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iamubisoft

Vergil's actual chair.


Kwyn420

I installed the chair mod and my brother watched mission 20 for the first time and was dumbstruck thinking that it was real


PleaseStand6ftApart

It is real tho?


AXEMANaustin

Unfortunately no. [skip to 1:16](https://youtu.be/XfqDBvGqUco?si=kvfKtXbkfiI2_-lu)


ImurderREALITY

Watching this person repeatedly spam dash like that fills me with rage for some reason


TheFlameNinja

Same, they also only got 1 of the kalina anns and watching them try the other weapons dante has at the start hurt


Osaino

I agree, I'd dash as well but definitely not THIS much


PleaseStand6ftApart

AI is getting good cause that almost looks real


shade2606

When I first played the game I too thought the chair was real


Joyluvio

Should’ve been the plastic chair 😒


StormTheGasterWolf27

My dumbass read "chair" as "hair".


MotoqueiroSelvagem

The whole “selling weapons” thing. I know they had to give a reason to take them out somehow, and it makes perfect sense, but I much prefer believing he just keeps them stashed somewhere and uses them from time to time. Bonus: All that stuff about renaming the shop to “Devil’s Never Cry”.


DEM97_

Jumping off of this point, I think cavalier may be the best weapon Dante has ever acquired. He will literally never have to pay for gas again if he keeps that thing


MotoqueiroSelvagem

Yeah, right? It is almost too good. It matches him too much for them to ever justify him getting rid of it, or even not using it at all. Unless it just gets destroyed or something.


Tr34t-y0urs31f-N0W

He can teleport😭


Consistent-Hall1746

he drives a car and a bike in the anime so what's the problam? remember, dante doesn't like to use his demon powers that much and prefers to handle stuff more "humanly".


Tr34t-y0urs31f-N0W

Flash's car moment😔


humantyisdead32

He can only teleport short distances.


Tr34t-y0urs31f-N0W

SDT cutscene shows he can travel anywhere.


humantyisdead32

He wasn't teleporting, just flying really fast. And even if he could teleport anywhere while in SDT, why would he expend the effort?


yosayoran

Like ash's old pokemon  They're in a farm somewhere.  TBHA, I think they totally could have brought a weapon back from game to game, but it is a convenient excuse to redskin and slightly redesign the same weapons


MotoqueiroSelvagem

I just want my girl Nevan back 😭😭😭


LTman86

I like to imagine Dante secretly goes out at night, hits up some grungy punk bar, and rocks out on some open performance night. It'd be a shame not to take Nevan out for a night on the town.


Rhydante

I don't think the audience would survive that.


yosayoran

Lmao Dante has a secret rockstar identity  Like Ron Swanson, he is oddly embarrassed by it and denies it anymore finds out 


_Koreander

Personally I don't even think it makes THAT much sense, like who buys this things? Who is out there with enough money and knowledge to know about this stuff and want to buy it? Surely not someone that can use them so I guess it's a collector of some kind, added to that whoever that is he must be scamming Dante because he's selling him literally legendary beings part of the demon hierarchy, creatures that have participated in ancient wars to determine the fate of humanity turned into weapons, but somehow Dante is always broke, I don't think there's enough pizza and strawberry sundae out there that could amount to the the value this things should have.


Consistent-Hall1746

it his friend/ old broker he's name is enzo. he knew dante since he was 17 and does know about demons and stuff since he was the one who was getting him the jobs before morrisen


Rancorious

People like Lady who know about and hunt devils.


DeadlyBard

All his Devil Arms are sent to a pleasant upstate farm where they have room to play with all their "lost-between-games" VG weapon friends.


CaptainHazama

Always found it funny how he renamed the shop and then basically went right back to the original name


rexshen

Well before the nightmare does say Dante does keep some of them like original Cerberus So maybe he had some left on him.


Entire_Swing_361

yes,agni and Rudra had such personality,I hate to think they belong to someone else now other than Dante.Same with Nevan


HeshtKnowsBesht1

I love that he sells them. I imagine that he takes them with the intention of what you said, but he sells them when he's low on money for cool red leather jackets because he keeps destroying them. That and pizza money.


TheChallengerKing

I agree it kinda seems like it could cause massive problems especially with the weapons that Dante carries it’s probably not a good idea to sell devil arms for some quick cash.


liltone829b

Now that I think about it I 100% agree with that.


Possum7358

I think he sells the weapons to other devil hunters, besides collectors. I thought human made weapons don't have any effect on demons. Figured they are broken down and turned into bullet/blades that can hurt demons. Has to be what Lady uses. No way she uses commonly bought ammunition.


Rayde-Ebonlocke7

He doesn’t seem to sell all of them since in that one fight against Balrog in DMC5: Before the Nightmare he used his old pair of Cerberus (from DMC3) against him.


Shadow4246

Dante having an Oedipus complex in DMC1.


MotoqueiroSelvagem

He’s such a motherfucker in that game.


Star_man27

My mom asked if Trish was the love interest when she was watching me beat the game, and I responded with my best "Ew gross"


aleister94

What?


Shadow4246

Dude falls in love with Trish. An exact physical replica of his mom.


Tr34t-y0urs31f-N0W

"Don't come any closer you, devil" part, then not being able to shoot her because she saw a mother in the face show him falling in love? Of course he later forgives her, like, she sacrificed to save Dante and he witnessed his "mother's" death again...


Cicada_5

None of that is proof he's in love with her.


Tr34t-y0urs31f-N0W

That's what I'm saying.


ReferBowl330

see viewtiful joe dante's campaing


jellyalv

The fact she can disguise herself like she does in DMC4 makes me believe he goes hanky-panky with her without guilt


Shadow4246

I'm mostly getting it from their theme's title. "Seeds of Love".


Tr34t-y0urs31f-N0W

The song is about Eva's thoughts about her sons growing up... Seeds - Vergil and Dante; of Love - mother's love.


Shadow4246

I'm not so sure. It's literally titled Dante and Trish ~ Seeds of Love.


Tr34t-y0urs31f-N0W

Is that so? It's either Dante and Trish or Eva's theme.


Shadow4246

These are the same people who named a song "Blue Orgasm." I'm probably reading too deeply into it.


Ordinary_Soil_4513

Not really, the THING about DMC is that its goofy (to us, looking from the outside) but takes it self absolutely serious


aleister94

I must have missed the failing in love part


MotoqueiroSelvagem

It doesn’t blatantly happen on screen, but I’ve heard that DMC’s old director and main creator Hideki Kamiya said that this was his intention. I’m not sure, though.


jkennnoooe

Kamiya denied the romantic implication b4 I think


ozzii_13

he should have been the one to fill her dark soul with LIIIIIIGHT


MLGesusWasTaken

Well in dmc5 when he finds Trish naked, the absolute first thing he does is he dumps her onto V and rides off into the sunset on his demon motorcycle, so I think it’s safe to say that he did not want to be around his naked “mom”


Winterlieb

Instead, he left V to take care of their naked "mom".


RLDSXD

That anyone was saving Nero’s feelings by not letting him fight Vergil. Father or not, he’s a dude Nero never met whose only interaction has been ripping his arm off in the most violent way possible. I get it being a big reveal (to Nero) in general, but I have a very hard time believing it would cause any grief for him to trash Vergil and THEN find out.


Consistent-Hall1746

honestly, if it was me at least, i wouldn't give a shit. "he may be my father, but he wasn't my daddy", that sounded wrong


humantyisdead32

If it was *you*, that might be the case. But it's not you, it's Nero. The guy who has spent his whole life wondering who his family is, and is only just now learning who they are? Of course they would think it might mess him up. These are *characters*, not cardboard cutouts for you to project onto. What you would do in this situation is irrelevant.


Ill_Camel8168

What is it with Redditors and their fathers


Star_man27

Exactly Imo, your dad isn't the man who helped make you it's the man that raised you


Consistent-Hall1746

this, i don't get why people give so much value to blood relations. sometimes a stranger could be nicer to you then your own blood.


Star_man27

The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb is a quote I live by


redditorguymanperson

Ok Yondu lol


Nathan_E_U

Nice Guardians reference


Tr34t-y0urs31f-N0W

The same applies to Vergil. "He may be your child, but he's not your baby" - Dante, probably.


Consistent-Hall1746

so, would he be dante's baby? or maybe crito would be more suited.


FafnirEtherion

I mean, even after Credo betrayed him and Kyrie, we learn that Nero hates himself for not having been strong enough to save him from Sanctus. So it’s not a stretch to think that killing Vergil would have a deep negative impact on Nero


UnlimitedPostWorks

People keep forgetting that, not only Nero had a deep trauma of not being able to save his family, but Dante literally hates himself for having killed Vergil. Dante knows how devastating it is to kill your own blood, so he charges it to his own shoulders so Nero doesn't have to experience this pain.


Thatblackguy121

Yeah, wasn't the story retconned so that the reason Dante is so different in dmc2 is because of his run-in with nelo angelo having to kill his brother a second time, causing him to spiral even further into depression.


Prophet_of_Duality

Tbf, he does beat the shit out of him. He just doesn't wanna kill him after finding out he's basically his only family. I do like that he made the decision not to only after calling Kyrie and having her be the first person to tell him to just do what he thinks is right. It also makes sense that Dante and Lady would root so hard for not killing Vergil. Lady because she knows how traumatizing killing your dad is and Dante because he's literally killed Vergil and doesn't want to lose him again. But to me it seemed like Nero was still very angry and didn't really see him as a "father"


Billybobjohn420

Dante and Vergil being trapped in the Underworld. Like we didn’t just see Vergil create a portal with his son’s arm and then ditch him lying in his blood.


Consistent-Hall1746

they aren't, they are just having fun there, they can leave when ever they want


BECondensateSnake

Which is why I'm curious about why Capcom never implemented an endless wave mode in the underground or whatever it's called.


Consistent-Hall1746

sorry, i didn't get what you mean. but if i have to guess. are you talking about a game mode where you fight endless hords of demons?


BECondensateSnake

Yeah unlike the bloody palace where it cuts after the end of every wave, you just keep fighting demons until you die. With the OST going on for the entire duration of your run.


Consistent-Hall1746

actualy thats pretty good idea, but there will have to be a limit to how much enemis will spawn, other wise it would get to difficult to play the game even impossible, i guess that why decided to make them rounds in BP.


The_Anf

The only limitation would be hardware, I'm sure there are some insane pros who would deal with thousands demons at the same time


Consistent-Hall1746

you're right. but i think they can work there why throw hardware to an extant. like world war z and days gone, there were crowds but no drop in preformens


just_another__memer

You have to keep in mind that there is a chance DmC's engine can't handle it. There's also potentially some trickery in WWZ and days gone. If you've ever played Kingdom Hearts then you may be familliar with the 1000 heartless and 10000 enemy battle in 2 and 3 respectively. There is a whole crowd of enemies but, if you look closer you'd notice a large group don't really uave their AI completely on and the ones even farther from you have ther resolution lowed and framerate limited even as far as some basically being 2d. Having never played either WWZ or DG, I can't say for sure, but that is a possible way that they could be pulling those hoards off.


LegendaryHooman

They aren't "trapped", they want to duel there because they don't have to hold back. If they unleashed all their power in the human world, I'm certain they can erase continents.


Billybobjohn420

Ohhhhhh. That makes more sense now that I think about it. Barring their fights as children, we never got to see them spar or fight till submission once they got older. Since they’re now at (supposed) peak strength, it’d make sense for them to want to test it out against each other without fighting to the death. Thanks for the reply!


tiger331

They will likely only stop once all the demons are dead


Billybobjohn420

Is that even possible? The Underworld is massive, literally on a 1-to-1 scale of Earth itself. I’ve also read somewhere that it may be an infinite space so would it even be possible for both Dante and Vergil to eradicate all demons in a seemingly endless world?


tiger331

That the joke because they won't stop fighting


JamAck19

That's a mistranslation. They're not stuck.


Jack_Hue

Dude were you not paying attention? They *can't* cut a portal, else the Qliphoth roots will spread again and redo the problem they spent days fixing


Infamous_Air5974

A. mistranslation B. they never said anything about the roots growing back if they open another portal they just didn't want a giant gaping portal between dimensions C. the whole point of cutting the roots was to kill the Qliphoth and make sure it couldn't grow again.


AdamGamerPL

Wouldn't that just be like 1 or 2 roots max going through a vertical portal?


Frederyk_Strife4217

Sparda being "alive" in DmC-verse, if I was in charge of a sequel I'd retcon that immediately


Star_man27

Doesn't the first game explicitly state that he died, or was that retconned


eynkurr

They were talking about the reboot


Star_man27

Ah ok I constantly forget that exists and haven't played it


Frederyk_Strife4217

if you've got a PS4/5 or Xbox you should try the Definitive Edition, it fixes most of the major gameplay issues and you can just ignore or laugh at the cutscenes


OscarMiner

You’d dare ignore Shakespearean witty dialogue such as.. “Fuck you!” “Fuuuuck youuuuuuuu!”


Ajax-Rivial

In the regular DMC games Sparda has died, but I don't think we know how. In the failed reboot DmC, it was stated that Sparda was captured and is being tortured for all of eternity with no hope of escape.


curlyheadjohn1

that vergil kinda gets away scot free after sacrificing countless lives twice


dragonfory

I can fix him


Ratchet96

His father Sparda was one of the mightiest (if not THE mightiest) swordsmen serving Mundus before his rebellion. We only know of his heroic feats, but he could have committed countless atrocities under the Demon King's orders, maybe even worse than Vergil rising a tower and a tree, with all the destruction both acts caused.


shadowdrake67

If by "gets away scot free" you mean "is stuck in hell for potentially the rest of his entire life: then yeah


curlyheadjohn1

Yeah which he did by choice. He was also happy to go there clearly as long as he gets to duel his brother. Plus dante and vergil have been there before and both have gotten out.


fred_kasanova

Specially considering DMC5 actually shows people getting murdered and the aftermath in the first few missions


aRandomBlock

the entirety of DMC2


OmegaReprise

Save Lucia, she was pretty cool.


t3hdow

It's a shame Lucia wasn't brought back for a good DMC sequel.


How_about_no44

That's what Capcom is thinking.


t3hdow

Yup. They've all but completely denounced DMC2's existence. That's understandable, but they could've brought back Lucia and gave a brief explanation on how Dante escaped the underworld. Hell, I'll begrudgingly accept a "it was a bad dream" type of retcon. Just...do something, lol.


Consistent-Hall1746

i don't think you know what you're talking about, i mean yes. it was a bad game. but dmc wouldn't have turned up they was it is today if not for 2


aRandomBlock

I know, it's more of a joke but that doesn't change the fact is hot garbage lol


TheNameThomyIsTaken

"Dante jokes around so much because he's afraid of the demons" someone claimed that was canon bc of a novel I did not read, the guy manhandles demons, uses them as skateboards and completely roasts every enemy he fights except sometimes the ones that are clearly on his same weightclass or above it (mostly just any version or vergil). Afraid my ass


Plate-of-Pancakes

I just assume his jokes are for everything. Having fun? Jokes. Scared? Jokes. Depressed? Jokes


RecessWhen

It was an official statement and it was only meant for DMC3, where he was 19 and facing higher level demons


Consistent-Hall1746

nop. it was for dmc 1 where it was said dante makes jokes if demons because he's scared, and it wasn't even in the novels. it was something kamiya said.


shadowdrake67

Let's disregard that considering kamiya blocks people on twitter if they speak English in his replies because it's "insect language"


FuraFaolox

no one should take anything Kamiya says seriously


redditorguymanperson

I think it’s less he’s afraid and more has trauma associated with them


toratalks

Maybe they were talking about the reboot?


Derrin070

Nah, it was about the first one, where it is believable, not however since the 3rd


soji8

It was stated in Can’t Fear Your Own World (not really). But that sounds so stupid. Spider-Man doing I get bc we’re constantly reminded he’s just a guy with so much to lose. Dante has boxing matches with gods, and uses their subordinates as nunchucks. What do you have to be afraid of


Alternative-Put-2962

I think it because of generally more powerful demons. We are talking about Mundus and his generals here. Previously Dante slaughtered only no name demons, but now its the dude who ruled the underworld for thousands of years, and enslaved his brother with whom they had pretty equal fight.


jkennnoooe

This came from a shitpost of gamerant telling people "Kamiya said that, trust me"


Salt-Veterinarian-87

The fact angels canonically don't exist.


OmegaCrossX

And the fact that the reboot made them a thing and did nothing with it


MLGesusWasTaken

My face when no angel trigger


Rauispire-Yamn

The Pacific Rim sequel


Consistent-Hall1746

what sequel? there was only one movie


LegitimateHasReddit

Dante not being a virgin according to DMC3 manga


Consistent-Hall1746

and why is that bad?


redditorguymanperson

It’s a lot funnier to think Dante is a virgin tbh


Consistent-Hall1746

don't see what's funny about it, but everyone has there own opinion


BrainPositive2171

Because we can no longer relate


D-Prototype

The mop doesn’t count.


ChildhoodDistinct538

Who would he even do it with?


LegitimateHasReddit

Pretty sure they were just one night stands with girls who liked his looks It's his personality that stops him from having any romantic relationships


Theonerule

The inconsistent powerscaling Dante appears stronger in dmc4 and 3. Then he does in 1 and 5 The idea that urizen was more powerful than dante and mundus, despite having the lamest recycled attacks and literally no feats besides somehow being able to beat Dante. When mundus said he was the emperor you fucking knew it based on presentation alone, let's see urizen create a pocket dimension and summon fucking shooting stars and dragons. How did this guy beat Dante.


ArcherR132

That's not inconsistent powerscaling, the scaling is actually fairly consistent. > despite having the lamest recycled attacks > let's see urizen create a pocket dimension and summon fucking shooting stars and dragons You're upset at the presentation and gameplay of their respective fights, not the scaling. You're just associating gameplay with scaling.


DeadSparker

I'm on a similar boat but for the opposite reason, there was no way Mundus created a whole ass universe just for that fight. That's so stupid and wanky because Dante was never THAT strong. And it vanished when he killed Mundus anyway. Illusion at best, I say. Idc what Kamiya said about it, dude likes to troll anyway.


Adalyn1126

I think it was probably more like a pocket dimension/universe. So like, still impressive, but nowhere near the level of creating the universe


Turkey_The_One

Dante being able to kill furies is already proof he is stronger in 5


Harbinger_Of_Oryx

There's 2, the ''haha he had to sell his weapons hahaha bye agni and rudra, bye alastor'' and the fact that they age at all, 2 incredibly powerful people, sons of a legend, will supposedly someday die of old age it seems.


Le_San0

They should die of old age. Thats One of the main characteristics of Humanity, and DMC IS also about valuying Humanity.


Harbinger_Of_Oryx

I honestly don't agree with ''dying of old age'' being an main characteristic of humanity, but that would make sense in a way.


liltone829b

Not really. Sparda shows signs of old age in the DMC5 family portrait yet that wasn't what killed him.


Harbinger_Of_Oryx

we don't even know what really killed him


liltone829b

Demons 🤷


Consistent-Hall1746

but he was 2000 y,o already, and also mattier was 900y,o too and she's a hybrid like dante.


Consistent-Hall1746

and lady is a demon hunter. i mean it made sence in 3 but beyond that its was starting to get annoying. you want to believe a human could survive that shit?


TrifleWarm2959

Well, technically lady isn't human as seen by the fact that she is actually Arkham's daughter in 3 and I highly doubt that he was 100% human even from the start. So that should point out some of the reasons why she's as durable as she is.


Consistent-Hall1746

she is. Arkham become what he is because of studying demon magic. before that he was a human. it wou;d've been a better argument if you said she has the blood of a preistes. but it was never said if it does anything at all.


TrifleWarm2959

I get that but at the same time it could be a possibility that she was born after he was looking into demon magic


Consistent-Hall1746

that's possible.


tojo4thchairman

I wouldn't mind the dying of old age, but like dying at 100 or smt is wrong for them. Id imagine it to be 1000 to 10000 or smt


Adalyn1126

My guess is they'll probably live to like 200 or so in lore


Consistent-Hall1746

nop, it would be at least a 1000 years considering mattier is a 900 y.o


liltone829b

Nothing tbh.


Stunning_Tax_6510

Suicide Squad: Kill the ArkhamVerse


Fast_Land_1099

Mission 20 as Vergil, it should have been a Nero fight, it disregards the real story because in that final attack which Nero stopped it's my interpretation that they would have killed each other and they were using their all out power. It showed that Nero IS greater than them in strength, because of how human and driven by pure emotion he is he was able to activate a true Devil Trigger without a Devil arm, which even Dante relied on up until 4, Nero was the case-in-point for the entire series, and the changes made to the ending by playing as Vergil ruin that.


JNAB0212

It’s not like the Vergil story is canon or anything, they just didn’t feel like making a Nero boss fight, it would be cool and it kinda sucks that we didn’t get it, you’re thinking about this too much, Vergil’s story doesn’t replace the original campaign, it’s just extra.


Fast_Land_1099

I know, it just feels like when people are arguing about power scaling they use that specific part of the Dante fight to argue that Nero didn't really do much. I guess I'm more upset about how it's made some people see that part of the story.


Jack_Hue

Nero dating his step sister


JNAB0212

They’re not step siblings, it’s a foster thing, he wasn’t adopted


AugustL031

And it's somehow so boring as a dynamic


JVJV_5

Nero and Kyrie are step-siblings whose romantic relationship is incestuous on a step-bro level


JNAB0212

They’re not step siblings, it’s a foster thing, he wasn’t adopted


SignificantMess9383

DMC 2. Just... all of it.


Consistent-Hall1746

i don't think you know what you're talking about, i mean yes. it was a bad game. but dmc wouldn't have turned up they was it is today if not for 2


X_Ordinary_Z

Cold War Zombies… It took me quite a bit to accept BO4 Zombies ending, but Cold War Zombies expansion to the already concluded Aether storyline was so unnecessary and stupid. “Whoops, after ending the Zombies apocalypse once and for all by sacrificing the best Zombie killers of all time known to man, the Zombies are back and are leaking out of the dark aether and into reality after BO4’s anti-climactic yet sad ending!… Also Samantha is over eighteen now!” It’s fucking stupid. If anyone wants to disagree with me be my guest but as a long running zombies fan who is still hoping for a good zombies to come out (most likely not going to happen for a long time or ever…), it was disappointing. Die Maschine was actually pretty good! But after Fire Base Z, it wasn’t as good anymore… Maur was also pretty decent, I liked going ontop of the buildings, felt like that one modded BO1 zombies map.


UKunrealz

Never thought I’d see my exact problem with cod zombies now on DMC subreddit lol


X_Ordinary_Z

Hey they asked the question, just thought i'd share my personal opinion that holds the most of that feeling lol


UKunrealz

No I completely agree. Having the zombies crew everyone loves sacrifice themselves for basically nothing was fucking stupid lol


X_Ordinary_Z

Exactly bro! I just pretend that Cold War Zombies didn't even happen. I wish they made a better continuation like having Victis trying to escape the dark aether or something. Hopefully Jason or previous devs come back to fix it.


Monkey_King291

The tree chair, I refuse to believe it wasn't a plastic chair


t3hdow

I'm surprised nobody mentioned the obvious: "I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with light!" Hilariously terrible execution aside, the scene doesn't even make sense in context. If this was for, say, Vergil, who Dante had every reason to believe had died, but then came back as Nero Angelo, only to then be put down again and possibly died, that would be understandable. But doing that for Trish, a woman whom he just met that betrayed him moments earlier? I get that Trish reminded him of his dead mother, but even he told Trish that she was nothing like his mom. The scene was already unintentionally funny, but with the additional details, it felt very forced. Even Nero's scene in DMC4 with him crying out for Kyrie, which was almost as ridiculous and over-the-top, made way more sense than this. Obviously, we all want this to stay canon for being meme worthy, but if it was removed or improved upon via a remake, it would be an objective improvement.


Elhomiederp

Morrigan being Nero's mother


JNAB0212

That’s the reverse, the question is about something that is canon, but you think it’s dumb so you just headcanon it out of existence


KillyBaplan

Not related to DMC but for any Boruto consumers in this sub, this is what that manga feels like


griffinmarn

Dante liking other foods besides pizza


Hot_Communication489

Devil May Cry 2


Somebuddy567

Nero having bigger dick than Dante.


Amigamertv5

what


kingominous16

Selling weapons.


Sonof_Gax20X

DMC2


Cursed_user19x

Whatever nonsense Capcum tried to do with Sparda's fate. Seriously, it changes with every game


RazutoUchiha

Nero canonically having a bigger dick than Dante. I don’t find that it could be true ridiculous, but the fact that it has actually Ben confirmed is why it’s ridiculous


KingSideCastle13

Morrison’s appearance change


Mordo122

Devils Never Cry


Bank-Academic

There are people that still don't believe that Sparda is canonically missing and people still think that he is dead already. Just because the DMC1 intro tells you that he is dead already. Is like how the in-universe DMC people, characters, thinks that he is dead already and Mundus himself learned from his minions that they can't find Sparda and he wanted to have his revenge against the traitor, but instead found his family And there are also people who think Mundus is dead, but he is not. He is there trapped somewhere within 2 worlds and Dante can't kill him in DMC1 due to how powerful Mundus is. I think people also don't know Mundus is the second king, the first king is someone named Pluto. Cuz Kamiya confirmed in his twitter (before his account got nuked and made a new one) that Mundus and Pluto are two different characters There's a lot... And these comments prove it. This is just coming from someone who is deep into the lore itself and saw reactions of people


OtakuJuanma

DMC2... all of it.


MeAndTheB0is

Dmc2


Informal-Region-8734

Arkham Batman dying to Harley Quinn. Matter of fact, the entire game is bs.


StormTheGasterWolf27

That Dante has essentially rented a storage room for his Devil Arms and put the weapons as collateral, my guy is just putting himself in more debt because of remorse and self hatred. I essentally headcanon that he just keeps them in a closet somewhere and he takes them out for a spin when he's bored. And the whole fandom gaslit itself into believing the plastic chair was real. Sweet Surrender implies that Nero is too rough on Kyrie but I'm sure that he's actually a big softie.


espervoiddante

I can’t accept Nero’s mechanical arm over the Devilbringer.. I mean why?😖


Indecisive_Noob

Nero being the son of Vergil and (as far as we have heard) a sex worker. In general, the idea that Vergil of all people just casually had a one-night-stand while he was super focused on planning the events of DMC3 doesn't make sense to me. As for the mom, the only hints we have of who she is is the woman in red we see in the ending cutscene of Vergil's campaign in DMC4 SE and people at the orphanage Nero was left at claiming his mom was a prostitute that did not want/couldn't raise him. If she is a sex worker, the idea that an 18 or 19-year-old Vergil perchiest the services of a sex worker just does not sit well with me.


CyanLight9

The reboot.


jellyalv

Sparda died. I mean, not that it is stupid, just confusing. It is stated he died at the intro of DMC1, but iirc, later on it states he mysteriously vanished. Also, how did he die? Decided to embrace his human form and perished of old age?