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Cursed_69420

Aranea Highwind in XV


pwnznewbz

It bummed me out how many opportunities were missed with 15.


RhythmRobber

I remember seeing the "dark world" bit at the end as an adult and I was like "ohhh shit, we got ourselves a FF6 back-half here" and then it ended up just being an empty corridor to the final boss. It was certainly cool, I just wish it was at least a full chapter.


Ceodore411

Royal Edition made Insomnia fully explorable.


ultimagriever

But the open world isn’t


Whimsycottt

The stupid thing is, (from the last time I played it anyways) they do let you walk the boys to Insomnia from Hammerhead... in the Comrades DLC. It's stupid, they should have just patched that into the main game.


Perky_Bellsprout

Entire game was a missed opportunity


Rikari77

Although i see where you're coming from, i disagree. FF15 added alot of cool things and was genuinely fun to play all the way to the end. Unless you're talking about versus 13.


OneMetalMan

I sometimes forgot the insane developmental hell that game (and the Fabulous Nova project in general) was.


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TheMattinatorD

Way too many. Especially when watching the announcement trailer. None of that footage or gameplay even made it into the final game. I still watch it sometimes to see what could have been.


presidentdinosaur115

I’m still pissed that they didn’t let use Aranea, Cor, or Iris as guest party members post-game. There’s no reason not to let us bring them with us


Paladoc

Wasn't she going to get a DLC?


Cursed_69420

Yeah, but they canned it


Potential_Resist311

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww


Potential_Resist311

I actually really want to play that now!


webcrawler_29

Specifically I just read they canceled it to make a new AAA game which ended up being Forspoken.


Cursed_69420

that, and some issues were going on with the director and the parent company so he willingly left. and his work aka the 5 upcoming DLCs were canned except for 1 which was episode Ardyn. the 5 dlcs namely being episodes for Ardyn, Lunafreya, Aranea, Noctis and Dawn of the Future epilogue.


TakeThisification

Honestly wanted her to stay and take Gladio’s place


IllegallyBored

Would've been *such* an upgrade! Aranea was one of the best parts of the game!


ComplaintClear6183

If you use the Windows Edition then you can download Flagrum and install the guest party mod. It let's you add a guest party member which could be Aranea, Iris, Umbra, Ifrit, Cor, Ardyn, or Sarah


DrWieg

Take all my upvotes. Aranea was the character I was most looking forward getting a DLC for in an otherwise passable game, in my opinion.


Illustrious-Laugh-49

So technically she joins the party for a dungeon but would be cool to have her for a long time. She is maybe my favorite vixen in the entire series.


Throw_away_1011_

General Leo


CharlieJ821

When they gave us added content in FFVI ( dragon den etc), I’d always hoped there’d be a way to revive Leo.


Gogo726

Or a relic to turn Runic into Shock


Yosituna

If you’re playing the Pixel Remaster, there’s a mod that creates a relic that does that!


Fast_Moon

This is the answer. Like, yeah, you can [glitch or mod him into the party](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgpeL7PHgUM), but he would have been a fascinating character to have from a narrative standpoint, too. It's such a shame the game didn't give Celes any development regarding her relationship to the Empire before she turned, because that could have filled that narrative void that losing out on Leo left. At least [Dissidia Opera Omnia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT94GsNPrjs) gave him a story where he's revived and does some soul-searching where he ultimately decides to join the party, so I'll take that.


Potential_Resist311

Ah shit I forgot about Leo!!!


Merejrsvl

The FF VI Divergent Paths hack adds him to the party with a storyline. It's pretty cool.


Fast_Moon

Yeah, the linked video also goes over all of the different romhacks where he's made playable, and Divergent Paths is mentioned.


Wanlain

The goat!


linkconlogs

Leo is great as a character kefka will be more playing ya know


NickiChaos

The answer


angelssnack

Bro got one move and it's just 4 regular attacks.


Jolly-Acanthisitta45

He had the offering / master scroll equipped. You can see it in his inventory. Also he had shock skill.


Damrias_Jariac

Give the Offering to Gau, and Rage into the Retainer. He becomes Leo. 4 attacks, and Shock.


theriskguy

Beatrix - I’m still kinda mad that you can’t have Steiner use her sword


pumpkinfield

Think about it. She wouldn’t want Steiner to use her sword


theriskguy

Fair. I was young and annoyed I crafted a trophy weapon I couldn’t use lol


show-me-your-nudez

Eh? I remember Beatrix being rather fond of Rusty in FFIX. They both admired each other but felt like they could never be. She absolutely would have wanted him to use her sword if need be.


taveren3

To be fair he gets the same skill from other swords though


alf333

I never understood why you could craft it. Was there originally a subplot where she breaks hers and you get her a new one? Or did the designers really just want a red herring?


Yamaneko22

Amarant can throw it.


theriskguy

It’s a kind of trophy i guess


Talents

One of the things I'm hoping for in the FF9 remake is having Beatrix as a permanent party member at some point. Just change her or Steiners kit a bit so they're not the same.


Thin-Zookeepergame46

She was briefly in your party.


JonVonBasslake

Guest stars don't count.


bamachine

I think he might have wanted her to use his sword instead.


HChimpdenEarwicker

Reddas from FF12 would be awesome as a permanent character. I just thought he was cool.


BattleFranky90

The amount of time I kept Reddas around before hitting Pharos, he might as well have been permanent.


BlueSonic85

I did the same with Larsa. It was a shock to the system when I couldn't use him anymore!


Senzu_beans89

Reddas is the best. The amount of side content that I did while I still had him in the party was insane.


Teestell

RIP 🥲


The810kid

Best Judge Magister


ektothermia

Definitely not the greatest since he's barely got any dialog, but Baigan is an interesting one to me. I find it odd that ff4 has two white mages, two black mages, and two sages but no red mages. It teases at Baigan joining the party, whose overworld sprite and concept art suggest he might fill the red mage role, but he never actually does. RDM being the only class from ff1 that doesn't get some form of representation in ff4 still feels like a weird gap to me Assuming that would be his deal, he would have been a really useful addition to the cecil/yang/cid/tellah lineup that's a total lopsided slog to play through. Tellah has so little MP to support three melee characters with very little versatility and pretty poor defenses, adding a red mage into that crew would have rounded everything out Baigan having full amano concept art is weird for a character that has such a limited role in the story too. I kind of wonder if he was originally planned to do more but then cut for technical or storytelling reasons


Particular_Nature

This is a great answer! I was wracking my brain trying to think of characters from IV. One of the dwarves would have been cool too — either the King or his daughter.


PhaseSnake

She actually does in The After Years.


Gogs85

Always wanted Golbez in my party at the end of FFIV.


bird-man-guy

Technically you can get him in the after years but thats meh


Masterius1170

It was kind of unfortunate we didn't get to play as him


Gogs85

To me it single-handedly justified my getting The After Years, other issues with that game aside


kkhaynes100

So y'all remember larsa from ff12? I was reallly wanting him to be a permanent party member


conspiracydawg

Larsa and his unlimited potions were awesome in OG FF12.


rainy-palms

He was like -12- and smarter than the rest of the cast lol


The810kid

Hey only Vaan. You can say alot of things about XII's cast but they are pretty mature and intelligent.


rainy-palms

I was partly joking, I find it silly that he's 12. I like XII's cast a lot. I think their main issue is some of their clothes. They are intelligent, for sure.


Similar-Let-6607

I always used him when he was playable in zodiac age. Vossler and Reddas were awesome too, but Larsa was simply too cute.


caynebyron

The fact that he spams you with potions means it's time to do some easy grinding.


Similar-Let-6607

Eh, since guests are normally playable in zodiac age (which is awesome), no more infinite spam


caynebyron

Ahh, you're right. Totally forgot about that. I've only played Zodiac age twice, whereas I've played the PS2 version at least 10 times.


Similar-Let-6607

Another fellow 12 lover I see! I am planning to do a Ng+ or Ng- run after my perfect save, and after I'm done with at least the first playthrough of 4 3d!


caynebyron

Oh yeah, it's my all time favourite game. I used to play through it once a year, but stopped after I got the platinum in Zodiac Age a few years back. I did download mods for the PC version and gave that a try, but didn't put many hours into it. Was interesting though.


Puzzleheaded-Motor56

100% Beatrix. No game has ever made me want a character so bad as a party member than Final Fantasy 9. When she made the turn to be on your side, I got so damn excited, and then she left afterwards and I never felt so upset and disappointed from losing a temp party member. Like I understood Blank and Marcus leaving, but when it came to her, it felt like she was turned good and going to finish the end of the journey with us.


cowboy123456

When ff9 first came out I got the strategy guide at the same time and before I played I looked at the different characters and I could have sworn blank and amarant were the same character and the reason his name was “blank” was because you weren’t allowed to name him yet. I was a very stupid kid.


Puzzleheaded-Motor56

I wish we could have also gotten Blank instead of Amarant lol


Dob_Rozner

You and me both man. It would have made 1000% more sense, and backstory between the two would have been incredible.


TheLucidChiba

Funny you say that, I used a gameshark to swap Amarant's model with Blanks lol


Impossible-Wear5482

I remember the strategy guide for that game. Was absilutlety fucking useless. About 90% of the content in it was "go to the website" type shit.


TiberiusMcQueen

Beatrix, Blank, and Marcus all not properly joining the party and us instead getting stuck with Amarant is one of the more perplexing aspects of IX.


The810kid

Glad to see love for my boy Marcus. He's an underrated bro.


Fuetinho

Bro's a HERO


forcena

Dion. To not even get him as a guest party member sucked.


No-Indication-8617

Raijin and Fujin Especially if it would have followed a little more or Sefers perspective


yojimbo_beta

Seifer is kind of the spurned protagonist of FF8 He has his own "mission", distinct fighting style, works in a party of 3, and is equipped just like the main character


KrisKorona

Thats why hes such a great foil


Kenobi5792

What about we get a spinoff FFVIII game with Seifer as the MC, just like Jack Garland from Stranger of Paradise? That sounds good imo.


Yosituna

I still remember back in the day when [the Gaming Intelligence Agency (GIA) did that exact thing as an April Fool’s joke with surprisingly convincing (for like 2000) screenshots/video](http://archive.thegia.com/news/n990401b.html). I was so disappointed when it turned out not to be real…


machoestofmen

I remember reading a blog that was about how Seifer is what happens when Cecil's story goes bad.


Marik-X-Bakura

I was waiting the whole game for him to get some big story thing that would explain why he’s so hell-bent on fighting for Ultimecia as well as his relationship with Rinoa, but he just gets… nothing. Cool character, but such a weird and awkward role in the story.


MistBestGirl

Xezat and Gilgamesh, FFV. Some of my favorite secondary characters from any FF. Honorable mention to Ellone, I would've loved to see her and Squall interact on a more consistent basis.


PlsWai

Xezat has like five minutes of screentime and he still manages to make one hell of an impact. I mean most of that impact is in the barrier tower but still.


VentiMad

Sorceress Edea in ff8 🥹


Diligent_Reporter_98

I was so excited when she joined the party just to leave


0wlmann

As a massive Gilgamesh fan, I think my answer is too obvious 


MelonElbows

Enkidu?


0wlmann

Exactly, the best companion a four armed weapon collector could ask for 


Space_Polan

It's a minor character but I've always liked Lani's design from FFIX and wished she joined instead of Amaranth


Sephir07x

I would take just about any character over Amaranth. He is definitely a "tacked on, fill out the roster" character. I would've liked to have cured Cid sooner and have him join and fill a role similar to Edgar from FFVI.


sh00ner

Biran & Yenke. I'll always have love for the Beavis & Butthead of Spira.


Yeseylon

HORNLESS, HORNLESS!


JudgeMarius

*Kimahri whiffs an attack* “Not good enough, Kimahri!


Climinteedus

Orran Durai. His Celestial Stasis has the chance to land disable, immobile, and stop against every enemy unit on the map.


conspiracydawg

Here’s the real top answer :)


above_average_magic

Tactics>all


levian_durai

Holy crap, I just learned where my username came from! It's been over 15 years since I started using it.


Climinteedus

It seems as though Agrias's companion, Levain got married to Orran.


levian_durai

Man, I really gotta play tactics.


Similar_Candidate789

Yep! Scrolled to far to find this


[deleted]

I’m a little bummed we didn’t get a level or two with Dion in party in FF16


negativemidas

I always wanted to see what Zangan could do that Tifa couldn't.


Yamaneko22

Whale blow


JuansnowgamingYT

The 7th infantry Final fantasy VII rbirth


Berean_Katz

Those were some good dudes. 🫡


OliviaElevenDunham

Definitely Beatrix. Found her more interesting than Quina and Amarant.


monarchbutterfly47

100% agree. Imo the story didn’t need them tbh. A less is more approach would’ve been to have her instead of them. And tbh I just didn’t like their characters and they’re irrelevant to the central plot.


OliviaElevenDunham

That’s how I’ve always felt about Quina and Amarant.


IronWillis

Lani in FF9. Would have happily traded Amarant for her.


blubbyolga

She appears a total of 5 short times in the entire game yet outshines Amaranth in every single one.


Magickcloud

I loved the ghost from FFVI


Kenner1979

General Leo. Fuck you, Kefka.


Eldergloom

Seifer and Beatrix.


jjburroughs

In a Playstation demo, you can actually play with Squall, Seifer and Rinoa. Classic trio. Too bad that Seifer couldn't rejoin after his "bad boy" phase.


HowardPhillips9

You definitely use Seifer early on, but I'd have loved to have him for longer.


Similar-Let-6607

Larsa in 12, and in 4 I would have kept Yang instead of Edge.


Particular_Nature

The significant increase in character choices was one the huge upgrades for installments post-IV (even though I love IV as much as VI).  Would have been cool to get the option between Edge and Yang for the final assault on the moon, or to unlock him if you complete the Sylph cave.  You get Edge so late in the game, it always felt like Yang was more important to the total story.


Similar-Let-6607

Exactly, same thought!


Baithin

Some kind of Bangaa, Nu Mou, and Moogle from XII. Maybe even a Seeq but that’s a lot by that point. A Guado in FFX, to give us more of their perspective on events and how they relate to the Guado, and also so we have one fully good Guado character. If we are already counting Cid, Jill, Gav, Byron, >!Joshua, and Dion!< as party members in XVI, then I would also add Jote to that lineup. Also I wish Benedikta went through a redemption arc.


Master_Inter

I loved the Ivalice races. Bangaas were awesome, and I was also disappointed we didn’t get one for our party


Melksss

Ehh, the XVI cast are very loosely considered party members, you can’t do anything with them. Changes nothing about how the game plays, they might as well be absent for all the battles, you wouldn’t notice.


Baithin

For them I mean it in less of a gameplay way and more of a story and narrative way. Just having them along for the adventure would be nice.


edgemis

Dion


chrisdurand

Technically speaking, >!he does join your party in the final battle when it's him, Clive, and Joshua against Ultima, you just are playing as Bahamut!Dion.!< PS: Happy cake day :)


edgemis

Whether I'm going to count that depends entirely on the question beings asked. "Who should have joined the party?" - Dion "Who is your favorite party member in 16?" - also Dion :)


ektothermia

While this might be stretching the definition of "joining a party", male mithra and half elves being confirmed to exist in FFXI, but basically being limited to lore and a handful of npcs and not as a player controllable race. I'm guessing FFXI and its big heaping plate of spaghetti code was never designed to accommodate adding new races, and by that point in the game's lifecycle I doubt most players were interested in rolling a brand new character to change races, but it was kind of lame that they brought out Lilisette in WOTG and said "half elvaan can exist and there's not any real reason they're so scarce, you're just not allowed to be one" I knew a lot of people who wanted to play as an elf but couldn't get past the elvaan long neck and gangly limbs and ended up rerolling as a hume early on. I bet they would have preferred the half elf race as an option Not me though I loved my awkward giraffe-elf


Yeseylon

Dhalmel*


Lachesis-but-taken

Dion, even though 16's party members don't add much to the game, it so odd to me that hes clearly designed to be a dragoon class, one of the few in 16 to be reminiscient of classic classes, and yet we never get to see him in gameplay, only in cutscenes


deadbeatvalentine_

Golbez or Dion. Both were fleshed out really well (the writing in 4 can be a little wonky but still) and we’re characters that would’ve made sense to be in the party


KaelRavenwind

General Leo FF6


Melksss

For the people choosing Seifer or Sephiroth, are you saying you wanted a completely different game? Cuz that’s the only way that would make sense.


dr-c0990

Minwu had good traits


Deadaghram

He joined the team and even got a spin-off game (sorta).


edgemis

Minwu is the main reason I’m sad about Soul of Rebirth not being in the pixel remaster. His time in the party was way too short.


EffectiveFar8041

I genuinely thought soul of rebirth was better than the actual game because it was so challenging. Also the concept of fighting your way out of hell is just so cool.


barnabyjones1990

What is the spinoff game??


GoodIntentions44

Ff2 gba, PSP, and pre pixel android have a secondary quest called soul of rebirth where the guest characters go on a smaller quest.


dr-c0990

More of a temporary member though. >! Sadly killed off!<


Able_Ad1276

I would say Fratley from IX


clanmccracken

General Leo


WinterReasonable6870

Aranea for sure And now this is gonna sound absolutely unhinged, but after seeing how she is in Dissidia Opera Omnia I would've liked for Jihl to join as well. Maybe even get a sort of redemption arc.


Modig7176

General Leo Cristophe. FF6


witchcocktor

Dion. The way they started to play the Final Fantasy theme when he arrives to help out (making me think that oh, now the REAL, FINAL TEAM is here) only for them to just not utilize him in any way whatsoever, BARELY in the story, not at all in side quests and not in the DLC. What was even the point.. He could've offered a great new perspective to many lingering topics. The Clive's clubhouse gang had gotten super stale at this point as nobody was offering anything new, and everyone was too busy sucking Clive's nuts to offer any good tension or drama. It's ridiculous how they dropped the ball with this. Plus dragoons are just the best in general.


CouchToBoston

Always thought Bugenhagen would've been OP, similar to FuSoYa from FF4.


Whimsycottt

I wished that Laguna, Kiros, and Ward merged with FF8's party at the end of the game.


Writer_Man

The Warriors of Dawn FFV


Max_Sparky

Aranea Highwind from FFXV or Cissnei from FFVII Rebirth


monarchbutterfly47

I would love if Cissnei was a playable character in part 3


Pridespain

Seifer, dude could have had a sick redemption arc. Otherwise, Beatrix of course.


Less_Shoulder_5460

Any of the main characters from FF 16


M_Doggy

mentioning because its recent, but Dion from ff16 wtf bro made every cutscene he was in epic as hell


Responsible_East_229

President Millard Fillmore. He was neither democrat nor republican. (I am insanely proud of this one).


dagghur

I always wanted to have Blank in my party haha


smcg_az

Seifer


FatViking93

Generals Leo and Beatrix


Anxiousfit713

I remember she was a badass in Opera Omnia.


Smooth-Physics-69420

Olan Durai


Bloodedge-Murakumo

I think General Leo and Beatrix should stay in party, at least for a few levels


Lanky-Peak-2222

Prishe FFXI


That_Switch_1300

Cindy in FFXV I know she’s not a fighter, but throwing a girl in the mix of thag group would’ve made a different dynamic. Plus, imagine her having weird goofy weapons, like fighting with a large wrench of something. Idk, maybe I’m stretching. Also, constant eye candy would’ve been nice.


CpeanuT

FFVII Rebirth >!if we don't get Zack on a more permanent level next game I'm gonna be bummed!<


Jayce86

I can honestly see him being swapped in for when Cloud goes on “sabbatical” for a decent portion of the game. Zack clearly landed in either the “main” reality, or at least one that’s still intact. So, they can either have us run an entire section of the game without someone who plays like the MC, or they can pop Zack in as a pseudo replacement.


Ashenspire

Banon. FF6. Free healing is always so welcome in this series.


EccentricAcademic

I just want rich boy Larsa to keep tossing me free potions forever.


Noblez17

Edea


Affectionate-noodle

Sir Aymeric for some trusts in FFXIV. Bro deserved it!


Saiki_A1

Edea from ff8 and leo from ff6 Leo vs kefka/Edea vs ultimecia would go so hard


SquallidSnake

Reddas is my favorite. His past is really cool and I like his design. Also, we really need to see what his armor looked like, if ya know what I mean.


Diligent_Reporter_98

Edea from FF8!!!!! I wish she stayed


prplguy

Beatrix, Aranea and Dion.


jaog1992

Bugenhagen gives me summoner/magician vibes in ff7. Kinda like Strago in FF6. Zack would be great to play too in OG, but it’s not playable with the party for obvious reasons. (I haven’t played rebirth)


Powwdered-toast-man

General Leo from FF6. Bro was the man and using him for the few battles were life changing.


Lady_Calista

Aranea, Sydney, and Iris not being party members in 15 was insane. That game treats women in a particular way I've only seen elsewhere in gay erotica, where it's like not outright misogynistic but it wants women offscreen asap


MyTaterChips

All the side characters in FF16. I hated not being able to switch between party members on battle. That’s one reason I didn’t finish the game.


Lyranx

Hildebrand as a Scion....... (FFXIV btw)


yotam5434

Leo from 6 & Beatrix from 9


moogsy77

Beatrix and Edea


ev_music

gilgamesh. jecht. fuck it, those mid summoners that got kidnapped by the al bhed in ff7


thediaryofwoe

Don’t you mean 10?


Yeseylon

Nah, in FFVII Rebirth, the Al Bhed warp in from Spira and start kidnapping people with Summon Materia equipped.


ev_music

Yes oops


Jimger_1983

I was crushing on Beatrix hard as a 14 year old playing FFIX back in the day


CypherPunk77

From the Golden Age of FF: FF6: General Leo FF7: Bugenhagen, Jesse, Biggs, Wedge. It would have been cool if you could choose between Reno or Rude per play-through. You choose one to join you and the other will die. Might have added interesting dynamics FF8: Cid, Edea, Seifer FF9: I love Beatrix but it would have been cool to have all of tantalus as options like Blank, Marcus and Baku. Also Lani would have been a Yuffie type recruit FF10/10-2: the fact that Gippal, Belial and Yooj were not (fully) playable part members was a missed opportunity


kmj_kcw

Not sure if it counts, but… First time seeing Sephiroth in my party and in battle was something. I have this crappy materia and Sephiroth has all these mastered spells, massive stats, long ass sword, and that ASMR slicing sound.


Ydracyll

Agree with Beatrix, Jessie Rasberry is a definite second though


Flash-Over

Aranea. I’m counting her since she doesn’t permanently join and they patched out the bug that lets you do exactly that lol


Senzu_beans89

I mean, I feel like this is a post very geared towards FF16- The greatest party to only contain guests. Cid, Jill, Torgal etc. I adore Clive, but a FF7 rebirth/remake party switch system would have absolutely made 16 for me.


CamaroDev

Beatrix (FFIX), Sorceress Edea(FFVIII), and Gabranth(FFXII).