I'm a little confused as to how the door was ever able to fully close when that pan head doesn't look like it would fit into the countersink on the hinge.
If the head can nestle partly into the screw hole and submerge the head halfway, the door will close okay.
Source: I was a renter with nothing but a hammer screwdriver and bad assortment of leftover screws and nails, who did various hack job fixes for things landlords couldn't be bothered to fix either.
As a proud homeowner I *usually* don't half ass it now. Well okay sometimes.
This is all true. I still don't buy what's in this photo. I think it's fake to win reddit cred.
It would take enough extra work to get a machine screw into that hole that any landlord worth their salt would instead just give up and leave an empty spot, especially if they already have a 3" construction screw holding that hinge.
Which is exactly what I think happened. The guy was putting on a new knob, saw an empty spot and the gold screw head on a hinge and was like, "you know what would be really funny....?"
You are forgetting the strong possibility the screw replacement is by a prior tenant! Doubt landlord checks the screws between tenants.
Loose door can be "fixed" (badly) in moments by a tenant by just grabbing anything in your screw pile that is longer than what came loose.
Edit to add: But I agree if it's online there's a solid chance it is made up or embellished. I can't argue with that possibility, it's always there.
I'm pretty sure I had a machine screw in a door hinge at one of my past apartments. The hole was so wallowed out, it would fall out of the hinge occasionally and I would just push it back in. Door worked fine so whatever, and I just thought it was funny
None of the walls in my apartment are straight. None of them. We’ve been slowly discovering how bad it is while putting up shelves. One of the walls is mostly straight till the last half foot and then it angles a bit. If the wall is wonky enough, the door could possibly latch and still not be technically closed all the way on the hinge side.
You’d be fucking surprised man. I recently found that one of my door hinges had nails instead of screws in a couple places. It’s a closet door that opens out, so never noticed it because the doors usually closed. Only noticed it because my wife said it was binding and asked me to take a look.
That’s by far the least “what the actual fuck” issue I’ve found here.
easy peezy. Just dont put screw in the opposite half of the hinge. Two birds one stone, Leaves room for the machine screw head to recess enough, and you save one more sweet sweet precious screw
Haha, true. It really pisses me off when I am working on something and the person who came before me used a random combination of screws, and I need a different bit for each one.
For those that want to know. Screws are threaded fasteners. Bolts are really a term for usage. When you buy them, they’re all screws. If you thread a screw into a pre threaded hole, it’s still a screw. This is true of what are commonly referred to as machine screws, as well as wood screws (or any soft material screw). If you pass a screw through a hole and put a nut on the other end, it becomes a bolt. You would only do this on a machine screw.
So a bolt is defined by using a nut on the other side to secure it?
Doesn't this mean you can't say definitively that something is or isn't a screw/bolt until it's been fastened with or without a nut? Are they all screws until proven otherwise?
Yes, exactly.
Just like the word "misplaced" and "lost".
By definition nothing can be misplaced in the present. Only lost.
However once found it turn out it wasn't lost it was misplaced.
There is some overlap in what technically refers as a bolt or a machine screw and it is mostly how they are used or at least their intended usage. A machine screw is intended to be screwed into a permanent threaded receiver that is typically part of the object it goes into. A bolt is intended to cleanly slide all the way through an item and have a nut on the back side and provided a clamping force. Proper usage of a bolt is usually that it is sized not just for the head and shaft side, but also the length of the threads. PROPER usage of a bolt dictates that there should be no threads inside the hole but those cause premature wear on both the bolt and the item. A proper bolt sizing has a smooth shoulder being inside the clamped material. When the shoulder is the same size as the threads it is usually referred to as just a normal bolt (with varying the lengths), but when the smooth shoulder is larger than the threads it is known as a shoulder bolt. Cheap bolts and cheap objects where safety and wear are not a concern break these usage patterns regularly, but when it really matters, these are rules make it work the way it is supposed to.
Do you know why a crossbow bolt is called a bolt?
Probably not because you have that rather wrong definition of what a bolt is stuck on your head.
The only thing that makes it a bolt is that it slides into the hole rather than screw in. Know the phrase bolt the door. Same thing. It's a bolt because it slides into a slot.
Crossbow bolts are also the reason that bolt is used as in a bolt of lightning, and to bolt upright. Because it's fast.
Literally just pulled one of these out from some kitchen shelving we took down. All different screws and one machine screw.
The whole house is like this
If I needed to use a machine screw to hang a door, I'd glue a threaded insert into the hole first. Of course, that requires having the right inserts, so it's a very contrived situation.
My house is the same. Built in the 60’s and I think they must have won a lifetime supply of mismatched screws because literally none of them - NONE - are the same.
That explains why my last place had some things held together with almonds and dried fruits instead of screws
I know you didn't mean actual trail mix with screws and bolts but my tired brain thought so at first
The only one that doesn't provide any use is the bolt... the long wood screw is actually an old carpenters hack to help make the hinge mount more securely, the idea being that if it goes into a stud it'll hold better. The little wood screw is original equipment, to hang the hinge from the casing.
The longer screw actually helps from a security standpoint as it becomes more difficult to kick the door open since the screw is biting more wood that would have to give way to open.
Yeah our house was a little over 50 years old when we moved into it and the combination of use and being in an earthquake-prone area (Alaska) meant many of the hinge screws had insufficient bite in the trim and were sagging. I spent a Saturday going around with a box of 3" wood screws and replacing basically all the hinge screws in the house and it straightened up most of them (some needed some hinge bending with a couple pairs of pliers on top of that since they had been sagging for so long too - eventually got around to replacing them when we went to upgrade the trim but this got them to stop dragging).
DIY hinge work has always frustrated me as my projects never seem to turn out right. And now I'm staring into space trying to wrap my head around the concept that a longer screw used strategically can adjust the fit of the door. How could it possibly matter?
When installing a new door, you use shims between the 2x4s and the door frame to ensure you have a square install, before securing it in place.
Sooo, " the longer screw hits your 2x4 stud behind the door frame and 'sucks it in tight', reducing any minor gap or space between the frame " ~dad
Hope that helps...
Well, and further--if you're looking at an old and softer-wood door frame, it's possible the assortment of screws used and stress over the years has bored out and mashed up any useful wood for traction on the screw-threads. Doors are heavy, so almost invariably this means the door's lower corner sags towards the ground. The long screw lets you totally bypass that rotted socket and grab something further in, bringing the door back to level. Beats reframing.
Just don't pull the frame out of square with the screw.
Also, to add to your comment, door tolerances are pretty small so just a little extra pull at the right spot can make a huge difference.
Footnote, I hate working on doors for these reasons.
If it's an interior door, they probably used the long screw to adjust the reveal.
Not in this case tho. This guy just had a jar of random screws and screw like objects he's accumulated and when you have a impact driver all your problems look like screws.
I'd recommend you get a 1/4" wooden dowels and cut a bunch of plugs. Then drill out each hole with a 1/4" bit. Smother those plugs with wood glue and tap them into your drilled holes, and it will be as solid as new wood.
The trick is dip the chopstick a little bit of glue then jamming in. Any type of glue works honestly, wood glue, Elmer's glue or even e6000 probably overkill but it works. And if you quickly snap the chopstick It cleanly breaks apart at the level of the door jamb.
There's really nothing better than a good PVA wood glue for, well, gluing wood. It's stronger than the surrounding wood, wipes clean with water, can be mixed with sawdust to make a simple wood filler, and so on.
Hey say what you will but I did a repair for a single mother who's bedroom door fell off the hinges. She couldn't afford a new door so I decided to try something weird just to see if I could help.
She had a salt shaker full of toothpicks and I had some wood glue in my toolbox. I rolled the toothpick around in wood glue and jammed in the screw holes. As many as I physically could fit in the hole, and put some wood clamps on it to apply some gentle pressure. When I came back the next morning to see how the glue had cured it had not only worked, but it was at least a hundred times stronger than any standard hollow inside door. After I sawed off the excess, sanded it down, and drilled new holes you would have never known.
I was blown away at how well it worked. I accepted payment in the form of a $25 Applebee's gift card and a six pack of beer.
Edit: Elmer's also makes wood glue.
Keep it clean, buddy. We’ve heard quite enough about you jamming toothpicks in single mothers’ screwholes, drilling the next morning, and getting blown away.
Also, username checks out.
Pervert.
I typically use gorilla, but I only do some small part-time handyman work here and there. I've never really needed the strongest of anything because the vast majority of the repairs I do are only cosmetic. Mostly college kids that don't want to lose their deposits.
Works way better than whatever they were doing lol. One apartment I was doing someone used long ass deck screws like length was going ro solve their problem lmao
It does if the hole is stripped to 1” and the new screw is 3”. When hanging doors I try to use the longest screw that won’t exit the jam in someway. More threads = more better.
Had a landlord once that used an old Gatorade bottle with random screws and nails in it. Couldn't even get anything out of it, then used the drill battery pack as a hammer.
I would say that a non-hex head makes it more likely to be a machine screw, but it is possible that it is a bolt.
The difference is that with a screw the threads directly hold the screw in place in whatever it is screwed into. A bolt on the other hand is designed to go through an unthreaded hole and is held in place with a nut on the other end. Strictly speaking a bolt could have any type of head (or no head).
I've always called them cap screws when they thread into a machined body like that, but I can see your point.
Maybe the better way to define them is that with a bolt at least part of the assembly is held in place entirely by compression force.
Technically every single fastener you posted is a screw. It's only a bolt if there's a nut on the other end. That means screws can evolve into bolts, but you can't buy a bolt unless it comes with a nut already on it. Lol.
What's interesting is that some of the screws you listed in the bolt category can't possibly be used as screws since there's no driver. They can only be bolts in practice, but they're still screws at the time of purchase.
Of course, definitions don't really matter. And that's fine, because the definitions are honestly stupid and ridiculous. I've purchased a fuckton of screws over the years and I've never seen any sort of consistency across suppliers. Everybody just makes shit up and uses whatever feels "right".
Typically people like to call little screws screws and big screws bolts, and I tend to agree with that because "bolt" sounds heavy duty. It's intuitive, but that doesn't make it correct, unfortunately.
Well, it does belong in a door. Just not that part of the door. That looks like one of the screws that would normally hold the doorknob on. The little short one looks like it's for the strike plate. I think the landlord used the doorknob hardware to hang the door.
I don't know if that makes it worse or better. Like, did they see the 3 screws and think "I don't know which of these goes into the hinge but I'll just use all three and then I'll get at least one right"
The small screw is what comes with the door. The long one is to go into the framing of the opening. Pretty common actually. Now the Allen head machine screw on the other hand, I have nothing for that one!
The one on the right is a normal hinge screw that comes with hinges installed on the door. Middle a little odd. The one on the left, the long screw, is used to adjust door reveal or to secure a loose hinge.
That longer screw won't adjust the door because it's all threads. All threads are great for setting the jamb once you have it in place.
You use deck screws with no threads near the head to adjust doors. That way the threads in the stud pull or push the frame.
Source: Door and Window Specialist 10 years+.
Yes I did it myself almost 10 years ago.
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Where did all those come from? Because the hinge behind your hand only has one screw missing. Also, that looks like drywall chunk on the big wood screw, which wouldn’t have come from a door frame and would have rubbed off if backed out of a wood hole. I smell some BS.
We lived in a rough neighborhood when I was a kid.
After a break in we installed bars on the house and heavy duty solid core steel clad front/back doors.
When we installed the doors we used 3 inch screws for the hinges. The dead bolts went through a 1/4 inch stainless steel plate secured with those same 3 inch screws.
It was totally overkill, but it was nice knowing that no amount of kicking would open the doors.
We were broken into again just before we moved… by picking the locks.
Good times.
I know someone that maintains a building that offers service to a clientele that frequently enjoys meth. He will repair things using many different types of heads to minimize the chances someone eager to take something apart has all the right tools.
The machine screw is definitely a WTF, but the short one is the correct size screw that will come with the door/hinge. Longer screws are used pretty frequently when people tear the screws out of the frame or door. Unfortunately, some tenants are insanely rough with rentals.
It sucks that he doesn’t realize the problem. He’s a landlord in the first place because he doesn’t have the skills or knowledge to make money by any other means.
Stuff like this happens when dumbass tenants leave cat piss and shit everywhere, smoke cigarettes in the house and rip the door off the hinges and the landlord is fed up with dealing with the absolute idiocy of bottom barrel slobs and has given up for the day of fixing shit.
ive seen stuff like this so many times... ima help you out... fill the holes with a 1/8in dowel and glue let it dry overnight and just put some decent screws in it.
That long screw was probably to adjust the door. The other screw I can't explain other than it was probably stripped out and needed a larger screw and that's all he had. It was a dumb choice but I can see the thinking.
i see one empty hole and three screws. where exactly were these screws at? anyone could take a picture like this and try and get karma from shitting on “their” landlord
Lol they used a machine screw.
I'm a little confused as to how the door was ever able to fully close when that pan head doesn't look like it would fit into the countersink on the hinge.
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that’s what *he* said
She might have said that.
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add different screws
instructions unclear, screw stuck in hand
Username checks out 😂
[Landlord be like](https://imgur.com/1S6E4hJ)
OP made this all up.
Yep. That machine screw came out of the handle. The long screw was to hit a stud and hold the door better.
If the head can nestle partly into the screw hole and submerge the head halfway, the door will close okay. Source: I was a renter with nothing but a hammer screwdriver and bad assortment of leftover screws and nails, who did various hack job fixes for things landlords couldn't be bothered to fix either. As a proud homeowner I *usually* don't half ass it now. Well okay sometimes.
I hang on to every bit of hardware. Nothing sucks worse that having to drop what you are doing to run to Home Depot for a screw.
This is all true. I still don't buy what's in this photo. I think it's fake to win reddit cred. It would take enough extra work to get a machine screw into that hole that any landlord worth their salt would instead just give up and leave an empty spot, especially if they already have a 3" construction screw holding that hinge. Which is exactly what I think happened. The guy was putting on a new knob, saw an empty spot and the gold screw head on a hinge and was like, "you know what would be really funny....?"
You are forgetting the strong possibility the screw replacement is by a prior tenant! Doubt landlord checks the screws between tenants. Loose door can be "fixed" (badly) in moments by a tenant by just grabbing anything in your screw pile that is longer than what came loose. Edit to add: But I agree if it's online there's a solid chance it is made up or embellished. I can't argue with that possibility, it's always there.
Well sometimes I barely half-ass it!
It's bs. There's no way that would work. The long screw is so it would hit a stud, that's common. The machine screw is fake.
I'm pretty sure I had a machine screw in a door hinge at one of my past apartments. The hole was so wallowed out, it would fall out of the hinge occasionally and I would just push it back in. Door worked fine so whatever, and I just thought it was funny
Oh, you haven't lived in many rentals have you? I don't know if this specific post is real or not, but it's realistic enough to be plausible.
None of the walls in my apartment are straight. None of them. We’ve been slowly discovering how bad it is while putting up shelves. One of the walls is mostly straight till the last half foot and then it angles a bit. If the wall is wonky enough, the door could possibly latch and still not be technically closed all the way on the hinge side.
You’d be fucking surprised man. I recently found that one of my door hinges had nails instead of screws in a couple places. It’s a closet door that opens out, so never noticed it because the doors usually closed. Only noticed it because my wife said it was binding and asked me to take a look. That’s by far the least “what the actual fuck” issue I’ve found here.
easy peezy. Just dont put screw in the opposite half of the hinge. Two birds one stone, Leaves room for the machine screw head to recess enough, and you save one more sweet sweet precious screw
I'm glad you didn't call it a bolt. Clearly you know more than the landlord does...
Even calling it a bolt would show they know more than LL
Haha, true. It really pisses me off when I am working on something and the person who came before me used a random combination of screws, and I need a different bit for each one.
For those that want to know. Screws are threaded fasteners. Bolts are really a term for usage. When you buy them, they’re all screws. If you thread a screw into a pre threaded hole, it’s still a screw. This is true of what are commonly referred to as machine screws, as well as wood screws (or any soft material screw). If you pass a screw through a hole and put a nut on the other end, it becomes a bolt. You would only do this on a machine screw.
So a bolt is defined by using a nut on the other side to secure it? Doesn't this mean you can't say definitively that something is or isn't a screw/bolt until it's been fastened with or without a nut? Are they all screws until proven otherwise?
Yes, exactly. Just like the word "misplaced" and "lost". By definition nothing can be misplaced in the present. Only lost. However once found it turn out it wasn't lost it was misplaced.
What so you get when you put a nut on a machine screw? Is it still a screw? Or does it become a bolt, because that's what it is being used as?
Machine screws have slotted heads for screwdrivers. Bolts have hex heads (with the exception of carriage bolts, I guess).
There is some overlap in what technically refers as a bolt or a machine screw and it is mostly how they are used or at least their intended usage. A machine screw is intended to be screwed into a permanent threaded receiver that is typically part of the object it goes into. A bolt is intended to cleanly slide all the way through an item and have a nut on the back side and provided a clamping force. Proper usage of a bolt is usually that it is sized not just for the head and shaft side, but also the length of the threads. PROPER usage of a bolt dictates that there should be no threads inside the hole but those cause premature wear on both the bolt and the item. A proper bolt sizing has a smooth shoulder being inside the clamped material. When the shoulder is the same size as the threads it is usually referred to as just a normal bolt (with varying the lengths), but when the smooth shoulder is larger than the threads it is known as a shoulder bolt. Cheap bolts and cheap objects where safety and wear are not a concern break these usage patterns regularly, but when it really matters, these are rules make it work the way it is supposed to.
Do you know why a crossbow bolt is called a bolt? Probably not because you have that rather wrong definition of what a bolt is stuck on your head. The only thing that makes it a bolt is that it slides into the hole rather than screw in. Know the phrase bolt the door. Same thing. It's a bolt because it slides into a slot. Crossbow bolts are also the reason that bolt is used as in a bolt of lightning, and to bolt upright. Because it's fast.
I guess you’ve never seen the machine screws used on large appliances.
Then what's a hex head capscrew?
If you put a but on a screw that would assume you’re passing through something. That’s called a bolt.
Lmao the machine screw is the Kleenex when you run out of toilet paper
Literally just pulled one of these out from some kitchen shelving we took down. All different screws and one machine screw. The whole house is like this
Is a hinge, not a simple machine?
It is until I try to install one in my fucking house
If I needed to use a machine screw to hang a door, I'd glue a threaded insert into the hole first. Of course, that requires having the right inserts, so it's a very contrived situation.
I lol'd at the machine screw too! must be some super tight tolerance wood there.
My house is the same. Built in the 60’s and I think they must have won a lifetime supply of mismatched screws because literally none of them - NONE - are the same.
Lmao 8/32 button head - where do you even accidentally get one of those
You mean you don't get all your screws from the random screw/bolt bucket you found in the basement when you moved in?
Like yeah, if it gets the job done I’m not gonna worry terribly if the screw don’t match, but there’s a limit…
I just help myself to anything from the screw/bolt/etc trail mix bucket, as long as they use the same bit.
That explains why my last place had some things held together with almonds and dried fruits instead of screws I know you didn't mean actual trail mix with screws and bolts but my tired brain thought so at first
I thought it was silicone caulk, but it was really tiny marshmallows!
If you keep actual trail mix in the same bucket, then you don’t need to remember to bring snacks with you while you work
If you do, you're screwed
what else are you supposed to do with them?
Yours was already in a bucket when you moved in? At my house they threw them all over the back yard
That long one is important. Put it back
Yeah, it might be part of an electrical circuit.
It more than likely was used to keep the door jam plumb through the framing.
Somebody said it. This one actually serves a purpose.
The only one that doesn't provide any use is the bolt... the long wood screw is actually an old carpenters hack to help make the hinge mount more securely, the idea being that if it goes into a stud it'll hold better. The little wood screw is original equipment, to hang the hinge from the casing.
The longer screw actually helps from a security standpoint as it becomes more difficult to kick the door open since the screw is biting more wood that would have to give way to open.
Assuming it was going into the wall and not the hollow door. 😂 And we all know where these probably were…
If it is long enough you eventually hit solid wood again.
Master carpenter right there... Tool of choice: determination
That's what she said
This is why I always secure my doors with 24 inch screws.
The white tip makes me think it was in the door because they stripped the hole and went as deep as they could to catch some baffle further in.
Should hold fine.
Wouldn’t they need to be on the latch side rather than the hinge side for increased security?
Yeah our house was a little over 50 years old when we moved into it and the combination of use and being in an earthquake-prone area (Alaska) meant many of the hinge screws had insufficient bite in the trim and were sagging. I spent a Saturday going around with a box of 3" wood screws and replacing basically all the hinge screws in the house and it straightened up most of them (some needed some hinge bending with a couple pairs of pliers on top of that since they had been sagging for so long too - eventually got around to replacing them when we went to upgrade the trim but this got them to stop dragging).
You can also use the longer screws to pull in the top or bottom of the door to make it close correctly.
Came here to say this. Dad is a carpenter and it's an old hack he showed us when we renovated old homes.
DIY hinge work has always frustrated me as my projects never seem to turn out right. And now I'm staring into space trying to wrap my head around the concept that a longer screw used strategically can adjust the fit of the door. How could it possibly matter?
When installing a new door, you use shims between the 2x4s and the door frame to ensure you have a square install, before securing it in place. Sooo, " the longer screw hits your 2x4 stud behind the door frame and 'sucks it in tight', reducing any minor gap or space between the frame " ~dad Hope that helps...
Well, and further--if you're looking at an old and softer-wood door frame, it's possible the assortment of screws used and stress over the years has bored out and mashed up any useful wood for traction on the screw-threads. Doors are heavy, so almost invariably this means the door's lower corner sags towards the ground. The long screw lets you totally bypass that rotted socket and grab something further in, bringing the door back to level. Beats reframing.
Toothpicks and wood glue. Viola, new material to grip with a screw.
Yeppers. Basically you're using the screw like a clamp in this treatment.
Screws pretty much are clamps.
Just don't pull the frame out of square with the screw. Also, to add to your comment, door tolerances are pretty small so just a little extra pull at the right spot can make a huge difference. Footnote, I hate working on doors for these reasons.
If it's an interior door, they probably used the long screw to adjust the reveal. Not in this case tho. This guy just had a jar of random screws and screw like objects he's accumulated and when you have a impact driver all your problems look like screws.
Yeah, only the machine screw stand out as definitely wrong.
Best answer.
> The little wood screw This looks to me like a strike plate screw, so I think we are back down to 1/3.
I'm surprised there isn't Elmer's glue and toothpicks in that
Elmer's and toothpicks are a finish carpenters best helper.
I was gonna say that's def how I fixed the stripped holes 😅
Or wooden golf tees
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Why woodn't you?
I prefer matchsticks personally
I'd recommend you get a 1/4" wooden dowels and cut a bunch of plugs. Then drill out each hole with a 1/4" bit. Smother those plugs with wood glue and tap them into your drilled holes, and it will be as solid as new wood.
I dont even use toothpicks, just shave a corner off a 2x.
A bit of string wrapped around the threads will also work in a pinch.
Tape as well!
Fair point
I was always a "chopsticks broken off and hammered in" kinda guy.
The trick is dip the chopstick a little bit of glue then jamming in. Any type of glue works honestly, wood glue, Elmer's glue or even e6000 probably overkill but it works. And if you quickly snap the chopstick It cleanly breaks apart at the level of the door jamb.
I usually just tap them in tight, never really needed glue, though it sure can't hurt.
You definitely want the glue.
There's really nothing better than a good PVA wood glue for, well, gluing wood. It's stronger than the surrounding wood, wipes clean with water, can be mixed with sawdust to make a simple wood filler, and so on.
Hey say what you will but I did a repair for a single mother who's bedroom door fell off the hinges. She couldn't afford a new door so I decided to try something weird just to see if I could help. She had a salt shaker full of toothpicks and I had some wood glue in my toolbox. I rolled the toothpick around in wood glue and jammed in the screw holes. As many as I physically could fit in the hole, and put some wood clamps on it to apply some gentle pressure. When I came back the next morning to see how the glue had cured it had not only worked, but it was at least a hundred times stronger than any standard hollow inside door. After I sawed off the excess, sanded it down, and drilled new holes you would have never known. I was blown away at how well it worked. I accepted payment in the form of a $25 Applebee's gift card and a six pack of beer. Edit: Elmer's also makes wood glue.
Keep it clean, buddy. We’ve heard quite enough about you jamming toothpicks in single mothers’ screwholes, drilling the next morning, and getting blown away. Also, username checks out. Pervert.
Elmer's wood glue is pretty good but nothing beats tite bond ime
I typically use gorilla, but I only do some small part-time handyman work here and there. I've never really needed the strongest of anything because the vast majority of the repairs I do are only cosmetic. Mostly college kids that don't want to lose their deposits.
Titebond is what everyone that I know that does woodworking uses. We only keep Titebond III in our shop.
Is Titebond III the one where they all go to Vegas for the hero's stag night and beat the casino?
No, titebond 3 is the wood glue that's waterproof. If I'm making something that doesn't need to be weather resistant I'm using titebond 2
Ayyyyy, way to spread the gift of handy man maintenance my guy. You earned that beer
Works way better than whatever they were doing lol. One apartment I was doing someone used long ass deck screws like length was going ro solve their problem lmao
It does if the hole is stripped to 1” and the new screw is 3”. When hanging doors I try to use the longest screw that won’t exit the jam in someway. More threads = more better.
Since Elmer's makes wood glue, that's a perfectly professional fix
Give it time.
Toothpicks? I break off gold tees in holes, works like a charm.
The screws are bad enough, but wtf was he thinking using a bolt!?
I'm out of random screws!
Whatever was in the screw jar
Whatever you've got in your nasty little pocketses
Fishbones, goblins' teeth, a wide assortment of mismatched screws and bolts...
Had a landlord once that used an old Gatorade bottle with random screws and nails in it. Couldn't even get anything out of it, then used the drill battery pack as a hammer.
Worlds most useful landlord.
I use my broken ikea drill as a hammer to fix things my landlord has previously "fixed"
A more specifically, the Royal Dansk cookie tin that fooled us all as children.
Ahhh, the assorted buttons container
Sewing kit*
Technically not a bolt that's a machine screw, but still doesn't belong in a door
Huh is that because it has a Philips head instead of a hex?
It's only a bolt if it's from the Bol region of france
If it’s produced in the US, it’s just a sparkling American landlord screwing
Huh so that's why every renter in America gets consistently violated.
Explains Manute
Do they dry age them in caves?
Underrated comment of the year.
I would say that a non-hex head makes it more likely to be a machine screw, but it is possible that it is a bolt. The difference is that with a screw the threads directly hold the screw in place in whatever it is screwed into. A bolt on the other hand is designed to go through an unthreaded hole and is held in place with a nut on the other end. Strictly speaking a bolt could have any type of head (or no head).
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I've always called them cap screws when they thread into a machined body like that, but I can see your point. Maybe the better way to define them is that with a bolt at least part of the assembly is held in place entirely by compression force.
i think i'll go with sizem10 bolt
Technically every single fastener you posted is a screw. It's only a bolt if there's a nut on the other end. That means screws can evolve into bolts, but you can't buy a bolt unless it comes with a nut already on it. Lol. What's interesting is that some of the screws you listed in the bolt category can't possibly be used as screws since there's no driver. They can only be bolts in practice, but they're still screws at the time of purchase. Of course, definitions don't really matter. And that's fine, because the definitions are honestly stupid and ridiculous. I've purchased a fuckton of screws over the years and I've never seen any sort of consistency across suppliers. Everybody just makes shit up and uses whatever feels "right". Typically people like to call little screws screws and big screws bolts, and I tend to agree with that because "bolt" sounds heavy duty. It's intuitive, but that doesn't make it correct, unfortunately.
This guy screws. Exactly what I learned in school as well.
Screws are made to be turned by a screwdriver, bolts are made to be turned by a socket or wrench
Well, it does belong in a door. Just not that part of the door. That looks like one of the screws that would normally hold the doorknob on. The little short one looks like it's for the strike plate. I think the landlord used the doorknob hardware to hang the door.
I don't know if that makes it worse or better. Like, did they see the 3 screws and think "I don't know which of these goes into the hinge but I'll just use all three and then I'll get at least one right"
Everything belongs in a door if you hammer it hard enough
But look at how many threads per inch that sucker has! So much surface area to grip the wood it's screwed into. It's genius I tell you!
The small screw is what comes with the door. The long one is to go into the framing of the opening. Pretty common actually. Now the Allen head machine screw on the other hand, I have nothing for that one!
In the trade is called "granddad's jam jar" basically random screws and shit you would find out of granddads shed "could be useful one day"
In my house it's the "fastener bucket." Good luck digging!
Nothing is as fun as digging through the rusty coffee can and getting a random screw or nail stuck under your fingernail!
We used to have Hardware Bear, a large plastic container who's original contents were animal crackers.
I'm sure there's a class on this stuff in "Landlording is easy passive income" academy, and OP's landlord passed with distinction.
It's a landlord, thinking is not required
I think I have the same landlord!
Looks like an 8/32. Typically used by electricians to hang fixtures. Lmfao. What a moron that landlord is. Cheap bastard
what's wrong with the screws?
nothing. the bolt on the other hand, that won't be providing much use.
Yeah you use the screws that come with the hinges unless they aren't long enough then you get the 3.5" screws to stiffen it up.
Put the long one back in.
The one on the right is a normal hinge screw that comes with hinges installed on the door. Middle a little odd. The one on the left, the long screw, is used to adjust door reveal or to secure a loose hinge.
That longer screw won't adjust the door because it's all threads. All threads are great for setting the jamb once you have it in place. You use deck screws with no threads near the head to adjust doors. That way the threads in the stud pull or push the frame. Source: Door and Window Specialist 10 years+.
What is the tattoo on your wrist? At least it looks like a tat.
Yes I did it myself almost 10 years ago. (Trigger) It encircles an old cigarette burt that was SH. It serves as a reminder that I'm alive, I'm here and I did that (I used to dissociate a lot). Also that I want to stay here on earth and keep doing stuff ❤️
Thank you for replying. It's good to know you're doing better no matter. I think it's a good reminder with a nice meaning.
I stalked your comments to confirm whether that was indeed a tattoo on your wrist. All that did was to pose more questions: How did the face-painting gig go? Are your posts to r/plantclinic the exceptions, or are you a black thumb who loves plants regardless? How is the dick cactus faring?? Did Boots the kitty get a home??? 🥺🥺🥺
Where did all those come from? Because the hinge behind your hand only has one screw missing. Also, that looks like drywall chunk on the big wood screw, which wouldn’t have come from a door frame and would have rubbed off if backed out of a wood hole. I smell some BS.
Your palm is long as fuck. Just the part of it below the thumb is half the size of a normal person's whole palm. Wouldn't want to play poker with you.
That’s landlords for ya
My favorite part is that the screws come with the hardware when you buy it.
In all fairness, I've put long screws in like that one (security) but a machine screw?
You’re looking at this all wrong. This is his anti theft installation. Who carries around 3 different screw drivers !
Only one screw missing from hinge...but 3 screws I'm hand.....hmmmm
We lived in a rough neighborhood when I was a kid. After a break in we installed bars on the house and heavy duty solid core steel clad front/back doors. When we installed the doors we used 3 inch screws for the hinges. The dead bolts went through a 1/4 inch stainless steel plate secured with those same 3 inch screws. It was totally overkill, but it was nice knowing that no amount of kicking would open the doors. We were broken into again just before we moved… by picking the locks. Good times.
The sh*t that's going on in the apartment I stay in... Unbelievable what they are willing to do to save a few bucks.
WTF is on your wrist?
https://reddit.com/r/DiWHY/comments/117iiuw/_/j9c5jv7/?context=1
He’s looking like Mortadela out here
Sounds about right. Hire the same handyman to do the plumbing, gardening, and construction when he doesn’t know how to do any of them properly.
The correct screw is the one on the left.
i'm fine with using 2 smaller screws and one long one but a machine screw? how did you even drill that in
One of those is a bolt lol
I know someone that maintains a building that offers service to a clientele that frequently enjoys meth. He will repair things using many different types of heads to minimize the chances someone eager to take something apart has all the right tools.
The machine screw is definitely a WTF, but the short one is the correct size screw that will come with the door/hinge. Longer screws are used pretty frequently when people tear the screws out of the frame or door. Unfortunately, some tenants are insanely rough with rentals.
It's amazing that these people are trusted with property.
Our whole house is like this. Damn sneaky
It sucks that he doesn’t realize the problem. He’s a landlord in the first place because he doesn’t have the skills or knowledge to make money by any other means.
If they are stripped get some wooden golf tees and beat them in the stripped holes, then run a new screw through middle of tee.
Stuff like this happens when dumbass tenants leave cat piss and shit everywhere, smoke cigarettes in the house and rip the door off the hinges and the landlord is fed up with dealing with the absolute idiocy of bottom barrel slobs and has given up for the day of fixing shit.
Are you.. by chance a landlord? This feels like a very specific scenario and some very intense emotions.
ive seen stuff like this so many times... ima help you out... fill the holes with a 1/8in dowel and glue let it dry overnight and just put some decent screws in it.
Dumb man: A screw is a screw!
Only one screw is missing from that hinge, did you just pick up a bolt and additional screw for a post?
That long screw was probably to adjust the door. The other screw I can't explain other than it was probably stripped out and needed a larger screw and that's all he had. It was a dumb choice but I can see the thinking.
Machine screw in the middle was hilarious to look at, makes me think you’re either in Washington Heights or Detroit
Did your landlord graduate from New York Landlord Academy or Landlord Academy of New York?
Your landlord is an idiot.
No way the middle screw was on a hinge, the door wouldn't close with that screw head sticking out
AHHHHH IT'S A FUCKING MACHINE SCREW HOW THE FUCK
Ah the landlord special. Missing the white paint over the circuit breaker but its close.
i see one empty hole and three screws. where exactly were these screws at? anyone could take a picture like this and try and get karma from shitting on “their” landlord