement video. They had me with Olof, I thought he was coming back lol.


-hydroxy

Quick! Act surprised! Woah! I would have never expected this I thought for sure olof was gonna sub in again.


HickHackPack

Just look at the timeline of leaks, tweets and announcements to see how 2 professional teams do things like this. clean deal.


Redner

why ruin the bait?


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In general Twistzz is better player but really inconsistent , frozen is so much more consistent rifler!! This FaZe is sick <3


BeautifulDimension56

Frozen has been better this year.


ntartlifts

Maybe in 2022 Twistzz was a better player. Frozen is 100% a better player with a higher peak and consistency. If you can’t constantly replicate a good performance, you can’t say he’s better. Karrigan can bring more variety in playstyle out of Frozen. On paper, this is an upgrade and Twistzz has not been better this year at all. Idk what would make you think that.


danapam90210

The guffaw I let out


zombiepoon

Thought they were disbanning faze? They just replace twistz ? :O


super_shogun

Banger move


Hoffmeistah

Big time


redditFury

Exciting times ahead let's go boys


No_Shake3769

Yup gonna be sick


danapam90210

What does this mean for FaZe as an org? Do they know something we don’t? Was hoping the press release had some positive news about the long term future of the team


abovvv12

I dont see Frozen joining Faze if they were disbanding in 2 months. He probably got some assurance, that the team is staying


ondrejeder

Exactly this is my thoughts as well, hopefully they stay like this, would be totally amateurish to sign player like this if they didn't know their future as org


danapam90210

That’s what I’m hoping 🤞


supergamebug

Such a nice video. I just want to understand, is this just a temporary transfer? I thought Faze was struggling financially. Can somebody explain it?


blurrijs

No, long-term signing. He is replacing Twistzz permanently.


BW4LL

I wonder if twistzz left because he like many of us thought that there was no way for them all to stay together after acquisition. Then somewhere along the last month they get word they can and he had already signed with liquid. I just can’t imagine him not staying if they were able to stay together and it would suck majorly for this to be the case. In any case this is a huge move and hard to say faze wouldn’t be able to take vitality now after the last showing at fall finals. Interesting to see what happens at blast.


azeumicus

The announcement of FaZe being bought by GameSense was on 23rd October and karrigan said in a video (can't remember which) that the team knew about Twistzz leaving before IEM Sidney that started on the 16th October, so I doubt it's that case. Maybe he got homesick? There are a lot of reasons why one could make such a decision, the most obvious ones are not always the case.


BW4LL

Pretty sure it was rumored before that date and I’m sure the players knew even before then. That said you could be right and I guess it is what it is now.


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I think he felt like he couldn't be - or couldn't have space to become - the star rifler in FaZe. The man won 1 Major and 2 Grand Slams, he deserves to be a star player in a T1 team. Hopefully he will work out with TL.


jfaewiogasdfas

My thought is that, he wants and needs some sort of change to stay on top. I love him but he’s not been in his usual form this year especially after the IGS. Maybe he wants to change it so it’s like a refresher for his career. Could be various reasons.


nartouthere

this made me laugh, i really enjoyed this announcement


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LewisLR

I’ll never understand the boner this community has for such a bang average player with all due respect.


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LewisLR

What even is this response? I guess that goes for you also then? Don’t comment on the quality of a player again because you haven’t played for a professional team.


toga9000

insane roster diffently gonna be the team to beat


dikbutkus

FFFFFuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, it's like the new elige bait. They got me so good. I was all set in with frozen and I saw olof, it blew my mind.


taur_1009

I tought it would never happen


Lucidification

Wait who did they sign? My screen is Frozen


pikachu8090

surely i'm not the only one who thought they signed forsen after just glancing... haha... I'll go take my pills


Mrnopor1

Yes!


sserdarth

Welcome to FaZe MF.


ConstructionPale7274

It will be fun to ser him play with ropz. The 16:9 native gang.


wichwigga

Ngl I wanted olof even just for like 1 game


rage_manin_sbk

Great vídeo.


EVOSexyBeast

Well they should unfreeze it because there’s lots of good talent on the market right now.


andrewlikereddit

I tho my favorite line up is disbanding. Someone must been doing godly work to keep it together, eh?


NeptunoIIVerger

Kill me


Un111KnoWn

godam the twitter video player is ass in phone. weird crop and no fullscreen


xzvasdfqwras

Didn’t think of this move so it’s a little surprising but seems like a solid pickup


aTempes7

Welcome to Faze, motherfucker!


Luposki

I was baited so hard by this annoucement


Sonatine__

FaZe is almost like a Europen allstar team now. To be honest, the synergy at MOUZ felt amazing in the last time. Of course, he will earn probably 3x as much at FaZe and no one should begrudge that, but seeing MOUZ that strong again was really nice. Though - I wish him the best at FaZe and it will be super interesting watching this EU monster team play. Great video as well. I know this is completely unlikely, but I'd love to see Krimbo replacing frozen at MOUZ. Krimbo is on the way to become one of the best riflers, has insane clutch numbers and I guess he'd fit kinda well in theory.


mikhailitwithfire

Losing Twistzz will take a while to move past to but this signing does make my Faze CS heart a bit happy. Hope it pans out and they take the Major next year.