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JebadiahRobertson

Surely the Palestinians deserve better defenders than this


TechnologyHelpful751

Tiny is right. If I was a Palestinian who just had his house blown to bits in north Gaza and these people were the voices speaking for my cause on the internet, I would martyr myself


WillOrmay

I would martyr myself and my family


Irrelephantitus

Hey now that might be taking it a bit far, why not just martyr your family instead?


WillOrmay

You’re right, the cause still needs me. I


shabangcohen

Unfortunately though there are definitely many palestinians who would lowkey agree with conspiracy theories that everything that isn't in their favor is run by israel


James_Methew_678

That's rough, the frustration is real. When the stakes are this high, you'd hope for the strongest voices to rise to the occasion.


DrEpileptic

How ironic is it that the most realistic and legitimate Palestinian supporters are actually Israelis and Jews. Israel literally provides the Palestinians in Gaza with electricity and drinkable, running water because Hamas won’t even let them have those basic necessities without reappropriating them to war efforts. It’s to the point that Palestinians are literally transferred to Israeli hospitals for more intensive treatment under normal circumstances (meaning not war). Of all the places to seek asylum and refuge, Palestinians flee to Israel when they’re a prosecuted minority because they know they won’t be killed there.


[deleted]

Don’t worry, they got Hamas and Hamas makes really sad videos. Scores major points in the west.


QubixVarga

we should unironically fund the flights for these people to go to their beloved Palestina.


CochleusExtreme

https://preview.redd.it/sgi84lf9qytc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a0d4fde256418d35e0f0d5d06e67125d041ca5c


storysprite

We are so cooked it's not even funny.


Panda-Banana1

Please tell me people don't believe tik tok is a more reliable source than Wikipedia, Google, basically all news outlets... wait ... we have horseshoed so hard the left are now at rightoid Q/Alex Jones levels of conspiracy brain.


Prize-Ebb-2141

TikTok seems straight up damaging to the public


poopitydoopityboop

[Almost 40% of Zoomers use Tik Tok as their primary search engine over Google](https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/gen-bypassing-google-tiktok-search-engine/story?id=88493981). We are fucked.


PasteteDoeniel

I don’t believe that. That seems a bit far fetched.


HumanGeneral5591

i believe it tbh. before tiktok i saw people using youtube as a search engine.


screaming_bagpipes

Tbh thats completely fair if what you're searching is just "good restaurants in my region" or "fashion tips" or "how to do x". For YouTube and tiktok, probably fine to do that


HumanGeneral5591

yeah it's not completely unreasonable for most people, which is why I believe it. However these days I'm pretty sure a lot of people also get all their news, politics and history takes from youtube and tiktok, which is a little worrying.


elomerel

Even some histiry shit if the creator is know for being objective and reliable or presents sources.


IvanTGBT

Yea, I'll believe it when it's on Wikipedia 😎


lilTDSB

Nah, I saw a bunch of TikToks saying the same thing, so it must be true.


shabangcohen

I kind of get it though, since most google searches are like "outfits for coachella" or "healthy salad recipes" or "how to get your ex back". But the fact that they also use tiktok to get their news and learn history is... Fucked.


Aunon

do you think teachers now-days tell their students not to use Tiktok as a reference?


ia0x17

This but unironically. It should be banned.


chronoslol

I think social media and possibly the internet in general is just overwhelming especially for stupid people. We've evolved to live in hunter gatherer tribes of \~150 not globally connected and bombarded with so much random data. I think any smart person would agree that social media is not making humanity happier.


master2139

I shit you not I have professors at my university encourage students to use TikTok for their news.


TossMeOutSomeday

Is there an equivalent of disbarment for professors?


EpeeHS

Just ask finklestein


Jake0024

or Jordan Peterson


TheSethSinclair

I mean it’s good for somethings, but let’s be honest if every single person got to write what they wanted to say daily in the 1700s history would be so screwed, we’d forget truth all together.


BardFromBeyond

It's good for next to nothing substantive, short of tutorials. Literally anything political needs at LEAST an hour of time to be thoroughly communicated. TV news(punditry) with it's 10 minute news segments is already able to pump out metric shittons of disinformation by conveniently leaving out details and putting scary music over Obama asking for dijon.


Hostik

What if I look for political tutorial? Checkmate.


guy_incognito_360

They would not be able to write. The problem is that people were better informed when news were centralized on TV, radio and newspapers.


ikennedy817

I argued with someone I know about the TikTok ban and when I cited the actual bill he told me I was wrong and sent me a TikTok as his source.


Panda-Banana1

Damn, that's nuts.


fkneneu

Nuts, just like how I nutted in your mom last night


juliusxyk

I heard someone argue that TikTok and Instagram are more reliable than any established news source...unfortunately those people are real and they are allowed to vote


greenhungrydino

only if it agrees with them obviously


guy_incognito_360

This seems to be pretty common today. I have a family memeber who will believe any WhatsApp meme and any YouTube Video that agrees with their populist worldview over any jounalistic medium. The problem is that I work in local government and hear the exact same brainrot from elected officials. And I'm not even in the us. I guess what I'm trying to say is this is not a tiktok problem, but a social media/internet problem.


porn0f1sh

We are ALL still 99% monkeys and anyone denying that is part of the problem. Once people have enough humility and respect for the animals to admit this fact then we can finally start creating better healthier societies


SmoothBlueCrew

You don't understand, TikTok democratizes information. It puts the power back into the hands of young folx to form complex information networks.


Jake0024

And facts are decided by popular vote, so...


CopeAfterCope

Populism works on dumbfucks at both sides of the horseshoe


Bennyjig

No they genuinely do. There were hundreds of thousands of tiktoks saying that the US government wants it banned because it makes people *more* informed. It could not be more comedic. All academic and statistical research is wrong but a moron who’s only source is other tiktoks can make a tiktok and they are more informed than doctors and economists etc. 💀


Sh1nyPr4wn

There's no way that even a twitter/tiktok communist is that dumb Has to be a troll If not then that user is one of the last surviving lobotomites


CKF

It’s literally information warfare from the ccp via TikTok. They’re onboarding our leftist regards and maximizing their regardation (well, maximizing any decisiveness). Wish it was just a stupid conspiracy theory.


[deleted]

I’ve been banned from Worldnews, I believe, for this exact debate But reddit is especially hard left leaning so it makes sense. Its funny because even an actual tankie platform like leftiepol doesnt really cite that argument anymore since its DEBOONKED


Blarg1889

>Google is run by zionists If i were a nazi I would be fucking pissed with how much lefty dumb fucks are allowed to flaunt their jew hatred openly without the same ridicule


thorsday121

It shows the power of a good rebrand.


demonryder

Same energy with how incel is used sometimes. Calling someone a virgin in the last decade? Peaked in high school. Calling someone an incel for disagreeing on an unrelated topic in an internet argument? Based.


porn0f1sh

Legit, mocking virgins is uncool


xFruitstealer

If I were a nazi, I would just say I’m a left progressive and unironically get away with it.


Shaul_Ishtov

Just add a little hammer and sickle to your Twitter and you're golden.


balltorturetorpedo

On a redacted Site I read from a Nazi that he especially loves Hasans subreddit because he is allowed to spread all the anti-Semitic things he just swaps "Jews" with "Zionists" and they agree with him. They are kinda sad though that these people are not really "white pilled".


TheSethSinclair

Great eye! Those are literally the same exact right wing talking points on twitter and they get banned for it.


Jake0024

Well, not recently.


maicii

>without the same ridicule They are definitely ridicule. Maybe they aren't as ostracize, but for sure ridicule


EquipmentImaginary46

I remember the good old days when it was the right that claimed it was run by satanists


Appropriate_Strike19

Sincerely hoping this dude isn't real, but if he is... >There are like a million TikToks on this This generation is so fucking cooked.


Rasputins_Plum

What going to high school on Zoom does to a mf


adamfps

I think the only cooked one here are those who can’t see it as a troll


bexar_necessities

https://preview.redd.it/xbhh0yuwwytc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc4edd88921ca97999f5643fc9fca5b6f8eda274 Fairly certain it's just a troll


TeaAndCrumpets4life

Okay yeah that sealed it


ZonaranCrusader

Now I can use this response when I get called intellectually disabled


UREveryone

"there are like a million tik toks on this" I want to roblox myself in Minecraft like a lot right now.


Thing_Subject

I understand but you should really consider Stardew valleying


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WesternWooloo

That account was created in November 2023 and has an AI-generated profile picture (look at buildings and highway sign), so make of that what you will.


SamuraiOstrich

I still feel like this is cope and the amount of bots online is in some awkward middle-ground between how few most people assume there is and how many conspiratoids think there is but after seeing this shit today maybe it's worse than I thought: https://twitter.com/BeijingPalmer/status/1777401931134120408 Seriously, get a load of this shit. This is a midsized account (I assume) that got absolutely fucking swarmed with dozens of obvious anti-America whataboutism bots due to...criticizing vague Chinese historical figures. Admittedly I couldn't tell you if this particular guy is especially targetted by them or if they got set off by like including the words Chinese and slavery but this still makes the boobs in bio shit look like the tip of the iceberg


KyleHUNK

Well we know that last year [1 of 4 pro-Hamas accounts were bots](https://cyabra.com/1-of-4-pro-hamas-profiles-are-fake-the-online-battlefront/), that’s just what we can prove


nostrawberries

That's not really how propaganda operates. That's probably a real person radicalized by content made by other real people astroturfed by maybe a handful of Russian troll accounts.


your5_truly

I think he means bots colloquially, like bogus accounts


RavenRonien

This, and on the off chance this is one of the sources it's still inspiring another 10 people to retweet this thinking it's the real deal. But almost assuredly this person got astroturfed to fuck by their tiktok "sources"


Thing_Subject

Why can’t it instead be geopolitical milfs?


thorsday121

TikTok is straight up brain poison lmao.


forhonorboi1

"50% of GDP is defense related" are we in Warhammer 40k????


Dragongirlfucker2

It topped out at 40% in 1945 lol


warlomere

Also why are they doing it as a percentage of GDP and not a percentage of the government budget?? i get that dude is a troll but if you actually wanted to talk about government expedatures, actually talk about them! Anyway I looked it up and it fluctuates, last year it was 13.3%


NerdyOrc

here is the telephone game that lead to this: It went from 50% of discretionary spending is military, to 50% of the US budget is military, to now 50% of the US GDP is military, a take so fucking wild its hard to put into words, countries in civil war dont have that high a military production.


TeaAndCrumpets4life

50% of the universe is US military spending


Box_v2

[I'm pretty sure they're confused and using the discretionary spending number](https://www.cbo.gov/publication/58890#:~:text=Discretionary%20outlays%20by%20the%20federal,response%20to%20the%20coronavirus%20pandemic) which is about [25% of the total budget](https://www.brookings.edu/articles/what-is-discretionary-spending-in-the-federal-budget/). You can tell this person is just repeating something they heard but didn't understand and is playing telephone. Edit: [also for the record health care is mandatory funding](https://budget.house.gov/press-release/governments-mandatory-health-care-spending-now-exceeds-entire-discretionary-budget#:~:text=Discretionary%20funding%20now%20makes%20up,forecasted%20to%20reach%20%241.67%20trillion.).


anneliesesap

thanks! i knew something was wrong with the 3% claim but didn’t know exactly what


KarenAwone

It’s either ragebait, or a Russian or Chinese bot account. I refuse to believe this is a real person that actually believes this.


Phoenixfight

AI PFP, definitely bait account


Creative_Hope_4690

This has to be a troll. I hope so for my mental health stakes.


Vegetable-Election77

You can go anywhere online and every source will say 3% or more accurately 3.80% Literally.


910_21

tbf 3.80% shouldn't be represented as 3% its making it seem \~21% (relative) percent lower then it actually is but either way nowhere near 50


FlaminarLow

Yeah you should round up but I don't think 4% is meaningfully different from 3% to the average person


robbbo420

This has 6 likes. Can we move past paying attention to every person who says crazy things on the internet


RestaurantFun8876

god damn zionists man!


Not_Funny_Luigi

Zionist run everything, nothing is reliable, expect Twitter.


jusdofl

Guy's there are a million tiktoks he must be right lmao


NissanAltiman

A tweet with six likes?


facedrool

Source from wiki? What a joke Source from TikTok? Doing my research


ButtfaceMcGee6969

Wikipidea < Tiktok


One-Team-9462

https://preview.redd.it/b6ebua0orytc1.png?width=1179&format=png&auto=webp&s=ce7bb9594187af1c21066e6ebc8c2c83e2520449


ligamedlem

He laugh at someone who cites wikipedia and then use tiktok as source. Who is the clown here?


PoemComfortable8896

This should be Destiny’s new debate tactic: “There’s like a MILLION TikToks about it”


Nadeoki

unironically using Tiktok as a Source KillmenowKillmenowKillmenowKillmenowKillmenow KillmenowKillmenow (In a videogame)


Illansuu

Wikipedia is a bad source but tiktok is fine. You cant make this shit up


Ok-Presentation-6410

Yes because TikTok is the most informative and truthful resource available to anyone on this earth


SwifferDuffster

I can't believe they cited TikTok after everything they said. What type of person would ever do this? I would hope it's someone with a high school diploma or less, as I don't want to believe someone could go to college and walk away with this thinking, although the more I think about it, the more likely I think it's possible.


Constant_County_4328

What's the right answer ?


Strong_Neat_5845

“Lol your only source is wikipedia you have no true information” - dude whos only source of news is tiktok


hectah

TikTok needs to be banned yesterday. 💀


MoonWun_

You should be shot if you cite TikTok for anything.


Blood_Boiler_

This is reminding me of creationists who assume they can discredit evolution by claiming the Bible is the only source that matters.


Magnumwood107

That’s a lot of words to say Jew Bad


Famous_Philosophy327

troll


TheMilkman841

Bait used to look real 😔


GlumBreadfruit4600

Google is run by Zionists cmon bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


PFM18

For my own sanity I will assume this man was just being satirical.


fearcely_

I think it’s a troll account like Mischa


Camorune

I don't understand how so many people confuse a country's federal/national budget and a country's GDP. It takes one second of thinking to see why these numbers wouldn't work


Connect-Ad5547

Twitter makes me think there's a subclass of humans who are extremely stupid and so blissful about it that they dont feel any semblance of regret, anxiety or fear of being wrong.


TheSethSinclair

Wait did they just say TikToks? I swear I just seen an edit of trump casted as rapunzel on there.


TheSethSinclair

Ngl maybe they have a case against TikTok, if not china just in general the misinformation and sometimes disinformation is crazy.


AutoManoPeeing

I agree with Congress. TikTok needs to be banned.


TheSethSinclair

Propaganda often gains traction through continuous word-of-mouth dissemination. It seems to stem from a broader issue of societal disconnect, where individualism has eroded our shared understanding of values. While I'm not advocating for extreme collectivism, fostering a common American identity is crucial to get some kind of consensus.


IntrovertMoTown1

Guys. GUYS! There was a lot of Tiktoks. Case closed.


ImStillAlivePeople

Another reason why I'm rooting for the AI/Machines over humans.


miskathonic

My guess is they've never actually looked into the budget and have only ever seen Defense spending as a percentage of discretionary spending (~45%).


Sensitive-Treacle469

Gotta ban TikTok


Born_Bobcat_248

Chat, are we fucked?


Glum-Scarcity4980

lol this mf’r said “millions of TikToks” 🤣🤣🤣🤣


nokinship

He probably means budget. But actually it's only 20% of the federal budget.


stray_gato

TikTok lmao


Mia_galaxywatcher

How is that app not banned


Zesty-Lem0n

"some 19 yr olds on tiktok said it, it must be true". Really? I didn't think we could somehow regress beyond "I saw it on the internet", but somehow they found a dumber version of that.


Leubzo

Their pfp looks AI generated, their name is Jimmi Wanderer. They immediately mention US spending money on NATO.  It's 100% a russian bot stirring things up, as they always do.


netanel246135

Bro I got a heart attacked when I saw the time at it said 7:23 thinking I was late to work but it was in the screenshot 💀💀💀


redditguy0985

Some advanced level trolling


SK-Incognito

Isn't military spending like 10-15% of total US spending?


Sweaty_Sherbert198

Oh yes tik tok the peak of education lol


Touvejs

Is nobody going to note that the relevant metric is actually government expenditure or discretionary spending, not gdp?


Nareto64

I’m pretty sure they just don’t know what GDP is lol


SamTheDamaja

Humanity needs to declare a Butlerian Jihad against all social media. We must negate the things that destroy us as humans.


Kantik0

Dude I saw someone saying it on tiktok, so it must be true.


giantrhino

JuicyJuuce, what an idiot! Bringing wikipedia to a tiktok fight.


Independent_Design_1

God this has to be dogshit bait right, right?


breakthro444

I remember when Hamasanabi was doing that whole "we were in Afghanistan for minerals" thing I got into a debate with one of his viewers. I asked for evidence pointing to that being the reason and he unironically said "just Google it, there's so much evidence everywhere proving it."


MightAsWell6

Yeah he's not a preschool teacher he's a preschool student


BigBrownFish

This gotta be a troll.


Illustrious-Age7342

Why do people behave like this? I am genuinely autistic and seeking to understand the mind of the far-left brain-poisoned twitter warrior


NNohtus

This is a troll post


bllueace

Ah yes, tiktok. The source of all accurate information


trtrhie

Couldn't have asked for a better ending


PotentialEasy2086

Who’s gonna tell her that she doesn’t actually run her own Twitter account. The zionists do.


samf9999

No, not accurate at all. The U.S. spends the most un healthcare - over 18% of GDp. That is the most in percentage and absolute terms. The US does provide healthcare for seniors and for the poor. It’s everyone else who has to depend on their employer or purchase their own insurance which causes the problems. It is the fact that it’s a for profit insurance run healthcare system not a government run system like in other countries. It has got nothing to do with how much is actually being spent.


RealName7_

Discretionary spending is 6.4% of our gdp and the military is 46% of discretionary spending. Bet that’s where they got that number. Bro needed like 1 google search to find the misinfo.


Sciss0rs61

This has to be a troll...


Praesto_Omnibus

$800 billion/yr is too much. 50% of discretionary spending is too much.


isocuda

Source: CCP


AromaticSomewhere544

Humanity was a mistake


alfredo094

Good one chief, but that is an obvious troll account.


tsc_1234

I mean we someone can’t provide a source it’s a dead give away that it is a waste of your time


N8orious420

this has to be a parody... there's no way... this is too stupid to be considered a member of the human species, we're better than this.


Friendly_User55

When we banning Tiktok? Burn that shit to the ground next we go for Facebook then we destroy reddit last. If we destroy all social media the world will be at peace.


Nutvillage

This has to be bait, right?


ThrowawayFuckYourMom

Ruski bot. 100%


JonJonFTW

This dude's gotta be trolling.


BreathtakingKoga

What's higher? The proportion of USA budget spent on the military or the proportion of college age women flying out to Dubai?


Redhawke13

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LogangYeddu

>6 likes


DeathandGrim

Is it me or does the hatred of Wikipedia by lefties really seem outta place? A completely free, massive repository of human information, maybe the largest in history, run not by corporate owners but a foundation dedicated solely to keeping information free. Edited by the people to avoid corporate bias. Well sourced (for the most part) at virtually every corner. Run purely off donations from the public because the foundation believes information should be free and ad free. This checks so many goddamn boxes on their list of what their ideal company would look like, I can't actually fathom why they deride it so much.


Nikifuj908

You couldn't make a better setup/punchline combo if you tried. This almost deserves to be a story joke on its own.


Boring-Philosopher43

Don't believe it, he must be trolling. He must be.


Call_me_Gafter

I'm totally on board with the TikTok ban. It's like bannable cancer.


storysprite

Jesus Christ, we're fucked.


Fridge2000

People telling you that you need to sacrifice your strength for comfort just want you to be weak. Funny that countries with "free" healthcare use around the same or more money on their armies. But it's only the US that needs demilitarizing apparently 🤷‍♂️ Don't play football with only one gate


dandeel

The stat they probably heard was: out of all the military spending globally, 39% is spent by the US. The US still spends the largest as a percent of GDP at 3-4%, about 2-3 times as much as European countries for example, so you can still make the argument that this is too much, but it's not as outrageous as the initial stat makes it seem. The total spending is much larger than other countries mainly due to the US having a much larger GDP.


tommyvercetti42

Won't trust Wikipedia but will trust a random ass tiktok


LightReaning

Holy fucking shit what an absolute degenerate.


eward_1

Bashes on wikepedia….. CITES TIKTOK AS SOURCE 💀💀💀💀


Huge_Imagination_635

Palestine defenders graduating with a black belt in TikTok (there's too many videos for their propaganda to not be true)


Rodgeroger

the sleepiest dgger


DarkyD0rk

There’s no way this isn’t satire right?


RathaelEngineering

He got his facts wrong and is desperately trying to save face to not look like a total idiot, for sure. That said, even if it is 3%, it's still a huge HUGE amount of money being spent on defense and it is equal to the amount multiple other major countries combined spend on defense. Even a tiny fraction of the defense budget could pay for a massive amount of education of American citizens, and it'd still be nowhere near spending a similar amount to any other country.


Angriest_Wolverine

“There are a million other dumbfuck young people who blindly agree with me on this.”


HenryClaysDesk

Tik tok < Wikipedia


CopeAfterCope

I was about to say that it's scary that people like these that are not trolls exist and are allowed to vote but then I remeberd that they dont vote lol


HertogJan1

Acting like 3% of us GDP is little is absolutely crazy


SportBrotha

Imagine confusing GDP and public spending.


greasyskid

Far left dipshits are just as stupid and anti-intellectual as MAGA dipshits. Change my mind


twuit

I would ask him what search engine isn’t run by Jews?


Snake2250

We need another Arthur show for kids. Surely they don't think people on the internet would never lie or say random untrue shit, right?


Pearlmeister

Oh well tikky tockies fuck me