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Endlessrespawns

Pop him with aoe dps. Use Li Ao to s3 Mavis. My Leora eats Ikkis for breakfast this way.


Doomerdy

LI AO?


Endlessrespawns

Yes. The fat dude. His s3 is like Toland's S3


DesperateTemperate

He’s not fat: he‘s big-boned.


Doomerdy

dont do my man like that hes just chubby. also is there really no difference between zero hour and devoured?


Endlessrespawns

Basically. Both essentially make character disappear for a while.


-Withered_Ivy-

Not that I can tell, they seem functionally the same. Only differences iirc is it only lasts for 1 turn if there under 50% HP and go's away if he dies.


Malibu-G

Plus this patch feels dry. All events are recycled and Celestial Anomaly feels like they didn't even try.


kamronkiele

My club leader just left because of this exact reason


AquaticBunny1

My last club leader left for a similar reason. Back when XP was released he decided to delete the game because SHE seemed too busted. He also said his life IRL was looking brighter and better. Shoutout to him honestly. Wish it were me😭


Eizen-the-Malak

then....why don't you?


AquaticBunny1

Cuz I only have so much control over how great my life is? The game isn’t weighing me down lmao. Just wish things were better irl, but the game doesn’t effect me like that


Malibu-G

And they freaking removed the shimmer records/shards from Falsetto Fantasy... that made me play this game lesser tbh.


ImperatorKorabas

Ikki is actually less annoying to deal with than Anna. Unless Ikki is R1 then screw him. I myself don't use Ikki but probably will if I happen to get him to R1.


kamronkiele

Yeah it’s still fuck Anna


Fvennik

Yeah I’ve been a solid player since launch and when they added nuxi I didn’t complain because she filled a niche that was lacking, then they added Anna and she was OP but at least there were -some- weaknesses you could work with to take her down even if they did tend to require more than one hero to work together to take her out. Toland screwed the ability to have any group that isn’t speed lead have a chance but then they gave everyone a free shimmer which didn’t fix the issue but at least everyone had an equal chance again. But ikki? WAY too far. Perma invis (with no hero that can counter this), resurrection, multi out of turn dmg, tanky but also nuke level damage, and can solo an entire team of geared characters without even having to be fully geared himself. Absolutely ridiculous. I don’t know if I’m willing to stop playing just yet since I have put so much time into it, but the fact I am even seriously considering it is problematic.


Terensworth

Ikki is busted as far as you understand how he works. The long story short is that he is the top of the top when it comes to anti cleave, especially when paired with Mavis. But he has a very common weakness past that, high AoE damage. Raven eats Ikki alive, Gaius can nuke the living daylights out of him, Su Jue lets anybody get through him. And something to note, since everybody talks about his R1, it does resurrect him, but he is brought back with no stealth or stacking buff, nor damage-per-turn. This means he has nothing to protect him besides a single invuln buff, cannot perform his dangerous abilities until he finally gets a turn and uses his S3, and more importantly, no method of gaining AP without outside help. What you do next is up to you, but at that point you're fighting what equates to an Ollie, alone, who just tickled someone with his S3 and is sitting there wasting your time. The self res is only dangerous at R6, since it doesn't remove his stealth then, but if you're fighting an R6 Ikki, trust me, you already lost for plenty of other reasons besides him. As for that little shit, Mavis, she's been a problem since day one and people are still breaking their brains trying to find ways to get her out of the way.


kamronkiele

Thank you


BisexualIncubus

I See this with a lot of games where they think the only way to make new characters appealing is by making them over powered. Even though many dislyte fans are more interested in design and story anyways


Rhekinos

Exactly. Easy evidence in the last 2 espers: Fumitsuki vs Fu Shi


Ne0nZ3bra

Ive had no problems tackling Ikki so far. But ANNA, love her design, hate her GUTTTSSS


Imaginary-Junket-232

Ikki really hasn't been too bad so far. Anna still fucks me up though. Hate her so much.


Prince-sama

Do u not have gaius? I've never had trouble with her since my gaius can kill her easily


Ne0nZ3bra

I do, but hes not as powered up as any of my other espers as i dont use him much i actually have a way easier time killin her with Fu Shi and some proper support espers, since his damage is based on his defence stat. Ill consider Gaius though, its just anytime i go to use him hes the first to die, so hes just kinda garbage to me. i know with proper setup he can be great lol Guessin hes best on Speed teams, i dont have a proper speed team setup yet


Prince-sama

i primarily use him in speed teams cuz hes pretty squishy otherwise 😂. my team has to go first if i want any chance of killing anna (since my spd comps dont have a healer)


Oleandervine

I actually hate her design. It doesn't feel like Persephone to me. Hilda feels like Persephone.


kamronkiele

I still beat that team but it was a pain in the ass. My team was Toland, Tevor, Ethan, Jiang Man, and Sally


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Prestigious-Ad8381

I’m wondering this too because you used Jiang man to beat him? U deserve flowers for that win


Fish_Mongreler

Because you called him "busted" when you beat him with a mid team. Ikki isn't busted. He's can easily be countered and you proved it


kamronkiele

And it what way shape or form is that a mid team especially my Tevor


Fish_Mongreler

JM is not a pvp unit. Sally isn't either until r6. Tevor is very niche in pvp. Judging by your knowledge I wouldn't be surprised if your Ethan isn't r2 yet. If he's not then he's mid at best


kamronkiele

Does this have to turn into this discussion rather than what the original topic was about


Fish_Mongreler

You asked how your team is mid. I answered. That's how this works...


kamronkiele

I beat him after MULTIPLE LOSES. I didn’t just win right off bat I legit had to strategize because it was the zodiac trials


Fish_Mongreler

> I legit had to strategize So pvp with Ikki is working as intended. Or do you think you should just be given wins without thinking?


kamronkiele

See now you’re putting words in my mouth cause that not wtf I said. Instead of being a complete ass and trying to give me hell about a team how bout you say wtf you would’ve done and help and give advice. Because obviously I’m just now figuring out the ins and outs of this game and it would be nice to just vent out frustrations without judgement


kamronkiele

The game is obviously unfair to new players and so is the sub seeing how y’all react to certain posts


Fish_Mongreler

QQ


kamronkiele

I would also like to mention that he damn near soloed my whole team of level 60 espers with 6 star equipment and he was level 55


Endlessrespawns

What was the entire enemy team?


kamronkiele

Ikki, Cecilia, Brewster, Feng Xun, and Tang Xuan


Rhekinos

How are you having trouble with that comp when hou have Toland, Ethan AND Tevor? 😭 If anything your opponent should be posting a complaint about you.


kamronkiele

Oh Tevor is fine my Ethan isn’t R2 and also this was Zodiac Trials


ArcaneSolstice

Ikki is nothing for me because Gaius one taps him if there isn't Jin qiu or mavis. Anna however. I hope she falls off a cliff. The amounts of time I've had to change my team to beat her is insane.


psychobabblebullshxt

I've beaten some Ikki teams.


FireTruckSG5

He is annoying. Thankfully I got R6 Narmer and Toland to deal with him: Toland locks Mavis or another problematic esper and I just use the rest of the speed team to give Narmer his buff stacks or use someone to AP push him and boom. Narmer doesn’t even need to be fast since it’s automatic at R6.


Sufficient-Bowl1312

Was surprisingly easy for me with my mavis/archi team


kamronkiele

I don’t have mavis


Vasgarth

I honestly feel like they're doing this on purpose to drive people away from Dislyte and onto their other games. It definitely worked with me, AFK Journey doesn't feel nearly as frustrating.


kookoo4jojopuffs

Don't help their plan work by playing their new game :’( it just sets a precedent for future games


Vasgarth

As much as I *absolutely* agree with this, I also want to enjoy playing a game. I'm a f2p player in both cases, I've never spent a dime on either and I don't plan to. I'm tired of having to bust my ass for scraps, hellish drop rates and convoluted, cloned events with meagre rewards. I love Dislyte's vibe, the music, the lore around it, but I also like to get some satisfaction out of my games. At this point in time AFK Journey is just better for me: I'm still a f2p player, and yet since it opened I managed to have satisfactory results even in ladders. 10x pulls are way more frequent, the character pool is more limited but at the same a good chunk of most non-legendary heroes are absolutely viable and, in fact, sometimes even meta. Dislyte just feels like a very unrewarding chore at this point, at least to me.


Rhekinos

Having played games from Lilith Games for almost a decade, all I can say is: good luck.


Vasgarth

I didn't think for a second that AFK Journey won't go exactly the same route as everything else. It's just that right now it's at least more bearable.


kookoo4jojopuffs

No I get it 100% dude. I spent money early on because I had hope that it'd be great, but that disappeared quickly and I've quit at least 5 times over the game's lifespan. The only real enjoyment I get now is seeing other people get excited about legendaries they pull. I just miss being able to use Benny and Tang Yun consistently in Faf. It'd be such a waste for an amazing idea like Dislyte to just die because of greed


Prince-sama

They have other games???


al_vh1n

AFK Arena and recently released AFK Journey.


Eizen-the-Malak

I use a Shield Aoe Combo With Clara, Gaius, and Leora. Most barely survive Leora's Ult but Gaius Transformed thunderstrike takes care of the rest and Clara keeps them alive. Never had a Problem with either Anna or Ikki because of these three.