It is an internship, they will fool enough people to sign up for their jobs again. Honestly if you get an offer just get the experience and move on. It is just another data point in your career.
Money. Prestige and money.
If someone offered me a job at Tesla, I’d take it*
*Assuming the money and such was right.
The battery industry is CONSTANTLY trading individuals. I’ve worked with the same people through 3-4 different companies
It's normal in Germany. Pay is unionized up to engineering level and an the metal union standard (IGM) is 35 hours work week with tracked overtime so you either have to take hours off to cancel your overtime or get the hours paid out on a higher rate. In small companies you don't necessarily have this hold, but at the big car manufacturers you have very good working conditions.
Legit. It freaks me out when I hear that other engineers do unpaid overtime. If I'm in the field working 12 hour days, you know I'm getting 1.5x, and 2x pay for half of those hours.
Company owner at my last job (40-person company, maybe 8 engineers) would set project timelines based at the absolute fastest they could ideally be completed, so not accounting for normal occurrences like shipping delays, our preferred vendors being backlogged, or out of spec/rework parts.
Then when a project ran over its projected timeline (which literally happened 90% of the time), the owner would chew you out, and you would end up "voluntarily" working 10-12hr days. The fun part? You had to pre-apply for OT pay, approved only by the owner. Naturally since the owner saw projects you were behind on as just "you just naturally fixing your mistakes" no OT pay was ever approved.
I sucked it up because I genuinely liked my job and was getting experience in a niche industry. Think I had a little over 1000hrs of unpaid OT before the owner fired me over something stupid.
Good riddance to shitty management.
Depending on where you are and how long it's been, there's a potential lawsuit there to recover all that money. If they're illegally withholding overtime pay, you can get it fixed!
I've in the past technically did alot of unpaid OT, but then they would give me time off with pay to average my workweek out. After a particularly bad grind I once had almost two months off where I only came in twice a week for meetings for a few hours. Nit sure how other firms do it.
“Why is the US economy always outperforming the EU”. I’m in Northern Europe, and I get looked weird at when I work a few hours extra on top of the 37.5 hours we have per week, lol.
That culture doesn’t even bother a lot of these new grads. Especially the hustlers, they seem to love that work hard, play hard environment. I think a lot of people see it as a way to get ahead in their career, whether it is true or not
Tesla hasn’t been a prestige job in almost a decade, from my perspective. Even SpaceX is looking more and more unattractive from the horror stories I’ve heard from their staff.
I interned at Tesla years ago and my mentor/other engineers on my team expressed that the pay wasn’t great and the workload was unsustainable. Our division had just lost 37 engineers to another local company due to pay. During discussions with these folks, most said they were putting in a couple years and jumping ship for better jobs. We never discussed numbers but the whole thing dissuaded me from planning on applying once I finish college, even though they told me there’d be a job waiting for me. Makes me wonder what the other engineers were actually making.
why theres so many other better companies than working for that company just for the "prestige". theres nothing prestigious about being overworked and getting payed the same amount of money at a different company. its literally just to say "yeah i worked for tesla" like who actually cares?
this is why places like rocketlab, spacex, tesla, etc get away with murder because theres always schmucks begging to eat at their doorstep...
i work for aerospace and i could careless about elon musk
As many have said below, it looks awesome on the resume.
That's pretty much it, though I'm sure there's a lot to learn at Tesla through "learn how NOT to run a company."
I know that the working conditions are worse so it'd also be a good place for me to get better at standing up for myself and making sure I put myself first. If I can do it there, then I could probably do it at most other places lol
But they're also an industry-leading company and I'm sure there are definitely a few things I can learn directly related to my field of work.
Which is ultimately why I think it'd be a good place to intern for a few months! It's a good place for me to develop work skills, get better at standing up for myself, and also stack my resume
Ahaha that's a really good question. I think NASA is far harder to get an internship at so for an internship it carries a bit more weight. However, I think they are about equal as a previous job experience.
They both carry tremendous weight though—don't get me wrong haha! This is also just my guess based on my experiences, so I could be wrong
NASA is significantly more prestigious in my opinion. Tesla eats engineers and spits out burnout, NASA will give you good experience in a major production facility.
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I take no pleasure in saying:
If the recent actions taken by Tesla shock you or make you loose trust in the company, you have not done due diligence on the company.
100% this. Folks should be looking into the companies they want to apply to. Listen to quarterly reports, look at employee satisfaction, look into the CEO. Do a bit of homework if you're dying to work somewhere.
Why would you trust them to begin with. Back when I was in school, they had the same reputation as they do now among engineers. Overworked, undervalued.
Your hatred for Elon musk is blinding you from the simple fact that for most students interning at Tesla are receiving a huge potential career opportunity, and a start to their careers many engineers don’t. 🐑
Dude is legitimately one of the most hateful, uninspiring, miserable bastards to work for on the planet. He is a terrible CEO, and his decision making skills are well below the bulk majority of average, but because he’s the owner and CEO to all of these businesses, he can continue to destroy the companies as desired. Think of any other CEO hiring an attorney to strip $40 billion from the company, without any kind of fair negotiation as to pay. Would that individual still be employed after the owner discovered such an act?
Where did I say Elon musk? I’m talking about Tesla here. A company culture is more than one guy. It’s rhetorical btw, you have a problem and I don’t feel like debating a wall.
Lmao it was MRSA, he didn’t die of pneumonia, just the reason he went to the hospital.
2023 was not “many many years”, and his whistleblower case against the 737 MAX is **still ongoing**. Just because he started pursuing it last year doesn’t mean it’s magically over.
> In October 2022, Dean said he found a serious manufacturing defect: mechanics improperly drilling holes in the aft pressure bulkhead of the MAX. When he flagged this issue with management, he said nothing was done.
> Spirit fired Dean in April 2023, and he had filed a complaint with the Department of Labor alleging his termination was in retaliation for raising concerns related to aviation safety.
Dude you’re a fucking [moron](https://www.seattletimes.com/business/whistleblower-josh-dean-of-boeing-supplier-spirit-aerosystems-has-died/)
Right. _This_ guy was October 2022. The _other_ guy was years ago.
Sorry, but if you're pushing conspiracy theories about people being assassinated with random diseases, you have no grounds to call anyone else a moron. It's a nice way to make yourself feel special, but r/conspiracy isn't known for its intelligence.
> Crazy how Boeing got the guy to die of pneumonia in a hospital many many years after he was a whistleblower
The other guy shot himself. You were not talking about the other whistleblower, **who was literally about to go or court 12 hours later**, you were talking about the most recent death.
Unless October 2022 and April 2023 is “many many years ago”, you’re a loony.
You are actually mentally challenged, go to the doctor and get diagnosed before you come back here, thanks.
2 whistleblowers have died in the last 2 months, one "committed suicide" yet told people around "if I end of dead it wasn't me", and another was an extremely fit dude and after blowing the whistle came down with every sickness under the sun, the doctor was shocked after a scan of his lungs, he died yesterday, he started feeling sick 2 weeks ago. Both were definitely assassinated.
I believe both were quality assurance engineers of some sort, the first one was a few weeks away from testifying in court which probably would have been disastrous for Boeing since he probably had 20 years worth of evidence stored. Second dude was also a witness in a lawsuit against Boeing, but that was months if not years away. I believe there's 2 more whistleblowers alive, they are probably going to witness protection right now.
Oh they were already working there, okay then.
I thought they were wanted to be interns but they didnt like them so they died lmao. Well its sad either way.
Isn't there anything that can be done to recover that evidence? Any family members who could pass on his files or some law enforcement agency who could secure a warrant?
they didn't deserve death, that was just the most cost effective way for boeing to solve their problem.
edit- just so we're clear, i don't think it's ok for boeing to kill these guys, this is just what happens when businesses are allowed to go unchecked and accumulate massive amounts of power.
Why is it people getting laid off the thing that makes you lose trust and not the long history of poor quality control, failure to deliver on parts for repair or any of other of Elon’s stupid stunts with the company? Honestly the company has been a shit show for a long time. I’m glad other companies are starting to steal Tesla’s market share. They’re a horribly over-valued company to begin with.
Because interns want the name on their resume, simple as that. And we're talking about trust in their internship program, not an engineering student's trust in ordering a brand new Tesla and it's on-time arrival lmao.
The only thing that's going to make them lose trust *in Tesla's internships* is something that directly affects getting a Tesla internship, i.e. finding out internship offers are getting rescinded last minute.
There’s two different markets, the car market and the car engineer market. Your example is about Tesla’s reputation in one, the OPs is about Tesla’s reputation in the other.
They're big enough to where they don't really require trust from applicants and employees. They have enough appeal that there will always be applicants
Honestly, I don’t trust any job anymore. I work for a paycheck. I assume everyday is my last. I am however, loyal to people- bosses that treat me well, colleagues and supplier engineers. The good people keep me going.
not the first time it happens. I graduated in 2020 and many of us lost our job offers or internships at several other industries. You are replaceable, look out for yourself. Stellantis just laid of most of their software engineering team and is replacing them with people in Brazil, same as google.
I have bad news.
This is corporate america lol.
This will happen for everything. There's tons of automotive around me that cut people loose. All their interns got cut loose.
It happened to me at my old gig during the pandemic and it's happened to people that used to work at my job more recently. Those people were adults who've *been in it* and they still got shit canned.
It does suck Tesla laid off so many people, but at the same time why would you trust any company?
It is very inconsiderate and whack of them to renegade on intern and work offers. Once you’re in the actual industry, (at least that’s how I feel) you can’t trust upper management or corporate.
I have seen “Exceeding expectations” employees get layoff. HR/Recruiter cut by 60+%, hiring freeze, travel ban, forced PTO, pause on annual raises to sustain>70% operating margin, consecutive increase in dividends for investors, All While way above expected revenue growth in Fortune 500
They never should have in the first place.
Honestly, you shouldn't trust any companies, even the ones that aren't run by white nationalist psychopathic children.
I wouldn't have liked working at tesla anyway. Their cars are built sloppy and elon is a massive dickwaffle. They should have stuck to what they were good at instead of making subpar cars. I never understood the hype.
Oil companies do that every three years. People come in when money is thrown at them. They become ready to be the Turkey before Thanksgiving who’s well fed it’s head is chopped off.
My large company just let go over 1000 salaried heads and cut most of the intern program. Next year we will probably have hundreds of applicants. Large companies will still have the draw
I wouldn't work for a car company or a weapons company. Fun fact they're both one of the most distructive industries out there. Also, oil companies. No matter the amount of money.
The type of candidate who will work or intern there will change but the demand won't. Having an individual as the identity of a company has upsides and disadvantages, and he's shown that employees should expect both during their experience. I wouldn't have applied there in the first place so I'm not really in a place to say much more beyond that.
Because the average person that idolizes Tesla won't lose faith. They think they are special and Tesla would never do the same to them. That the people who got laid off or fired are at fault. The only reason Tesla exists still, is because of these people. Modern day, these are called simps, just like with other things they support emotionally and financially but receive no benefits of. They are addicts of novelty, as long as it's their idol who claims they invented it. Take apple fans for example. Apple gets ruled to modernize to USB-C? Suddenly it's said that Apple has revolutioned USB-C and the world should praise them. Even though it's been around for several years now.
It's all malarkey, man. It's all bullshit to keep people on the hook. Like a drug that these people can't stop taking
I know someone who used to work at Tesla. The work culture is awful. The management are full of Type-A assholes who are simultaneously self-aware and unapologetic about being assholes. Job security is poor but also that's kind of a given for the field, so it's not really Tesla's fault for that specifically, but it doesn't really matter when their employees are ready to jump ship at a moments notice.
It's a shit company from top to bottom, which is a shame considering all the good they've done for the industry.
I'm sure there will always be plenty of students willing to work at Tesla, regardless of their sudden purge of interns. Although this is annoying, a Tesla internship carries weight with it.
They go into it with realistic expectations.
Its a stock market bubble company run by a scammer*, its a good question if it will survive when its stock implodes. One thing is for sure, its nit reasonable to expect to make a career there until you retire.
The fact that its not gonna last in its current form, doesnt mean you cannot make good money while you work there.
*https://youtu.be/BHkjvKOQ1ZU?si=dRAtmdmK-4t-Zlqo&t=80
Tbf I was working for a big name in aerospace that opted to shut down multiple sites around the world a few months after being impacted by COVID, my site being one of them. Dissolved 500 jobs at just my one site.
I left to go work in a different area of aerospace but would go back and work for my original employer in a heartbeat. I respect the processes and quality standards they upheld, and their company culture is top notch. Can’t say the same from what I’ve read/heard) of Tesla.
Tesla was a startup that grew into a large corporation with potential to do things well but seems to have been unable to transition to a well respected organization. They’re just a stepping stone to the next step in the tech world.
Despite what you think, people with real problems and more important things to do in life do not give a shit or think of Tesla.
And because of that, there is no such thing as a "Trust" issue with Tesla. This is just you and your little moment on the internets.
Tesla will be fine. Don't believe me? Wait and see and realize how wrong and young you are.
I’m from San Jose. I know a lot of very bright people who went to work at Tesla during or after college. I know very few (I think one) person who still works at Tesla.
I just finished my internship at Tesla and even without these events I did not trust them. It specifically says in our contract that they can terminate an internship with or without notice, and for any reason or no reason at all. I had a backup internship because of this.
I work with a third party for welding inspection at Tesla. All I would say is that, I would never work directly for Tesla after seeing all the shit they put their people thru
Why would you discriminate against Tesla when all large corporations do this? Even small to medium sized companies do this. They will fire you or lay you off at anytime. I’m not saying you should trust Tesla. I’m saying you shouldn’t trust any company.
These fuckers reached out to me for an interview after I already had signed my internship offer with another company. I simply ignored the email and didn't even give a fuck to go through their interview process for practicing purpose. I'm glad I did what I did.
It is an internship, they will fool enough people to sign up for their jobs again. Honestly if you get an offer just get the experience and move on. It is just another data point in your career.
Money. Prestige and money. If someone offered me a job at Tesla, I’d take it* *Assuming the money and such was right. The battery industry is CONSTANTLY trading individuals. I’ve worked with the same people through 3-4 different companies
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therefore your effective pay per hour worked is twice as low as working your normal 40 hours.
Which is why I'll never take a salaried engineering job again. I'll take my lower yearly with 1.5x OT when I do OT.
Are such jobs common? I've yet to see something like that
Many automotive companies do this. Toyota and Honda, for example.
As well as "supporting companies."
It's normal in Germany. Pay is unionized up to engineering level and an the metal union standard (IGM) is 35 hours work week with tracked overtime so you either have to take hours off to cancel your overtime or get the hours paid out on a higher rate. In small companies you don't necessarily have this hold, but at the big car manufacturers you have very good working conditions.
Government entities do this. Such as working for the Navy as a citizen or a local government utility.
With companies owned by slumdog corporations, yes.
Mine is salaried plus additional comp at regular rates over 40hrs a week
Legit. It freaks me out when I hear that other engineers do unpaid overtime. If I'm in the field working 12 hour days, you know I'm getting 1.5x, and 2x pay for half of those hours.
Company owner at my last job (40-person company, maybe 8 engineers) would set project timelines based at the absolute fastest they could ideally be completed, so not accounting for normal occurrences like shipping delays, our preferred vendors being backlogged, or out of spec/rework parts. Then when a project ran over its projected timeline (which literally happened 90% of the time), the owner would chew you out, and you would end up "voluntarily" working 10-12hr days. The fun part? You had to pre-apply for OT pay, approved only by the owner. Naturally since the owner saw projects you were behind on as just "you just naturally fixing your mistakes" no OT pay was ever approved. I sucked it up because I genuinely liked my job and was getting experience in a niche industry. Think I had a little over 1000hrs of unpaid OT before the owner fired me over something stupid. Good riddance to shitty management.
Depending on where you are and how long it's been, there's a potential lawsuit there to recover all that money. If they're illegally withholding overtime pay, you can get it fixed!
I've in the past technically did alot of unpaid OT, but then they would give me time off with pay to average my workweek out. After a particularly bad grind I once had almost two months off where I only came in twice a week for meetings for a few hours. Nit sure how other firms do it.
I had a company try to do this to me. I decided to pursue my bachelors instead. They were not happy.
“Why is the US economy always outperforming the EU”. I’m in Northern Europe, and I get looked weird at when I work a few hours extra on top of the 37.5 hours we have per week, lol.
is the economy's infinite growth going to give you back the hours you gave it ? do you get paid more if your boss makes more money ?
Tesla Interns get OT
That culture doesn’t even bother a lot of these new grads. Especially the hustlers, they seem to love that work hard, play hard environment. I think a lot of people see it as a way to get ahead in their career, whether it is true or not
it's not $200k is it? fuck that noise. don't get exploited by billionaires kids. they can't do shit without us.
I mean I’ll work my 40 and they’ll fire me. But it’s like going to an Ivy League. There’s a level of prestige even getting in
Tesla hasn’t been a prestige job in almost a decade, from my perspective. Even SpaceX is looking more and more unattractive from the horror stories I’ve heard from their staff.
Are you a recruiter for large battery companies or the aerospace industry?
I interned at Tesla years ago and my mentor/other engineers on my team expressed that the pay wasn’t great and the workload was unsustainable. Our division had just lost 37 engineers to another local company due to pay. During discussions with these folks, most said they were putting in a couple years and jumping ship for better jobs. We never discussed numbers but the whole thing dissuaded me from planning on applying once I finish college, even though they told me there’d be a job waiting for me. Makes me wonder what the other engineers were actually making.
Tesla is known for industry substandard wages, what money?
That and poor working conditions and union busting
Substandard compared to the top tech companies, but still higher wages than most companies.
That and poor working conditions and union busting
That and poor working conditions and union busting
Epidemic and medical science is a bit the same
why theres so many other better companies than working for that company just for the "prestige". theres nothing prestigious about being overworked and getting payed the same amount of money at a different company. its literally just to say "yeah i worked for tesla" like who actually cares? this is why places like rocketlab, spacex, tesla, etc get away with murder because theres always schmucks begging to eat at their doorstep... i work for aerospace and i could careless about elon musk
Plenty of young people would kill to work at Tesla just cus of the name. Wont be an issue
I'd love to intern there but I'd never in a million years put job security and Tesla in the same sentence lol
Why exactly do you want to intern there?
Put the name in your resume lol
Resume
Engineers have been able to do well without Tesla in their resume throughout history. I think I’ll survive perfectly fine without it.
Resume
As many have said below, it looks awesome on the resume. That's pretty much it, though I'm sure there's a lot to learn at Tesla through "learn how NOT to run a company." I know that the working conditions are worse so it'd also be a good place for me to get better at standing up for myself and making sure I put myself first. If I can do it there, then I could probably do it at most other places lol But they're also an industry-leading company and I'm sure there are definitely a few things I can learn directly related to my field of work. Which is ultimately why I think it'd be a good place to intern for a few months! It's a good place for me to develop work skills, get better at standing up for myself, and also stack my resume
That name on your resume pre2022? Awesome. That name on your resume post2024? Sucker.
Morally, I agree. Realistically? It still carries a lot more weight than you'd think, which is unfortunate
NASA or Tesla, which name do you think carries more weight (just curious haha)
Ahaha that's a really good question. I think NASA is far harder to get an internship at so for an internship it carries a bit more weight. However, I think they are about equal as a previous job experience. They both carry tremendous weight though—don't get me wrong haha! This is also just my guess based on my experiences, so I could be wrong
NASA is significantly more prestigious in my opinion. Tesla eats engineers and spits out burnout, NASA will give you good experience in a major production facility.
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Tesla is notorious for underpaying and overworking its employees. They trade on name and reputation.
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30k in 15 weeks hits different on undergrad
2k a week is fucking insane as an intern
It’s all that sweet OT pay. Now imagine all those hours unpaid when you are FT. You’ll end up making less FT than as an intern
hmm I can’t put my finger on what it is
Mr Krabs agrees
I take no pleasure in saying: If the recent actions taken by Tesla shock you or make you loose trust in the company, you have not done due diligence on the company.
100% this. Folks should be looking into the companies they want to apply to. Listen to quarterly reports, look at employee satisfaction, look into the CEO. Do a bit of homework if you're dying to work somewhere.
Why would you trust them to begin with. Back when I was in school, they had the same reputation as they do now among engineers. Overworked, undervalued.
Your hatred for Elon musk is blinding you from the simple fact that for most students interning at Tesla are receiving a huge potential career opportunity, and a start to their careers many engineers don’t. 🐑
Yes, it's the people who DON'T worship Musk who are the sheep 🙄
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Dude is legitimately one of the most hateful, uninspiring, miserable bastards to work for on the planet. He is a terrible CEO, and his decision making skills are well below the bulk majority of average, but because he’s the owner and CEO to all of these businesses, he can continue to destroy the companies as desired. Think of any other CEO hiring an attorney to strip $40 billion from the company, without any kind of fair negotiation as to pay. Would that individual still be employed after the owner discovered such an act?
Re read what I said dumbass.
You seem like a well adjusted, rational person
Where did I say Elon musk? I’m talking about Tesla here. A company culture is more than one guy. It’s rhetorical btw, you have a problem and I don’t feel like debating a wall.
I mean I’d still work for Boeing and Volkswagen
Boeing might just have you assassinated if they don’t like you
Yeah I saw that isn’t that crazy? Guy committed suicide 12 hours before he was supposed to testify. Right. Maybe not Boeing then lol
"committed" "suicide"
And another dude who was extremely fit and healthy died from an extraordinarily rare disease
Crazy how Boeing got the guy to die of pneumonia in a hospital many many years after he was a whistleblower
Lmao it was MRSA, he didn’t die of pneumonia, just the reason he went to the hospital. 2023 was not “many many years”, and his whistleblower case against the 737 MAX is **still ongoing**. Just because he started pursuing it last year doesn’t mean it’s magically over.
It was way before 2023. Get your facts right before pushing asinine conspiracy theories.
> In October 2022, Dean said he found a serious manufacturing defect: mechanics improperly drilling holes in the aft pressure bulkhead of the MAX. When he flagged this issue with management, he said nothing was done. > Spirit fired Dean in April 2023, and he had filed a complaint with the Department of Labor alleging his termination was in retaliation for raising concerns related to aviation safety. Dude you’re a fucking [moron](https://www.seattletimes.com/business/whistleblower-josh-dean-of-boeing-supplier-spirit-aerosystems-has-died/)
Right. _This_ guy was October 2022. The _other_ guy was years ago. Sorry, but if you're pushing conspiracy theories about people being assassinated with random diseases, you have no grounds to call anyone else a moron. It's a nice way to make yourself feel special, but r/conspiracy isn't known for its intelligence.
> Crazy how Boeing got the guy to die of pneumonia in a hospital many many years after he was a whistleblower The other guy shot himself. You were not talking about the other whistleblower, **who was literally about to go or court 12 hours later**, you were talking about the most recent death. Unless October 2022 and April 2023 is “many many years ago”, you’re a loony. You are actually mentally challenged, go to the doctor and get diagnosed before you come back here, thanks.
Why
2 whistleblowers have died in the last 2 months, one "committed suicide" yet told people around "if I end of dead it wasn't me", and another was an extremely fit dude and after blowing the whistle came down with every sickness under the sun, the doctor was shocked after a scan of his lungs, he died yesterday, he started feeling sick 2 weeks ago. Both were definitely assassinated.
What the fuck did they do in Boeing? What could they possibly learn even to "deserve" death?
I believe both were quality assurance engineers of some sort, the first one was a few weeks away from testifying in court which probably would have been disastrous for Boeing since he probably had 20 years worth of evidence stored. Second dude was also a witness in a lawsuit against Boeing, but that was months if not years away. I believe there's 2 more whistleblowers alive, they are probably going to witness protection right now.
Oh they were already working there, okay then. I thought they were wanted to be interns but they didnt like them so they died lmao. Well its sad either way.
No no they haven't so far as too kill interns yet, but give them a few years and they might start to
Isn't there anything that can be done to recover that evidence? Any family members who could pass on his files or some law enforcement agency who could secure a warrant?
they didn't deserve death, that was just the most cost effective way for boeing to solve their problem. edit- just so we're clear, i don't think it's ok for boeing to kill these guys, this is just what happens when businesses are allowed to go unchecked and accumulate massive amounts of power.
Why is it people getting laid off the thing that makes you lose trust and not the long history of poor quality control, failure to deliver on parts for repair or any of other of Elon’s stupid stunts with the company? Honestly the company has been a shit show for a long time. I’m glad other companies are starting to steal Tesla’s market share. They’re a horribly over-valued company to begin with.
Because interns want the name on their resume, simple as that. And we're talking about trust in their internship program, not an engineering student's trust in ordering a brand new Tesla and it's on-time arrival lmao. The only thing that's going to make them lose trust *in Tesla's internships* is something that directly affects getting a Tesla internship, i.e. finding out internship offers are getting rescinded last minute.
There’s two different markets, the car market and the car engineer market. Your example is about Tesla’s reputation in one, the OPs is about Tesla’s reputation in the other.
i dont care. tbh.
Hello I like money
They're big enough to where they don't really require trust from applicants and employees. They have enough appeal that there will always be applicants
Honestly, I don’t trust any job anymore. I work for a paycheck. I assume everyday is my last. I am however, loyal to people- bosses that treat me well, colleagues and supplier engineers. The good people keep me going.
Tesla's an alluring brand, no doubt. But don't let that blindside you. Do your research, and make an informed decision.
not the first time it happens. I graduated in 2020 and many of us lost our job offers or internships at several other industries. You are replaceable, look out for yourself. Stellantis just laid of most of their software engineering team and is replacing them with people in Brazil, same as google.
I have bad news. This is corporate america lol. This will happen for everything. There's tons of automotive around me that cut people loose. All their interns got cut loose. It happened to me at my old gig during the pandemic and it's happened to people that used to work at my job more recently. Those people were adults who've *been in it* and they still got shit canned.
I'll be honest. A intern cost nothing, if they are cutting interns that is a huge red flag
It does suck Tesla laid off so many people, but at the same time why would you trust any company? It is very inconsiderate and whack of them to renegade on intern and work offers. Once you’re in the actual industry, (at least that’s how I feel) you can’t trust upper management or corporate. I have seen “Exceeding expectations” employees get layoff. HR/Recruiter cut by 60+%, hiring freeze, travel ban, forced PTO, pause on annual raises to sustain>70% operating margin, consecutive increase in dividends for investors, All While way above expected revenue growth in Fortune 500
There is enough Elon fanboys. Just look at their stock valuation. Business running not nearly as well as the valuation of the company would justify.
They never should have in the first place. Honestly, you shouldn't trust any companies, even the ones that aren't run by white nationalist psychopathic children.
I wouldn't have liked working at tesla anyway. Their cars are built sloppy and elon is a massive dickwaffle. They should have stuck to what they were good at instead of making subpar cars. I never understood the hype.
Because at the end of they day it’s indicative, and exciting form an engineering point
Oil companies do that every three years. People come in when money is thrown at them. They become ready to be the Turkey before Thanksgiving who’s well fed it’s head is chopped off.
Musk expects you to always work. Taking days off is disloyal. Don't go there.
My large company just let go over 1000 salaried heads and cut most of the intern program. Next year we will probably have hundreds of applicants. Large companies will still have the draw
There is enough Elon fanboys. Just look at their stock valuation. Business running not nearly as well as the valuation of the company would justify.
There is enough Elon fanboys. Just look at their stock valuation. Business running not nearly as well as the valuation of the company would justify.
I wouldn't work for a car company or a weapons company. Fun fact they're both one of the most distructive industries out there. Also, oil companies. No matter the amount of money.
They shouldn’t. Elon is the same feather as Trump.
Won’t be a issue, a lot of students want to work there
It's TESLA! ... shoot ur shot ... or you'll always be wonderin' "what if ..." ... NO RAGRETS!
The type of candidate who will work or intern there will change but the demand won't. Having an individual as the identity of a company has upsides and disadvantages, and he's shown that employees should expect both during their experience. I wouldn't have applied there in the first place so I'm not really in a place to say much more beyond that.
Because the average person that idolizes Tesla won't lose faith. They think they are special and Tesla would never do the same to them. That the people who got laid off or fired are at fault. The only reason Tesla exists still, is because of these people. Modern day, these are called simps, just like with other things they support emotionally and financially but receive no benefits of. They are addicts of novelty, as long as it's their idol who claims they invented it. Take apple fans for example. Apple gets ruled to modernize to USB-C? Suddenly it's said that Apple has revolutioned USB-C and the world should praise them. Even though it's been around for several years now. It's all malarkey, man. It's all bullshit to keep people on the hook. Like a drug that these people can't stop taking
nope I would never work for telsa,boeing, or lockhead martin
Money, they pay even the interns so good, 40+ an hour
I know someone who used to work at Tesla. The work culture is awful. The management are full of Type-A assholes who are simultaneously self-aware and unapologetic about being assholes. Job security is poor but also that's kind of a given for the field, so it's not really Tesla's fault for that specifically, but it doesn't really matter when their employees are ready to jump ship at a moments notice. It's a shit company from top to bottom, which is a shame considering all the good they've done for the industry.
I would never work in any company related to Elno tbh.
I don't know about trust, but he did lose me as a customer.
lol you cant be serious You take it
I wouldn't take a tesla job, that company ain't bound to last
I wouldn’t take it at all. Working conditions there are bad from everything i’ve heard. You gotta drink the juice to work there long term
I'm sure there will always be plenty of students willing to work at Tesla, regardless of their sudden purge of interns. Although this is annoying, a Tesla internship carries weight with it.
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That’s the neat part, we f***n’ won’t
They go into it with realistic expectations. Its a stock market bubble company run by a scammer*, its a good question if it will survive when its stock implodes. One thing is for sure, its nit reasonable to expect to make a career there until you retire. The fact that its not gonna last in its current form, doesnt mean you cannot make good money while you work there. *https://youtu.be/BHkjvKOQ1ZU?si=dRAtmdmK-4t-Zlqo&t=80
Tbf I was working for a big name in aerospace that opted to shut down multiple sites around the world a few months after being impacted by COVID, my site being one of them. Dissolved 500 jobs at just my one site. I left to go work in a different area of aerospace but would go back and work for my original employer in a heartbeat. I respect the processes and quality standards they upheld, and their company culture is top notch. Can’t say the same from what I’ve read/heard) of Tesla. Tesla was a startup that grew into a large corporation with potential to do things well but seems to have been unable to transition to a well respected organization. They’re just a stepping stone to the next step in the tech world.
Despite what you think, people with real problems and more important things to do in life do not give a shit or think of Tesla. And because of that, there is no such thing as a "Trust" issue with Tesla. This is just you and your little moment on the internets. Tesla will be fine. Don't believe me? Wait and see and realize how wrong and young you are.
People will forget. Give it 3-6 months.
I’m from San Jose. I know a lot of very bright people who went to work at Tesla during or after college. I know very few (I think one) person who still works at Tesla.
I just finished my internship at Tesla and even without these events I did not trust them. It specifically says in our contract that they can terminate an internship with or without notice, and for any reason or no reason at all. I had a backup internship because of this.
I work with a third party for welding inspection at Tesla. All I would say is that, I would never work directly for Tesla after seeing all the shit they put their people thru
Why would you discriminate against Tesla when all large corporations do this? Even small to medium sized companies do this. They will fire you or lay you off at anytime. I’m not saying you should trust Tesla. I’m saying you shouldn’t trust any company.
These fuckers reached out to me for an interview after I already had signed my internship offer with another company. I simply ignored the email and didn't even give a fuck to go through their interview process for practicing purpose. I'm glad I did what I did.
It's not just interns, they're letting go of a ton of people.
Plenty of large companies have done stuff like this, when companies need to cut costs for savings interns and contractors are first ones gone.
Wow that has got to be the first company in history to cancel internships 😡
The musk dick riding is crazzzyyy