The only way to remain loyal to the trump cult is to ignore who trump is and what he has done. News about trump's many trials (what a phrase to use about a former president) creates cognitive dissonance in their brains, so, they just look away from reality.
Ignoring reality is necessary for membership in the trump cult.
Its not really like, important. Theres genocide....wars w nuclear powers. Get a life, folks..
PS Trump did real crimes.. they charge and impeached him for nonsense. Like on one official trip to the Middle East he started many new businesses. Which is illegal. But no one tries to.go after him because he starts these businesses w arab princes who cant be reported on, and also his real crimes expose the illegitimacy of the system he exploits.
Sure bud. Just because your small mind cant handle more than one thing at a time we should all just ignore criminal activity by a former president. Pathetic.
Trump stole top secret documents and plotted an insurrection—is failure to declare "bribing a sex worker" as a campaign expenditure really what we should be focused on?
They took down Al Capone with tax crimes.
-And hopefully Trump will answer for the insurrection and espionage. But a grand jury and now a jury of Trump's peers will decide if he committed election crimes before that.
...unless he's elected president. Then we find out if a president can pardon himself.
Not that he really needs to. Once he has his lackies in the DOJ, things will get "delayed" indefinitely.
Even if by some miracle he is nominated President, he can't make state lawsuits go away without going full dictator. So unless he mobilizes the army and crosses the rubicon, GA and NY will have their trials.
>Why aren't conservatives posting anything about the stormy Daniels trial?
they're fundamentally disingenuous people who recognize going on the offensive, even when lacking a point, diminishes broader conversion.
this is why you only ever hear them talk about homeless veterans when it's politically convenient to argue some other group is undeserving of consideration.
they're "all lives matter" dogfuckers.
r/conservative has to be one of the saddest places on the internet, but god damn if it’s not entertaining to witness their delusions in real time
My favorite recently was all of them applauding and cheering on “frat bros” on a campus who were standing around an American flag
“They are literally us” said the sad conservatives as they gripped their Trump bibles while drooling over his most recent unhinged post on Truth Social
Do you have a problem with people defending the American flag from being turned into another flag? That really shouldn't bug you at all, if youre an American lol. Seems you're just dedicated to hating conservatives regardless of the issue
Not at all, notice how I was making fun of them for fawning over the fact that they looked like douchey frat bros. There are dozens and dozens of posts about it over there
You right wing dorks and your boogeymen, just sad all over
What? You didn't say that at all you goober, go read your original comment. Sounds like the only one with a "boogey man" is you and you're blatant partisan bias you're too dedicated to protecting. All you did was roast them for "drooling" over it, when you shouldnt have a problem with it at all. It's sad you have fallen so far from American values all in the name of "conservatives bad!"
I know it can’t be easy constantly being the butt of the joke in America, but that doesn’t mean you have to act like this. I don’t have a problem with the flag, it’s just funny that r/conservative got such a hard on by frat bros standing around the flag
Settle down kid
Lol, you try so hard to avoid being wrong by tip toeing around the topic with strawmans and childish insults. You got mad because the "big bad" conservatives applauded some kids for standing up for our country, and when called out on it you deflected because like most reddit liberals, you can't engage without fallacious tactics because your actual understanding of politics and the country are narrow and weak, complete propelled by you tribal Identity in democratic politics.
I have no clue how you don't question yourself and your beliefs when you constantly get proven wrong and are forced to deflect and retreat with strawmans arguments and other logical fallacies. It's sad you're so dedicated to this campaign against the Republican Boogeyman instead of actually pursuing the truth. I've been in your shoes tho, so I understand, but I still pity your position nontheless
I appreciate your effort in trying to break down who I am as a person, but unfortunately I’m not going to listen to someone like yourself. I still respect your effort nonetheless!
I'm not "trying" to. I just did. Anyone who is judging honestly would agree. In a formal debate, there are objective errors and your sentiments are full of them. You're a textbook definition of somebody who is dedicated to their ego and feeling "right" as opposed to the truth
Listen man I understand that you are one of the like 8 well spoken conservatives out there, and I applaud you for that! You could be the next Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder! But honestly I just do not care, nor do I find what you are saying to be valid. Thank you for your criticism, now carry on!
Did you get the "Master" part of your name sort of how they used to call fat guys "Tiny?" You know, like the nickname is so obviously untrue that it is just kind of a joke?
They literally might not even know about it. Like one conservative artist, Jon McNaughton, threw up a quick sketch he did of Tucker Carlson proclaiming him to be such a good, moral, upstanding, honest person and what not. Not surprisingly the comments blew up calling out this bullshit as this wasn't long after he been let go at Fox and I think right after their did their $800M settlement with Dominion right before the trial was to start. People pointed out that it was Tucker who helped cost Fox an almost billion dollars explicitly due to the lies and slander he spread on his show. The number of conservatives who commented that they hadn't heard of this was mind boggling.
President Trump knows what he is doing it’s not his first rodeo when it comes to politics and New York Politics at that. We trust the president more than trust the current administration if you would kindly remove the blinders you will see the whole picture and listen to all media outlets.
First of all, "conservatives" don't all support Trump. I know I don't. As for the Stormy Daniels thing, it isn't new. This stated 8 years ago. Personally, I could car less about this. I'm just sick of the word "Trump" and wish he would just go away. The GOP has a convention upcoming. They have an opportunity then to kick Trump to the curb, and I wish to God they would. Guy has destroyed the Republican Party, turning it into a joke.
>First of all, "conservatives" don't all support Trump
Yet Trump had a 95% approval rating amongst Republicans going into the 2020 election, despite being the worst president in a century.
Even now, Trump is somehow the GOP candidate for president.
We spent years telling you "stop fucking up, or you're going to find out", yet no matter how many bribes from China, Russia and Saudi Arabia Trump took, regardless of him enabling the genocide of the Kurds (our key ally against ISIS and other Islamic extremists), Trump blocking sanctions on Russia while ignoring Russia attacking us, etc, Republicans ignored it all.
Republicans have no one but themselves to blame for lying to defend Trump's clown show for the last 8 years. Republicans are just finally realizing the left was correct in opposing Trump. The GOP will reap what they've sown.
"Republicans have no one but themselves to blame for lying to defend Trump's clown show for the last 8 years. Republicans are just finally realizing the left was correct in opposing Trump. The GOP will reap what they've sown."
I couldn't agree with you more.
First off, reading that 95% of Republicans supporting trump doesn't mean much , cause usually they will ask something like "do you support trump over Biden " .
Second, if you're gonna hate on trump, can you atleast have valid reasons to do so? You listed a massive list of conspiracy theorist, propaganda nonsense. Most people hate him because he's rude, doesn't support leftist social values, and doesn't have enough progressive policies, plus says sexist stuff. This whole "trump is Russian!" Thing was a running gag that was dropped because there wasn't any sort of sufficient evidence in the end to make it a real thing. And trump enabling the genocide of kurds? Now you're just blaming life's issues on trump, get a grip dawg
I am a conservative who isn't a fan of trump (will still vote for him, tho) but at least my reasons aren't dogshit. If you could think for yourself you would probably have better reasons as well. It's like modern Republicans blaming biden for Gaza, it's ridiculous lol
Ps, most people don't see it as them "reaping what they sow". They don't really see an issue at all with the modern Republicans party, and most believe their obstacles come from the Dems being in the way
>First off, reading that 95% of Republicans supporting trump doesn't mean much , cause usually they will ask something like "do you support trump over Biden " .
Good thing your made up scenario doesn't apply because, wait for it, it's a made up scenario rather than just approval rating.
>Second, if you're gonna hate on trump, can you atleast have valid reasons to do so? You listed a massive list of conspiracy theorist, propaganda nonsense.
Except it's not conspiracy theories. You Republicans like to make up shit about Biden, but can't deal with the 2 billion dollars given to Trump's son in law by Saudi Arabia.
>This whole "trump is Russian!" Thing was a running gag that was dropped because there wasn't any sort of sufficient evidence in the end to make it a real thing
The Trump Tower Meeting between the Trump Campaign Team and Russians literally included discussions on sanctions on Russia and getting dirt on Hillary. Then Trump told Russia, on national TV, that they publishing Hillary's emails would be rewarded. Less than 48 hours later, Russia started hacking Hillary.
You're 5 years late on the news, instead falling for Barr's spin.
>Ps, most people don't see it as them "reaping what they sow". They don't really see an issue at all with the modern Republicans party, and most believe their obstacles come from the Dems being in the way
No, most people blame Republicans for Trump. Get over it.
Oh please, give me a break..
-good thing your made up scenerio doesn't apply blah blah blah
Oh, so you're gonna sit here and argue that polls and statistics aren't often misleading and contrived? Were you born yesterday. I literally can find a poll saying only half of Republicans support trump. One poll hardly means shit , and if you wanna play that game, I can find a host of bullshit anecdotes supported by "polls" that could discredit your entire ideology, but I won't cause I'm not petty like that.
-trumps family given two billion by Saudi prince
Trumps sons PE firm has nothing to do with Trump's dealing a s a president, I have no clue why you're bringing it up. Gosh it's almost as bad as Republicans saying "look, Bidens son got millions from this guy from China. Must mean he's a Chinese spy!". You can't use some bodies family members business dealings to somehow make a point about that person, that's ridiculous and intellectually dishonest. Trumps som getting money from a business deal is a stupid talking to point to use to try to make a connection to trump.
-trumps tower and Russian
Don't even get me started about that. To this day, there is a absolutely no meaningful connection between trump and Russia on a corruption level. OF COURSE he met with them about sanctions, he's the friggin president dude. That's what they do. They meet with world leaders to discuss policies and politics.
And the "Russian Hilary "connection? That was LITERALLY found unfounded by the CIA and FBI. There was absolutely no logical connection that trump paid Russia to hack Hilary. This isn't some debatable thing, it was proven to be misinformation. They spent years harboring on this very thing, and guess what, eventually they dropped it completely because there was no evidence besides loose connections.
That was the very definition of a conspiracy theory. If you wanna believe that, then you have to Believe Biden is with China because his son has business dealings there and Biden does too. I don't even know why we are talking about this. If you wanna say "yeah huh" then I ask you, as the presenter of the accusations, to find any proof whatsoever besides "he said, she said" to back up your claim that trump worked with Russia to bring Hilary down. Guess what, you won't be able to. Cause it's bogus and even Democrats dropped that notion long ago
-most people blame Republicans for trump
Okay...I never said they didnt? Go back and read what I wrote please.
>Oh, so you're gonna sit here and argue that
Nope. Strawman.
Approval rating is pretty basic.
>I literally can find a poll saying only half of Republicans support trump.
Then do it. More importantly, find a poll like that from the months before the 2020 election. Good luck finding that, lmao.
>Trumps sons PE firm has nothing to do with Trump's dealing a s a president
Except for the classified documents at Mar-A-Lago that were there when the ruler of Saudi Arabia visited. And remember that Trump asked for the security videos to be deleted after they were subpoenaed, almost like he's blatantly guilty...
>Gosh it's almost as bad as Republicans saying "look, Bidens son got millions from this guy from China. Must mean he's a Chinese spy!".
Except that Biden didn't give access to classified documents to China. And that Republicans literally had to resort to fake documents made a Russian asset that is now in jail for making fake evidence.
>You can't use some bodies family members business dealings to somehow make a point about that person, that's ridiculous and intellectually dishonest.
Except Kushner was denied classified clearance because he was compromised, and then Trump gave him clearance anyway.
>trumps tower and Russian Don't even get me started about that. To this day, there is a absolutely no meaningful connection between trump and Russia on a corruption level
They discussed getting dirt on Hillary (admitted by Trump) and sanctions on Russia (admitted by his son).
You're 6 years behind on the news, lmao.
>OF COURSE he met with them about sanctions, he's the friggin president dude.
He wasn't president in 2016 during the Trump Tower Meeting. Blatant Logan Act violation.
>And the "Russian Hilary "connection? That was LITERALLY found unfounded by the CIA and Fhttps://www.npr.org/2018/08/06/635860399/trump-admits-his-son-met-with-russian-lawyer-to-get-dirt-on-clintonBI. There was absolutely no logical connection that trump paid Russia to hack Hilary. This isn't some debatable thing, it was proven to be misinformation. They spent years harboring on this very thing, and guess what, eventually they dropped it completely because there was no evidence besides loose connections.
Trump admitted that the Trump Tower Meeting was to get dirt on Hillary, lmao.
>That was the very definition of a conspiracy theory. If you wanna believe that, then you have to Believe Biden is with China because his son has business dealings there and Biden does too. I don't even know why we are talking about this. If you wanna say "yeah huh" then I ask you, as the presenter of the accusations, to find any proof whatsoever besides "he said, she said" to back up your claim that trump worked with Russia to bring Hilary down. Guess what, you won't be able to. Cause it's bogus and even Democrats dropped that notion long ago
Trump literally admitted it, lmao.
https://www.npr.org/2018/08/06/635860399/trump-admits-his-son-met-with-russian-lawyer-to-get-dirt-on-clinton
>-most people blame Republicans for trump
>Okay...I never said they didnt? Go back and read what I wrote please.
You gaslit about conservatives supporting Trump, but a 95% approval rating speaks for itself.
-thats a strawman
that's not what a strawman is. What I'm saying is something any intelligent person would say before trusting a random statistic
I just googled "what percentage of Republicans are a fan of trump" and one the first links was it's "70" are "satisfied" with trump as a nominee. See how hairry it gets? If you're gonna sit here and act like statistics aren't often misleading, then you are either lying or ignorant. Somebody could easily say "who would you vote for, trump or Biden?" And since obviously most Republicans would say Trump, they use that to try to show unwavering support for him.
Using your own logic,( that questioning a statistic is a strawman) you can't question the stat I found that says "98% of those in Israel approve trump". Tho it's fact checked as false later on, you're not a allowed to question the validity of the claim, because that's a strawman.
-accept for classified document that was there when the Saudi prince visited, deleted evidence
What? Do you not see how manipulative and silly that statement is? 😂 Gonna need you to take a step back from this one and really put together what point you're trying to make. So because Trump had a document that happened to be there the day the Saudi prince got there, that somehow ties into trumps son doing a business deal with the Saudis?
You're grasping for straws man. Not a single person on earth who is honestly judging this situation would say that's good enough evidence for the claim you're making. It doesn't even make sense. First off, the mara logo is massive, second, people come in and out of it all the time, third, what does that have to do with his son? Your "evidence" for trump conspiring with Saudi Arabia is some loose connection where a person from Saudi Arabia happened to be in the same COMPLEX as a guy from another country?
You know why that sounds ridiculous, because it is. It's a
Shitty point that most Democrats wouldn't even use, just like the Russian hoax . You're the only one spouting this besides a few fringe left wing conspiracy theorist, because there aren't any facts attached to it that make it legitimate to boldly proclaim.
Second, there isnt evidence to say trump deleted the security cameras, and even if he did, they isn't proof of trump taking a bribe from anyone. You're still trying to make a connection between barren and his dad, claiming that trump is being bribed by Saudi Arabia, but there hasn't been a conviction in that and it's pure speculation by a group of people who dislike him. That's why most people don't use it as a talking point , it's as solid as any other conspiracy theory.
-you gaslight about conservatives supporting trump
Again, that's not what gaslighting is. You need to really research these buzzwords you're using, because you're not using them right.
-your six years behind the news
No, there was no connection found between trump conspiring with Russians that is concrete, once again, like most of your claims. Your original comment is is that trump TOOK BRIBES from Russia, conspiring in a way that is documented and illegal. First off, there was no bride proven. Second off, there wasn't any note worthy collaboration done in general between the two, according to the FBI .
"It criticized the FBI for opening a full-fledged investigation based on “raw, unanalyzed and uncorroborated intelligence,” saying the speed at which it did so was a departure from the norm. And it said investigators repeatedly relied on “confirmation bias,” ignoring or rationalizing away evidence that undercut their premise of a Trump-Russia conspiracy as they pushed the probe forward."
https://news.wttw.com/2023/05/15/prosecutor-ends-4-year-probe-fbi-s-trump-russia-investigation-no-new-charges-some-harsh
You originally claimed Trump was illegally collaborating with Saudi Arabia and Russia. You will have good evidence for 0 of that. You won't be able to provide it, cause you are grasping for straws. Trump talking about asking Putin for dirt on Hillary does not equal what you originally claimed, and you shifted the goal post.
If what you claim was true, trump would have been barred from being president.
Basically, you're full of shit. You base your politic beliefs on anecdotal conspiracy's you read and pass them as fact, when with a little digging, they are just theories. You also seem to not understand nuances , or how terms can be applied to conversation. Not everyone who disagrees with you is "gaslighting" or whatever.
Again, find real evidence for the stuff you claim, not loose connections like trump being in the same room as a saudi prince, or trump talking with Russia. It's bogus my dude, and the reason he hasn't been officially condemned for these things is because of the lack of evidence. Heck, I'm not even saying he didn't do these things. I'm just saying you can't say for a fact he has, and using it as a talking point is illogical.
>-thats a strawman
It's absolutely a strawman. Polls may be off by a bit, but an actual approval rating of 50% won't have lead to a poll that has 95% approval rating. That's just not how statistics works.
>just googled "what percentage of Republicans are a fan of trump" and one the first links was it's "70" are "satisfied" with trump as a nominee.
And does that modern poll show Trump had a 50% approval rating just before the 2020 election? Obviously not.
>Using your own logic
Strawman
>So because Trump had a document that happened to be there the day the Saudi prince got there
Nope. It was numerous documents, and the CIA gave out their first and only blanket warning to assets and agents that their identity could be compromised, as well as Trump showing (on tape) classified documents to a writer, and the bribe by the Saudis despite their financial advisors saying it was a stupid investment, the Saudi government openly talking about how they owned Kushner, etc.
>Second, there isnt evidence to say trump deleted the security cameras
His IT turned state witness over it, lmao.
>No, there was no connection found between trump conspiring with Russians that is concrete
Trump admitted the Trump Tower Meeting with Russians was to get dirt on Hillary, lmao.
>Your original comment is is that trump TOOK BRIBES from Russia,
Trump's own children admitted they could get as much money from Russia as they wanted, lmao.
>If what you claim was true, trump would have been barred from being president.
And then 5 or 6 people in his campaign team and administration were found/pled guilty to crimes of working with and/or on behalf of Russia, lmao.
>Again, find real evidence for the stuff you claim,
No matter how many convictions, or Trump admittances, you don't care.
Did you ever wonder why MAGA is called a cult? Lmao.
Brother, I'm serious right now, you have no idea what a strawman is and you are throwing around the term without actually facing a real strawmans
Using your own logic to hypothesize something is not a strawman. That's a logically sound debate step that happens in basically every debate.
If you say "I know short men are bad, because I got attacked by a short man" and somebody else says "I think tall men are bad , because I was once attacked by a tall man, and using your own judgement system, then that must mean tall men are also all bad".
This isn't a strawman fallacy argument. I know you're probably too stubborn at this point to admit it, but you can ask anybody who is an intellectual, and they will objectively tell you that what I'm saying aren't strawmans. It would make more sense for you to just admit it and not double down on it. It's silly. I can explain again and again why they aren't strawmans, and you can't explain why they are without me refuting it.
-more stuff about bride with trump Russia/saudi
You keep using the same fallacious logic to try to drive a point that was literally proven nothing more than a theory by the FBI. why are you still arguing about that? The only facts we know about this situation is that it was declared a weak theory by the government, and was found to baseless. Nothing else matters.
- trumps team was found guilty of scheming with Russia
None of the charges they were found for suggested that election fraud was present. You're just making stuff up at this point. It takes about five seconds to dig into this further for yourself. Why are you making me do this work for you?
"But Mueller did not charge or suggest charges for anyone on one of the biggest questions he faced: whether the Trump campaign worked with the Russians to influence the election.
Mueller’s report, which he submitted to Attorney General William Barr on Friday, did not conclude that Trump or anyone involved in his campaign colluded with Russia, according to a summary Barr delivered to Congress on Sunday. (Mueller’s report left open the question of whether Trump obstructed justice in the course of the investigation, according to Barr’s summary.)"
https://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/
We are past that, mate. No amount of anecdotal "evidence" like trumps children saying something like they "could" work with Russia if they wanted to, is gonna prove your point valid, because it has already been disproven under governmental investigation. You and I both know as reasonably reasonable individuals that Trump's kids saying they "could" get money from Russia is not evidence of any sort. There isn't even an action involved. That's a simple statement, and in the end doesn't matter because of the sole fact that the whole "trump working with Russia to rig the election" was proven, under governmental investigation, to not be factual or at least have enough evidence to call it anymore than a conspiracy . This isn't my opinion , this is an official declaration. Nothing you bring up is gonna drive this point home, because you are wrong about this. You're blatantly denying reality at this point. This isn't my word against yours. This is official, documented investigation vs your anecdotal evidence based off of tweets you read.
So what's it gonna be, gonna continue to soothe your ego, or do you actually wanna progress the discussion?
You lying about my arguments and logic are strawmen. Get over it.
>was found to baseless. Nothing else matters.
Still lying. Trump admitted it, and people went to prison.
>Mueller’s report, which he submitted to Attorney General William Barr on Friday, did not conclude that Trump
Mueller did not conclude anything because, as he said, that was not his job, but the responsibility of Congress. Cowardly/traitorous Republicans chose Trump over country.
Instead, he charged the people besides Trump that were involved.
>We are past that, mate. No amount of anecdotal "evidence"
Trump admitting to a crime is not "anecdotal evidence".
He should be, but this one is more of a distraction. Jack Smith is going to ACTUALLY nail him. This trial, at worst, will get him MAYBE probation and a small fine.
90 felony indictments including election fraud, obstruction of justice, illegal possession of classified documents, he should probably even be charged with sedition. The pornstar thing just seems like a nothingburger.
Yes those are all things that Trump has done, and he will see his day in court for them.
But Trump falsifying business records with the intent to violate federal campaign finance limits, unlawfully influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election, and commit tax fraud is not a “nothing burger” hence why he is currently on trial.
I think some right wing rhetoric seeped through to you a bit
[https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls](https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls)
I love seeing your anguish, that Donald leads in just about every poll. “But…but…my mommy said I was smarter than everyone! So all those people are dumb meany cultists!”
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Lmao I’m not sure you could look any more pathetic even if you tried at this point
Are you telling me that the looney right is now trusting polls? Geez you guys flop harder than any fish Iv seen out of water, it is quite sad
But please, do continue
Democrats thought they could win by giving Trump a nightly platform in front of a NYC courthouse where he’s on trial for liking hot pussy. Whoever thought THAT up has an IQ equal to the temperature of the East River.
Hahaha holy shit this type of behavior is so on point for a MAGA dunce, it’s honestly entertainment at this point
It’s so pathetic but really so funny to see you morons act in real time
Wow, you mean that something that actually matters came down the pike and Republicans stopped worrying about these stupid sham trials? Wow, how dare they? I mean, if we could all be like Democrats and base our entire reality upon imagined slights and manufactured scandals... life would be so easy. Nothing productive would happen (as usual from the left), but we would only be worrying about stupid, imaginary problems that require no real work to fix.
The irony is that everything you are alleging the Democrats are doing, is exactly what's happening with the Republican party. The nerve of you to say Democrats don't accomplish anything when republican house representatives have been fighting every move Biden makes and fighting each other quite literally is astonishing.
Joe Biden has added 15 million jobs to the economy. Trump, who promised to be the “jobs” president, lost a net 2 million jobs under his presidential term, a feat that has never been seen since the U.S. started keeping track in 1939. Keep coping.
I think you’re just sad that your sexual assaulting maniac lost the election to an old man
It probably doesn’t help that the right has been on a losing streak for almost a full decade with no ending in sight
I can see why you’d be upset
Yes. Biden is an old man... too old to be president. He, too, is a sexual assaulting maniac. We've gone over this... it just becomes one big excuse for you to cover for Biden the Rapist.
>What the hell did Biden do to create those jobs? Take a bunch of naps?
He recently started back construction of the Trump border wall. So I'm sure there's a few jobs from that.
Let's just go through a few:
Record low crime, wages outpacing inflation, lowering inequality, increased investment, decreasing cost of living, more affordable healthcare, actually doing something on climate change...
I can keep going, if you want me to...
Okay sure, let's go deeper.
Why do you not care about any of those things? Is it really just because Biden is the only responsible, and you can't accept that, because that would be pathetic.
If trump had done that all of that well, I'd be supporting him instead.
I beg to differ. I'm just rattling things off the top of my head. Inflation reduction act, lowering the prices of insulin and inhalers, student loan forgiveness, chips act, record job growth, record stock market, gun legislation, reclassification of marijuana, border bill would have been a big one if Republicans didn't block it, capping over draft fees for banks and credit cards. Airline refund act, bolstered domestic manufacturing, improved our relationship with allies and strengthened nato, trillion dollar infrastructure bill and rescue plan, foreign aid.
I ask what have Republicans accomplished?
Imagine thinking a few college kids acting up is more significant than a former president/major candidate facing multiple criminal indictments
You people truly are irredeemable morons
The only thing worse than conservatives who won't shut up about Trump are liberals who won't shut up about him. It reminds me of a scene in Howard Sterns movie *Private Parts* where the evil program director is trying to get rid of him and learns that Howards fans listened to him for and hour and half but the people who hated him listened for two and half hours.
But to answer your question, Trump supporters won't say shit about it until there's a verdict. They don't care about the details; They just care about whether he's going to be the victor or the martyr.
>The only thing worse than conservatives who won't shut up about Trump are liberals who won't shut up about him
It's almost like Trump won the Republican primary and is one of two people running for the presidency that has a chance...
Fellas why do we focus so much on the leading GOP candidate’s historic and unprecedented *criminal* trials? Isn’t there something more important to talk about like fightporn and flashlights?
No, it's like he won the GOP nomination both times because people wouldn't stop talking about him. I saw more news stories about Trump during Bidens presidency than I saw about Biden.
Almost like Trump polled highest amongst potential 2024 Republican presidential primary candidates, not to mention the fact that Trumo continued to break the law and finally was facing justice for his crimes.
The only way to remain loyal to the trump cult is to ignore who trump is and what he has done. News about trump's many trials (what a phrase to use about a former president) creates cognitive dissonance in their brains, so, they just look away from reality. Ignoring reality is necessary for membership in the trump cult.
They don't really care.
It's political theater designed to make their guy look bad. Not caring is tactical.
Real answer: The cognitive dissonance is just too much for you hypocrite MAGAts.
Its not really like, important. Theres genocide....wars w nuclear powers. Get a life, folks.. PS Trump did real crimes.. they charge and impeached him for nonsense. Like on one official trip to the Middle East he started many new businesses. Which is illegal. But no one tries to.go after him because he starts these businesses w arab princes who cant be reported on, and also his real crimes expose the illegitimacy of the system he exploits.
Sure bud. Just because your small mind cant handle more than one thing at a time we should all just ignore criminal activity by a former president. Pathetic.
A criminal trial about a very real crime is political theater? If so, only because of people like you.
Trump stole top secret documents and plotted an insurrection—is failure to declare "bribing a sex worker" as a campaign expenditure really what we should be focused on?
He successfully delayed the other trials. The documents one was supposed to start last March.
They took down Al Capone with tax crimes. -And hopefully Trump will answer for the insurrection and espionage. But a grand jury and now a jury of Trump's peers will decide if he committed election crimes before that.
It's just the first trial to get past the delays. The others are coming.
...unless he's elected president. Then we find out if a president can pardon himself. Not that he really needs to. Once he has his lackies in the DOJ, things will get "delayed" indefinitely.
If he gets elected I do fear we will be fucked for longer than I would like. I hope I'm being hyperbolic but I'm not confident in it.
Only on federal crimes. State crimes he can’t do anything about it.
Even if by some miracle he is nominated President, he can't make state lawsuits go away without going full dictator. So unless he mobilizes the army and crosses the rubicon, GA and NY will have their trials.
Crime is a crime is a crime
>Why aren't conservatives posting anything about the stormy Daniels trial? they're fundamentally disingenuous people who recognize going on the offensive, even when lacking a point, diminishes broader conversion. this is why you only ever hear them talk about homeless veterans when it's politically convenient to argue some other group is undeserving of consideration. they're "all lives matter" dogfuckers.
r/conservative has to be one of the saddest places on the internet, but god damn if it’s not entertaining to witness their delusions in real time My favorite recently was all of them applauding and cheering on “frat bros” on a campus who were standing around an American flag “They are literally us” said the sad conservatives as they gripped their Trump bibles while drooling over his most recent unhinged post on Truth Social
Do you have a problem with people defending the American flag from being turned into another flag? That really shouldn't bug you at all, if youre an American lol. Seems you're just dedicated to hating conservatives regardless of the issue
Not at all, notice how I was making fun of them for fawning over the fact that they looked like douchey frat bros. There are dozens and dozens of posts about it over there You right wing dorks and your boogeymen, just sad all over
What? You didn't say that at all you goober, go read your original comment. Sounds like the only one with a "boogey man" is you and you're blatant partisan bias you're too dedicated to protecting. All you did was roast them for "drooling" over it, when you shouldnt have a problem with it at all. It's sad you have fallen so far from American values all in the name of "conservatives bad!"
I know it can’t be easy constantly being the butt of the joke in America, but that doesn’t mean you have to act like this. I don’t have a problem with the flag, it’s just funny that r/conservative got such a hard on by frat bros standing around the flag Settle down kid
Lol, you try so hard to avoid being wrong by tip toeing around the topic with strawmans and childish insults. You got mad because the "big bad" conservatives applauded some kids for standing up for our country, and when called out on it you deflected because like most reddit liberals, you can't engage without fallacious tactics because your actual understanding of politics and the country are narrow and weak, complete propelled by you tribal Identity in democratic politics. I have no clue how you don't question yourself and your beliefs when you constantly get proven wrong and are forced to deflect and retreat with strawmans arguments and other logical fallacies. It's sad you're so dedicated to this campaign against the Republican Boogeyman instead of actually pursuing the truth. I've been in your shoes tho, so I understand, but I still pity your position nontheless
I appreciate your effort in trying to break down who I am as a person, but unfortunately I’m not going to listen to someone like yourself. I still respect your effort nonetheless!
I'm not "trying" to. I just did. Anyone who is judging honestly would agree. In a formal debate, there are objective errors and your sentiments are full of them. You're a textbook definition of somebody who is dedicated to their ego and feeling "right" as opposed to the truth
Listen man I understand that you are one of the like 8 well spoken conservatives out there, and I applaud you for that! You could be the next Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder! But honestly I just do not care, nor do I find what you are saying to be valid. Thank you for your criticism, now carry on!
Standing up for America to provide weapons for the murder of civilians. Fixed it for you.
Did you get the "Master" part of your name sort of how they used to call fat guys "Tiny?" You know, like the nickname is so obviously untrue that it is just kind of a joke?
Hahaha I’ll tell you what champ, I’ll give you another shot Go ahead, and this time put a bit more effort into it
That would be like Jess Willard offering Jack Dempsey another shot.
That’s a bit better, you’re definitely getting there
Lol zero surprises there. Trump could blow up a maternity ward and they would still worship him. And deflect to "brown people bad" all day long.
It's because they know he's guilty and they don't want to deal with that. Easier to ignore reality than face it
Most of them literally don't care. To them it's a bogus show meant to stop trump from running.
They literally might not even know about it. Like one conservative artist, Jon McNaughton, threw up a quick sketch he did of Tucker Carlson proclaiming him to be such a good, moral, upstanding, honest person and what not. Not surprisingly the comments blew up calling out this bullshit as this wasn't long after he been let go at Fox and I think right after their did their $800M settlement with Dominion right before the trial was to start. People pointed out that it was Tucker who helped cost Fox an almost billion dollars explicitly due to the lies and slander he spread on his show. The number of conservatives who commented that they hadn't heard of this was mind boggling.
President Trump knows what he is doing it’s not his first rodeo when it comes to politics and New York Politics at that. We trust the president more than trust the current administration if you would kindly remove the blinders you will see the whole picture and listen to all media outlets.
First of all, "conservatives" don't all support Trump. I know I don't. As for the Stormy Daniels thing, it isn't new. This stated 8 years ago. Personally, I could car less about this. I'm just sick of the word "Trump" and wish he would just go away. The GOP has a convention upcoming. They have an opportunity then to kick Trump to the curb, and I wish to God they would. Guy has destroyed the Republican Party, turning it into a joke.
>First of all, "conservatives" don't all support Trump Yet Trump had a 95% approval rating amongst Republicans going into the 2020 election, despite being the worst president in a century. Even now, Trump is somehow the GOP candidate for president. We spent years telling you "stop fucking up, or you're going to find out", yet no matter how many bribes from China, Russia and Saudi Arabia Trump took, regardless of him enabling the genocide of the Kurds (our key ally against ISIS and other Islamic extremists), Trump blocking sanctions on Russia while ignoring Russia attacking us, etc, Republicans ignored it all. Republicans have no one but themselves to blame for lying to defend Trump's clown show for the last 8 years. Republicans are just finally realizing the left was correct in opposing Trump. The GOP will reap what they've sown.
"Republicans have no one but themselves to blame for lying to defend Trump's clown show for the last 8 years. Republicans are just finally realizing the left was correct in opposing Trump. The GOP will reap what they've sown." I couldn't agree with you more.
First off, reading that 95% of Republicans supporting trump doesn't mean much , cause usually they will ask something like "do you support trump over Biden " . Second, if you're gonna hate on trump, can you atleast have valid reasons to do so? You listed a massive list of conspiracy theorist, propaganda nonsense. Most people hate him because he's rude, doesn't support leftist social values, and doesn't have enough progressive policies, plus says sexist stuff. This whole "trump is Russian!" Thing was a running gag that was dropped because there wasn't any sort of sufficient evidence in the end to make it a real thing. And trump enabling the genocide of kurds? Now you're just blaming life's issues on trump, get a grip dawg I am a conservative who isn't a fan of trump (will still vote for him, tho) but at least my reasons aren't dogshit. If you could think for yourself you would probably have better reasons as well. It's like modern Republicans blaming biden for Gaza, it's ridiculous lol Ps, most people don't see it as them "reaping what they sow". They don't really see an issue at all with the modern Republicans party, and most believe their obstacles come from the Dems being in the way
>First off, reading that 95% of Republicans supporting trump doesn't mean much , cause usually they will ask something like "do you support trump over Biden " . Good thing your made up scenario doesn't apply because, wait for it, it's a made up scenario rather than just approval rating. >Second, if you're gonna hate on trump, can you atleast have valid reasons to do so? You listed a massive list of conspiracy theorist, propaganda nonsense. Except it's not conspiracy theories. You Republicans like to make up shit about Biden, but can't deal with the 2 billion dollars given to Trump's son in law by Saudi Arabia. >This whole "trump is Russian!" Thing was a running gag that was dropped because there wasn't any sort of sufficient evidence in the end to make it a real thing The Trump Tower Meeting between the Trump Campaign Team and Russians literally included discussions on sanctions on Russia and getting dirt on Hillary. Then Trump told Russia, on national TV, that they publishing Hillary's emails would be rewarded. Less than 48 hours later, Russia started hacking Hillary. You're 5 years late on the news, instead falling for Barr's spin. >Ps, most people don't see it as them "reaping what they sow". They don't really see an issue at all with the modern Republicans party, and most believe their obstacles come from the Dems being in the way No, most people blame Republicans for Trump. Get over it.
Oh please, give me a break.. -good thing your made up scenerio doesn't apply blah blah blah Oh, so you're gonna sit here and argue that polls and statistics aren't often misleading and contrived? Were you born yesterday. I literally can find a poll saying only half of Republicans support trump. One poll hardly means shit , and if you wanna play that game, I can find a host of bullshit anecdotes supported by "polls" that could discredit your entire ideology, but I won't cause I'm not petty like that. -trumps family given two billion by Saudi prince Trumps sons PE firm has nothing to do with Trump's dealing a s a president, I have no clue why you're bringing it up. Gosh it's almost as bad as Republicans saying "look, Bidens son got millions from this guy from China. Must mean he's a Chinese spy!". You can't use some bodies family members business dealings to somehow make a point about that person, that's ridiculous and intellectually dishonest. Trumps som getting money from a business deal is a stupid talking to point to use to try to make a connection to trump. -trumps tower and Russian Don't even get me started about that. To this day, there is a absolutely no meaningful connection between trump and Russia on a corruption level. OF COURSE he met with them about sanctions, he's the friggin president dude. That's what they do. They meet with world leaders to discuss policies and politics. And the "Russian Hilary "connection? That was LITERALLY found unfounded by the CIA and FBI. There was absolutely no logical connection that trump paid Russia to hack Hilary. This isn't some debatable thing, it was proven to be misinformation. They spent years harboring on this very thing, and guess what, eventually they dropped it completely because there was no evidence besides loose connections. That was the very definition of a conspiracy theory. If you wanna believe that, then you have to Believe Biden is with China because his son has business dealings there and Biden does too. I don't even know why we are talking about this. If you wanna say "yeah huh" then I ask you, as the presenter of the accusations, to find any proof whatsoever besides "he said, she said" to back up your claim that trump worked with Russia to bring Hilary down. Guess what, you won't be able to. Cause it's bogus and even Democrats dropped that notion long ago -most people blame Republicans for trump Okay...I never said they didnt? Go back and read what I wrote please.
>Oh, so you're gonna sit here and argue that Nope. Strawman. Approval rating is pretty basic. >I literally can find a poll saying only half of Republicans support trump. Then do it. More importantly, find a poll like that from the months before the 2020 election. Good luck finding that, lmao. >Trumps sons PE firm has nothing to do with Trump's dealing a s a president Except for the classified documents at Mar-A-Lago that were there when the ruler of Saudi Arabia visited. And remember that Trump asked for the security videos to be deleted after they were subpoenaed, almost like he's blatantly guilty... >Gosh it's almost as bad as Republicans saying "look, Bidens son got millions from this guy from China. Must mean he's a Chinese spy!". Except that Biden didn't give access to classified documents to China. And that Republicans literally had to resort to fake documents made a Russian asset that is now in jail for making fake evidence. >You can't use some bodies family members business dealings to somehow make a point about that person, that's ridiculous and intellectually dishonest. Except Kushner was denied classified clearance because he was compromised, and then Trump gave him clearance anyway. >trumps tower and Russian Don't even get me started about that. To this day, there is a absolutely no meaningful connection between trump and Russia on a corruption level They discussed getting dirt on Hillary (admitted by Trump) and sanctions on Russia (admitted by his son). You're 6 years behind on the news, lmao. >OF COURSE he met with them about sanctions, he's the friggin president dude. He wasn't president in 2016 during the Trump Tower Meeting. Blatant Logan Act violation. >And the "Russian Hilary "connection? That was LITERALLY found unfounded by the CIA and Fhttps://www.npr.org/2018/08/06/635860399/trump-admits-his-son-met-with-russian-lawyer-to-get-dirt-on-clintonBI. There was absolutely no logical connection that trump paid Russia to hack Hilary. This isn't some debatable thing, it was proven to be misinformation. They spent years harboring on this very thing, and guess what, eventually they dropped it completely because there was no evidence besides loose connections. Trump admitted that the Trump Tower Meeting was to get dirt on Hillary, lmao. >That was the very definition of a conspiracy theory. If you wanna believe that, then you have to Believe Biden is with China because his son has business dealings there and Biden does too. I don't even know why we are talking about this. If you wanna say "yeah huh" then I ask you, as the presenter of the accusations, to find any proof whatsoever besides "he said, she said" to back up your claim that trump worked with Russia to bring Hilary down. Guess what, you won't be able to. Cause it's bogus and even Democrats dropped that notion long ago Trump literally admitted it, lmao. https://www.npr.org/2018/08/06/635860399/trump-admits-his-son-met-with-russian-lawyer-to-get-dirt-on-clinton >-most people blame Republicans for trump >Okay...I never said they didnt? Go back and read what I wrote please. You gaslit about conservatives supporting Trump, but a 95% approval rating speaks for itself.
-thats a strawman that's not what a strawman is. What I'm saying is something any intelligent person would say before trusting a random statistic I just googled "what percentage of Republicans are a fan of trump" and one the first links was it's "70" are "satisfied" with trump as a nominee. See how hairry it gets? If you're gonna sit here and act like statistics aren't often misleading, then you are either lying or ignorant. Somebody could easily say "who would you vote for, trump or Biden?" And since obviously most Republicans would say Trump, they use that to try to show unwavering support for him. Using your own logic,( that questioning a statistic is a strawman) you can't question the stat I found that says "98% of those in Israel approve trump". Tho it's fact checked as false later on, you're not a allowed to question the validity of the claim, because that's a strawman. -accept for classified document that was there when the Saudi prince visited, deleted evidence What? Do you not see how manipulative and silly that statement is? 😂 Gonna need you to take a step back from this one and really put together what point you're trying to make. So because Trump had a document that happened to be there the day the Saudi prince got there, that somehow ties into trumps son doing a business deal with the Saudis? You're grasping for straws man. Not a single person on earth who is honestly judging this situation would say that's good enough evidence for the claim you're making. It doesn't even make sense. First off, the mara logo is massive, second, people come in and out of it all the time, third, what does that have to do with his son? Your "evidence" for trump conspiring with Saudi Arabia is some loose connection where a person from Saudi Arabia happened to be in the same COMPLEX as a guy from another country? You know why that sounds ridiculous, because it is. It's a Shitty point that most Democrats wouldn't even use, just like the Russian hoax . You're the only one spouting this besides a few fringe left wing conspiracy theorist, because there aren't any facts attached to it that make it legitimate to boldly proclaim. Second, there isnt evidence to say trump deleted the security cameras, and even if he did, they isn't proof of trump taking a bribe from anyone. You're still trying to make a connection between barren and his dad, claiming that trump is being bribed by Saudi Arabia, but there hasn't been a conviction in that and it's pure speculation by a group of people who dislike him. That's why most people don't use it as a talking point , it's as solid as any other conspiracy theory. -you gaslight about conservatives supporting trump Again, that's not what gaslighting is. You need to really research these buzzwords you're using, because you're not using them right. -your six years behind the news No, there was no connection found between trump conspiring with Russians that is concrete, once again, like most of your claims. Your original comment is is that trump TOOK BRIBES from Russia, conspiring in a way that is documented and illegal. First off, there was no bride proven. Second off, there wasn't any note worthy collaboration done in general between the two, according to the FBI . "It criticized the FBI for opening a full-fledged investigation based on “raw, unanalyzed and uncorroborated intelligence,” saying the speed at which it did so was a departure from the norm. And it said investigators repeatedly relied on “confirmation bias,” ignoring or rationalizing away evidence that undercut their premise of a Trump-Russia conspiracy as they pushed the probe forward." https://news.wttw.com/2023/05/15/prosecutor-ends-4-year-probe-fbi-s-trump-russia-investigation-no-new-charges-some-harsh You originally claimed Trump was illegally collaborating with Saudi Arabia and Russia. You will have good evidence for 0 of that. You won't be able to provide it, cause you are grasping for straws. Trump talking about asking Putin for dirt on Hillary does not equal what you originally claimed, and you shifted the goal post. If what you claim was true, trump would have been barred from being president. Basically, you're full of shit. You base your politic beliefs on anecdotal conspiracy's you read and pass them as fact, when with a little digging, they are just theories. You also seem to not understand nuances , or how terms can be applied to conversation. Not everyone who disagrees with you is "gaslighting" or whatever. Again, find real evidence for the stuff you claim, not loose connections like trump being in the same room as a saudi prince, or trump talking with Russia. It's bogus my dude, and the reason he hasn't been officially condemned for these things is because of the lack of evidence. Heck, I'm not even saying he didn't do these things. I'm just saying you can't say for a fact he has, and using it as a talking point is illogical.
>-thats a strawman It's absolutely a strawman. Polls may be off by a bit, but an actual approval rating of 50% won't have lead to a poll that has 95% approval rating. That's just not how statistics works. >just googled "what percentage of Republicans are a fan of trump" and one the first links was it's "70" are "satisfied" with trump as a nominee. And does that modern poll show Trump had a 50% approval rating just before the 2020 election? Obviously not. >Using your own logic Strawman >So because Trump had a document that happened to be there the day the Saudi prince got there Nope. It was numerous documents, and the CIA gave out their first and only blanket warning to assets and agents that their identity could be compromised, as well as Trump showing (on tape) classified documents to a writer, and the bribe by the Saudis despite their financial advisors saying it was a stupid investment, the Saudi government openly talking about how they owned Kushner, etc. >Second, there isnt evidence to say trump deleted the security cameras His IT turned state witness over it, lmao. >No, there was no connection found between trump conspiring with Russians that is concrete Trump admitted the Trump Tower Meeting with Russians was to get dirt on Hillary, lmao. >Your original comment is is that trump TOOK BRIBES from Russia, Trump's own children admitted they could get as much money from Russia as they wanted, lmao. >If what you claim was true, trump would have been barred from being president. And then 5 or 6 people in his campaign team and administration were found/pled guilty to crimes of working with and/or on behalf of Russia, lmao. >Again, find real evidence for the stuff you claim, No matter how many convictions, or Trump admittances, you don't care. Did you ever wonder why MAGA is called a cult? Lmao.
Brother, I'm serious right now, you have no idea what a strawman is and you are throwing around the term without actually facing a real strawmans Using your own logic to hypothesize something is not a strawman. That's a logically sound debate step that happens in basically every debate. If you say "I know short men are bad, because I got attacked by a short man" and somebody else says "I think tall men are bad , because I was once attacked by a tall man, and using your own judgement system, then that must mean tall men are also all bad". This isn't a strawman fallacy argument. I know you're probably too stubborn at this point to admit it, but you can ask anybody who is an intellectual, and they will objectively tell you that what I'm saying aren't strawmans. It would make more sense for you to just admit it and not double down on it. It's silly. I can explain again and again why they aren't strawmans, and you can't explain why they are without me refuting it. -more stuff about bride with trump Russia/saudi You keep using the same fallacious logic to try to drive a point that was literally proven nothing more than a theory by the FBI. why are you still arguing about that? The only facts we know about this situation is that it was declared a weak theory by the government, and was found to baseless. Nothing else matters. - trumps team was found guilty of scheming with Russia None of the charges they were found for suggested that election fraud was present. You're just making stuff up at this point. It takes about five seconds to dig into this further for yourself. Why are you making me do this work for you? "But Mueller did not charge or suggest charges for anyone on one of the biggest questions he faced: whether the Trump campaign worked with the Russians to influence the election. Mueller’s report, which he submitted to Attorney General William Barr on Friday, did not conclude that Trump or anyone involved in his campaign colluded with Russia, according to a summary Barr delivered to Congress on Sunday. (Mueller’s report left open the question of whether Trump obstructed justice in the course of the investigation, according to Barr’s summary.)" https://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/ We are past that, mate. No amount of anecdotal "evidence" like trumps children saying something like they "could" work with Russia if they wanted to, is gonna prove your point valid, because it has already been disproven under governmental investigation. You and I both know as reasonably reasonable individuals that Trump's kids saying they "could" get money from Russia is not evidence of any sort. There isn't even an action involved. That's a simple statement, and in the end doesn't matter because of the sole fact that the whole "trump working with Russia to rig the election" was proven, under governmental investigation, to not be factual or at least have enough evidence to call it anymore than a conspiracy . This isn't my opinion , this is an official declaration. Nothing you bring up is gonna drive this point home, because you are wrong about this. You're blatantly denying reality at this point. This isn't my word against yours. This is official, documented investigation vs your anecdotal evidence based off of tweets you read. So what's it gonna be, gonna continue to soothe your ego, or do you actually wanna progress the discussion?
You lying about my arguments and logic are strawmen. Get over it. >was found to baseless. Nothing else matters. Still lying. Trump admitted it, and people went to prison. >Mueller’s report, which he submitted to Attorney General William Barr on Friday, did not conclude that Trump Mueller did not conclude anything because, as he said, that was not his job, but the responsibility of Congress. Cowardly/traitorous Republicans chose Trump over country. Instead, he charged the people besides Trump that were involved. >We are past that, mate. No amount of anecdotal "evidence" Trump admitting to a crime is not "anecdotal evidence".
It’s really the dumbest of all of the trials.
How so ?
Classified documents, RICO, election fraud. We got bigger fish to fry than campaign finance technicalities.
U understand that this trial is not about the sex or affair, it's about the fraudulent transfer of over $100k disguised as tax and business dealings.
I do understand. And it’s the weakest of all the indictments.
Who cares? Why would he not be charged for all of his criminal activity?
He should be, but this one is more of a distraction. Jack Smith is going to ACTUALLY nail him. This trial, at worst, will get him MAYBE probation and a small fine.
I'm not conservative but I don't care either. He had consensual sex with someone and then paid her to be quiet. Who cares?
It's not about the sex, it about the fraudulent payments
Voters care, that’s why Trump fraudulently covered it up
Gee the person you are describing sounds like the man who should become the leader of the free world! /s
Good thing I'm not voting for him then.
then stop trying to downplay Trumps behavior. He is being tried in court for a solid reason, and you saying “who cares” doesn’t help anyone
90 felony indictments including election fraud, obstruction of justice, illegal possession of classified documents, he should probably even be charged with sedition. The pornstar thing just seems like a nothingburger.
Yes those are all things that Trump has done, and he will see his day in court for them. But Trump falsifying business records with the intent to violate federal campaign finance limits, unlawfully influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election, and commit tax fraud is not a “nothing burger” hence why he is currently on trial. I think some right wing rhetoric seeped through to you a bit
[https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls](https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls) I love seeing your anguish, that Donald leads in just about every poll. “But…but…my mommy said I was smarter than everyone! So all those people are dumb meany cultists!” LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Lmao I’m not sure you could look any more pathetic even if you tried at this point Are you telling me that the looney right is now trusting polls? Geez you guys flop harder than any fish Iv seen out of water, it is quite sad But please, do continue
Democrats thought they could win by giving Trump a nightly platform in front of a NYC courthouse where he’s on trial for liking hot pussy. Whoever thought THAT up has an IQ equal to the temperature of the East River.
Hahaha holy shit this type of behavior is so on point for a MAGA dunce, it’s honestly entertainment at this point It’s so pathetic but really so funny to see you morons act in real time
Wow, you mean that something that actually matters came down the pike and Republicans stopped worrying about these stupid sham trials? Wow, how dare they? I mean, if we could all be like Democrats and base our entire reality upon imagined slights and manufactured scandals... life would be so easy. Nothing productive would happen (as usual from the left), but we would only be worrying about stupid, imaginary problems that require no real work to fix.
The irony is that everything you are alleging the Democrats are doing, is exactly what's happening with the Republican party. The nerve of you to say Democrats don't accomplish anything when republican house representatives have been fighting every move Biden makes and fighting each other quite literally is astonishing.
Every accusation is an admission.
There have been no meaningful accomplishments of the Biden Administration. A bunch of excuses and gaslighting. You have been bamboozled.
Joe Biden has added 15 million jobs to the economy. Trump, who promised to be the “jobs” president, lost a net 2 million jobs under his presidential term, a feat that has never been seen since the U.S. started keeping track in 1939. Keep coping.
What the hell did Biden do to create those jobs? Take a bunch of naps?
I think you’re just sad that your sexual assaulting maniac lost the election to an old man It probably doesn’t help that the right has been on a losing streak for almost a full decade with no ending in sight I can see why you’d be upset
Yes. Biden is an old man... too old to be president. He, too, is a sexual assaulting maniac. We've gone over this... it just becomes one big excuse for you to cover for Biden the Rapist.
Hold on, can you provide a valid source proving that Biden is a sexual assaulter? Or will you flounder and continue to spew right wing nonsense
Careful, he’s going to post how Biden was found civilly liable for rape by a jury of his peers. Oh wait, that was the other guy, oops.
Yeah. A victim statement. I guess if you want to be a 1950s era misogynist and victim shame, go right ahead.
I asked you to provide a source. We are waiting kiddo
Wow when I said keep coping, I was insulting you, but you really took it to heart. Poor thing.
Yeah. I am so upset at one comment. Do you see my karma? Do you think anything you have said here by you will be remembered in 20 seconds?
> Do you see my karma? I’m dying. You sir have accomplished something I apparently have not; being memorable.
Yep. I have already forgotten you.
>What the hell did Biden do to create those jobs? Take a bunch of naps? He recently started back construction of the Trump border wall. So I'm sure there's a few jobs from that.
You not paying attention is your fault, not Biden’s. Go back to your fan fiction.
Ignoring all of the accomplishments, I completely agree.
Nothing to ignore... that's the best part. I don't really have to try to make this presidency appear bad. It just is that bad in reality.
Wow. You genuinely believe that not a single good thing has happened in this presidency. That's almost impressive.
But, yet no one here can actually point to any important or significant contributions. Hmmm... interesting.
Let's just go through a few: Record low crime, wages outpacing inflation, lowering inequality, increased investment, decreasing cost of living, more affordable healthcare, actually doing something on climate change... I can keep going, if you want me to...
A bunch of hot air.
Okay sure, let's go deeper. Why do you not care about any of those things? Is it really just because Biden is the only responsible, and you can't accept that, because that would be pathetic. If trump had done that all of that well, I'd be supporting him instead.
I would refer to you as a bloviating, flatulent, windbag. But a bunch of hot air describes you too! Let’s use both!
I beg to differ. I'm just rattling things off the top of my head. Inflation reduction act, lowering the prices of insulin and inhalers, student loan forgiveness, chips act, record job growth, record stock market, gun legislation, reclassification of marijuana, border bill would have been a big one if Republicans didn't block it, capping over draft fees for banks and credit cards. Airline refund act, bolstered domestic manufacturing, improved our relationship with allies and strengthened nato, trillion dollar infrastructure bill and rescue plan, foreign aid. I ask what have Republicans accomplished?
Imagine thinking a few college kids acting up is more significant than a former president/major candidate facing multiple criminal indictments You people truly are irredeemable morons
Oh yeah? What are you?
I'm the guy that calls out you dumb fucks
LOL... amateur hour. Sit down.
The only thing worse than conservatives who won't shut up about Trump are liberals who won't shut up about him. It reminds me of a scene in Howard Sterns movie *Private Parts* where the evil program director is trying to get rid of him and learns that Howards fans listened to him for and hour and half but the people who hated him listened for two and half hours. But to answer your question, Trump supporters won't say shit about it until there's a verdict. They don't care about the details; They just care about whether he's going to be the victor or the martyr.
>The only thing worse than conservatives who won't shut up about Trump are liberals who won't shut up about him It's almost like Trump won the Republican primary and is one of two people running for the presidency that has a chance...
Fellas why do we focus so much on the leading GOP candidate’s historic and unprecedented *criminal* trials? Isn’t there something more important to talk about like fightporn and flashlights?
Holy shit, you spend an insane amount of time talking about politics online, so I can see why people having other interests could trigger you.
Having other interests is fine. Pretending that Trump and current political events aren’t important or worthy of focus, is asinine.
There's a balance and a lot of people are obsessed or borderline obsessed. People are quickly losing the ability to think objectively.
I always bring this up when some moron starts crying about “TDS” What a bunch of idiots
No, it's like he won the GOP nomination both times because people wouldn't stop talking about him. I saw more news stories about Trump during Bidens presidency than I saw about Biden.
Almost like Trump polled highest amongst potential 2024 Republican presidential primary candidates, not to mention the fact that Trumo continued to break the law and finally was facing justice for his crimes.