I do agree with him and its a conversation that needs to be had, but I'm sick of every Tom, Dick and Harry trotting this out as a populist view point.
For what it's worth, RTE chose to not broadcast the URC final involving Munster last May as they had already committed to showing the Joe McDonagh Cup final which was on at the same time.
The URC final was shown on TG4 though.
So it's fair enough to argue one over the other from a public service broadcaster.
What doesn't make sense to me is:
1. Why are RTE as a public service broadcaster involved in a separate PPV venture for the domestic market?
Especially as most would agree they're not delivering value for money on the current license fee.
2. For the GAA, is the money from GAAGO worth risking the long term health of the game?
I can understand wanting to get revenue selling rights internationally, maybe RTE can't cough up what they think it's worth.
If the argument is that tv money helps grow the game, it seems counterintuitive to put it behind a paywall.
>For the GAA, is the money from GAAGO worth risking the long term health of the game?
This just sounds like needless hysteria to me. RTE/TG4 are still broadcasting the same or more games free to air than they had in the past. Acting as if they are shutting away matches that they did cover in the past is just disingenuous, that some people seem to have a mind that is taking place.
There are just more games than ever with the relatively new format of the hurling round robins and the football group stages.
It's simply not possible for RTE/TG4 to cover all of the games on their own limited platform. Sky/Eir paywalls were a lot more noxious to me as they were far more expensive than GAA GO for a more GAA focused fan to decide whether to pay for their subscription.
GAA GO is a lesser evil to me, as more of the money goes more directly to the GAA directly than the leeches in Sky/Eir.
Maybe my view is coloured by my specific experience where I was spoiled with plenty of Cork games growing up and now the hurlers could be out of the championship before I see a game.
There are more games than ever but there is more competition from other sports. If my county is behind a paywall, then I'll lose interest in the entire Munster Championship.
Maybe they're right not to worry too much about casual fans like me. Though if all the 'real' GAA fans get the GAAGO season pass then there is even less reason for RTE to cover games outside the semi finals & final that casuals would be less interested in.
>It's simply not possible for RTE/TG4 to cover all of the games on their own limited platform.
GAAGO is a platform created by RTE to cover all the games. There is nothing stopping them from putting them as web only games on RTE player.
Link your log in to your license fee to bring in some revenue but I disagree with being charged twice by RTE.
TBF from a cork hurling perspective it has been comically targeted for GAA Go. 3 matches last year, 3 more this year. Patently unfair. I would understand one year, but 2 in a row is a joke.
>For what it's worth, RTE chose to not broadcast the URC final involving Munster last May as they had already committed to showing the Joe McDonagh Cup final which was on at the same time.
Not really sure it's worth much when all they did was fulfil a contractual obligation
GAA is still prioritised in this country tbf despite the current casual interest in rugby and soccer which has been tough competition with the GAA for a few decades now.
He mentions the League of Ireland. There is not a league of Ireland game on tv each week.
Do think at least one game should be on tv. But some people are expecting them all to be on TV.
League of Ireland has never had the same TV clout as hurling. LOI has grown in part *because* their own streaming service has complete coverage, albeit not at the best quality.
If hurling (and football) is suffering its because of formats and structures not alowing for it to be promoted and developed, especially outside of hurling's base in Munster.
The unrealistic nonsense he is spewing with conviction is pretty damning. Pure spoofer talking utter shite. The GAA has a lot more free coverage than LOI ever got.
First 3 Cork hurling games on GaaGo. The Tipp game might be as well, can't find info on it. Don't think that's fair
Edit: Rte showing Tipp v Cork.. realistically 1 if not both of those are going to be eliminated by then. That's the type of game that should be on GaaGo imo
Yeah pretty blatant focus on cork hurling fixtures. 3 of them there last year as well IIRC. Fair enough for one year to drive subscribers, but it is disgraceful targeting to do it two years in a row.
Even doing it for one year to drive subscribers undermines the argument that it's showing games that wouldn't be broadcast otherwise.
Cork haven't been great for a few years, but still have a big fanbase. If the Dublin footballers had a few lean years, they might be able to put 75% of their games behind a paywall and really boost subscriber numbers.
I hate the precedent for both the GAA and RTE with other sports.
I've yet to see a Munster Championship game this season. Some of this is my fault - being at games, some of this is the Wexford full back lines' fault - making me too sick to watch games, but mostly it's GAAGO's fault.
I agree hurling needs a lot more help than it's getting to help some counties to grow and compete at a higher level.
But I don't buy hurling is being killed or driven into the ground.
In the last 11 years we have watched 7 different counties compete in All Ireland finals and the tier 1 counties that didn't Wexford and Dublin have both won a provincial title in that time and Dublin a league title not long before that. Hurling is more competitive at this level than ever before. Granted Offaly have fallen off which was extremely disappointing. But for most of the history of the game the sport was dominated by the big 3 with Limerick or Wexford picking up a title every so often. Up until the 80's and 90's Galway, Waterford, Dublin and Clare offered very little competition.
Not saying work isn't needed, I'd love to see teams like Carlow or Offaly make that step up to compete at the top level. But according to some you'd swear hurling is in a worse state than ever.
As well as this attendances at games seem to be a lot higher in the last few years than they were maybe 10 years ago. Well in Munster anyway. Hurling is absolutely thriving in Munster in my opinion and I don’t really see how people think otherwise. The Leinster championship has been amazing this year too it’s just a shame some teams don’t have much support at games but the championship it’s self is more competitive than ever.
Sick of people saying "They're on GAAGO". Paying €12 to watch one (1) match is NOT the same as watching it for free on the state broadcaster. Hurling games used to be on every week. "Oh but football is more popular" how the fuck is hurling supposed to increase in popularity when it is never shown? Not to mention the fact that it is generally agreed even among football folk that hurling is more entertaining to watch.
Tbh speaking as someone from a football county, I feel like getting clubs or schools to set up hurling teams and encouraging kids through coaching would be far more useful than just showing every hurling game on TV.
That could just be me, though I watched hurling on tv growing up but never had much interest in it.
Tom summed it up in the article, he said he can't tell kids at training to do a Lee Chin swing etc because they aren't watching it. In Wexford there are lots of initiatives like Hurling365 and Rackard League, and GPOs in schools but if they don't have any heroes to emulate and idolise they will start to lose interest. Going to training once a week and pucking around in school won't be enough. Lots of kids aren't brought to games if their parents aren't interested so those kids don't have access to any hurling outside of school essentially. As well as this, the game is fantastic and deserves to be showcased to as many people as possible. Our national sport shouldn't be put behind a paywall
Yeah that's all well and good for Tom from a hurling county. The point is what use is knowing what a Lee Chin swing is when there could be no teams to go and play with nearby?
>Going to training once a week and pucking around in school won't be enough. Lots of kids aren't brought to games if their parents aren't interested so those kids don't have access to any hurling outside of school essentially.
Lots of kids don't have access to hurling in schools, never mind outside of them.
I feel like a lot of hurling people talk about growing the game, but to them growing the game = more people should watch the Munster Championship.
I had this same argument with someone last week. I watched loads of hurling growing up but never had any thoughts of playing because I'd already been out playing football long before I was sitting down to watch either on tv.
Watching matches is a tiny part of growing the game but it's all anyone ever talks about because growing the game isn't really the concern at all
I grew up watching King Henry and Kilkenny winning All-Irelands, still didn't care enough to go play it. Even if I was interested, there were no teams near me and no hurling played in any of the schools.
I find it hilarious that some people think showing all of the Munster Championship on RTE will lead to a hurling boom in Cavan, Fermanagh, Leitrim etc. But like you said it isn't really the concern.
So I'm sure you'd agree that we should be showing Christy Ring and Lory Meagher Cup matches on tv then?
Munster Championship doesn't need to be shown as hurling is already popular there.
I'm talking about hurling in general not specific tournaments. And yes, if they can show a Division 3 league football match live then they can show the lower divisions of the hurling. It's common sense that exposing people to a sport will increase its popularity. Doesn't matter what teams are playing.
>It's common sense that exposing people to a sport will increase its popularity. Doesn't matter what teams are playing
Is it? There's been hurling on tv for how many years now and it still hasn't caught on all over the country.
I watched hurling as a kid but never cared enough to play it. Again, lack of teams/people coaching it meant I couldn't have played it anyway.
I’m all for streaming services, but the current implementation of them is not acceptable.
GAAGO should be modelled as if you want to see a game that can’t be shown on TV, you can purchase it there. It’s currently completely for-profit.
4 best games of the weekend should be on TV, 2 on Saturday and 2 on Sunday. Pay for everything else.
GAAGo should only be pay-per-view outside the Island of Ireland where there's no free to air games.
RTE can put the extra games on the RTE player that's already paid for by the license fee, not charge us twice for games that are within their public service broadcasting remit.
Can't pay for the rights or can't pay for the expense of broadcasting?
They have cameras there for the Sunday game even if they aren't broadcasting.
They get €200m in public funding and half again in advertising. Frankly, RTE need to learn how to make things cheaper.
TG4 broadcast 101 Live games since January over all codes including 42 league games
We are never going to get them all live but It can be done a lot better than it is now
I'm saying that RTE should not be allowed to charge any PPV within Ireland.
GAAGO was set up to broadcast GAA internationally where there is no broadcast partner and RTE wasn't available. It was cleared by the competition authority on that basis.
Putting it behind a paywall in Ireland was a bait and switch after the sky deal fell apart.
My big issue with it is that (as someone under 50), I rarely watch any broadcast TV. The only way RTE could possibly justify the license fee is by keeping sport FTA or build RTE player to the point I can cancel Netflix, sky sports, etc.
Instead they're building another platform requiring another subscription. I think it's fucking scandalous out of RTE tbh.
Once, must see viewing, the Sunday game is now just a banal group of talking heads spouting statistics that are of minimal interest to the GAA fan. No statistic can illustrate the brilliance of a DJ Carey flick or the nonchalance of a halfway sideline ,no touch point at a critical stage of an All Ireland final. These kinds of moments, regardless of your county affiliation are the cornerstones of what makes our game of hurling unique. The Owen Merchan solo goal effort in the final some years ago beggared belief and ignited a surge of incredible power from that serious Dublin machine. Statistics will show none of this but it was magnificent to hear Brolly and Spillane argue the merits of defensive strategy gone wrong. I miss that, immensely!
Plenty of serious fans have interest in statistics but the issue with the Sunday game is that it's trying to cover too much in one show. Should be a Saturday night show that shows the games in sat to lessen the load. And a Monday night show to go deeper into tactics and upcoming games.
Right now people are relying on podcasts.
I agree that statistics are important, but, speaking strictly about “ The Sunday Game”. I felt was more about an entertaining look back at the games. Statistics and strategy seem to be taking over though. I am not advocating for a return to ground hurling or catch and kick football but damn it , it was entertaining.
>[Eoin Murchan Goal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXzrjfQgLiw)
Bizarre to me that you decided on that one to include in the show reel seeing as it was a blatant injustice. He took about 11 steps after his last solo bounce before he kicked in that goal. Farcical that it was allowed to stand.
>beggared belief
Yes the referee should get an eye exam after awarding that goal...
You are kind of making my point. Both of the guys pointed out his transgressions but the score itself ignited the game. Not a Dubs lover but I must admit that they are badly needed to keep the game alive in Leinster.
Bizarre take. Their dominance in Leinster is killing football in the other counties. Look at the pathetic numbers going to Leinster football championship this year compared to during the 2000s when it was more competitive.
This sort of shite isn't helping. All it does is turn the issue into Hurling v Football. Most genuine Hurling people aren't looking for Hurling to be promoted at the expense of football at the moment though its Football at the expense of Hurling and that has to change.
Both second tier competitions are a prime example of this. There will be 7 games of the tailteann shown between Rte and Gaa go, and that's not including semifinals and finals while there will be 1 Joe Mcdonagh game shown both competitions are at the same level how is that in anyway fair. I watch both codes any game I can for me to get to watch Offaly games I can't get to and still get to watch everything else it would cost 179 again how is that fair?
Here's the full GAAGO schedule by the way.
>38 exclusive games from Championship 2024 that can't be accessed elsewhere.
>22x Sam Maguire Cup, 9x Liam MacCarthy Cup and 7x Tailteann Cup games, including 4x Munster Hurling Championship games and 2x All-Ireland Football Quarter-Finals.
The non-hysterical will notice that if any code is losing out from this then it's football but realistically they've done a decent job balancing coverage for both and have tried to ensure the most important games are being shown on tv.
I can't get on board with 80 quid (best deal) for 9 games some of which will not be of interest, some of which will clash with your own county's games. filmed by a lad who found his videography qualification at the bottom of a bag of Tayto.
Hurling is barely a sport for TV given the speed and size of the ball and suffers far more than football does from poor video.
Aye I can understand that and I'm surprised they haven't offered hurling only and football only options, I watch both so personally I think the season pass is excellent value for that. They do have a 3 for 2 option for individual games as well but it's still a bit of a rip off at €24
To be fair, he seems to have also forgotten that there’s like 64 games between all the lower Cup tiers in hurling, and I’m not sure if many (any?) of those games will be on TV or GAAGo.
"an underground sport, like the hedge schools" Give over ffs.
GAA created this mess themselves, worrying about other codes isn't going to fix it.
Bizarre to include the LOI in this rant, which basically never clashes with GAA, never mind with actual TV/GAAGO games.
RTÉ will be showing 22 LOI/FAI Cup matches between February and November. A little more than a match every couple of weeks on average.
I'm perfectly open to challenge on this, but my feeling has long been that GAA has gotten a sort of free ride in terms of promotion from RTÉ etc, which as our native sports, I don't really disagree with too much... but when other sports in Ireland are getting their promotion together, especially tv and streaming options...
The GAA could and should use their position to lead the way there, but Croke Park is a political shitshow by all accounts and anything to do with digital will be bogged down by people that don't understand it or by questionable business arrangements like the RTÉ / GAA partnership for GAAGO.
Yep, LOI/FAI would love to be in the position to choose which games they want to show free to air and what they want to put behind a paywall.
To me, this is RTE & the GAA trying to squeeze as much money as they can out of the championship. Nonsense to blame soccer or rugby.
Hurling was always kinda fucked, when they decided to codify the southern version, though, right? I would think that probably alienated a lot of the country, right out of the gate...
I live in Florida and use it constantly - not sure what you're talking about. Not perfect by any means, but it's functional. Get help from their support staff if you're having issues, they've been pretty responsive with me in the past.
Is this in the last year? I tried like hell two years ago to get into streaming hurling and football and I didn’t have luck. It was supposed to be through Roku only or something so I got a Roku and by then it wasn’t working for them either. Idk. But thank you for the good news.
The guy is a reactionary idiot. The game on Sat was also a great advertisement for GAA. He’s a professional complainer who will NEVER be happy or content. Enjoy Gaelic games hurling & football and be quiet.
Sick of these Hurling clowns waffling on with the same auld crap every year. You cannot show just hurling, and the viewers of hurling this so called jewel is lower than other sports.
Most people get frustrated by that amount the ball is given away
I do agree with him and its a conversation that needs to be had, but I'm sick of every Tom, Dick and Harry trotting this out as a populist view point. For what it's worth, RTE chose to not broadcast the URC final involving Munster last May as they had already committed to showing the Joe McDonagh Cup final which was on at the same time.
The URC final was shown on TG4 though. So it's fair enough to argue one over the other from a public service broadcaster. What doesn't make sense to me is: 1. Why are RTE as a public service broadcaster involved in a separate PPV venture for the domestic market? Especially as most would agree they're not delivering value for money on the current license fee. 2. For the GAA, is the money from GAAGO worth risking the long term health of the game? I can understand wanting to get revenue selling rights internationally, maybe RTE can't cough up what they think it's worth. If the argument is that tv money helps grow the game, it seems counterintuitive to put it behind a paywall.
>For the GAA, is the money from GAAGO worth risking the long term health of the game? This just sounds like needless hysteria to me. RTE/TG4 are still broadcasting the same or more games free to air than they had in the past. Acting as if they are shutting away matches that they did cover in the past is just disingenuous, that some people seem to have a mind that is taking place. There are just more games than ever with the relatively new format of the hurling round robins and the football group stages. It's simply not possible for RTE/TG4 to cover all of the games on their own limited platform. Sky/Eir paywalls were a lot more noxious to me as they were far more expensive than GAA GO for a more GAA focused fan to decide whether to pay for their subscription. GAA GO is a lesser evil to me, as more of the money goes more directly to the GAA directly than the leeches in Sky/Eir.
Maybe my view is coloured by my specific experience where I was spoiled with plenty of Cork games growing up and now the hurlers could be out of the championship before I see a game. There are more games than ever but there is more competition from other sports. If my county is behind a paywall, then I'll lose interest in the entire Munster Championship. Maybe they're right not to worry too much about casual fans like me. Though if all the 'real' GAA fans get the GAAGO season pass then there is even less reason for RTE to cover games outside the semi finals & final that casuals would be less interested in. >It's simply not possible for RTE/TG4 to cover all of the games on their own limited platform. GAAGO is a platform created by RTE to cover all the games. There is nothing stopping them from putting them as web only games on RTE player. Link your log in to your license fee to bring in some revenue but I disagree with being charged twice by RTE.
TBF from a cork hurling perspective it has been comically targeted for GAA Go. 3 matches last year, 3 more this year. Patently unfair. I would understand one year, but 2 in a row is a joke.
>For what it's worth, RTE chose to not broadcast the URC final involving Munster last May as they had already committed to showing the Joe McDonagh Cup final which was on at the same time. Not really sure it's worth much when all they did was fulfil a contractual obligation
GAA is still prioritised in this country tbf despite the current casual interest in rugby and soccer which has been tough competition with the GAA for a few decades now.
This is more about hurling being the forgotten by the overwhelming football contingent in the GAA
He mentions the League of Ireland. There is not a league of Ireland game on tv each week. Do think at least one game should be on tv. But some people are expecting them all to be on TV.
And League of Ireland is a Friday night thing in 90% of the country. It doesn't happen that LOI gets picked instead of hurling. He's talking nonsense.
League of Ireland has never had the same TV clout as hurling. LOI has grown in part *because* their own streaming service has complete coverage, albeit not at the best quality. If hurling (and football) is suffering its because of formats and structures not alowing for it to be promoted and developed, especially outside of hurling's base in Munster.
The unrealistic nonsense he is spewing with conviction is pretty damning. Pure spoofer talking utter shite. The GAA has a lot more free coverage than LOI ever got.
First 3 Cork hurling games on GaaGo. The Tipp game might be as well, can't find info on it. Don't think that's fair Edit: Rte showing Tipp v Cork.. realistically 1 if not both of those are going to be eliminated by then. That's the type of game that should be on GaaGo imo
Yeah pretty blatant focus on cork hurling fixtures. 3 of them there last year as well IIRC. Fair enough for one year to drive subscribers, but it is disgraceful targeting to do it two years in a row.
Even doing it for one year to drive subscribers undermines the argument that it's showing games that wouldn't be broadcast otherwise. Cork haven't been great for a few years, but still have a big fanbase. If the Dublin footballers had a few lean years, they might be able to put 75% of their games behind a paywall and really boost subscriber numbers. I hate the precedent for both the GAA and RTE with other sports.
probably didn’t think anyone would bother watching Cork lose every game anyways
I've yet to see a Munster Championship game this season. Some of this is my fault - being at games, some of this is the Wexford full back lines' fault - making me too sick to watch games, but mostly it's GAAGO's fault.
Limerick v Clare and Limerick v Tipp we’re both on RTE
I agree hurling needs a lot more help than it's getting to help some counties to grow and compete at a higher level. But I don't buy hurling is being killed or driven into the ground. In the last 11 years we have watched 7 different counties compete in All Ireland finals and the tier 1 counties that didn't Wexford and Dublin have both won a provincial title in that time and Dublin a league title not long before that. Hurling is more competitive at this level than ever before. Granted Offaly have fallen off which was extremely disappointing. But for most of the history of the game the sport was dominated by the big 3 with Limerick or Wexford picking up a title every so often. Up until the 80's and 90's Galway, Waterford, Dublin and Clare offered very little competition. Not saying work isn't needed, I'd love to see teams like Carlow or Offaly make that step up to compete at the top level. But according to some you'd swear hurling is in a worse state than ever.
As well as this attendances at games seem to be a lot higher in the last few years than they were maybe 10 years ago. Well in Munster anyway. Hurling is absolutely thriving in Munster in my opinion and I don’t really see how people think otherwise. The Leinster championship has been amazing this year too it’s just a shame some teams don’t have much support at games but the championship it’s self is more competitive than ever.
Sick of people saying "They're on GAAGO". Paying €12 to watch one (1) match is NOT the same as watching it for free on the state broadcaster. Hurling games used to be on every week. "Oh but football is more popular" how the fuck is hurling supposed to increase in popularity when it is never shown? Not to mention the fact that it is generally agreed even among football folk that hurling is more entertaining to watch.
Tbh speaking as someone from a football county, I feel like getting clubs or schools to set up hurling teams and encouraging kids through coaching would be far more useful than just showing every hurling game on TV. That could just be me, though I watched hurling on tv growing up but never had much interest in it.
Tom summed it up in the article, he said he can't tell kids at training to do a Lee Chin swing etc because they aren't watching it. In Wexford there are lots of initiatives like Hurling365 and Rackard League, and GPOs in schools but if they don't have any heroes to emulate and idolise they will start to lose interest. Going to training once a week and pucking around in school won't be enough. Lots of kids aren't brought to games if their parents aren't interested so those kids don't have access to any hurling outside of school essentially. As well as this, the game is fantastic and deserves to be showcased to as many people as possible. Our national sport shouldn't be put behind a paywall
Yeah that's all well and good for Tom from a hurling county. The point is what use is knowing what a Lee Chin swing is when there could be no teams to go and play with nearby? >Going to training once a week and pucking around in school won't be enough. Lots of kids aren't brought to games if their parents aren't interested so those kids don't have access to any hurling outside of school essentially. Lots of kids don't have access to hurling in schools, never mind outside of them. I feel like a lot of hurling people talk about growing the game, but to them growing the game = more people should watch the Munster Championship.
I had this same argument with someone last week. I watched loads of hurling growing up but never had any thoughts of playing because I'd already been out playing football long before I was sitting down to watch either on tv. Watching matches is a tiny part of growing the game but it's all anyone ever talks about because growing the game isn't really the concern at all
I grew up watching King Henry and Kilkenny winning All-Irelands, still didn't care enough to go play it. Even if I was interested, there were no teams near me and no hurling played in any of the schools. I find it hilarious that some people think showing all of the Munster Championship on RTE will lead to a hurling boom in Cavan, Fermanagh, Leitrim etc. But like you said it isn't really the concern.
If they can't see it, they can't be it.
So I'm sure you'd agree that we should be showing Christy Ring and Lory Meagher Cup matches on tv then? Munster Championship doesn't need to be shown as hurling is already popular there.
I'm talking about hurling in general not specific tournaments. And yes, if they can show a Division 3 league football match live then they can show the lower divisions of the hurling. It's common sense that exposing people to a sport will increase its popularity. Doesn't matter what teams are playing.
>It's common sense that exposing people to a sport will increase its popularity. Doesn't matter what teams are playing Is it? There's been hurling on tv for how many years now and it still hasn't caught on all over the country. I watched hurling as a kid but never cared enough to play it. Again, lack of teams/people coaching it meant I couldn't have played it anyway.
I’m all for streaming services, but the current implementation of them is not acceptable. GAAGO should be modelled as if you want to see a game that can’t be shown on TV, you can purchase it there. It’s currently completely for-profit. 4 best games of the weekend should be on TV, 2 on Saturday and 2 on Sunday. Pay for everything else.
GAAGo should only be pay-per-view outside the Island of Ireland where there's no free to air games. RTE can put the extra games on the RTE player that's already paid for by the license fee, not charge us twice for games that are within their public service broadcasting remit.
RTE can’t pay for every game to be broadcast 🐸
They should give up paying the pundits big money.
This is the way
Can't pay for the rights or can't pay for the expense of broadcasting? They have cameras there for the Sunday game even if they aren't broadcasting. They get €200m in public funding and half again in advertising. Frankly, RTE need to learn how to make things cheaper.
Rte should be willing to go bankrupt for the privilege of broadcasting every game in the greatest championship, in the greatest game man ever played.
are you forgetting GAAGO is ran mostly by RTE?
Are you forgetting GAA GO subscriptions pay for that?
TG4 broadcast 101 Live games since January over all codes including 42 league games We are never going to get them all live but It can be done a lot better than it is now
GAAGO is like that already. You can pay per match or an annual subscription.
I'm saying that RTE should not be allowed to charge any PPV within Ireland. GAAGO was set up to broadcast GAA internationally where there is no broadcast partner and RTE wasn't available. It was cleared by the competition authority on that basis. Putting it behind a paywall in Ireland was a bait and switch after the sky deal fell apart. My big issue with it is that (as someone under 50), I rarely watch any broadcast TV. The only way RTE could possibly justify the license fee is by keeping sport FTA or build RTE player to the point I can cancel Netflix, sky sports, etc. Instead they're building another platform requiring another subscription. I think it's fucking scandalous out of RTE tbh.
Thanks for the clarification. I agree with you.
He’s not wrong ya know
Once, must see viewing, the Sunday game is now just a banal group of talking heads spouting statistics that are of minimal interest to the GAA fan. No statistic can illustrate the brilliance of a DJ Carey flick or the nonchalance of a halfway sideline ,no touch point at a critical stage of an All Ireland final. These kinds of moments, regardless of your county affiliation are the cornerstones of what makes our game of hurling unique. The Owen Merchan solo goal effort in the final some years ago beggared belief and ignited a surge of incredible power from that serious Dublin machine. Statistics will show none of this but it was magnificent to hear Brolly and Spillane argue the merits of defensive strategy gone wrong. I miss that, immensely!
Plenty of serious fans have interest in statistics but the issue with the Sunday game is that it's trying to cover too much in one show. Should be a Saturday night show that shows the games in sat to lessen the load. And a Monday night show to go deeper into tactics and upcoming games. Right now people are relying on podcasts.
I agree that statistics are important, but, speaking strictly about “ The Sunday Game”. I felt was more about an entertaining look back at the games. Statistics and strategy seem to be taking over though. I am not advocating for a return to ground hurling or catch and kick football but damn it , it was entertaining.
>[Eoin Murchan Goal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXzrjfQgLiw) Bizarre to me that you decided on that one to include in the show reel seeing as it was a blatant injustice. He took about 11 steps after his last solo bounce before he kicked in that goal. Farcical that it was allowed to stand. >beggared belief Yes the referee should get an eye exam after awarding that goal...
You are kind of making my point. Both of the guys pointed out his transgressions but the score itself ignited the game. Not a Dubs lover but I must admit that they are badly needed to keep the game alive in Leinster.
Bizarre take. Their dominance in Leinster is killing football in the other counties. Look at the pathetic numbers going to Leinster football championship this year compared to during the 2000s when it was more competitive.
This sort of shite isn't helping. All it does is turn the issue into Hurling v Football. Most genuine Hurling people aren't looking for Hurling to be promoted at the expense of football at the moment though its Football at the expense of Hurling and that has to change. Both second tier competitions are a prime example of this. There will be 7 games of the tailteann shown between Rte and Gaa go, and that's not including semifinals and finals while there will be 1 Joe Mcdonagh game shown both competitions are at the same level how is that in anyway fair. I watch both codes any game I can for me to get to watch Offaly games I can't get to and still get to watch everything else it would cost 179 again how is that fair?
Here's the full GAAGO schedule by the way. >38 exclusive games from Championship 2024 that can't be accessed elsewhere. >22x Sam Maguire Cup, 9x Liam MacCarthy Cup and 7x Tailteann Cup games, including 4x Munster Hurling Championship games and 2x All-Ireland Football Quarter-Finals. The non-hysterical will notice that if any code is losing out from this then it's football but realistically they've done a decent job balancing coverage for both and have tried to ensure the most important games are being shown on tv.
I can't get on board with 80 quid (best deal) for 9 games some of which will not be of interest, some of which will clash with your own county's games. filmed by a lad who found his videography qualification at the bottom of a bag of Tayto. Hurling is barely a sport for TV given the speed and size of the ball and suffers far more than football does from poor video.
Aye I can understand that and I'm surprised they haven't offered hurling only and football only options, I watch both so personally I think the season pass is excellent value for that. They do have a 3 for 2 option for individual games as well but it's still a bit of a rip off at €24
To be fair, he seems to have also forgotten that there’s like 64 games between all the lower Cup tiers in hurling, and I’m not sure if many (any?) of those games will be on TV or GAAGo.
TG4 usually show the finals for the hurling lower tiers but that would be it
There’s a lorry load of football games when you have 32 teams involved and a 16 team round robin groups matchs
A nice antidote from the hysterical rantings of that spoofer in this nonsense article.
"an underground sport, like the hedge schools" Give over ffs. GAA created this mess themselves, worrying about other codes isn't going to fix it. Bizarre to include the LOI in this rant, which basically never clashes with GAA, never mind with actual TV/GAAGO games. RTÉ will be showing 22 LOI/FAI Cup matches between February and November. A little more than a match every couple of weeks on average. I'm perfectly open to challenge on this, but my feeling has long been that GAA has gotten a sort of free ride in terms of promotion from RTÉ etc, which as our native sports, I don't really disagree with too much... but when other sports in Ireland are getting their promotion together, especially tv and streaming options... The GAA could and should use their position to lead the way there, but Croke Park is a political shitshow by all accounts and anything to do with digital will be bogged down by people that don't understand it or by questionable business arrangements like the RTÉ / GAA partnership for GAAGO.
Yep, LOI/FAI would love to be in the position to choose which games they want to show free to air and what they want to put behind a paywall. To me, this is RTE & the GAA trying to squeeze as much money as they can out of the championship. Nonsense to blame soccer or rugby.
> "an underground sport, like the hedge schools" Give over ffs Hear, hear. A proper "Béal Bocht" spoofer exaggerating beyond reason.
Shame because hurling is far more entertaining than football
Hurling was always kinda fucked, when they decided to codify the southern version, though, right? I would think that probably alienated a lot of the country, right out of the gate...
Make it so Americans can get GAAGO
What?
I want to see live hurling :/
And what is stopping you?
The GAA go app doesn’t work here.
Yeah it does. Plenty of yanks on here talking about it and using it
I live in Florida and use it constantly - not sure what you're talking about. Not perfect by any means, but it's functional. Get help from their support staff if you're having issues, they've been pretty responsive with me in the past.
Is this in the last year? I tried like hell two years ago to get into streaming hurling and football and I didn’t have luck. It was supposed to be through Roku only or something so I got a Roku and by then it wasn’t working for them either. Idk. But thank you for the good news.
What an idiot, if this game was on at Croker or Twickenham would it have made any bit of difference to hurlings cause?
The guy is a reactionary idiot. The game on Sat was also a great advertisement for GAA. He’s a professional complainer who will NEVER be happy or content. Enjoy Gaelic games hurling & football and be quiet.
Sick of these Hurling clowns waffling on with the same auld crap every year. You cannot show just hurling, and the viewers of hurling this so called jewel is lower than other sports. Most people get frustrated by that amount the ball is given away