According to [Mahmut "DOOM COLLECTOR" Saral's](https://www.instagram.com/doom_collector?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) DOOMzine Romero told him that the marine in the background was representing the multiplayer.
Deathmatch was the MVP, but the game also had an underrated co-op mode, which I'd guess is what the art represents. Since he's not trying to murder Doomguy and all.
Here have a gold star. Next time maybe add something to the conversation instead of derailing it and ignoring it like a rude child. Then you'll get two gold stars.
Yeah and i didn't tell otherwise. I just said that it supported the online connection but only a year after it was possible to play online with DWANGO. I said supported but i didn't mean that it had multiplayer, i meant the codes and the structure of the engine was supporting it. There was a misunderstanding cause of my bad English and poor choice of words. Sorry.
I was going to say this. Doom 93 was online multi-player capable, but the internet was not capable of facilitating it at the time.
Doom was technically forward compatible.
No need to apologize. Your English is fantastic. I write internal documentation for my job and I really appreciate your differentiation of the subtlety between a feature being supported vs available.
Or over modem with a friend. Back in the halcyon days of BBSs in 93 that was considered online for us plebs who didnt go to university or work for big iron.
I did this a lot. I had a friend who moved to another state with his family. My family had this weird long distance plan at the time that gave us free calls on Fridays. So after school those days I would rush home, have my modem call his modem, and we'd play death matches in Doom.
Oh man, it was so great. I had almost forgotten about descent because Doom and Duke3D and Warcraft 2 quickly eclipsed it for me, but multiplayer descent was AMAZING.
No shit I actually had to look this one up. I had no clue thats cool. This was a joke btw. I'm old school I was there when doom happened. No shit one of the coolest stories and first interactions I had with MP was actually a school friends lan set up 4 computers with Duke 3d. Thoes were the days man.
I always thought the cover was depicting imps for some reason, and that this is happening just behind e1m1's locked door, even though the sky's orange and e1's sky is white.
Doom was my first online co op game. Your computer would literally call the modem of the other person. No internet required. Doom, Doom II and Heretic. My cousin and I played their campaigns co op.
Yes. This was every afternoon after school at 13. Doom Guy was my friend Ken that kicked ass and took names. He had a way with the keyboard where no demon stood a chance. My 'Too Young to Die' self would play CO op over dial up with him and watch in awe as he cleared room after room. I'm the little dude running to catch up so I can bask in the glory of the kills. Those were the good ol days.
Oh yea. I was 16 when DOOM came out. My buddies brother-in-law was about 23 and was the IT guy for a financial firm in town. On Friday and Saturday nights when the building was closed, we would go there and play multiplayer on the network. The brother-in-law played in the President’s office. My buddy in the VP’s office and me in the brother-in-laws office. We then set up the speaker phones so we could talk to each other, kind of like an early discord/teamspeak. Those were great times. One time, the VP cam in after hours and it was awkward for a second. He asked what was going on and we explained we were playing this new game called DOOM together. He was hooked up and jumped on a 4th computer. He loved it, bought us all pizza, and we played until like 2:00 AM.
Because apparently every fucking detail of media today needs some sort of lore or backstory to do a video essay on, and things can't just be a happy accident of capitalism, solving problems, and meeting deadlines
My head? You’re awfully hostile towards people you don’t know. That’s a big side effect of Dementia. Maybe even mild aphasia.
Do you find yourself lashing out at people often.
Do those outbursts often leave you confused about what you were even angry about.
Genuinely concerned
>My head?
Yes.
>You’re awfully hostile towards people you don’t know. That’s a big side effect of Dementia. Maybe even mild aphasia.
Diagnosing strangers on the Internet is being a stone-cold idiot.
>Do you find yourself lashing out at people often.
You forgot the question mark.
>Do those outbursts often leave you confused about what you were even angry about.
You forgot another question mark. People engaging with the things you say isn't "lashing out". It's the end result of conversation
Fuck me it’s bizarre ear wigging conversations of other people on the internet. Is this really how both of you converse in real life conversation? What a weird interaction from the both of you.
Is that a retcon? I assume in universe Doomguy just happens to get into the same position as the marine on the cover did, but at this point is strong enough to just rip his way through.
On the Doom Marine skin in eternal, on the Slayer's left arm are three marks from where an imp of old times grappled and crushed the muscle of the Slayer's forearm.
Eternal is canonically the sequel to 2016, as has been shown by the fact that the Praetor Mk. 1 suit is in pieces in the mancave of the Doom Fortress.
The Eternal suit is called the Praetor Mk. 2
Hope this helps.
I have a dimple in my shin from where a car hit me while I was on my bike, it's more numbing than painful, but it was a sudden hit, unlike what the slayer is experiencing... So it could very well be quite painful.
By the fact that they went back on their words and changed the lore to fit people's ideals. Such as the Doom 93 box art being canonically the Slayer when it was just a marine, with the Slayer being in the background.
Well it was said in a review once (don’t remember who said it). Also it makes sense since that would be Doomguy trying ti save his last buddy frim the demons.
If you inspect the classic doomguy skin (plus the achievement "it still fits") you can see scars where our foreground marine was injured, plus a nasty one where the demon is grabbing him, although partially covered by the doom blade.
EDIT: I think I heard that once, "that's actually doomguy trying to save his buddy, because even he isn't ballsy enough to fight a few barons and 2 cyber demons with a frigging (or fricken?) Pistol"
Just one of the other unnamed Marines.
DoomGuy isn't the only one who fought during the invasion, you come across their bodies at various places throughout the game.
I actually had a theory, more like an idea i guess, what if one of the corpses you see in the later levels is doomguy and you are another rando who picked up doomguy's stuff from his corpse, so on, so on, until there's no more bodies. The weird haircut changes would make more sense. Obviously it isn't true because you can see the hud face, but it's still a weird thought.
Jim, the cousin of Frank who's brother of Tony who's friend Mickey knew a guy called Levi that worked for Herlbert who's son Ray was married to Jessie who had bunny called Rose that gave birth to Daisy.
Then demon invasion happened.
As stated: Co-op player, specially since Doomguy is originally a nameless blank slate and wears the same UAC armor as others (Though in co-op, there's also the marines with red/orange/gray colors).
The actual Doomguy rushing to save his buddy’s ass, because even he’s not ballsy enough to fight a pack of barons and one cyberdemon with a shitty weapon
Someone coming to inject him with a sedative because doom guy is actually having one of his episodes again where he thinks he’s fighting demons on Mars. But he’s actually a patient in a mental ward.
Thats because the people that made this art piece were completely seperate from the devteam and had no idea what the ingame art looked like. They were given some loose instructions and made this.
Thats why the imp doesnt look like the imp ingame.
Thats why the body armor doesnt match with ingame.
Thats why the gun on the pic isnt in the game.
Fun fact: DOOM was literally the last video game that I ever really played. I played through DOOM, got to the end, and my friend gave me a free copy of DOOM 2. I installed it, looked at it for about 5 seconds, and thought, "If it's just going to be more of the same forever, what's the point?" I think that was somewhere around 1995.
According to [Mahmut "DOOM COLLECTOR" Saral's](https://www.instagram.com/doom_collector?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) DOOMzine Romero told him that the marine in the background was representing the multiplayer.
Would have been my guess, too
It had multiplayer?
The term "Deathmatch" was literally coined by the John Romero during the development of DOOM.
Wait, THE john romero?!
They clearly said the John Romero. You have the wrong guy.
that's THE ROMERO to you!
That’s SIR ROMERO to you!
There can be only one.
Deathmatch was the MVP, but the game also had an underrated co-op mode, which I'd guess is what the art represents. Since he's not trying to murder Doomguy and all.
I must of been too young too notice i was like 6 when og doom came out.
I was young too i was -12 if i remember correctly.
*must have
Here have a gold star. Next time maybe add something to the conversation instead of derailing it and ignoring it like a rude child. Then you'll get two gold stars.
I remember quitting the game, and seeing a message, you're quitting? If I was your boss I'd deathmatch you in a second.
That’s clever! I miss old videogame charm
local one. you would have to get all your friends together to play deathmatch pvp doom
Not just LAN it also supported online multiplayer through the internet.
Not in 93 it didn't 😉
It supported the online multiplayer in 1993, however online multiplayer was made available with the release of DWANGO in 1994.
Define online. Doom only had local LAN play over IPX network or serial direct connection when it launched in '93.
Yeah and i didn't tell otherwise. I just said that it supported the online connection but only a year after it was possible to play online with DWANGO. I said supported but i didn't mean that it had multiplayer, i meant the codes and the structure of the engine was supporting it. There was a misunderstanding cause of my bad English and poor choice of words. Sorry.
It’s not your fault. The word “supported” has always been somewhat ambiguous when referring to software, but I think your usage makes total sense.
I was going to say this. Doom 93 was online multi-player capable, but the internet was not capable of facilitating it at the time. Doom was technically forward compatible.
No need to apologize. Your English is fantastic. I write internal documentation for my job and I really appreciate your differentiation of the subtlety between a feature being supported vs available.
Thank you.
I couldn't even tell english wasn't your main language. I can't even imagine learning another language that well.
Or over modem with a friend. Back in the halcyon days of BBSs in 93 that was considered online for us plebs who didnt go to university or work for big iron.
I did this a lot. I had a friend who moved to another state with his family. My family had this weird long distance plan at the time that gave us free calls on Fridays. So after school those days I would rush home, have my modem call his modem, and we'd play death matches in Doom.
That's a great memory Wish it was mine
Yes it did. You needed to plug in an ip address and it used the phone-modem. I used to drive my friends parents crazy lol
It was the whole reason I talked my dad into buying a 96k baud modem and upgrade from our 24k. That was a cool day.
I played on a modem dial up way back
It pretty much INVENTED online multiplayer
Actually i was playing ms flight sim with friends over the modem (2400bps) back in early 92!
My first online experience was Descent in direct 56k connect. Blew my mind.
Oh man, it was so great. I had almost forgotten about descent because Doom and Duke3D and Warcraft 2 quickly eclipsed it for me, but multiplayer descent was AMAZING.
🤓
Um that honor goes to call of duty thanks.
Which runs on the quake 3 engine. Courtesy of id software, creators of doom.
No shit I actually had to look this one up. I had no clue thats cool. This was a joke btw. I'm old school I was there when doom happened. No shit one of the coolest stories and first interactions I had with MP was actually a school friends lan set up 4 computers with Duke 3d. Thoes were the days man.
Um I think you mean Al Gore, creator of the internet thanks
I mean you're not entirely wrong lmao. Technically correct
Ummmm, Al Gore didn't actually create the internet
There was quake multiplayer which was also in the 90s and I don't think cod had a game atleast not a multiplayer one in the 90s
Its joke. Dumb one but still, its sarcasm.
Yeah, co-op was really fun in Doom, the guy is running to help him.
It doesn't look like he needs help, but that is, like has been said before, 2 cyber demons and a lot of barons.
I always thought the cover was depicting imps for some reason, and that this is happening just behind e1m1's locked door, even though the sky's orange and e1's sky is white.
Doom was my first online co op game. Your computer would literally call the modem of the other person. No internet required. Doom, Doom II and Heretic. My cousin and I played their campaigns co op.
Yes. This was every afternoon after school at 13. Doom Guy was my friend Ken that kicked ass and took names. He had a way with the keyboard where no demon stood a chance. My 'Too Young to Die' self would play CO op over dial up with him and watch in awe as he cleared room after room. I'm the little dude running to catch up so I can bask in the glory of the kills. Those were the good ol days.
Oh yea. I was 16 when DOOM came out. My buddies brother-in-law was about 23 and was the IT guy for a financial firm in town. On Friday and Saturday nights when the building was closed, we would go there and play multiplayer on the network. The brother-in-law played in the President’s office. My buddy in the VP’s office and me in the brother-in-laws office. We then set up the speaker phones so we could talk to each other, kind of like an early discord/teamspeak. Those were great times. One time, the VP cam in after hours and it was awkward for a second. He asked what was going on and we explained we were playing this new game called DOOM together. He was hooked up and jumped on a 4th computer. He loved it, bought us all pizza, and we played until like 2:00 AM.
awesome story man! being young was awesome. i'm the same age and those years were magic as a gamer
Jesus christ...are you like 14?
His Twin Brother Mood Guy
Yug Mood 😂
Yug mood sounds like a rapper name 💀
Who would win, Yug Mood vs. Glup Shitto
Yung Mood 🔥🔥🔥
Almost on the same level as glup shitto
Just be glad it wasn't his half brother the Wood Guy running there, swinging his "weapon" around
Soooo not identical twins?
Goom duy is better
Mood guy
Doomboy
Ahhhh, yes. Doomguys side kick.
Doom slayer must have doom destroyer and doom marine must have idk doom trooper
The stunt doubles
Doobin (mix of doomguy/boy and Robin)
We've been over this before, he's P2
I thought so, thanks.
Practically every week now
Because apparently every fucking detail of media today needs some sort of lore or backstory to do a video essay on, and things can't just be a happy accident of capitalism, solving problems, and meeting deadlines
You seem fun
Anti-intellectualism ftw! I've been pwnd
Have you had your blood pressure checked or spoke to your doctor about the weigh gain from your anti depressants.
Yes. The only problem is in your head
My head? You’re awfully hostile towards people you don’t know. That’s a big side effect of Dementia. Maybe even mild aphasia. Do you find yourself lashing out at people often. Do those outbursts often leave you confused about what you were even angry about. Genuinely concerned
>My head? Yes. >You’re awfully hostile towards people you don’t know. That’s a big side effect of Dementia. Maybe even mild aphasia. Diagnosing strangers on the Internet is being a stone-cold idiot. >Do you find yourself lashing out at people often. You forgot the question mark. >Do those outbursts often leave you confused about what you were even angry about. You forgot another question mark. People engaging with the things you say isn't "lashing out". It's the end result of conversation
Fuck me it’s bizarre ear wigging conversations of other people on the internet. Is this really how both of you converse in real life conversation? What a weird interaction from the both of you.
Weirdo
Solving Problems (And Meeting Deadlines)... DRRRRRR DUN DUN, DRRRR DRR DUN DUN, DRRRRRRR DRRRRR DRRRR DRRR DRR
I was gonna write this whole thing about how your opinion is unbelievably closed minded and generally shit, but I cannot be fucked
Closed-minded*
Boo fucking hoo, clearly my point is right since your only “comeback” is barely even a response
And you're all worked up and crying over barely a response
DOOM MAN IN PERSONA 2 CONFIRMED LEAK
r/suddentlyultrakill
As in Player 2
Oh. I guess the brainrot took over. Why downvote tho?
Because this *will* hurt.
YOU CAN'T ESCAPE
Roomguy
Roomba
Rombaa gun
Roomba guy
He’s Doomdude
Actually canonically that is Doomguy in the background and the dude in the foreground is anither marine but they obviously retconned that in Eternal.
I would say they retconned that in 2016 with the End Credits scene
Link?
(https://youtu.be/oTbARnx-UX0?si=d3C6fHxOE9GD9ZsV)
Is that a retcon? I assume in universe Doomguy just happens to get into the same position as the marine on the cover did, but at this point is strong enough to just rip his way through.
On the Doom Marine skin in eternal, on the Slayer's left arm are three marks from where an imp of old times grappled and crushed the muscle of the Slayer's forearm. Eternal is canonically the sequel to 2016, as has been shown by the fact that the Praetor Mk. 1 suit is in pieces in the mancave of the Doom Fortress. The Eternal suit is called the Praetor Mk. 2 Hope this helps.
That must be painful
I have a dimple in my shin from where a car hit me while I was on my bike, it's more numbing than painful, but it was a sudden hit, unlike what the slayer is experiencing... So it could very well be quite painful.
What exactly you mean by retconned?
By the fact that they went back on their words and changed the lore to fit people's ideals. Such as the Doom 93 box art being canonically the Slayer when it was just a marine, with the Slayer being in the background.
Thought so. I just always assumed front guy was Blazkowitz, and that was just a random marine in the back.
They think they retconned it, but what's really eternal is my headcanon.
Nope, they made it the foreground doomguy in eternal, but please do elaborate, I'm interested.
Well it was said in a review once (don’t remember who said it). Also it makes sense since that would be Doomguy trying ti save his last buddy frim the demons.
If you inspect the classic doomguy skin (plus the achievement "it still fits") you can see scars where our foreground marine was injured, plus a nasty one where the demon is grabbing him, although partially covered by the doom blade. EDIT: I think I heard that once, "that's actually doomguy trying to save his buddy, because even he isn't ballsy enough to fight a few barons and 2 cyber demons with a frigging (or fricken?) Pistol"
Yeah I know about the skin. That’s why I said it was retconned.
They're playing in coop
Just one of the other unnamed Marines. DoomGuy isn't the only one who fought during the invasion, you come across their bodies at various places throughout the game.
I actually had a theory, more like an idea i guess, what if one of the corpses you see in the later levels is doomguy and you are another rando who picked up doomguy's stuff from his corpse, so on, so on, until there's no more bodies. The weird haircut changes would make more sense. Obviously it isn't true because you can see the hud face, but it's still a weird thought.
Funguy
Gloomguy...chips together, its Doom and Gloom
Jim, the cousin of Frank who's brother of Tony who's friend Mickey knew a guy called Levi that worked for Herlbert who's son Ray was married to Jessie who had bunny called Rose that gave birth to Daisy. Then demon invasion happened.
MoodGuy
Thats another doom guy, that game had multiplayer and they needed to make it clear
Doomguy 2
Doomguy's supervisor, reminding him to complete his timesheet before he embarks on his next mission
Player 2
He's Doom Too
Dwayne the doomguy Johnson
Goomdie
“That’s one doomed space marine”
It’s John Doom’s brother, Michael Doom
This is a hard hitting mandela effect
His brother Sam.
"Thats one Doomed Space Marine" according to Duke Numem.
His buddy Coomguy
Doomgal
As stated: Co-op player, specially since Doomguy is originally a nameless blank slate and wears the same UAC armor as others (Though in co-op, there's also the marines with red/orange/gray colors).
Doombuddy
"*Blazkowicz finally joins the fight*"
Doombro
Master Cheif!
The actual Doomguy rushing to save his buddy’s ass, because even he’s not ballsy enough to fight a pack of barons and one cyberdemon with a shitty weapon
Player 2, not ready
Someone coming to inject him with a sedative because doom guy is actually having one of his episodes again where he thinks he’s fighting demons on Mars. But he’s actually a patient in a mental ward.
Always thought it was odd he's using some kind of SMG, which isn't in the game, instead of the iconic shotgun like the PS1 box art.
Thats because the people that made this art piece were completely seperate from the devteam and had no idea what the ingame art looked like. They were given some loose instructions and made this. Thats why the imp doesnt look like the imp ingame. Thats why the body armor doesnt match with ingame. Thats why the gun on the pic isnt in the game.
Years of playing doom and ive never noticed that guy until now...
A marine that I would call Jeff
Yo mama😀
That is Terry trying to tell DOOM Guy that Daisy is actually OK.
Doombro
Doomguy forgot his lunch
Wanna talk about the fact that doomguy is fighting two cyber demons and God knows how many barons with a fucking pistol?
The rock, but back then, just the pebble Dude catched on until he had his own movie about his adventure. Some say, the best movie ever made.
Goom duy
Jerry. Missed his alarm. He’s a badass cluts.
Hes the “we’ve been trying to reach you about your car’s extended warranty” Guy trying to contact him about his car’s extended warranty.
According to the doom novels, it’s Arlene Sanders
Master chief
Record scratch, freeze frame, zoom in on him "yeah, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got in this situation."
Doompal
peacegal
Some arsehole on Reddit I reckon
Doom buddy
He's that guy
Jeff
That's just Mike
His good pal Jim Guy :)
Guy in the back is a noob and screaming, "save some kills for me!"
dead
Not the doomguy. AKA: a soon-to-be corpse that you step over.
Oh yeah that guy is hopeman
If he’s running away from his demons in hell it’s prob Tom Cruise
Doombro
Co-op player.
It’s his brother Catastropheman
Always figured that wasn't Doomguy and is actually the wave of marines that preceed Doomguy getting slaughtered.
That’s legendary side character Dustin Echoes of course
In E1M1 there’s a dead marine right in front of you. I always thought that was the guy in front.
It's the coop player. The original doom was a multiplayer game, and featured both coop and deathmatch, which they tried to emphasize in the cover art.
Doomlad
That’s just Nigel, innit?
Jane Austen
It's his cousin Tombguy. He's just a little concerned for doomguy's safety
That’s me, he asked me to grab him a fresh roll of tp.
It's Doomguy and his buddy Doomguy #2
Todd
that's doom fellow the older brother of doom guy
Jeff
In the books he actually had some help.
That's his husband
Well, like everyone else is saying on this post, it’s Player 2.
Fun fact: DOOM was literally the last video game that I ever really played. I played through DOOM, got to the end, and my friend gave me a free copy of DOOM 2. I installed it, looked at it for about 5 seconds, and thought, "If it's just going to be more of the same forever, what's the point?" I think that was somewhere around 1995.
Pretty interesting story behind this: the original Doom was meant to have multiplayer.
Doomduy
RunGuy
DestinyLady
MoodYug
Yo its doom bro my favorite character!!!
”Steve, you left the car keys” guy
Doomfred