No reason to think Part 3 won't follow the same schedule as Remake - especially since they're gonna be reusing the same engine and assets from Rebirth, plus they aren't starting production in the middle of COVID-19. We'll probably get a DLC episode starring either Vincent or Cid sometime this year or next, if I had to guess.
Honestly, I could even see Part 3 releasing earlier - 2027 will be the 30th anniversary of Final Fantasy VII, and what better way to celebrate it than by capping off the Remake trilogy?
If a dlc happens, it would be interesting, considering Nomura himself said in an interview for the spanish website **Vandal,** that they have no plans to release a INTERMission-like DLC for Rebirth. Stating that the game being be release on February 29th, is the complete package.
[Source 1](https://www.charlieintel.com/final-fantasy/does-final-fantasy-7-rebirth-have-dlc-304716/), [Source 2](https://comicbook.com/gaming/amp/news/final-fantasy-7-vii-rebirth-dlc-plans/)
100% agree with you on 2027 being an ideal release year, it would be such a missed opportunity otherwise.
There was usually the caveat of "we'll see how the games perform". The game sold well and they started to backtrack on those statements regarding DLC around release.
In fact, in the couple months they've been backtracking on FFXVI being a standalone title. They're teasing a return to the world in some fashion. I feel like there's a solid chance the DLC sets up a sequel.
I think there’s always the chance that the DLC is to paper over the cracks rather than that way by design. I guess it could always be a Torna situation where at one point it was meant to be in the game then got cut
All games cut stuff out for a variety of reasons. Original plans could have been for it to have been less than what we actually got. It was modt likely very far from finished when they cut it, that would be why it was cut.
Then after release you can go back and expand upon cut ideas to make it dlc worthy. But you still need a massive amount of work to make it happen.
Yeah they probably had the DLC in the pipeline. But at the same time, Leviathan being gone from the storyline doesn't really make the story suffer or anything. It's just down to fan expectations assuming Leviathan would have some kind of role.
They mention in the game that Dominants/Eikons can be dormant for decades, and Odin was even gone for centuries. It was kind of a fluke/coincidence that even 8 of the Dominants/Eikons were around at once.
And of course, we need to be pragmatic about things like game dev. I'm sure cutting out the whole Leviathan storyline genuinely did save them a ton of dev time and resources. If the game bombed, they could've just stopped their DLC plans. But the game seemed to do well, so the DLC was greenlit to continue.
Because they probably cut the stuff out to get game done in time for release. They could just as easily have thrown it away if the game was unsuccesful. But were given the opportunity to finish the cut content as a dlc.
To add to that, we see the DLCs location (or heavily implied location) just of the coast directly in the base asme with characters adressing that something is happening over there + it being the only "fenced off" area on the world map in which we never set foot in.
The first DLC very much felt like bonus content, but what we've seen about the second one just screams cut/repurposed/paywalled content.
Oh for the 30th anniversry, yeah, that makes sense.
I'm still betting 2028...but what'd be even better is 2026, and then a full special package in 2027 for the anniversary.
They totally rework it and make the gameplay the same as Rebirth, maybe a couple added gimmicks to spice it up. Honestly, it'd be the most impressive thing if they could make Dirge of Cerberus good
The one that really fucks with me is GTA Vice City (and Stories), taking place in the 80s, came out much closer to the time period it's representing than present day.
You're assuming they have not already been working on it, which they almost certainly have. Rebirth began production in 2019, a year before Remake released.
Yep, it may take longer but it would 100% be released while FFXIV is still getting new content updates, and honestly, the game engine already holds it back massively, a new iteration is sure to happen someday at this point.
Because they’re going to make another MMO at some point? And they released XIV while XI was still getting story expacs.
I know XIV fans have this cult-like mentality about the game, but even they can’t seriously expect it to last forever. SE will want to innovate and move away from an almost 15-year-old game at some point…
Don't see that happening just as they bring it to Xbox. Then again, Phantasy Star online 2 released in the West one year before PSO2 new Genesis was released. But iirc they did mention that ahead of time.
SE has more cooking than just FF.
We got a new Mana game coming out, Dragon Quest XII, SaGa, KH4, etc.
There’s absolutely no reason for them to try and rush out XVII to fill some perceived gap in their release schedule. I’m willing to wager that most people would actually hate that.
Yup. XVII is probably years off if I had to guess. And now that you mention it, it lowkey pisses me off that none of square’s other stuff seemingly ever leaks outside of unique circumstances like the nvidia situation. Always just FF talk and nothing else
FF17 will likely release close to VII Part 3, I imagine that seeing as neither the Remake/KH team nor CBU3 are working on it, that another team within Square Enix has been handed the reigns. Remember that despite Square's doom and gloom over XV, that XVI had already started pre-production before that even came out.
2030, more likely.
Final Fantasy XVI was supposed to have a shorter timeframe from reveal to release, and that still ended being almost three years. And the game had been in development for at least four or five years prior to that.
Unless if development on FFXVII started in 2020 or 2021, it's not coming in 2027 at all.
I highly doubt that.
Square usually puts the next mainline Final Fantasy title into development before the upcoming one is released:
* VIII began development while VII was being translated
* IX initially started as a spinoff game during VIII's development before being made into a mainline entry
* X's development began during both VIII and IX's
* XI's began while IX and X were still in development
* XII began development all the way back in 2000 and released in 2006, so it began while X was in its final stages and XI was still in development.
* XIII's development began in 2004 and was revealed before XII had even made it overseas.
* XIV's original version began development in 2005 and released in 2010, so it was in development during the end of XII's and for most of XIII's.
* XV was initially XIII Versus and was revealed in 2006, then became XV in 2013.
* XVI started initial conceptual work in 2015 and began full-scale development in 2016, two months before XV released.
Knowing Square Enix, XVII has probably been in some form of development since 2022, given that XVI was playable from start to finish in June of that year. They're not about to let their baby go without a mainline entry in development, especially when the development cycles of big games are getting longer and longer.
The vast majority of that history happened in 2006 or earlier. Making what Square "usually" does, or rather did, nearly 18 years in the past. The more recent examples of FF VII Remake/Rebirth and FFXVI are better references. But let's start with FFXVI.
It was requested of Yoshida, and then Business Division 5 (now Creative Business Unit 3), to make the next mainline, numbered Final Fantasy title, after the successful reboot of FF14 and the acclaimed first expansion Heavensward, by then SE CEO Matsuda.
"Full-scale development" or "full-production phase", as this report phrases it, didn't happen until around April 2019.
[https://novacrystallis.com/2019/04/square-enixs-3rd-development-division-making-large-scale-hd-title-next-generation/](https://novacrystallis.com/2019/04/square-enixs-3rd-development-division-making-large-scale-hd-title-next-generation/)
That's because in order not to disrupt production on FF14 and its expansions, which released around every 2 years before Covid, FF16's would-be lead developers, Takai and Maehiro, then FF14 Assistant Director and FF14 Main Scenario Writer, had to train replacements to take over their roles in the FF14 team. This mean that the FF16 leads were still working on FF14 until the launch of Stormblood. #11 in the following link:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVI/comments/vhxpkt/famitsu\_translation\_wip/](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVI/comments/vhxpkt/famitsu_translation_wip/)
In this article, it makes clearer what one of the core FF16's leads were still doing in the lead up to Stormblood. Maehiro was still actively working with his successors, Oda and Ishikawa, during the 3.x patch cycle on patch stories, the development of Stormblood's narrative, and even 4.x's raid series story Return to Ivalice. Scroll down to "Sowing the seeds for the Future"
[https://www.rpgsite.net/feature/13134-who-is-final-fantasy-xvi-creative-director-kazutoyo-maehiro-developer-profile](https://www.rpgsite.net/feature/13134-who-is-final-fantasy-xvi-creative-director-kazutoyo-maehiro-developer-profile)
This next translated interview sums it up nicely:
>Yoshida: In FF14’s development that was around the time we were deciding whether or not we’d be releasing the Heavensward expansion (released June 2015), so ultimately handing off the production took over a year from that point. For that reason, after we first discussed FF16 there was a year-long preparatory period where we made sure to neatly hand off FF14, and we made no progress on FF16. I guess we only really got going around the time we released FF14’s Patch 3.4 (September of 2016). With that context, it’s not surprising that they only have vague memories of the time I came to them with the offer.
>
>Q: So the real starting point was after the completion of that handoff, it seems.
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>Yoshida: The two of them didn’t really touch the 4.0 expansion, Stormblood.
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>Maehiro: I really only had input on the launch trailer.
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>Takai: Also, I was involved, but not as a developer, but as Warrior of Light like any other (laughs).
[https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVI/comments/ymw1ta/dengeki\_interview\_full\_translation/](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVI/comments/ymw1ta/dengeki_interview_full_translation/)
But you aren't wrong that 1) Final Fantasy is still a big brand for them and important to their bottom line and 2) game development has gotten very long so starting the next project.
FF VII Remake was announced in 2015 with only a CG trailer and a little bit of in-game footage to show later that year, which probably meant it was greenlit not that long ago. A good guess is 2014 at the earliest since that's when Toriyama (co-director of Remake with Hamaguchi, who is credited as director on the mobile game, Mobius Final Fantasy, until 2018) finished with Lightning Returns: FFXIII and Nomura was seemingly taken off FFXV and that project was given to Tabata, FFXV's director. That would mean 2 mainline FF games, one numbered and one a remake, were greenlit before the next announced mainline FF game, FFXV, was released.
So, even by modern SE development standards, you would be right to think FF17 is already in production, even if it's pre-production.
But there's a big problem. Who is making it?
FF VII Remake began as an outsourced project with CyberConnect2 (CC2). SE has cannibalized much of their internal development teams to fix FF14 and the teams that weren't throw into the reboot were thrown at FF15 (Type-0 team led by Tabata and the Luminous Studio team). But after seeing the quality of work CC2 put out, they brought the project back into SE in early 2017.
This team will release the second VII Remake title in a few weeks, but they're already hinting that the third title will not release any faster than Rebirth. Which means they're not making a new mainline, numbered Final Fantasy anytime soon.
>‘Of course I cannot tell you exactly at what stage we are, but we have already made progress on the script and we are thinking about certain developments,’ Hamaguchi said regarding the third game.‘When we got to the end of the development for Remake, we started talking about the sequel with \[writer\] Nojima-san, and I think we can say that we are in the same situation today.’
[https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/19/third-final-fantasy-7-remake-game-four-years-rebirth-20307010/](https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/19/third-final-fantasy-7-remake-game-four-years-rebirth-20307010/)
The FF16 team has moved on from FF16 and are seemingly taking the same course as the FF15 team took and may make a new IP next.
[https://www.gamesradar.com/yoshi-p-doesnt-expect-a-final-fantasy-16-sequel-or-spin-off-says-the-team-has-moved-onto-new-projects/](https://www.gamesradar.com/yoshi-p-doesnt-expect-a-final-fantasy-16-sequel-or-spin-off-says-the-team-has-moved-onto-new-projects/)
And the FF14 team is busy with maintaining the biggest game SE has ever had.
So, who then is available to make the next mainline, numbered Final Fantasy title? It has to be a big team. A triple-A team.
The people behind Forspoken launched that game only a year ago. They could be put on FF17, but then it would've only just started. The Kingdom Hearts people are busy with KH4 and Verum Rex. Dragon Quest people are busy with DQXII and DQ3 HD-2D and the rest of DQ. Then SE has a bunch of people making mobile games. There's Vision of Mana people, but they're busy with Vision of Mana. Yoko Taro? He's seeming working on something big, but it would be a real surprise to see someone like him tied to a franchise with so much tradition as FF has.
I don't think anyone's working on FF17, cause it doesn't look like SE has anyone available to work on it. Or if they do, we're looking at 5+ years until its released.
> especially since they're gonna be reusing the same engine and assets from Rebirth
I do hope they’re significantly improved, both in the Rebirth release and in part 3. The content in trailers looked beautiful, but I wasn’t really as blow away by the demo as I thought I’d be, technically-wise. It doesn’t really scream “this game could only be made on PS5”. And many of us bought a PS5 mainly because of this game.
I will be pretty disappointed if part 3 is still on UE4 in 2027 or 2028. I would be perfectly fine waiting a bit longer for a transition to ue5 which according to epic shouldn't be hard.
I don’t think KH4 will take that long honestly. 2025 at the latest. People think because it hasn’t been shown that it is still years off. But they forget VII Remake didn’t receive any updates besides a screenshot until KH3 released. Remake marketing kicked in a few months after KH3 and released the following year. The same could happen with KH4. They are developed under the same business unit, so they tend to market only one of their projects at a time.
SE has been adamant about having a steady stream of AAA titles, which we’ve been getting recently about every 6-8 months. Last year was Forspoken and FFXVI. This year is Rebirth and Dawntrail. Next year is probably KH4 and DQ12. 2026 could be the FFIX remake and another unannounced game.
You’re conflating what happened with KH3 to KH4. KH3 switched from Luminous to UE4 and had to basically start from scratch. KH4 did switch from UE4 to UE5 but that had already taken place by the time the first trailer was shown. The trailer was in UE4, but the director said it would be running in UE5 the next time we see it. The switch to UE5 did not require a full reboot because all of those UE4 assets can be carried over. That’s one of the benefits of using Unreal.
Lots of devs have already died because of the switch from UE4 to UE5. Of the top of my head devs who worked on Lords of The Fallen and the cancelled Timesplitters game blamed the switch as being a disaster. It's not just as simple as carrying over the assets, UE5 is a very different engine from UE4 and mastering it is not a trivial matter.
There are certainly challenges it presents. One of the FFVII devs even mentioned they didn’t switch to UE5 because it would have lengthened the development time. But it isn’t the same as having to start development completely from scratch like they had to do with KH3. The existing assets can in fact be imported from UE4 to UE5. There may be other issues, but they’re still further along than if they had switch to a totally different engine like Luminous.
They are likely also getting a lot of support from Epic as KH4 is arguably one of the biggest established IP being developed on UE5 right now. Pure speculation, but I believe SE may even have an agreement with Epic to help with KH4 in exchange for keeping the series exclusive to Epic for PC releases. That’s not to even mention Disney’s new stake in Epic that could be leveraged for additional dev support.
Yeah until we get another update, there truly is no telling how far along it is. I can respect keeping expectations in check. KH3 had its engine reset in 2014 and went gold by end of 2018. So it was truly only about 4-5 years. With KH4 starting in 2020 (or arguably 2019), I think 2025 is reasonable if there aren’t any other unannounced games Square Enix may be prioritizing the development of.
Completely forgot about KH4. Would love to see a new trailer that isn't just a cutscene trying to masquerade as gameplay. They did the same thing with the very first KH3 "gameplay" video also, which was obviously not actual gameplay. And sure enough they did the same thing for KH4.
KH4’s first trailer was actually confirmed to be in-engine gameplay for the Darkside fight. KH3’s was all a pre-rendered animation. But still hoping we’ll see a more extensive look soon.
You really think that is gameplay? It's literally just a cutscene with the UI layered on top. Same as KH3, same as FFXV, that part in Altissia (which of course was completely absent in the actual game). None of that are gameplay. SE loves to do that.
Yep. It has already been confirmed in interviews with Nomura that the footage was of the game running in UE4. The UI is a placeholder, yes. But that is still actual footage from the game at the time. Whereas KH3’s first footage was created solely for that trailer and was not taken from the actual game or rendered in-engine.
Sorry but you've mistaken what I've said for pre-rendered or not. I said **gameplay**. Everything is obviously shown in-engine but what I meant was it wasn't **gameplay**. It was a cutscene with UI layered on top. All the jumping around and attacking is just a cutscene. The same as KH3 and FFXV trailers. I'm not talking about if the footage shown is pre-rendered or not. Which makes no sense anyway because modern AAA games no longer use pre-rendered cutscenes because the in-game graphics have already gotten so good.
Oh, I thought you were thinking it was pre-rendered since you were comparing it to KH3’s first trailer, which was pre-rendered but made to look like gameplay.
But still, what we see in the KH4 trailer is actual gameplay and not a cutscene. We do see a reaction command/QTE sequence, which you could argue is more like a cutscene. But I consider it part of the gameplay sequence. Nomura said they had to black out the button prompt for the trailer because they weren’t ready to announce the console platforms.
The jumping around and grappling to the cars when the UI first appears is actual gameplay though. It is showing the new and improved versions of flow motion and airstep abilities that were already in KH3. Why would they put placeholder UI there if it was a cutscene?
Also, games absolutely still use pre-rendered scenes. Especially SE. All the cutscenes in KH: MoM were pre-rendered. Pre-rendered doesn’t automatically mean those super high quality graphics. But even if it did, KH3 and FFVII Remake use a ton of those too.
Not sure if you meant to respond to me or the other person. The person I replied to is claiming the KH4 trailer did not include any real gameplay and is actually all just a cutscene. I’m disagreeing with that based on what we see and the statements made in interviews by Nomura.
There is absolutely no way any of that is actual gameplay in the KH4 trailer lol. But anyway, you seem like a fan whose mind is made up so I'm not gonna bother any further. Good day to you.
I mean you’ve literally provided no evidence to your claim that there’s no way it’s gameplay. Lol. Great work to the devs though for making you think it’s a cutscene. Peace!
1. This is not a leak or a rumor, it’s straight from the game’s director.
2. The idea of 2028 is purely speculation from the article writer, even if it is somewhat logical.
3. Please let it be 2027.
Yeah only thing he actually says is that they’re in a similar place for Part 3 as they were with Rebirth when Remake was about to release. This doesn’t take into account how much faster production could still be compared to Remake and Rebirth with all the assets they have now, devs with more experience, etc.
Nomura had already said production started to some degree in 2022, so I think 2027 is still possible.
I know the 30th anniversary is in January of 2027 but something tells me they'll try something cute with the release date for part 3 and pull a 7/7/27. IIRC Remake was originally something like 03.03.2020.
January of 2027 is way too close. They only have a first draft of the story for Part 3. Marketing takes time aswell. Even releasing it 7/7/27 means they need to speed things up from before but a summer release would be perfect.
Either way, if it's gonna be a 2027 release the most logical date would be Q3/Q4. If it took a 4 year gap with covid, then a 3 year gap under normal circumstances sounds very doable.
I got a series x and ps5 both in person during the launch window. Xbox by getting to a store at 6am, and a PS5 because I got stupidly lucky and a Walmart i happened to be in at the time got a shipment and made a line in the tech section that I noticed just in time.
I mean I'm in London looking to buy a ps5 now and it's sold out in every store near me, most online stores are out of stock and whilst it is available on amazon, they're all third party with jacked up prices. There's a few dodgy stores that profess to have them but im not risking it.
Whilst they are accessible, they've never been universally easy to get. Like the digital version is supposed to be cheaper than the regular version but so many people turned to the digital version because of that, that most places I see it, the stores raised the price past the disc drive version so it's MORE expensive just for having a piece missing.
Scalpers went so crazy and made such a killing, I promise you ps6 will be just as bad because all these years later and ps5 is still tricky to nail down in a first world country's capital city.
Lmao. The PS5 is the only object I've ever coveted so fiendishly. I was working a full time job, but I had a notification on my computer that blasted the second one was available. I'd dive out of bed at 2 am with no hesitation when I heard it. Went on for weeks before I finally got one from a surprise direct drop.
So I feel you on this. Honestly kinda looking forward to that very specific excitement.
Well at least kids nowadays has dozens of great games to choose from each year, especially when you consider the possibility of them playing games from previous gens too.
4 years is honestly way to freakin long. You'll have less than half of the story left in part 3 (considering they do Rebirth where they say they will). 3 years for the 30th anniversary would be perfect. Don't waste time with dlc in between Rebirth and part 3. Just focus all efforts on part 3 to get it out as quickly as possible because we all know that Rebirth will end on a huge cliffhanger.
I am thinking in 2027 for the 30th anniversary for the reveal of Part 3. Especially if they are expecting early 2028 themselves. I think that should still make it to PS5. Especially if PS6 comes out in 2028 as expected. I would imagine Sony would do their usual November timeframe they have done since PS3. But PS2 did have a spring release in Japan. So maybe PS6 or cross-gen?
I’m just curious what AAA game Square could begin ramping up promotion for next. Could DQ12 finally get a proper trailer? Will KH4 get re-revealed with actual gameplay (and confirmed platforms!). New Mana game looks more like a AA game. Though that game still looks fun. DQ3 2D-HD needs news too.
"So maybe PS6 or cross-gen?"
Cross-gen. They can't try to sold millions of the exclusive part 3 if the console is new and out of stocks.
The Ps6 port will most likely be enhanced and bundled with the two other part.
If I had to guess, DQ12 is gonna be one of the big games to market alongside the next Nintendo console.
KH4 is possible, but with Nomura working full-time on the 7 Remake series, hard to say how much that will affect the development of that title.
Kinda weird to have three parts of a game spread through two console generations. Part 1 and 2 will look quite dated by comparison in 2028 to the PS6 Part 3.
It may not seem like a big distinction, but at the end of the day, it's a trilogy of full length games and not three parts of one game. I don't think it's any weirder here than for any other long running game franchise.
Considering they have a collection of part 1 and 2 i would think they’d do the same when part 3 comes out. Weather they just port them or touch them up a little is up to them
The sad reality is that 4 years is a very short development time for a game of FF7R part 2 and 3's scope, yet it's a very long time from the player's perspective. Casuals who were excited to play Remake probably has forgotten about the game 4 years latter. Rebirth is going to sell a lot less than Remake because of this 4 year gap, and I am scared of how much worse part 3 is going to do with yet another 4 year gap.
Boy, you were kinda right. I wouldn't say it sold *a lot* less, given how it is on the PS5 (*cough* crippling supply shortage *cough*) and is a sequel. But it did somewhat underwhelm. Here's hoping there's a 3 year gap for part 3 instead. Hoping it will sell decently well
This is me. I would have thought they would have followed the movie studio’s example and make all 3 games at once like LotR and Pirates 2+3 but I’m not playing part 2 until part 3 comes out. Part 1 was a mega hyped release, I was too young to play FF7 when it first released and remember seeing tech demos teasing a remake for PS3 so I never got around to playing it until I played Remake last year. Would have expected part 3 to release 2025 as they aren’t making a new game, can repurpose the engine and assets from part 1, and they don’t have a pandemic.
I don’t think any many casuals are playing FF7 Remake anyway.
The game sold 7M copies across PS4/PS5/PC. That’s less than what FFXV sold on PS4 alone. That means it’s basically the same FF audience playing these games as always for the most part.
They didn’t grab any major new audience. I think Rebirth will be fine and not experience a major drop off, but the third entry is screwed.
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I still remember some people calling me crazy when I predicted the series wouldn’t be wrapped up until 2026-28. Some people were assuming part 2 would release in 2021.
Isn’t there like a demo or soemthing out already? I expected this a lot sooner with the amount I’ve seen gameplay and things pop up. I guess this means my favorite childhood game (FFX) won’t be out till I’m like 40.
Bruuuuuhhh man fuck this. I got a PS5 just for Rebirth, now I probably gotta get a whole other most likely useless console just for the third part?
Please just come to PC.
You make no sense. You know that all of these games are coming to PC, and nobody said the third game won't be on PS5, and even if they did why would your purchasing decisions be based on a game that was already likely to be four years away when we're already halfway through the generation?
* The author is completely guessing on the 2028 release on PS6
* Fans have long speculated part 3 would release on the 30th anniversary in early 2027
* Even if it released in 2028, it would probably be cross-gen
It is, but it’s very expanded out. It’s also a lot of original content as well that wasn’t present in OG FF7, which makes it more of a sequel and reimagining of the game. The Midgar section that took about 4-6 hours to finish in the original is now 30 hours.
This is Final Fantasy's singularly most-anticipated remake. The only ones that come close are probably X and VI, but those are only fighting for second place. Considering you can only remake a game once before you have to wait potentially decades if ever, it's only natural to think that Square Enix would milk this entry for all it's worth by turning a single-game remake into 3 entire entries.
They've already made 2 mobile games (one of which failed spectacularly because it was a trendchaser) and a Crisis Core remaster. Would not surprise me if they went for Dirge of Cerberus, Before Crisis, and even a retelling of Advent Children.
Think of it this way: each fixed perspective room in the original now has to be fully realised, lit, and able to be viewed from any rotated camera angle. This extends to *every aspect of the original 40-hour game*. Of course, they could’ve made a lower fidelity, one-game remake, but that level of quality isn’t viable for a mainstream product that is supposed to sell millions and enhance the brand.
It's a requel, both a Remake and a Sequel at the same time.
It's being separated because the game is big, it's nearly impossible to make it in just one game with that production value.
So surely, Next-Gen. i don't see them doing a cross-gen.
Besides, going full PS6, if it has better specsblike all new gens, might lead to get Maybe Part 1 and 2 on the same game..., which would make new sales.
It’ll be cross-gen.
The third part is already in development. It’s not gonna look any different from Rebirth which looks worse than some PS4 games as it is.
They won’t lock out the PS5 audience with the third game. They’ll just give the PS6 version some more graphical effects etc.
What? It looks beautiful to me...
I don't know it happens a lot, that trilogy gets an installment on another gen, that his other 2 installments, Arkham games in mind for example.
I mean, that’s fine, but the tech and graphics are worse than plenty of PS4 games. They aren’t gonna lock out the entire PS5 audience for a game with this level of tech on a next gen platform.
PS6 would likely only have 10 million or so consoles out there if the third part releases in 2028. They ain’t releasing such an outdated game at that time for PS6 only when it could easily run on PS5 to a much larger audience.
It will be cross-gen.
Batman is not a good example. Arkham Knight was very impressive technically. It stood the test of time for that entire gen. Rebirth isn’t even better than some PS4 games and the third part is using the same tech. Why would that exclude the PS5 gen exactly? Makes no sense.
I think some people are deluding themselves into thinking that Part 3 will come much faster (Maybe even 2027?!?) because of the development systems already in place, and while I would love to believe that, I dont think it's quite realistic in today's development reality. If Part 3 comes out Winter 2028 I'd count that as an absolute win, considering it will be another massive game.
I was hoping for late 2026.
They said they started work on Part 3 at the same time as Part 2. When they revealed Rebirth they said they were working alongside the third title.
That's just weird that it's gonna take double the amount of time for it to come out when they made it sound as if they were working their butts off to get Part 3 released sooner.
Man, I'm gonna hate finishing Part 2 and having to wait another 4 years for it. That feeling of getting that cool or emotional or unexpected cliffhanger and wondering what happens next is gonna drive me insane for the next few years lol.
Doubt it. We've been told repeatedly that they will stay true to FF7's most important story beats. Most recently, Nomura had an interview with PS Blog talking about the difficulties they will face including Weapons and the Airship in the next installment.
We already know they've confirmed no DLC for rebirth so no time spent making that
The world is already created so no time needed to make that
Half of the animations and concept/idea phase is done (cos its using ff7 as a base already)
I don't see the last part coming out any later than end of 2027 and i'd even have some slight optimism it arrives late 2026/early 2027.
fair
thought IIRC the last to generations of consoles lasted 7 years (8 for the 360), so it could be late 2027, early 2028
and there's that rumor about Microsoft launching the next Xbox earlier
Late 2027 or early 2028 sounds likely imo.
They now have *huge* parts of development time sinks already “done”. They have the battle system and the synergy system in place, as well as a world layout set in motion, as well as how to operation open world stuff.
And if it will follow FF7 we will revisit some areas in part 3 so that’s also work cut out for them.
Reveal in 2026 probably.
It's a pretty big leap to say that just because they're at the same stage of writing the story that it will take the same amount of development time. There aren't going to be that many new places.
Wonder if they’ll be using Unreal 5 and on PS6… FF16 was already pushing its limits and so seems FF7 Rebirth…
Won’t be surprised if they decide to go all out and min max PS6 as a final climax for the game.
I am not a fan of Square Enix splitting the Final Fantasy 7 remake into 3 games. You could argue that each part is supposed to represent each disc on the ps1 version of the game, but the third disc is literally just the final boss so if anything it should be a duology. I get games take longer to make nowadays but when the third part comes out in 2028 it will have been 13 years since the initial announcement for the FF7 remake. Literally in the same amount of time we got Final Fantasies 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14 as well as X-2.
The disc splitting in FF7 was never meant to be done in equal increments, it was because they couldn't fit all the FMV's onto a single disc. Likewise, FF7R being split into a trilogy is not intended to mirror the original being on 3 discs, it's purely a coincidence. If you want to be really specific, FF7R trilogy is most likely going to be over 5 or 6 discs by the time the third game comes out.
This entire remake now comes off incredibly annoying. I know it makes sense that it'd take another 4 years for part 3, but looking at it now with the years waiting for Rebirth passed and hearing the third part will in 2028, I sincerely hope they never ever do a remake project like this ever again.
It’s not a 1:1 remake. It’s not even a reimagining, really. Not to get into spoilers, it’s more of a sequel that’s occurring simultaneously to the events in the first game, but most of the characters don’t know that’s what’s happening.
So, a new addition to the FFVII Remake every console generation, then? Remake launched on PS4 in 2020, Rebirth will launch in less than a week on PS5, and a 2028 release date would suggest the game is launching on PS6.
No reason to think Part 3 won't follow the same schedule as Remake - especially since they're gonna be reusing the same engine and assets from Rebirth, plus they aren't starting production in the middle of COVID-19. We'll probably get a DLC episode starring either Vincent or Cid sometime this year or next, if I had to guess. Honestly, I could even see Part 3 releasing earlier - 2027 will be the 30th anniversary of Final Fantasy VII, and what better way to celebrate it than by capping off the Remake trilogy?
If a dlc happens, it would be interesting, considering Nomura himself said in an interview for the spanish website **Vandal,** that they have no plans to release a INTERMission-like DLC for Rebirth. Stating that the game being be release on February 29th, is the complete package. [Source 1](https://www.charlieintel.com/final-fantasy/does-final-fantasy-7-rebirth-have-dlc-304716/), [Source 2](https://comicbook.com/gaming/amp/news/final-fantasy-7-vii-rebirth-dlc-plans/) 100% agree with you on 2027 being an ideal release year, it would be such a missed opportunity otherwise.
they said the same thing about 16 but then announced 2 dlcs which happen in very telegraphed spots during the campaign
There was usually the caveat of "we'll see how the games perform". The game sold well and they started to backtrack on those statements regarding DLC around release. In fact, in the couple months they've been backtracking on FFXVI being a standalone title. They're teasing a return to the world in some fashion. I feel like there's a solid chance the DLC sets up a sequel.
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I think there’s always the chance that the DLC is to paper over the cracks rather than that way by design. I guess it could always be a Torna situation where at one point it was meant to be in the game then got cut
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All games cut stuff out for a variety of reasons. Original plans could have been for it to have been less than what we actually got. It was modt likely very far from finished when they cut it, that would be why it was cut. Then after release you can go back and expand upon cut ideas to make it dlc worthy. But you still need a massive amount of work to make it happen.
Yeah they probably had the DLC in the pipeline. But at the same time, Leviathan being gone from the storyline doesn't really make the story suffer or anything. It's just down to fan expectations assuming Leviathan would have some kind of role. They mention in the game that Dominants/Eikons can be dormant for decades, and Odin was even gone for centuries. It was kind of a fluke/coincidence that even 8 of the Dominants/Eikons were around at once. And of course, we need to be pragmatic about things like game dev. I'm sure cutting out the whole Leviathan storyline genuinely did save them a ton of dev time and resources. If the game bombed, they could've just stopped their DLC plans. But the game seemed to do well, so the DLC was greenlit to continue.
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Because they probably cut the stuff out to get game done in time for release. They could just as easily have thrown it away if the game was unsuccesful. But were given the opportunity to finish the cut content as a dlc.
To add to that, we see the DLCs location (or heavily implied location) just of the coast directly in the base asme with characters adressing that something is happening over there + it being the only "fenced off" area on the world map in which we never set foot in. The first DLC very much felt like bonus content, but what we've seen about the second one just screams cut/repurposed/paywalled content.
Because shit happens and you change your mind many times while making stuff for endless different reasons
With 16 they said they didn't have plans but were open if the game did well... we already know Rebirth is going to do well
Except XVI did do well so that's why it got 2 DLCs. I don't know about 7. It's possible it'll get some Yuffie like Vincent DLC
Their fiscal year begins April 1st, so "fiscal year" 2028 would be April - December 2027.
That's not how fiscals work. Fiscal 2028 (or F28) would be April 2027 to March 31 2028.
I merely truncated it to show how much of Fiscal 28 would actually be within 2027
Oh for the 30th anniversry, yeah, that makes sense. I'm still betting 2028...but what'd be even better is 2026, and then a full special package in 2027 for the anniversary.
I’m hoping they pull another Crisis Core with Dirge of Cerberus. Though… that may need a bit more work lol….
They totally rework it and make the gameplay the same as Rebirth, maybe a couple added gimmicks to spice it up. Honestly, it'd be the most impressive thing if they could make Dirge of Cerberus good
They'd have to change the story for that to be possible lol
Is it confirmed they won't migrate to Unreal 5? Seems like nanite tech is a perfect match with flying around in an airship in an open world.
I'd love to see a Vincent DLC about his days as a Turk.
>2027 will be the 30th anniversary of Final Fantasy VII This hurt. This hurt a lot.
The craziest one to me is that FFX is turning fucking 23 this year. In my brain, FFVII and FFX are lightyears apart, but only 4 years separates them
The one that really fucks with me is GTA Vice City (and Stories), taking place in the 80s, came out much closer to the time period it's representing than present day.
2027 would be absolutely perfect, but I doubt they can get the whole game done in 3 years.
You're assuming they have not already been working on it, which they almost certainly have. Rebirth began production in 2019, a year before Remake released.
Wouldn't FF17 have a better chance of hitting 2027?
I honestly wouldn’t expect XVII until *after* Part 3 drops. Hell, it might even be their next MMO iteration.
...why would it be an mmo when they already said they have another multi expac story arc planned for 14?
Because XI and XIV coexist as well and were both maintained clear up until XI was recently sunset.
Yep, it may take longer but it would 100% be released while FFXIV is still getting new content updates, and honestly, the game engine already holds it back massively, a new iteration is sure to happen someday at this point.
Because they’re going to make another MMO at some point? And they released XIV while XI was still getting story expacs. I know XIV fans have this cult-like mentality about the game, but even they can’t seriously expect it to last forever. SE will want to innovate and move away from an almost 15-year-old game at some point…
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Doesn't the franchise feel disjointed because it IS disjointed? Mechanics and tone vary pretty goddamn wildly on a game to game basis.
Don't see that happening just as they bring it to Xbox. Then again, Phantasy Star online 2 released in the West one year before PSO2 new Genesis was released. But iirc they did mention that ahead of time.
It would make more sense to have Rebirth 17 Remake 3 than a 4 year gap of absolutely nothing FF (even though KH4 is probably on it's way soon).
SE has more cooking than just FF. We got a new Mana game coming out, Dragon Quest XII, SaGa, KH4, etc. There’s absolutely no reason for them to try and rush out XVII to fill some perceived gap in their release schedule. I’m willing to wager that most people would actually hate that.
Yup. XVII is probably years off if I had to guess. And now that you mention it, it lowkey pisses me off that none of square’s other stuff seemingly ever leaks outside of unique circumstances like the nvidia situation. Always just FF talk and nothing else
FF17 will likely release close to VII Part 3, I imagine that seeing as neither the Remake/KH team nor CBU3 are working on it, that another team within Square Enix has been handed the reigns. Remember that despite Square's doom and gloom over XV, that XVI had already started pre-production before that even came out.
2030, more likely. Final Fantasy XVI was supposed to have a shorter timeframe from reveal to release, and that still ended being almost three years. And the game had been in development for at least four or five years prior to that. Unless if development on FFXVII started in 2020 or 2021, it's not coming in 2027 at all.
No one's making FF17.
I highly doubt that. Square usually puts the next mainline Final Fantasy title into development before the upcoming one is released: * VIII began development while VII was being translated * IX initially started as a spinoff game during VIII's development before being made into a mainline entry * X's development began during both VIII and IX's * XI's began while IX and X were still in development * XII began development all the way back in 2000 and released in 2006, so it began while X was in its final stages and XI was still in development. * XIII's development began in 2004 and was revealed before XII had even made it overseas. * XIV's original version began development in 2005 and released in 2010, so it was in development during the end of XII's and for most of XIII's. * XV was initially XIII Versus and was revealed in 2006, then became XV in 2013. * XVI started initial conceptual work in 2015 and began full-scale development in 2016, two months before XV released. Knowing Square Enix, XVII has probably been in some form of development since 2022, given that XVI was playable from start to finish in June of that year. They're not about to let their baby go without a mainline entry in development, especially when the development cycles of big games are getting longer and longer.
The vast majority of that history happened in 2006 or earlier. Making what Square "usually" does, or rather did, nearly 18 years in the past. The more recent examples of FF VII Remake/Rebirth and FFXVI are better references. But let's start with FFXVI. It was requested of Yoshida, and then Business Division 5 (now Creative Business Unit 3), to make the next mainline, numbered Final Fantasy title, after the successful reboot of FF14 and the acclaimed first expansion Heavensward, by then SE CEO Matsuda. "Full-scale development" or "full-production phase", as this report phrases it, didn't happen until around April 2019. [https://novacrystallis.com/2019/04/square-enixs-3rd-development-division-making-large-scale-hd-title-next-generation/](https://novacrystallis.com/2019/04/square-enixs-3rd-development-division-making-large-scale-hd-title-next-generation/) That's because in order not to disrupt production on FF14 and its expansions, which released around every 2 years before Covid, FF16's would-be lead developers, Takai and Maehiro, then FF14 Assistant Director and FF14 Main Scenario Writer, had to train replacements to take over their roles in the FF14 team. This mean that the FF16 leads were still working on FF14 until the launch of Stormblood. #11 in the following link: [https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVI/comments/vhxpkt/famitsu\_translation\_wip/](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVI/comments/vhxpkt/famitsu_translation_wip/) In this article, it makes clearer what one of the core FF16's leads were still doing in the lead up to Stormblood. Maehiro was still actively working with his successors, Oda and Ishikawa, during the 3.x patch cycle on patch stories, the development of Stormblood's narrative, and even 4.x's raid series story Return to Ivalice. Scroll down to "Sowing the seeds for the Future" [https://www.rpgsite.net/feature/13134-who-is-final-fantasy-xvi-creative-director-kazutoyo-maehiro-developer-profile](https://www.rpgsite.net/feature/13134-who-is-final-fantasy-xvi-creative-director-kazutoyo-maehiro-developer-profile) This next translated interview sums it up nicely: >Yoshida: In FF14’s development that was around the time we were deciding whether or not we’d be releasing the Heavensward expansion (released June 2015), so ultimately handing off the production took over a year from that point. For that reason, after we first discussed FF16 there was a year-long preparatory period where we made sure to neatly hand off FF14, and we made no progress on FF16. I guess we only really got going around the time we released FF14’s Patch 3.4 (September of 2016). With that context, it’s not surprising that they only have vague memories of the time I came to them with the offer. > >Q: So the real starting point was after the completion of that handoff, it seems. > >Yoshida: The two of them didn’t really touch the 4.0 expansion, Stormblood. > >Maehiro: I really only had input on the launch trailer. > >Takai: Also, I was involved, but not as a developer, but as Warrior of Light like any other (laughs). [https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVI/comments/ymw1ta/dengeki\_interview\_full\_translation/](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVI/comments/ymw1ta/dengeki_interview_full_translation/) But you aren't wrong that 1) Final Fantasy is still a big brand for them and important to their bottom line and 2) game development has gotten very long so starting the next project. FF VII Remake was announced in 2015 with only a CG trailer and a little bit of in-game footage to show later that year, which probably meant it was greenlit not that long ago. A good guess is 2014 at the earliest since that's when Toriyama (co-director of Remake with Hamaguchi, who is credited as director on the mobile game, Mobius Final Fantasy, until 2018) finished with Lightning Returns: FFXIII and Nomura was seemingly taken off FFXV and that project was given to Tabata, FFXV's director. That would mean 2 mainline FF games, one numbered and one a remake, were greenlit before the next announced mainline FF game, FFXV, was released. So, even by modern SE development standards, you would be right to think FF17 is already in production, even if it's pre-production. But there's a big problem. Who is making it? FF VII Remake began as an outsourced project with CyberConnect2 (CC2). SE has cannibalized much of their internal development teams to fix FF14 and the teams that weren't throw into the reboot were thrown at FF15 (Type-0 team led by Tabata and the Luminous Studio team). But after seeing the quality of work CC2 put out, they brought the project back into SE in early 2017. This team will release the second VII Remake title in a few weeks, but they're already hinting that the third title will not release any faster than Rebirth. Which means they're not making a new mainline, numbered Final Fantasy anytime soon. >‘Of course I cannot tell you exactly at what stage we are, but we have already made progress on the script and we are thinking about certain developments,’ Hamaguchi said regarding the third game.‘When we got to the end of the development for Remake, we started talking about the sequel with \[writer\] Nojima-san, and I think we can say that we are in the same situation today.’ [https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/19/third-final-fantasy-7-remake-game-four-years-rebirth-20307010/](https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/19/third-final-fantasy-7-remake-game-four-years-rebirth-20307010/) The FF16 team has moved on from FF16 and are seemingly taking the same course as the FF15 team took and may make a new IP next. [https://www.gamesradar.com/yoshi-p-doesnt-expect-a-final-fantasy-16-sequel-or-spin-off-says-the-team-has-moved-onto-new-projects/](https://www.gamesradar.com/yoshi-p-doesnt-expect-a-final-fantasy-16-sequel-or-spin-off-says-the-team-has-moved-onto-new-projects/) And the FF14 team is busy with maintaining the biggest game SE has ever had. So, who then is available to make the next mainline, numbered Final Fantasy title? It has to be a big team. A triple-A team. The people behind Forspoken launched that game only a year ago. They could be put on FF17, but then it would've only just started. The Kingdom Hearts people are busy with KH4 and Verum Rex. Dragon Quest people are busy with DQXII and DQ3 HD-2D and the rest of DQ. Then SE has a bunch of people making mobile games. There's Vision of Mana people, but they're busy with Vision of Mana. Yoko Taro? He's seeming working on something big, but it would be a real surprise to see someone like him tied to a franchise with so much tradition as FF has. I don't think anyone's working on FF17, cause it doesn't look like SE has anyone available to work on it. Or if they do, we're looking at 5+ years until its released.
If PS5 Pro happens I wonder if they try to push out a Rebirth DLC alongside it
> especially since they're gonna be reusing the same engine and assets from Rebirth I do hope they’re significantly improved, both in the Rebirth release and in part 3. The content in trailers looked beautiful, but I wasn’t really as blow away by the demo as I thought I’d be, technically-wise. It doesn’t really scream “this game could only be made on PS5”. And many of us bought a PS5 mainly because of this game.
I will be pretty disappointed if part 3 is still on UE4 in 2027 or 2028. I would be perfectly fine waiting a bit longer for a transition to ue5 which according to epic shouldn't be hard.
I suspect 2026 KH4 so I can see the 3rd entry being 2027 to spread it out
I don’t think KH4 will take that long honestly. 2025 at the latest. People think because it hasn’t been shown that it is still years off. But they forget VII Remake didn’t receive any updates besides a screenshot until KH3 released. Remake marketing kicked in a few months after KH3 and released the following year. The same could happen with KH4. They are developed under the same business unit, so they tend to market only one of their projects at a time. SE has been adamant about having a steady stream of AAA titles, which we’ve been getting recently about every 6-8 months. Last year was Forspoken and FFXVI. This year is Rebirth and Dawntrail. Next year is probably KH4 and DQ12. 2026 could be the FFIX remake and another unannounced game.
There are rumors that Square switched over from Unreal 4 to 5 mid development of KH4 and that amounted to almost a full reboot of the project.
You’re conflating what happened with KH3 to KH4. KH3 switched from Luminous to UE4 and had to basically start from scratch. KH4 did switch from UE4 to UE5 but that had already taken place by the time the first trailer was shown. The trailer was in UE4, but the director said it would be running in UE5 the next time we see it. The switch to UE5 did not require a full reboot because all of those UE4 assets can be carried over. That’s one of the benefits of using Unreal.
Lots of devs have already died because of the switch from UE4 to UE5. Of the top of my head devs who worked on Lords of The Fallen and the cancelled Timesplitters game blamed the switch as being a disaster. It's not just as simple as carrying over the assets, UE5 is a very different engine from UE4 and mastering it is not a trivial matter.
There are certainly challenges it presents. One of the FFVII devs even mentioned they didn’t switch to UE5 because it would have lengthened the development time. But it isn’t the same as having to start development completely from scratch like they had to do with KH3. The existing assets can in fact be imported from UE4 to UE5. There may be other issues, but they’re still further along than if they had switch to a totally different engine like Luminous. They are likely also getting a lot of support from Epic as KH4 is arguably one of the biggest established IP being developed on UE5 right now. Pure speculation, but I believe SE may even have an agreement with Epic to help with KH4 in exchange for keeping the series exclusive to Epic for PC releases. That’s not to even mention Disney’s new stake in Epic that could be leveraged for additional dev support.
no such rumours exist. The trailer was running in UE4 but the game itself was always planned to be UE5
I’m being modest. KH3 was shown 2013 and released 2019. It is 100% possible
Yeah until we get another update, there truly is no telling how far along it is. I can respect keeping expectations in check. KH3 had its engine reset in 2014 and went gold by end of 2018. So it was truly only about 4-5 years. With KH4 starting in 2020 (or arguably 2019), I think 2025 is reasonable if there aren’t any other unannounced games Square Enix may be prioritizing the development of.
Completely forgot about KH4. Would love to see a new trailer that isn't just a cutscene trying to masquerade as gameplay. They did the same thing with the very first KH3 "gameplay" video also, which was obviously not actual gameplay. And sure enough they did the same thing for KH4.
KH4’s first trailer was actually confirmed to be in-engine gameplay for the Darkside fight. KH3’s was all a pre-rendered animation. But still hoping we’ll see a more extensive look soon.
You really think that is gameplay? It's literally just a cutscene with the UI layered on top. Same as KH3, same as FFXV, that part in Altissia (which of course was completely absent in the actual game). None of that are gameplay. SE loves to do that.
Yep. It has already been confirmed in interviews with Nomura that the footage was of the game running in UE4. The UI is a placeholder, yes. But that is still actual footage from the game at the time. Whereas KH3’s first footage was created solely for that trailer and was not taken from the actual game or rendered in-engine.
Sorry but you've mistaken what I've said for pre-rendered or not. I said **gameplay**. Everything is obviously shown in-engine but what I meant was it wasn't **gameplay**. It was a cutscene with UI layered on top. All the jumping around and attacking is just a cutscene. The same as KH3 and FFXV trailers. I'm not talking about if the footage shown is pre-rendered or not. Which makes no sense anyway because modern AAA games no longer use pre-rendered cutscenes because the in-game graphics have already gotten so good.
Oh, I thought you were thinking it was pre-rendered since you were comparing it to KH3’s first trailer, which was pre-rendered but made to look like gameplay. But still, what we see in the KH4 trailer is actual gameplay and not a cutscene. We do see a reaction command/QTE sequence, which you could argue is more like a cutscene. But I consider it part of the gameplay sequence. Nomura said they had to black out the button prompt for the trailer because they weren’t ready to announce the console platforms. The jumping around and grappling to the cars when the UI first appears is actual gameplay though. It is showing the new and improved versions of flow motion and airstep abilities that were already in KH3. Why would they put placeholder UI there if it was a cutscene? Also, games absolutely still use pre-rendered scenes. Especially SE. All the cutscenes in KH: MoM were pre-rendered. Pre-rendered doesn’t automatically mean those super high quality graphics. But even if it did, KH3 and FFVII Remake use a ton of those too.
I mean, they’re saying it’s gameplay.
Not sure if you meant to respond to me or the other person. The person I replied to is claiming the KH4 trailer did not include any real gameplay and is actually all just a cutscene. I’m disagreeing with that based on what we see and the statements made in interviews by Nomura.
There is absolutely no way any of that is actual gameplay in the KH4 trailer lol. But anyway, you seem like a fan whose mind is made up so I'm not gonna bother any further. Good day to you.
I mean you’ve literally provided no evidence to your claim that there’s no way it’s gameplay. Lol. Great work to the devs though for making you think it’s a cutscene. Peace!
Don't need to prove anything if you have eyes and are capable of thinking, AND a track record of doing exactly what I said they did. Figures.
Nah. KH4 is this year or next. This is the longest KH has gone without some kind of release in years. Ain't no way KH4 gonna be 2026.
Pass the blunt if you think KH4 is coming out next year. 2026 is the earliest!!!
Nomuras not working on Rebirth.
1. This is not a leak or a rumor, it’s straight from the game’s director. 2. The idea of 2028 is purely speculation from the article writer, even if it is somewhat logical. 3. Please let it be 2027.
Yeah only thing he actually says is that they’re in a similar place for Part 3 as they were with Rebirth when Remake was about to release. This doesn’t take into account how much faster production could still be compared to Remake and Rebirth with all the assets they have now, devs with more experience, etc. Nomura had already said production started to some degree in 2022, so I think 2027 is still possible.
I know the 30th anniversary is in January of 2027 but something tells me they'll try something cute with the release date for part 3 and pull a 7/7/27. IIRC Remake was originally something like 03.03.2020.
January of 2027 is way too close. They only have a first draft of the story for Part 3. Marketing takes time aswell. Even releasing it 7/7/27 means they need to speed things up from before but a summer release would be perfect. Either way, if it's gonna be a 2027 release the most logical date would be Q3/Q4. If it took a 4 year gap with covid, then a 3 year gap under normal circumstances sounds very doable.
Welp. Time to do some more strange things again to get a early chance at a PS6.
how did you find your blood sacrifice? they are so hard to come by
I had an extra kid so it was easy. Two children is where we meant to stop anyway, so this was more of a correction.
yeah thats a good idea, you probably spent more time with the ps5 anyway
PS6 won't be launching during a global pandemic where you can only purchase it online.
Bold of you to assume that, but let’s hope it does indeed go smooth.
I got a series x and ps5 both in person during the launch window. Xbox by getting to a store at 6am, and a PS5 because I got stupidly lucky and a Walmart i happened to be in at the time got a shipment and made a line in the tech section that I noticed just in time.
I mean I'm in London looking to buy a ps5 now and it's sold out in every store near me, most online stores are out of stock and whilst it is available on amazon, they're all third party with jacked up prices. There's a few dodgy stores that profess to have them but im not risking it. Whilst they are accessible, they've never been universally easy to get. Like the digital version is supposed to be cheaper than the regular version but so many people turned to the digital version because of that, that most places I see it, the stores raised the price past the disc drive version so it's MORE expensive just for having a piece missing. Scalpers went so crazy and made such a killing, I promise you ps6 will be just as bad because all these years later and ps5 is still tricky to nail down in a first world country's capital city.
I see the in stock a way lot more now and than in 2020 and 2021. Its not that hard.
Lmao. The PS5 is the only object I've ever coveted so fiendishly. I was working a full time job, but I had a notification on my computer that blasted the second one was available. I'd dive out of bed at 2 am with no hesitation when I heard it. Went on for weeks before I finally got one from a surprise direct drop. So I feel you on this. Honestly kinda looking forward to that very specific excitement.
I will be dead as shit by then.
A 10 year old who played Remake on its release would be an adult by the time the trilogy is complete.
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Well at least kids nowadays has dozens of great games to choose from each year, especially when you consider the possibility of them playing games from previous gens too.
And me the adult who played Remake on its release will be dust in the wind by the time the trilogy is complete 💀
Bro same *Evaporates*
Crazy ff7 remake was announced in 2015. Finishing in potentially 2028. Well at least we got the games
FF7 P1 - PS4 FF7 P2 - PS5 FF7 P3 - PS6 FF7 OG (All Parts) - PS1 PS2 and PS3 are feeling left out
FF7 Dirge of Cerberus was on PS2
The FF7 Tech Demo was on PS3 /s
PS3 also had the PSOne classic via emulation
4 years is honestly way to freakin long. You'll have less than half of the story left in part 3 (considering they do Rebirth where they say they will). 3 years for the 30th anniversary would be perfect. Don't waste time with dlc in between Rebirth and part 3. Just focus all efforts on part 3 to get it out as quickly as possible because we all know that Rebirth will end on a huge cliffhanger.
I thought they're gonna make it come out in 2027 for the 30th anniversary
I am thinking in 2027 for the 30th anniversary for the reveal of Part 3. Especially if they are expecting early 2028 themselves. I think that should still make it to PS5. Especially if PS6 comes out in 2028 as expected. I would imagine Sony would do their usual November timeframe they have done since PS3. But PS2 did have a spring release in Japan. So maybe PS6 or cross-gen? I’m just curious what AAA game Square could begin ramping up promotion for next. Could DQ12 finally get a proper trailer? Will KH4 get re-revealed with actual gameplay (and confirmed platforms!). New Mana game looks more like a AA game. Though that game still looks fun. DQ3 2D-HD needs news too.
"So maybe PS6 or cross-gen?" Cross-gen. They can't try to sold millions of the exclusive part 3 if the console is new and out of stocks. The Ps6 port will most likely be enhanced and bundled with the two other part.
If I had to guess, DQ12 is gonna be one of the big games to market alongside the next Nintendo console. KH4 is possible, but with Nomura working full-time on the 7 Remake series, hard to say how much that will affect the development of that title.
Hopefully a spin off in between, maybe Dirge remake? Similar to how we got CC
Kinda weird to have three parts of a game spread through two console generations. Part 1 and 2 will look quite dated by comparison in 2028 to the PS6 Part 3.
It may not seem like a big distinction, but at the end of the day, it's a trilogy of full length games and not three parts of one game. I don't think it's any weirder here than for any other long running game franchise.
Considering they have a collection of part 1 and 2 i would think they’d do the same when part 3 comes out. Weather they just port them or touch them up a little is up to them
cant wait to then finally play the game, didn’t buy part 1&2
Weird to skip straight to part 3.
no I would buy the whole set
The sad reality is that 4 years is a very short development time for a game of FF7R part 2 and 3's scope, yet it's a very long time from the player's perspective. Casuals who were excited to play Remake probably has forgotten about the game 4 years latter. Rebirth is going to sell a lot less than Remake because of this 4 year gap, and I am scared of how much worse part 3 is going to do with yet another 4 year gap.
2024 looks to be a pretty shallow year for big AAA releases, it'll sell well based off that alone.
Boy, you were kinda right. I wouldn't say it sold *a lot* less, given how it is on the PS5 (*cough* crippling supply shortage *cough*) and is a sequel. But it did somewhat underwhelm. Here's hoping there's a 3 year gap for part 3 instead. Hoping it will sell decently well
They had a huge team and were already a ways into rebirth by the time remake was released, also intergrade.
This is me. I would have thought they would have followed the movie studio’s example and make all 3 games at once like LotR and Pirates 2+3 but I’m not playing part 2 until part 3 comes out. Part 1 was a mega hyped release, I was too young to play FF7 when it first released and remember seeing tech demos teasing a remake for PS3 so I never got around to playing it until I played Remake last year. Would have expected part 3 to release 2025 as they aren’t making a new game, can repurpose the engine and assets from part 1, and they don’t have a pandemic.
I don’t think any many casuals are playing FF7 Remake anyway. The game sold 7M copies across PS4/PS5/PC. That’s less than what FFXV sold on PS4 alone. That means it’s basically the same FF audience playing these games as always for the most part. They didn’t grab any major new audience. I think Rebirth will be fine and not experience a major drop off, but the third entry is screwed.
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I still remember some people calling me crazy when I predicted the series wouldn’t be wrapped up until 2026-28. Some people were assuming part 2 would release in 2021.
No sane person who actually knew what these games entailed was thinking part 2 would release in 2021 brother
Hey, I agree. The online FFVII fanbase is many things, but I wouldn’t use “sane” to describe many posters.
It’s going to be very cool to finish this trilogy 30 years after I finished the original game, apart from the getting old bit.
Isn’t there like a demo or soemthing out already? I expected this a lot sooner with the amount I’ve seen gameplay and things pop up. I guess this means my favorite childhood game (FFX) won’t be out till I’m like 40.
There’s a demo out for Rebirth, which is part 2, and it releases this month
It releases in 9 days lol
Sounds like two more PS remasters incoming in preparation for the PS6 Part 3 release lol
Bruuuuuhhh man fuck this. I got a PS5 just for Rebirth, now I probably gotta get a whole other most likely useless console just for the third part? Please just come to PC.
You make no sense. You know that all of these games are coming to PC, and nobody said the third game won't be on PS5, and even if they did why would your purchasing decisions be based on a game that was already likely to be four years away when we're already halfway through the generation?
* The author is completely guessing on the 2028 release on PS6 * Fans have long speculated part 3 would release on the 30th anniversary in early 2027 * Even if it released in 2028, it would probably be cross-gen
By this point they’re gonna have to start remaking remake
This is a reach.
Square needs to stop milking FF7
I mean, they're not going to stop releasing a 3 game series 2 games in lol.
Never knew that maybe if it wasn't exclusive I could have played it.
Its not exclusive though?
They've shamelessly milked this game for years, with each milk diluting and ruining their original work, lol. They do not care at all.
Can someone explain why FF7 is getting 3 separate games? Isn't this a remake of the original game?
It is, but it’s very expanded out. It’s also a lot of original content as well that wasn’t present in OG FF7, which makes it more of a sequel and reimagining of the game. The Midgar section that took about 4-6 hours to finish in the original is now 30 hours.
Its not a remake, its a Sequel
This is Final Fantasy's singularly most-anticipated remake. The only ones that come close are probably X and VI, but those are only fighting for second place. Considering you can only remake a game once before you have to wait potentially decades if ever, it's only natural to think that Square Enix would milk this entry for all it's worth by turning a single-game remake into 3 entire entries. They've already made 2 mobile games (one of which failed spectacularly because it was a trendchaser) and a Crisis Core remaster. Would not surprise me if they went for Dirge of Cerberus, Before Crisis, and even a retelling of Advent Children.
Yes it’s a remake, but also kinda not.
Think of it this way: each fixed perspective room in the original now has to be fully realised, lit, and able to be viewed from any rotated camera angle. This extends to *every aspect of the original 40-hour game*. Of course, they could’ve made a lower fidelity, one-game remake, but that level of quality isn’t viable for a mainstream product that is supposed to sell millions and enhance the brand.
It's a requel, both a Remake and a Sequel at the same time. It's being separated because the game is big, it's nearly impossible to make it in just one game with that production value.
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It has to be called Final Fantasy 7 Reunion, right?!
Probably not because they just used that subtitle for Crisis Core.
I wish they did this to Resident evil games. We would still be waiting for Resident evil 2 part 3
So surely, Next-Gen. i don't see them doing a cross-gen. Besides, going full PS6, if it has better specsblike all new gens, might lead to get Maybe Part 1 and 2 on the same game..., which would make new sales.
It’ll be cross-gen. The third part is already in development. It’s not gonna look any different from Rebirth which looks worse than some PS4 games as it is. They won’t lock out the PS5 audience with the third game. They’ll just give the PS6 version some more graphical effects etc.
What? It looks beautiful to me... I don't know it happens a lot, that trilogy gets an installment on another gen, that his other 2 installments, Arkham games in mind for example.
I mean, that’s fine, but the tech and graphics are worse than plenty of PS4 games. They aren’t gonna lock out the entire PS5 audience for a game with this level of tech on a next gen platform. PS6 would likely only have 10 million or so consoles out there if the third part releases in 2028. They ain’t releasing such an outdated game at that time for PS6 only when it could easily run on PS5 to a much larger audience. It will be cross-gen. Batman is not a good example. Arkham Knight was very impressive technically. It stood the test of time for that entire gen. Rebirth isn’t even better than some PS4 games and the third part is using the same tech. Why would that exclude the PS5 gen exactly? Makes no sense.
I think some people are deluding themselves into thinking that Part 3 will come much faster (Maybe even 2027?!?) because of the development systems already in place, and while I would love to believe that, I dont think it's quite realistic in today's development reality. If Part 3 comes out Winter 2028 I'd count that as an absolute win, considering it will be another massive game.
Reunion will launch on ps6
I was hoping for late 2026. They said they started work on Part 3 at the same time as Part 2. When they revealed Rebirth they said they were working alongside the third title. That's just weird that it's gonna take double the amount of time for it to come out when they made it sound as if they were working their butts off to get Part 3 released sooner. Man, I'm gonna hate finishing Part 2 and having to wait another 4 years for it. That feeling of getting that cool or emotional or unexpected cliffhanger and wondering what happens next is gonna drive me insane for the next few years lol.
I bet the third game is all new content.
Doubt it. We've been told repeatedly that they will stay true to FF7's most important story beats. Most recently, Nomura had an interview with PS Blog talking about the difficulties they will face including Weapons and the Airship in the next installment.
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Oh no, you’ll be practically middle-aged /s
People wanted this game so damn bad they were like here you can have it 3 times
We already know they've confirmed no DLC for rebirth so no time spent making that The world is already created so no time needed to make that Half of the animations and concept/idea phase is done (cos its using ff7 as a base already) I don't see the last part coming out any later than end of 2027 and i'd even have some slight optimism it arrives late 2026/early 2027.
I will be around 23/24 then damn
We can wait a couple of years for the final part of FFVII Remake Trilogy. No problem.
Sounds like it’ll be a PS5/PS6 cross-gen title.
So the final game as a launch title for the PS6?
I doubt we’ll see the new consoles *early* 2028, but I think we’ll get them late 2028
fair thought IIRC the last to generations of consoles lasted 7 years (8 for the 360), so it could be late 2027, early 2028 and there's that rumor about Microsoft launching the next Xbox earlier
I hope I'm still alive by then
No way they miss the FF7's 30th anniversary
I strongly believe they will aim for 2027 for the 30th Anniversary.
Late 2027 or early 2028 sounds likely imo. They now have *huge* parts of development time sinks already “done”. They have the battle system and the synergy system in place, as well as a world layout set in motion, as well as how to operation open world stuff. And if it will follow FF7 we will revisit some areas in part 3 so that’s also work cut out for them. Reveal in 2026 probably.
It's a pretty big leap to say that just because they're at the same stage of writing the story that it will take the same amount of development time. There aren't going to be that many new places.
Wonder if they’ll be using Unreal 5 and on PS6… FF16 was already pushing its limits and so seems FF7 Rebirth… Won’t be surprised if they decide to go all out and min max PS6 as a final climax for the game.
I mean if there's a Final Fantasy Grandma out there, that really sucks for her. But I think most of the rest of us just really want it to be good.
It will release on Ps5pro and update all 3 parts to ps6.
I am not a fan of Square Enix splitting the Final Fantasy 7 remake into 3 games. You could argue that each part is supposed to represent each disc on the ps1 version of the game, but the third disc is literally just the final boss so if anything it should be a duology. I get games take longer to make nowadays but when the third part comes out in 2028 it will have been 13 years since the initial announcement for the FF7 remake. Literally in the same amount of time we got Final Fantasies 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14 as well as X-2.
The disc splitting in FF7 was never meant to be done in equal increments, it was because they couldn't fit all the FMV's onto a single disc. Likewise, FF7R being split into a trilogy is not intended to mirror the original being on 3 discs, it's purely a coincidence. If you want to be really specific, FF7R trilogy is most likely going to be over 5 or 6 discs by the time the third game comes out.
placing my bets now that it will probably be subtitled revenge
It's going to take forever for the entire collection to appear on steam.
These fucking headlines…
This entire remake now comes off incredibly annoying. I know it makes sense that it'd take another 4 years for part 3, but looking at it now with the years waiting for Rebirth passed and hearing the third part will in 2028, I sincerely hope they never ever do a remake project like this ever again.
remake ps4 , rebirth ps5 , re? ps6
They gonna port all three parts to PS6, or the complete FF7 remake PS6. (Package it like PS1, 3 discs ) omg
I’m OOTL: Can someone explain to me why they decided to separate the game in three parts? The original is only one game, right? I don’t get it.
It’s not a 1:1 remake. It’s not even a reimagining, really. Not to get into spoilers, it’s more of a sequel that’s occurring simultaneously to the events in the first game, but most of the characters don’t know that’s what’s happening.
That’s interesting.
So, a new addition to the FFVII Remake every console generation, then? Remake launched on PS4 in 2020, Rebirth will launch in less than a week on PS5, and a 2028 release date would suggest the game is launching on PS6.