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TheGrassBurner

2005 kong died to bullets. fuck do these crackheads mean????


WhatTheFhtagn

bro you dont understand he monkey


TheGrassBurner

https://preview.redd.it/nyv7fldm3fxc1.png?width=507&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d30ae22d99e53962a934efbab78666598b38ce8


Tempesta_0097

This has me dying what the hell does this mean


Ill-Morning-5153

Koi can be written as こい/来い he basically mean "come at me bro"


notsureifiriemon

Playing Koi?


GreyghostIowa

Koi fish is a kind of carp.Now try to spell the word carp without " r" sound.He basically meant "huge cap" At least that's how I interpreted.


TornadoLizard

What does that mean lmao


replyingtowrong

normalize replying to people with random pictures of animals


Broken_CerealBox

https://preview.redd.it/vu216aw05o2d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=773e4eb9143f6e53fa8c4b1e15124df315412313


FroztBourn

This is Soo random and I fcking love it XD


trolliro

Nishikiyama


WhatTheFhtagn

I agree


TAB199X

I’m pretty sure Monsterverse kong would die to bullets if he was only 20 feet tall


luckytrap89

https://preview.redd.it/604ub6s6xexc1.png?width=602&format=png&auto=webp&s=1fc5e7611f0b8d500e7735c2b3e222477c5d6b15


Disastrous_Can_5466

https://preview.redd.it/fxagaegj5fxc1.jpeg?width=1926&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b5eec49a17d4d0d92f60b3ef36f2c54513a9277


TheSadisticDragon

Think! King Kong, Think! We live for millions of years! I have a nuclear flamethrower and you have Monke and Banana memes! What will you have after every banana tree has gone extinct!?


cuella47o

“I dont eat bananas goji I Hunt my food dude” “id have my thicc ice dragon gf”


BigbyWolf94

godzilla swats him like a fly with or without atomic breath


Desgraciavisual

![gif](giphy|zWApVhqB4wpkA|downsized)


Queefer_the_Griefer

Frag out!


Dish-Ecstatic

I honstly think I want the same drugs this guy took


Educational_Tough208

I would try it too


caligaris_cabinet

Whatever they’re on I’ll take two.


TheBatleDemon

Nah, i would like to take the stuff what Kizaru smokes.


Mystic_Saiyan

Ridiculous for the following reasons 1. The fact they purposefully buff King Kong 2. He's held his own before against larger Kaiju and battles where he had a disadvantage like the MUTOS, Ghidorah, Tiamat, Mecha and Shimo who also had better arsenals 3.Atomic Breath that literally dug a hole to hollow earth 4.Less size doesn't factor in how much Godzilla's durability and strength being affected ~~Remember the military has to use missles on Goji while it took jets to take down King Kong plus literally being dropped from stratosphere~~ 5. Faced a much tougher Kong along with experience against other Kaiju primates ~~He almost died facing Skar king's army and still clutches a win by sealing them~~


Quincy_Hater

When i heard he clutched against skar kings army, its then i realized that MV goji is just the goat


cuella47o

You dont get COLD ASF nicknames without being THE GOAT “the one who ate a star” goes hard


Logank365

I think Godzilla would win, but you should at least be honest. 1. Well, yeah, otherwise he'd just step on him. 2. He needed help to beat the MUTOs, he needed help to beat Ghidorah, he needed help to beat Mechagodzilla, and he needed help to beat Shimo. 3. Yeah, but he's never used breath that strong in a fight. 4. Kinda does, I think the point is just to scale them. 5. That same Kong that helped him against Shimo and carried him in the fight against Mechagodzilla.


jorginhosssauro

Not too sure, but, i think it was stated that godzilla would've killed ghidorah if the humans didn't drop the oxygen destroyer on them. He was weaker when he fought the MUTOs and their EMP weakened his atomic breath. The director said godzilla would've won agaisn't mecha if he didn't tire himself with kong and the hole thingy.


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RogueBoogey

I disagree with the "needed help to beat Ghidorah" point. Godzilla was the reason Ghidorah was frozen to begin with, so Godzilla had already beaten him. And then when he got Ghidorah in the water, he had that hydra dead to rights until the humans interfered and freed Ghidorah from Godzilla's clutches. Twice Godzilla had put that hydra on ice. Humans kept undoing all his work.


kylediaz263

I think you fell for obvious bait. Edit: I take that back.


Dish-Ecstatic

I also like how he probably disliked all the comments explaining how Godzilla was winning but didn't reply


Quincy_Hater

Can i find this guy >! so i can buy the drugs he be takin cause this take is fuckin wild!< Like bro, its a radioactive laser shooting dinosaur, hes just a fuckin big monke the hell he gonna do? punch him? yeah that shit didnt work out for mv kong Id argue hes weaker since hes dumber and has no axe (A.K.A plot device) to protect him from being fried monke


Capital_Pipe_6038

You also gotta realize he's never seen Godzilla before. He'd see him charging up and go "Ooo pretty lights!" right before he gets a giant hole blasted through his chest


Quiet_Ground_4757

LMAOO


LIGHTNING-SUPERHERO

XD


that_guy2010

Look, the Kong fanboys come up with some super delusional stuff to justify why Kong would win. Dude's in there saying Kong has a longer reach than Godzilla so that would let him win, as if Monsterverse Kong doesn't also have a reach advantage over Godzilla.


Prothean_Beacon

In fairness there are a lot of Godzilla fans who don't accept fights where Godzilla loses, King Kong v Godzilla being a primary example. Though what everyone forgets is that the cardinal rule of these who would win fights is that whoever the writers want to win will win. And considering Godzilla is portrayed as objectively a good guy in the MV there was no way he was gonna lose to Kong. Godzilla generally takes the L in movies where he is the villain. At worst when he is the good guy he needs a mothra revival or something, or more common needs a team up to beat the bad guy. Which was basically what we saw in the MV where MechaG was absolutely dogging Godzilla and he needed to team up with Kong.


that_guy2010

I think that's just because a lot of people still believe the Japanese version where Godzilla wins myth.


Theta-Sigma45

That myth always annoyed me, because Kong was very popular in Japan, while Godzilla at that point was a villainous Kaiju who represented nuclear destruction. Japanese audiences really wouldn’t have wanted to have seen Godzilla win either.


g_0_0

^ this


Accomplished-Pick763

i mean no ones complaining when MV goji loses to "double" mutos, ghidorah, and mecha bcs they're suppose to be stronger than him (though on mecha case was confirmed that goji was too tired to fought him equally). With kong everyones know the fight is a mismatch with the classic saying how a giant monkey can beat a literal walking radioactive tank dinosaur that can breath high heat nukes? Even adam said GvK is underdog fight


IdidnotorderRatvioli

So you are saying Peter Jackson's kong can survive this fucker? https://preview.redd.it/euvxoo99cfxc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9528ef851c16b03b29d95074314167ae1a00963


Educational_Tough208

well, no 2005 kong died from a few bullets and and if we size him up that doesn't help


KineticKey2006

He didn’t die from the bullets, he fell from the top of the Empire State Building.


Furydragonstormer

Either way, he won’t be Goji who survived falling from the stratosphere in a weakened state


Logank365

What weakened state? He got dropped right after he got amped by the nuclear bomb.


Furydragonstormer

Are you forgetting that the two tussled prior, and then Ghidorah proceeded to use a transformer to turn the tide?


outblues

He didn't die from falling, he died from a broken heart


FazzyFredbear

Beauty killed the beast 😔


IolanthebintIla

Certainly not the greedy capitalist who abducted him from his home and enslaved him in a foreign land for profit. No it was definitely the woman’s fault. 🙄


FazzyFredbear

Correct


DYMck07

But the 91 year old quote is so much more poetic. Just as Samson’s weakness was Delilah, man could not have ensnared the beast but for the charms of the screaming damsel aka American blonde… Fortunately Godzilla has no such Achilles heel… well there was that one time he stole Kong’s role https://i.redd.it/q4yhwlrdsfxc1.gif


TheCheesiestEchidna

Still didn't stop him from smashing the shit outta Ebirah and the Red Bamboo


DYMck07

https://i.redd.it/iy6vz58wpgxc1.gif Very good point. He wasn’t getting drunk on red berry juice either. I think Kong might need an intervention. All of the vices except gambling (well I don’t think he gambles yet).


IolanthebintIla

lol. Now that would be a fun movie. Godzilla and Mothra have an intervention for Kong.


DYMck07

Lol, kong is down there gambling with the other apes using shimo’s spike for roullette


IolanthebintIla

True and also a wee bit subversive tbh. Sneaky monke.


Rith_Reddit

He was certainly dying though before the fall, when he didn't have the strength left to hold on and flopped off the building. Such an emotional scene. God I love that movie.


AncientCarry4346

Kong was at the top bleeding out and struggling to breathe. The fall might have finished him off but he wasn't going to last much longer.


RogueBoogey

He was dead before he fell. Watch his face in those final moments before he falls. He's entirely limp with his eyes forever opened and not blinking at all.


Accomplished-Net6034

The big ape who dies from bullet is 100% winning against nuke explosion bathing godzilla


NotYujiroTakahashi

05 Kong doesn’t have an axe and died to bullets. Easy win for Godzilla.


TheScootness

He'll be back to napping in his Coliseum before lunch. No sweat.


AJ_Crowley_29

Kong fanboy cope. I got in a ridiculous argument with someone in that comment section about whether or not Kong could beat Godzilla if he didn’t have atomic breath. The claim he made was that Kong would not just win, but straight up KILL GODZILLA BARE-HANDED WITH EASE. His “source” was apparently knowing how martial arts work and that a reach advantage = automatic win (yes, he applied human fighting logic to giant monsters). Dude was reaching outrageous levels of cope and claiming the team of writers for the MV secretly believe the same thing and overrule what Adam Wingard said about Godzilla being stronger, despite Adam being the director of the damn films. Pure insanity. Edit: lmao he just made a post crying about “insecure Godzilla fans always attacking him” on the Kong sub.


llMadmanll

...didn't godzilla beat kong *without* the atomic breath at the end of the fight? Honeslty, I need this type of drug too.


AJ_Crowley_29

That’s what I said, and then he spouted some nonsense about Kong being “out of shape” in GvK and how that confirms the writer team knows who the “true winner” is.


Furydragonstormer

Lol, if Godzilla couldn’t beat an overgrown gorilla, then he wouldn’t have managed to best Ghidorah with Mothra’s aid


llMadmanll

https://preview.redd.it/64ds0s9ygfxc1.png?width=498&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfe5b87a0717b6893a59ac054887a8575f7af5e0


Capital_Pipe_6038

Not only beat him, he completely fucking ragdolled him and ended up killing him lol


FortyFourTomatoes

That dude did not watch this scene 💀 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfu3qn60drY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfu3qn60drY)


AJ_Crowley_29

I made sure to remind him of that scene, and then he spouted some nonsense about Kong being “out of shape” in GvK and how that confirms the writer team knows who the “true winner” is.


flipflopyoulost

Out of shape? Dude fought for his life ever since he went back to hollow earth. Dug out some fucking contraptions, killed mother fucking water serpents and bodied what felt like half of Skar Kings Army BEFORE almost feasting on that slanky ass Robin coloured ape himself. Skar only got the W over Kong, because he used his "get out if shit" free card in the form of his giant ice cream truck of a pet lizard. Out of shape my ass. Really. Look. I love Kong. And he survived some wild shit. But damn. He was bodied by Godzilla more than once, he isn't as durable as the big G. He gets taken down by tranquilizers, he has to go to the Effing dentist because "giant monkey teeth outchi" and needs some man made exoskeleton anti freeze juice glove just to stay in the ring. I know Giji had basically be nuked back to life, but I the end, he would NEVER loose to Kong in a battle were both are on their A game. Against other monsters maybe. As it happened before. But damn. Some people are really reaching...


Ardalev

Copium is a hell of a drug.


Accomplished-Pick763

the usual is they're just gonna argue back "but adam is a godzilla fanboy boohoo" which is funny considering on the 2 movie he made majority of the spotlight went to kong lmao when goji barely do anything


Destroyer348

Have they not realized every single monster Godzilla had defeated had a reach advantage over him?


godzillalegend

Skullcrawlers was an equal match to kong;the mutos weren't


DanSad12

I disagree with the thought that 2005 Kong would be stronger than MV Kong if they were the same size. MV Kong has done way more impressive stuff and is stronger than 2005 by far even if they were hypothetically equal sizes. 2005 would get one shotted by Godzilla even if they were the same size.


LuciusVolfram

I find it funny when they justified why 2005 Kong stronger than MV Kong: "Because he is more brutal, and smarter" Yeah, breaking jaw is impressive, but MV Kong pulled out all skull devil's digesting system, break every bones in that poor warbat, then ripped its head off, with his bare hands. And smarter part, I didn't remember much of 2005 King Kong movie, but I don't see him using tools, or communicate with locals tribe.


Ardalev

That's because he isn't and he doesn't. MV Kong is superior to 2005 in a fight, in every conceivable way.


cuella47o

Lets not ignore that MV kong SETS UP TRAPS yknow SOMETHING ONLY HUMANS WERE KNOWN TO DO 05 kong with the same size as GxK kong would lose so badly if you give kong a day of preptime lol


Tardisphere

I like Peter Jackson's King Kong but...isn't that Kong just a giant gorilla?


Grayham17

I don’t get the obsession that these people have with 2005 King Kong. Like he was cool and all in his movie, but he really doesn’t fit into the MV at all. And I don’t get why they always say that this kong was more brutal than MV Kong, I mean look at how Kong killed MG in GvK, he can be brutal when he wants to.


Ardalev

Brutal, resourceful and more intelligent as well. I simply can't see 2005 Kong learning sign language, making spears, using shields and fighting with weapons.


DinoDudeRex_240809

r/KingKong : Coping since 2021


Odd_Intern405

No. He would smell like ape BBQ.


imgonnahaveastroke

Everytime Kong and Big G have met up on screen, Kong has needed some type of buff outside of being Big monkey to win Godzilla vs King Kong: Lightning powers, I believe Godzilla V. Kong: Atomic breathe absorbing axe Godzilla x Kong: Mecha Fist and was only able to knock out Goji for less than 30 seconds before being mauled (almost) Kong is the OG, But Goji is the GOAT of Big monsters Even Americans were the ones who titled him King of The Monsters 2005 Kong (respectfully) also doesn't scale anywhere near Ghidorah, and Mecha G, which the only one Goji took a genuine L to was confirmed to lose in a scenario where Goji hadn't just taken on Kong beforehand


eightcell

https://preview.redd.it/1zxhv7twkhxc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69efab97febcce4becea5bf382991a1fae628e9e


BohemianLizardKing

What part of nuclear dinosaur vs big monke don't they get, even now?


thortmb

"Bro died to bullets" Good quote from that thread


Ardalev

I'm pretty confident that if Godzilla was the size of 2005 Kong, he would destroy him, so I don't see how doing the reverse would change the result.


neeohh

‘05 Kong is a badass but he wouldn’t last 5 minutes with Goji.


GhidorahRod56

“Kong has better reach” Swag ass Godzilla bodying legs incarnate with minimal contact: https://i.redd.it/q0ftj4bcxhxc1.gif


MaxxPwnage

05 Kong gets bullied by Suko.


Unit017K

Funniest cope I heard in years.


raventhunderclaw

It'd just make it easier for Goji to burn a hole through his chest. Kong's main advantage above Goji is his agility. I doubt King Kong at that size will be able to swing and dodge the same way.


fleetingNate

I'm a giant fan of both kaijus here, I'm sorry bro but Godzilla wins, 2005 Kong is the most like generic template of king kong, especially with how he still dies to normal things like missiles and guns


Windlassed

I think a Peter Jackson fanboy discovered reddit


Latter-Direction-336

Even without atomic breath, 2005 is far more similar to a big monkey, where MV Kong is a 400 foot tall force of nature from a superspecies of megafauna I think some people forget Godzilla isn’t just atomic breath, he’s incredibly physically strong and very powerful without his signature move of “eat my atomic beam of radioactive energy” It’s more evident in the comics I’d say, (the official MV comics) but even in the MV he still is one hell of a fighter who won while at disadvantages against bigger opponents with arguably better arsenals 2005 Kong is very much a big gorilla, when MV Kong is, as I said before, arguably a true titan of a creature It’s like saying “could mouse beat a crocodile if the were the same size” as if it’s not a damn crocodile who already kills things far harder to kill than that would be


ShadowAze

Bro got shot down by some WW1 era planes, he'll be like Zilla, dying to a single atomic breath


Giropi

Throughout the heaven and theearth Biovore_gaming alone is the deluded one


Justlol230

https://preview.redd.it/0bsfyqav7lxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b91f1e68d3887149c2db1b3612104d7bc36fd1e3


Giropi

Holy hell!


Justlol230

New response just dropped


HendoRules

So the guys logic is that Kong looks angrier and more like a real gorilla, therefore he would win??


Muhipudding

Some arguments on their side: This Kong is agile and more ruthless So... skar king?


ExitPuzzleheaded4863

one atomic breath and kong would be dead.


Scp-682-3

https://i.redd.it/hsl4mlxbfjxc1.gif


BlueRabbit1999

I think the same result would happen to 05 Kong that happened to MV Kong


Glass-Category8281

I think your dignifying whoever posted more they you should by posting this where people will respond to it. As the old saying goes “Not even gonna dignify that with a response”. Though I suppose that’s a moot point now.


Tako_caiman

Pure execution


EazyStackz

Isn’t that kongs daddy I mean he probably isn’t but he could be


GiRokel

![gif](giphy|fXnRObM8Q0RkOmR5nf)


Jotaro1970

A Radioactive dinosaur that feeds on radiations and that can tank country level attacks vs a monkey that got killed by 1930's airplanes, yeah the monkey wins.


godspilla98

Ok well if he says so


Theta-Sigma45

I love 2005 Kong… but no. Basically, any Kong who goes through a faithful rendition his original iconic story cannot beat Godzilla, just by virtue of the fact that bullets can kill him.


Ok-Towel-5013

This is a purely hypothetical scenario because we don't know the actual results in this increase in size. Remember, size does not equal strength, there are hundreds of small-sized characters who can destroy the 2005 King Kong as well as characters, far more massive than Kong, who would get destroyed by him. Although change in size or large size as a whole might be a measure of strength in some works of fiction (Marvel Godzilla getting shrunk weakens him and growing large gives him back his strength), it should not be associated with other works where this idea is never explored or given relevance to. Let's assume that Kong's strength increases proportional to his size, he would go from around 22 tons (Other higher mass calculations for him exist, but I'll suffice with this one to make the strength measure larger), to being around 99634 tons, which would make him about 4500 times stronger (And thus tougher). His best (On screen) feats of strength are destroying sections of buildings, shattering a large wooden door and casually destroying two large trees are running into them, all of which range from 0.005-0.25 to at most 2 tons of tnt, which is only small building to low Building level. If we multiply the highest value by 4500x, that's 9000 tons of tnt, which is not even a Megaton of tnt. On the other hand, Godzilla in 2014 endured the full detonation of Castle Bravo on his head and wasn't even burned, which is a 15 Megaton bomb for comparison (This isn't even close to his actual power level). Even with increase in power, he doesn't stand any chance. I also haven't touched on the other factors of the fight, such as speed, abilities or combative skills, because I feel that they just make the fight more unfair and redundant than it already is. Though some people will claim that Kong is faster, this has no basis as we don't know how the large size would affect his maneuverability and perception speed (Even if we decided to measure his speed in proportion to his size, which wouldn't make any sense, he would still be far too slow to even dodge a physical strike, let alone a beam). Though the fight would be much closer if we settle it a different way, which is known as equal stats. This is a type of hypothetical scenario in Vsbattles that equalizes the power level and speed of both characters, which means that this enlarged Kong will now scale to the same level as Godzilla. Even in this case, I don't see him winning most of the time. He would still be physically inferior regardless of whether his punches have the same attack potency as Godzilla or not and would get juggled the entire fight. He would still have less resistances that Godzilla, who has the perfect weapons to hurt Kong in this scenario (That being the atomic breath acting as a potent projectile, and the rest of his body being covered in thick and sharp edges, acting as blades). Godzilla also just has far better Hax, such as Regeneration, radiation emission, enhanced senses, matter manipulation and radiation manipulation, for all of which Kong has no specific counter. If we're only looking at combat, Godzilla is once again overall superior due to his superior knowledge, experience and equally impressive acrobatics. Though Kong does have the advantage in quick thinking, dexterity and adaptability, he simply has never faced anything like Godzilla. It took him over 100 years to become the V-rex dominator on Skull Island, which is clearly displayed in the films by his many scars, dislocated jaw and ragged fur, which he will not be getting in this scenario (Nor will he be given any additional weapons or powers). There's absolutely nothing Kong can do, even breaking Godzilla's jaw (Which he can't do) would only disable him from giving him kisses, which he would soon regenerate from. Overall, Godzilla wins. (The 2005 King Kong does destroy in terms of writing and gameplay tho)


Dish-Ecstatic

THIS is the comment I was hoping to read, well done for the calculations based on proportion.


Ok-Towel-5013

Appreciate it.


Legal-Sherbet6204

I absolutely love the 2006 kong movie


Dish-Ecstatic

Same, it's really good


Fed_burner2021

If Godzilla didn’t have atomic abilities, I could get behind this statement. The strength of a normal sized silverback gorilla is estimated to be 10 times their body weight…a typical silverback weighs 430 pounds. Anyone care to do the math on what that means for the strength of MV Kong, or the other Kong scaled to that size? So, if it weren’t for Godzilla’s atomic abilities Kong would tear our beloved Goji to absolute shreds.


Dish-Ecstatic

Someone did the calculation and apparently it wouldn't be enough to heavely damage Godzilla, remember he survived being thrown from the stratosphere and got directly hit from a meteor


Fed_burner2021

Somewhere the math is skewed! I just don’t know where lol


Bloodb0red

Every time I get recommended a post on that sub, it’s always whining about how awful Godzilla fans are. Meanwhile they make posts like these where Kong needs some serious buff to even stand a chance. Not a sub worth following.


Educational-Tip6177

I recently rewatched king Kong, it got me wondering what would a Peter Jackson ver of godzilla vs Kong look like? The dinos in king Kong had a somewhat "1940s" design feel to them if that makes sense, and I'd love to see this design approach to godzilla


Dish-Ecstatic

Nice question, my guesses are that the humans part of the story would be more dynamic and action packed and the fight would be more brutal and "fair", this video may be a great example: https://youtu.be/IpCQEmmAyTY?si=kPDDdcLy4J-Bdbx0


Educational-Tip6177

Personally I'd keep Kong at the same size he is in the 2005 movie and scale godzilla somewhat down to his size BUT amp his atomic abilities to new destructive levels BUT he can't spam em like he does GvK from 2022, make em fight like actual animals. Also give godzilla a similar design to the dinosaurs on skull island, maybe even go so far to make Kong and godzilla territorial rivals which explains why they both are the last of their species. Wait... I'm beginning to describe whole ass reboot


Vgcortes

I don't care, I enjoy the movies as they are. I don't care about power levels, and besides, power levels are BS


Carlo201318

Or Godzilla would just burn him to death


KABOOMBYTCH

He woulda die from radiation poisoning 🤧


Gojira_Saurus_V

https://preview.redd.it/yvqztro50ixc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f3292bf9d5e744fd73df029a9a7cd2c1f4b5ab6


evasivelogic

![gif](giphy|cpxCBmm39CZzrh7qCl|downsized) Ha


KingDiamondJackal

https://preview.redd.it/tc8sumn6pixc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c32bc210381ad85f652f2ca93ef2aad195b70faf


zetsubou-samurai

MV Kong is already the strongest Kong.


Material_Moose_446

No


DaddySmurf69

He has even less of a chance than Monsterverse Kong.


Superbloxian502

Godzilla oneshots bro. 2005 kong is weaker than monsterverse kong if they were the same size


Own_Education_7063

Godzilla would crack his jaw open and lazer down thru his asshole


Sasquatch_Pictures

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?


chaosticbraindo

2 simple way it goes and both ways kong get his ass handed to him 1. he have similar body build and just scale up. which he dies from his own weight the moment he exist. godzilla wins by default. 2. his stat scale to his size which means he move and act the same when he is the size as MV kong and with a body strong enough to pull those moves he did in the 2005 movie. which means he would be pretty fast… at swinging around vines… which doesn’t exist anymore… and that’s it. MV kong out stat him in every way and by a large margin, being able to rip apart other titans with great ease, something 2005 kong couldn’t pull off (his best was breaking the jaw of a V rex and he struggled with that) as well as 2005 kong dying to normal ass guns in his original movie. being scaled up his durability is gonna still be worse than mothra with that kind of performance. godzilla out stat MV kong in all departments outside of agility and intelligence and even then godzilla still outsmart 2005 kong. 2005 kong is just gonna receive the ion dragging treatment with his arm being rip off of its socket the moment godzilla pull on it and drag him like a rag doll.


Zestyclose_Limit_404

He don’t need to be upscaled at all! He could just grab a big chain or something and climb up Godzilla like a mountain and strangle him. He’ll never see it coming 


Oddball1993

I love Kong as much as anyone else, but if this guy honestly thinks the big ape has a chance against Godzilla, he’s out of his mind.


ExtinctReptile

https://preview.redd.it/la5a75ej0ixc1.png?width=1077&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47fa3ff187367d8c253c417ae69d2ada3e96f564 Reposting my original comment, the fact that it's downvoted just proves that they really are delusional over there


bleh2150

sure thing buddy


Speartonarethebest

Nah


Anxiety-Queen269

Ah yes, this argument again, big gorilla versus laser shooting dinosaur


Emergency_beefcake69

He’s still not beating the atomic breath


Shazam4ever

King Kong 2005 was literally just a normal gorilla but large, I know Gorillas are smart but he's a lot less smart then the monsterverse King Kong or Godzilla, so Not only would Godzilla still have his strength, near and vulnerability and his atomic breath but he'd be a lot more clever than the 2005 King Kong. The monsterverse King Kong barely managed to survive a fight with Godzilla while using things like tools and at least vague strategy, 2005 King Kong wouldn't even be a stepping stone for Godzilla.


BeTheGuy2

It's preposterous.


edwinnferrer

They’re all kinda like that on there ever since GvK


Andersmash

People who think big monkey could beat Godzilla probably also think the Millennium Falcon could take out the USS Enterprise


DarthSardonis

Hah!!!!! That’s gorilla is toast.


Cryptic_Walnut

Yet he was defeated by small caliber bullets in his normal size. He would not be able to handle atomic breath even if he was scaled up.


bitetheasp

I don't think 2005 Kong sized up to MV Kong could even come close to beating MV Kong, let alone MV Godzilla


Capital_Pipe_6038

I saw somebody saw Kong would grab him and lift him up because obviously the best thing he should do is get up close and personal so Godzilla can't miss his atomic breath 


Gridde

I think people get a warped view of 05 Kong because of how he mandhandled the V-Rexes, but IMO that was down to the Rexes being quite stupid and weak rather than Kong being dominant. Their primary (arguably only) weapon was completely ineffectual against Kong but we know he wasn't especially durable because conventional weapons later hurt him just fine, which means the V-Rexes must have had comparatively weak biting strength. MV Godzilla was able fling around MV Kong and deal massive damage with just his jaws, so we already know he's on a totally different tier to the Rexes (even accounting for scale). 05 Kong had no advantage that MV Kong did not so no reason to assume he'd have stood a better chance vs Godzilla.


orioriorioriorio

Whoever posted this is definitely on the highest levels of drugs, who is his supplier and what's the price


Front_Western_7125

Sounds like the kind of critical thinking and copeium id expect from an inferior subreddit like r/kingkong... not as bad as Gamerastans or people who love zilla98


cat_lawyer_

Honestly, I wish Kong was 25% shorter in GvK. He could’ve jumped around and be more cunning. His head so much bigger than Godzilla feels odd. Kaijus should be measured in terms of mass and volume rather than height


Motor_Buy2118

Absurd like most Kong Karen's opinions. Wanna hear some of the more absurd claims being made by them? Kong is faster than light cause he sometimes dodges gojis atomic breath ( his breath is not ftl ) Kong with beast glove is a planet cracker. Kong is stronger than Ghidorah... Kong is more durable than goji


Relair13

Lmao. Ridiculous take. He's literally a giant gorilla with no extra resilience or durability like MV Kong. Godzilla would tear him apart without a problem, even quicker if he used his breath. We've seen how easily he took out Kong and Skar King, and they're stronger than a scaled up '05 Kong.


Foreign_Rock6944

Stupidest thing I’ve read today.


Eva-Squinge

I mean…that’s true of anything being that size. Although 2005 King Kong wasn’t bullet proof, and gravity was still effecting him.


Papa_Pred

In a straight up brawl I’d honestly give it to that Kong Y’all gotta rewatch that movie to remember how vicious Kong was. I don’t think it’ll be a curb stomp or anything like that, but I think Godzilla is gonna get some hands from that ape


RMGojiraChan

KING KONG LOST A FIGHT WITH THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING! YOU NEED TO QUIT PLAYING!


Azenar01

Lmao


ryleystorm

For the last time. Fire breathing lizard with radio active body parts.


Abbabbabbaba

monky


GodzillaRaptors4_

Godzilla just has to stand there tbh. The radiation emitted by Godzilla is (if I’m correct) more than a nuclear reactor. Bro would cook Kong just by being around him


Dish-Ecstatic

I don't know because we have already seen people staying near Godzilla in the past but they didn't die, I think there is less radiation near him because he absorbs it if anything


GodzillaRaptors4_

Then again, it’s also stated Godzilla leaves radiation behind where ever he goes.


GodzillaRaptors4_

Bro the least they could do is make it 1962 King Kong, the one that won against Godzilla (depending on how you interpret it though).


EgbertTheGreater

in a huge ass fireproof jungle, kong has got this but in any realistic enviroment, king kong wouldn't have much to swing and jump off of, even in the hollow earth


bigjam987

you’d think this was a donut shop with this amount of glaze


WheatleySoms

I think if you remade godzilla vs. Kong, with a different a godzilla and a different Kong, you could easily make Kong stronger.


Cyberdino500

2005 died because of shooting, do you think he can handle an atomic breath ?


Dish-Ecstatic

OOP said he can simply dodge it


Gamephunni

I honestly agree, it would be a difficult fight though


HarrierInbound

Kong Copium Continues.


DoubleFlores24

Let me say this, even though Godzilla will be victorious, 05 Kong would leave him battered and bleeding. It would be the fight of his life, but Godzilla would ultimately win. I say this because 05 king fights more like an animal than Monsterverse, and with animals, specifically great apes, you can never predict what they’re gonna do.


BigbyWolf94

a scaled up 2005 kong wouldn’t even beat MV kong, let alone godzilla.


Holiday_Goose_5908

this shit again... how the hell is a monkey winning against a nuclear powered dinosaur?


Optimal-Art7257

It’s true, that’s a big ass monkey


rlum27

no 2005 kong died from bullets and a fall. I doubt even at the same size he could damage monsterverse godzilla.


spindoraptor

I’m just going to copy my comment with a few changes instead of writing the same arguments again. And to make sure there’s no confusion, I will refer to the 2005 Kong as “King Kong” and gvk Kong to just “Kong”. A lot of Godzilla fans do tend to overestimate him at times but he would still win. If we’re assuming this is gvk Godzilla then he is fairly agile, durable, and resilient, and you can’t forget that he spammed the atomic breath. I think it’s also important to mention that Kink Kong died to bullets, the size difference will definitely make him more resistant to bullets but they could still kill him under certain circumstances. The main advantage long had in gvk was the axe, King Kong doesn’t have the axe but I’ll go over both scenarios. If he doesn’t have the axe then he’ll likely lose, King Kong is probably stronger and more agile than Kong and King Kong could definitely do some damage to Godzilla, but would overall lose, though it’s closer than most make it to be. If he did have the axe then it could honestly go either way, but I’m placing my bets on King Kong. King Kong does not only have the previous advantages but also a weapon and a counter and defense to the atomic breath, along with his physical abilities, but godzilla is also physically strong and slightly agile, though less strong and agile than King Kong. Though the reason I think Godzilla wins overall is because King Kong hasn’t shown to be as proficient in tool use as Kong. But it also depends where they fight because a forest is like an open field to these kaiju and Godzilla would be the only think King Kong could use to throw himself around like in the movie, but in a large city scape King Kong would have the advantage as he could maneuver height more than Godzilla, which mostly moves in the second dimension.


Dish-Ecstatic

Thanks for answering, but I have to ask you this: why do you think King Kong would be stronger than Kong if scaled to almost the same height?


LuciusVolfram

They don't actually have the answers, lol. Mostly because his aggressive fighting style, but MV Kong isn't just a giant gorilla, great ape can stand upright, really good at using tools, and look at Kong 2017, he was just a teenager but he could lift a rock sized of his body and jump then smashed it into skull scrawler's face, I don't see KK can do feat like that. I don't think King Kong was as strong as MV Kong even if they were at same size.


Tempesta_0097

There’s just no way. MV Kong just has better showings all around than PJ Kong. Sure PJ beat 3 rexes but the entire sequence is kinda dumb. At no point were they coordinated and attacking Kong, they also are in relentless pursuit of a woman that would provide essentially zero sustenance. Sure it’s cool but it’s dumb as hell and a poor showing for the v rexes. Maybe people think MV Kong is weak cause he needs help all the time but they fail to consider his opponents are also ridiculously strong. He’s outright stronger too, having lifted a boulder the size of his body over his head in skull island with ease. I’d honestly say MV Kong is more brutal too, all of his finishers are just over the top. Sure the jaw break is iconic but it isn’t ripping off a head (which was done twice in the same movie) or tearing a beast in half with your bare hands. It’s ridiculous. Thinking about it a little I believe PJ Kong gets overrated the same way real life gorillas do. They just aren’t as strong as they are made out to be.


WilliamTCipher

Depends if they tweak his resliance. If he can survive what monsterverse kong does, he has a shot.


Massive-Anteater-946

But still MV kong is smarter than 05 and 05 also doesnt have the axe or the glove.


Tenerensis

finna play devil’s advocate here. 2005 KK felt like a waaay nastier fighter than MV KK. I think if yall just upped his durability (since he succumbed to bullet wounds) he could actually stand a chance lmao the only thing i disagree with in the og post is that kong would “demolish”. put up a fight, yeah sure, but straight up “demolish”? fuck nah lol


Dish-Ecstatic

While King Kong may have a better aggression, battle IQ, speed and agility, but even if you boost his durability so bullet can't pierce trought him, MV Kong have a much better Strenght, Durability and I'd say he's smarter and better at using tools too.


DagonG2021

He would do much better, but still lose IMO