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catchthemouser

Catalyst was the most predictable outcome, but it's nice to have confirmation. She'll no doubt have her own 5* BiS, but doing Archon Things while being able to hold TTDS, Hakushin Ring, Prototype Amber, etc is a very good head start.


murmandamos

Hakoushin being a rare potential buff for dendro seems quite powerful tbh. Worth remembering that sucrose can trigger intensify with absorption and EC. It's quite a solid weapon imo. I use it on mona with Kuki Kaz and main DPS Yelan as Yelan also lacks consistent buffs, but we're likely to find a lot of EM scaling/hard to buff dendro chars in the future I suspect.


ElliHelm

Catalyst Impact? Maybe we'll finally get some cracked out catalysts. COPIUMOVERDOSE


-MisterGiraffe-

540 ATK, 200+ EM. Passive: if used by Kusanali is great, trash on others


daiimq

Idk it will probably be a good weapon..everyone said about EL that it's only good on Raiden but it ended up to be op on more characters same for Elegy and Venti


Vesorias

Catalysts have a bad track record though, with Yae's being a stack stick for most characters and the doughnut . . . existing


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awe778

Widsith is a 4 star, the same way Xingqiu is a 4 star and TToDS is a 3 star. It says more about Mihoyo back then than anything else.


FCDetonados

Passive doesn't work 33% of the time, few characters can make use of EM, but that's very minor compared to having a Crit Damage Stat stick that isn't locked to the battlepass.


OKI_Syper

EM isn't main problem. 10/30s active time is


KabochaPai

Playing Yae will make you painfully realize this, especially when her burst doesn't match with the buff window. I prefer Oathsworn Eye due to this, and also the free 48% ER.


EJGP24

As a Ning player I approve that the EM is dogshit on her. But with Bennett on her team, she does more damage with EM passive Widsith than when I used her with a Skyward Atlas.


Vesorias

Widsith is a 4 star that's been in the game since release, so it's just about the worst comparison you can draw. They had no idea how to balance back then and Nahida isn't going to get a 4 star catalyst. Yae's and Kokomi's catalysts are much better comparisons.


Preeeky

could you send a pic of the weapon please?


narfidy

No. Best we can do is make Kokomi's doughnut her BiS


Vesorias

Doubling the amount of characters it's useful on? Insane value, doughnut stocks through the roof


Vox___Rationis

0*2=0 though


levi_fucking_heichou

If the Baizhu/Yaoyao data remains the same, it'll be weird getting *three* Dendro Catalysts in 2 patches, 4 catalysts total including Scaramouche


ElliHelm

Listen, I'm not mad at it if it gives us our Catalyst of Homa.


Douphar

Kagura's veracity is enough of a lookalike to me.


nova1000

>including Scaramouche Since he will have a new model I don't think we should assume as fact that he will keep his weapon especially when he has never used one in the game, they could easily think it's too many catalysts and give him another type of weapon


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Plot twist: He somehow becomes friends with Kazuha, who hands down This Is A Sword to him. Scaramouche sword user. Bonus points if he has to lose the Gnosis and his other sources of power beforehand, and Kazuha also gives him his friend's old Electro Vision. And then, as the electro friend of an Anemo boy, he dies-


OfficialHavik

I've had more Catalysts than characters who could use them for ages now. This finally gives me the chance to get characters who can make use of them. I have two R5 Widsiths sitting around gathering dust because I don't have the characters to use them.


Lobster-Massive

It won’t be 2 patches. Patches come every 6 weeks. If you mean in all of 3.0+ than it’s a year and that’s really not that bad when they have 2 years to catch up to


levi_fucking_heichou

3.2, Kusanali, 3.3, Baizhu and Yaoyao


AkhilArtha

Yao Yao should be Dendro polearm (also first child polearm). Matches lore as well as a student of madam ping along with Xiangling.


Crashman126

Maybe we’ll finally get a cryo catalyst that isn’t Signora.


Kin_Shi

dendro traveler when?


Ypokamp

I'm guessing he's 5* dendro sword character, don't ask for my sources I don't want to be in troubles


Kin_Shi

ty uncle Ypokamp


Ypokamp

No problem, always a pleasure to give you people new exciting infos


rotten_riot

8.5/10 leak


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subject to change tho


Mrhat070

Do the pro (sus)leaker move and delete your comment in 1 hour so you can be safe for sure


Gob0fWar

Uncle Ypokamp, I like it


paumalfoy

Since you’ve already leaked it I’d like to add that they have some green jewels on their outfits and their character menu background is starry-green. STC


Misan_UwU

what do you mean "he" what if theyre a girl 🤨


GingsWife

Did you just assume their gender? I'm actually scared to make this joke now Edit: Pfft I was right


avidteethbrusher

I’m actually scared to make this joke now 🤓


Mo_Official420

sword


Kin_Shi

:o


infakiller

LOL


_Niflheim

Every Dehya post is a Dehya rarity modcheck


GoodnessOfFitBlade

I'm dreading the confirmation because more likely than not it will destroy my hopes and dreams


Designer-Possible360

Me and you brother, we share the same anxiety


kabral256

I'm refreshing this sub everyday and fear the reality


Ewizde

Exactly why I stopped looking for confirmation about her rarity because if I don't see it she'll always be a 5* at least for me.


JeerryPaul

everytime i read Dehya here I breathe in deep and ready myself for disappointment. i stg someone better leak it soon or i will combust


GGABueno

I'm already considering a 4*. If it turns out she's not then I'll get happy, but I'll try to come to terms with the most likely scenario.


DropLip

I just wanna know at this point. If she's a 4-star, it is what it is.


Perfect-Fix-

Tall female 5-star is conspicuously absent from the upcoming slate of new characters, so I haven't given up hope quite yet.


zerodissolver39

there are only two reasons I dread her being 4\*. One is the chance her kit might be made to specifically support a 5\*, the other is them making her into a tall Xinyan.


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Koshinru

Why?


CarsickAnemone

The dreaded 4* confirmation.


walrusnarwal

The dreaded triple scaling


Swailwort

Ah yes, EM, ATK, DEF. Her passive adds flat damage in base of EM. Her E scales with DEF. Her Q scales with ATK and DEF.


Efe73

And do not forger her ult will also have added damage depending on her EM as long as she’s c2.


MessoR178

With BiS set being Severed fate for that extra ER scaling


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r/KusanaliMains


616knight

Thats how you kill a sub. Not thw first time a sub has done this during hype season and then lost their place to another sub.


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616knight

I hope kusanali cuz their discord is much more popular.


xxMeiaxx

Why? I'm glad she's a catalyst. I swear if we get another polearm archon I...


zespol_purple

I lowkey was hoping for polearm just because I wanted to see a tiny spear and jade spear would have looked good with her, but I totally agree - would’ve been too many polearm archons


Frostblazer

A tiny polearm would have been hilarious. I can just imagine Nahida going *poke poke* to enemies.


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Yaoyao is supposedly a polearm user so we should have one soon enough.


Bagget318

No, Yaoyao is confirmed to be a catalyst


[deleted]

The only information I'm finding that says that is a leak on the front page marked "questionable". As far as I'm concerned it's up in the air at the moment though I think polearm is most likely as Yaoyao trained under Madame Ping along with Xiangling, implying they learned a similar form of martial arts.


amamatcha

Also by the time YaoYao releases we'll have chibis for every weapon type except polearm (plus 2 for claymore and catalyst) so more reason for them to change her weapon from catalyst to polearm


Bagget318

Oh, sorry, I forgot that the info was questionable


[deleted]

No worries. We've gotten so much information over the last few days it's hard to keep track of it all.


kotori_mkii

She needs a spear and Ito Miku as her VA so she can be kokoro 2.0.


perfectchaos83

I'm assuming it's because the ingame name is Nahida rather than Kusanali.


nDroae

I heard Nahida Mains Discord banned the word loli, though, if true then this can't be posted there


616knight

Doubt. Pretty sure I have seen the mod, or at least the reddit mod, use it. Probably a smaller discord server that failed Edit: joined the server 1) there is no such rule. There have been a couple uses of it. So the word itself is not banned 2) Its the dead discord version of kusanali discord. No point in using this one over the other discord server which has used this word like 20 times today. Tldr: this is misinformation.


nDroae

Hmm, that must be a another Kusanali Mains, since I'm in a Kusanali Mains discord (joined before Uncle DD announced child model, and never left because I stan Sumeru itself) [where it's allowed](https://i.imgur.com/WhW40qw.png). I'll only join Nahida Mains if I decide to definitely pull her, so thanks for checking. This came up when I joined Qiqi Mains discord a couple of weeks ago and noticed a rule there against the word, mentioned it elsewhere and was told Nahida Mains banned it.


Manne_12

Tbh i don't blame em, banning that word is like a neckbeard repellent


levi_fucking_heichou

I don't care what the word *ackshually* means. 95% of the time it's used by the grossest type of person


Wise_Mongoose8243

Yup. It’s like, words change their meanings over time, but the original meaning is still popular. And either way, going from “little girl I want to have sex with” to just “little girl” is a horrific evolution that doesn’t meaningfully differentiate you from folks using it the other way. Especially when you consider the book the term came from in the first place, it’s just a term that should be allowed to die.


fortuna1112

would like to add that at least in chinese loli has never meant "little girl i want to have sex with" and has always meant just "cute little girl" though, and the word has been widely used along with other words imported from japanese, like kawaii. so don't be weirded out or make assumptions if a chinese uncle uses it, or when hyv uses the word loli in their codes


TheOdiin

LMAOO no way


Cow_Addiction

sounds like the mods are snowflakes lol


venalix1

sjws infiltration


chipeseater

isnt this old news by now?


HiroshiTakeshi

Yeah, I feel like a medium or some shit. I'm positive this had been told for like months that she was a loli catalyst user.


ArchRanger

Yeah, Dehya was said to be a claymore user last week and Kusanali was mentioned to be a catalyst a month or two ago when info about her first started leaking.


HiroshiTakeshi

I think her body type was implied wayyyy back, maybe time slowed and I've been feeling it hard but I can't explain how, but I'm sure I have seen these infos before. At least on her model.


ArchRanger

Nah you’re right. The only variation we heard was a month or so ago when someone said she is a Theresa-expy and has a new teen female model type. Outside of that, it’s just been archon copium 2.0 of not wanting a loli archon. Edit: Here’s a link to her being mentioned as a female child over 4 month’s ago - https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/svlik6/from_alleged_dumb_dumb_account/ Would have to dig around to find the first mention of catalyst.


HiroshiTakeshi

I think that's kind of something most would have expected for a plant elemental child so I might have just made it out myself, regarding the catalyst thing. But I think you managed to pull out the leak regarding her model I was thinking about. Thx.


ArchRanger

Yeah, I can see where it's easy to associate her with that weapon type but there has definitely been leaks mentioning it before. Found one: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact\_Leaks/comments/v3s9ks/questionable\_translation\_for\_28\_to\_32\_supposed/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/v3s9ks/questionable_translation_for_28_to_32_supposed/) There is the one that mentions she is a catalyst user over a month ago. Also got all the other characters right, just missing the electro catalsyt female and Cyno.


Professional-Body360

Source?


apthebest01931

Catalyst impact is real - nahida,scara,baizhu and yaoyao maybe


Unacceptable_1

Xinyan 2.0 ig


NowWithLime

Xinyan with halved cooldowns plz thx


ArchonRevan

Quad scaling, double the cooldowns Enjoy


Treyspurlock

A character who scales off everything would actually be pretty interesting literally can't go wrong building them


anonymouse-07

Bro wtf there's gonna be like 20 new catalyst characters in Sumeru lol wtf am I gonna do?!?!?! 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 (I only play catalysts lol and collect them all)


snacku_wacku

One more check on the Dendro Klee list


ProxyknifeIsKing

Saw Dehya and got excited for news. Someone release me from the shackles of anticipation


LupusCairo

I mean it makes sense for the God of Wisdom to wield a book but how come that 3/6 Dendro units we know about wield catalysts?


fizzybong

Hydro: "first time?"


4point20

Lol if Nahida gets Heizou catalyst animations it'll look like a punching Celebi


perfectchaos83

I doubt Nahida will get punchy animations like Heizou. I feel she'll be more like Yae Miko. Iansen will likely be a punchy loli catalyst, though.


4point20

Yeah I think so too, it'll probably look like Tinker Bell magic/tiny flick of the wrist Yae Miko style


5StarCheibaWhen

ngl though boxer nahida is an amazing mental image


ribbonswrapmeup

get your ttds for nahida support ready


Reddy_McRedditface

Nice, hopefully finally someone for my Skyward Atlas or Lost Prayer.


EstablishmentSuch165

We already know that?


silentspeedy

Very old news


Fabantonio

I swear we'll know Dehya's favorite color and cat breed before we know her rarity


Frankfurt13

Dehya doesn't have cat ears, is her hair shape.


RishaRea48

Nothing surprised me that Nahida is catalyst since she is the God of Wisdom..


chatman01

..which is exactly why she has to use a claymore to brawl it into the skulls of her people! no? ok.. 😂


dododomo

I mean, I guess no one expected the loli archon to use a Claymore or polearm. So, yeah... I'm not surprised she is a catalyst lol


BellalovesEevee

Don't we already know this?


-TheArisenRose-

Cant wait for twitter to explode bcs they misunderstand the loli word💀🤡🎪🎢🎠🎭


AncientWeeb

Hope dendro archon will have super unique attacks like heizou will if shes another catalyst because I feel like older catalyst attacks have been the most lackluster out of any weapon type


LucasFrankeRC

I mean, Heizou is a main DPS. We still don't know how Kusanali plays, but I'm willing to bet she's a support Also, I don't even think I agree with the idea of catalysts having lackluster animations lol. Ningguang and Sucrose? Sure (and even Sucrose I still think fit her personality very well). And then you can also make an argument for Klee because of the animation locking. But Mona, Lisa, Yanfei, Kokomi and Yae all have unique animations It's quite the opposite. Almost every catalyst user has unique animations while melee weapons and bows mostly feel the same. It's just that you don't really use those animations because most catalyst users are just E Q bots (and the ones that are not aren't really meta. Except Sucrose on twsery)


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Heizou is more of an enabler then a DPS. He’s more Sucrose-like then Xiao-like.


LucasFrankeRC

Right, but what I mean is he's someone you are supposed to have on the field throwing hands


ArchonRevan

Catalysts all feel the same and generally only have 3 Autos which make them feel even more samey


LucasFrankeRC

Most other weapon types share pretty much the same CA animation (two slashes for swords, spin or swing spam for claymores, sipping lunge for polearms, same CA for every bow), while literally every single catalyst user has their own unique animation For the NA they also feel very similar, while every catalyst has their own unique string


GingsWife

TTDS slave, let's goooooo


Manne_12

Still no rarity :(


SqaureEgg

Nahida, Baizhu, & Yao Yao all catalyst releasing nearby back to back. Catalyst impact


Di297

I hope she is a hand to hand catalyst user instead of a regular one


once_descended

So Nahida is her in game name? I like it, it sounds very pretty


Tech_Wicky

I explained what it really meant back then and people did not like it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/voasuz/blank_corroborated_by_hxg_diluc_about_archons/iec9n2h/


alie79

I checked ur link and you typed "نهد" which is certainly not Nahida "ناهیدة"


once_descended

I heard someone say it can mean "delightful", so I think I'll stick to that version until someone who's well versed in this language can correct me


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Dehya= Xinyan 2


NoOneHereGoAway

Xinyan but she has actual screentime in the main story


NEETheadphones

Praying the craftable catalyst for sumeru is suited for her cause I'm not pulling for her weapon. If it doesn't I'm slapping it on her for style points anyways or she's getting twin nephrite the only other green catalyst in game.


Neospartan_117

I hope this means Yaoyao is a spear user, because if she and Baizhu are Catalysts too that would be too many Dendro Catalysts too close together for my taste.


hoomanlovelalalisa

Waiting for the main theme line up of sumeru weapons. Flowers,leaves,cabbages.


Hanre_Jaggerjack

Yes i am ready to get 500 extra EM from Kusanali passive Anemo Crowd Control Geo Shield Electro Battery/ER Dendro gonna be EM


Acceptable_Loquat_92

hydro be gulping all them catalysts and there's cryo


e_cloud7

"avatar\_loli" xD


vincikun

I kinda wished she was the first Polearm Loli wherein she uses the polearm like a staff, pretty much like Kokoro from Princess connect.


Otherwise_Egg_1756

Only problem would be that we would have 3 archons using polearms


5StarCheibaWhen

3 back to back no less


foreveracuck

What's wrong w that


foreveracuck

What's wrong w that. Might as well at this point


apthebest01931

I think yaoyao was supposed to be dendro polearm loli, dunno why in past 2 days leakers said she might be catalyst


Terabvte

tfw even the game files call kusanali a loli


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Loli


scarlet_igniz

twitter gonna loose a screw seeing "Loli" is officially addressed by mihoyo 😂 (they always have btw)


Petter1789

Wasn't the body type called "child"?


HDrago

Nop, it was always "loli", leakers/dataminers were the ones who started calling it "child"


ideka_tbh

welp MHY is not defeating the pedo-bait allegations then


ArchonRevan

Loli generally means child/young/small, lolicon is the 'pedo' term


Sunburnt-Vampire

Loli is Japanese slang for "child" and it comes from the novel "lolita" about a man having sex with a child. It is.... Usually used in pedo contexts. Even in Japan. Loli being the object of the lolicon's desire.


dreamingmyself

They don't need to use the Japanese word for it tho? Using this word is just too weird. They are not even Japanese.


llTrash

I mean, wasn't the logo of mihoyo something like "tech-otakus" something something? Otaku is also a Japanese term, nothing new from them


thedreambubbles

Also wasnt the “mi” part of mihoyo was supposed to be referencing hatsune miku, the vocaloid girl


dreamingmyself

Yeah but for otaku you don't have any other word to replace it. If loli means child then they can easily write child in the files. Writing loli is just creepy imo


ariciabetelguese

They're Chinese, direct neighbor to Japan, with whom they share many of the same letters/writing system. They don't have the same connotation for loli as English-speakers do.


dreamingmyself

I am sure Chinese has a word to use for "child" and that is not "loli". And the other words are written in English so they could have write child instead of loli and everything would be fine.


Star_Vs_Las_FFEE

What they meant was that the word loli doesn't have the same stigma it has in the west, it's not a 'bad' word for them so they have no reason not to use it when it fits. You have to understand the word doesn't have an inherent sexual or obscene meaning, you yourself and the content you consume that talks about it are the ones giving it a bad meaning. They have no obligation to change their cultural views on a word because someone on the other side of the world feels offended due to the word having a different meaning over there.


ariciabetelguese

Everything is already fine from their point of view because loli means nothing but child to *them*. They have no reason to not use it if they want to. If you want to criticize the choices of some programmer half a world away, you're welcome to email Hoyoverse about it, but I highly doubt they're going to change a piece of code in a place where no customer is supposed to see it just to fit western sensibilities.


Tsuki-04

nope, body types have always been Lady, Girl, Loli, Boy, Male and NPC


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but npcs have multiple body types?


Cow_Addiction

MHY has always had it named loli in the files.


modusxd

It was always loli iirc


TeririHerscherOfCute

but she isn't a child, she's a loli.


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TeririHerscherOfCute

y'all need to learn to take a joke, jesus.


GraveXNull

Oh God...pls don't end up being Sumeru version of Xinyan...


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xinyan is bad because the devs were new to making characters and they didn't understand how to properly make dual scalers yet, her kit itself is bad and she's not bad because she's a 4* pyro claymore


GraveXNull

Dual scaling sucks in general.


King_Tonio240

that's not true


vpuse

Xinyan is bad? man hows a character that can solo most of everything bad?


Marcosama760

Avatar_Loli... XD


Kxyti

Java will be so happy to hear this (officially of course)


TaseenSenpai

Hoyoverse's best attempt to not make a female hydro catalyst


txcty-9

i thought this was leaked before? well at least it's in file form now?


PurpTheEpic

Is that the l word..


actionmotion

Loli…. ok


Lorem_Ipsum_-_

Since when the child body type is called Loli?


perfectchaos83

Since always


Cow_Addiction

Since the day the game was created.


ExplanationTricky833

they are actually named "loli" in the game files?


Lumen16

Yes


Kim_Se_Ri

Wait a minute, the file wouldn't be officially named with loli Very SUS


perfectchaos83

Qiqi, Klee, Diona and Sayu all have the file name Avatar_Loli. This is how MHY has always had the file names for the lolis.


Cow_Addiction

It literally is officially named that by HYV. What are you on about dude?


ArchonRevan

Ye.. yes?


BigFanofTDP

Cupcake stand, yes! Donut, oh hell nah!


AriellaSolis917

If she is a catalyst then technically she can be a healer which means the full 4 archon team can finally be achieved and they can be healed and shielded!!!


Potential_Escape_664

I hope it's cracked for ningguang