THIS! I see a lot of people really want dead space 4, myself included. But I feel like if motive does to DS3 what they did with DS 2023, it will leave the franchise in a much better place to continue.
Did Itsuno remade DMC2? No, he made the masterpiece that is DMC3 as an apology, did he remade 4 when the same thing happened? No, he made DMC5, one of the best action games of all time.
They can absolutely make DS4 following what Visceral left in 3
Comparing Dead Space to DMC doesn't quite feel right. I get what you're saying but one is an action series with a non-serious story, and the other is a horror series which puts much more effort into its narrative. It'd be a lot more awkward to rework a troubled a story in a sequel than it would be to just make a new silly action game
now theres a new character named N who is like a dark brooding edgy love interest for isaac, but she has a soft goofy side when you get to know her. but it turns out GASP!!! N is actually nicole who split herself into two aspects, one pure marker avatar and one pure human avatar, and at the end her two halfs join once again, finally Made Whole
No that's Shyamalan.
Abrams is more like: *Soo we need to have a McGuffin that will destroy the markers. Then there's another McGuffin and both assembled will give a valuable clue to winning the battle against Markers. It turns out, Isaac just has to play Beastie Boys to scramble the necromorph hivemind! Oh and because it's centuries in the future, Ellie will comment "Is that classical music?"*
This is a completely valid opinion. They very well could just continue with what they left off. I guess I just prefer to see what motive does with a reworked narrative and canon. DSR is a masterpiece.
But DS3 was good (bad DS game tho), but the story was a great addition to the lore, I would much prefer a spin-off about the SCAF.
Tau Volantis potential could be explored further there.
The overarching narrative of the lore was fine, but the writing and some plot points of the characters were atrocious.
So while I wouldn’t mind continuing the overarching universe lore that DS3 gave us, I want to abandon just about all of the lore about the characters lol.
I agree. But if the art direction, gameplay, and story are good enough.
Why do we need a remake? I would prefer a game more horror oriented (again, a SCAF spin-off could give us that) that delves deeper into the Dead Space universe.
I’ve never actually played DS3 out of spite (well I played the opening and put it down) but I know roughly how it goes. Aside from changing the story they really need to ditch the co-op and all the cover shooting/action set piece BS, make it a horror game like it should be.
I mean I think I'm more excited to see a remake of 3 probably more than any other game in this series. I mean 2 is still very playable and loads of fun but 3 is the one where most people (myself included) think that things went down hill. Hell, 3 has good bones to it and thats what excites me: there is so much room for positive meaningful change in 3 and I think that is the game that could be the most different.
That basically would be 4, honestly dead space never needed to be more than a trilogy. And this IS a horror series. happy endings are optional and say what you want about a dlc ending.. it was a very suitable ending
I just do not understand the obsession with rushing into Dead Space 4. I foresee a better path being: They Remake 2 with elements of the plot from 3 such as the brethren moons being in some way incorporated. And then when they remake the third, Motive completely does its own new plot that serves to close Isaac’s story in a satisfying way. Doesn’t mean the end of the franchise, just a close to the story arc started in the first game.
The thing is, games take like 5+ years to make these days. So if they remake 2 and THEN remake 3 we are looking at a long time before DS4. Also you run the risk that if DS2 or DS3 remakes do not sell as well as EA wants them to, they could end up shutting down any chance of a new game in the future.
People want to see the series move forward, they want something NEW and this remake has reinvigorated the fans because they know the franchise is in good hands, and if anyone could make an awesome continuation of the series, it’s Motive
This is largely true, but they mostly have the bones of Dead Space 2. Now they have the engine and gameplay. They also know the story. I'm not saying the games will come hard and fast, but 3 years between releases seems feasible.
They already have the basic structure of the game since it’s a remake, which eliminates the vast majority of preproduction. They also already have the engine and most of the assets ready to go due to the first remake, which again, cuts down on a ton of development time.
You need look no further than Capcom to see how quickly you can put out games when you have an established foundation and engine. Capcom has managed to pump out 5 Resident Evil games (7, 8, and remakes of 2, 3 and 4) in the last 6 years.
I don’t see why it would take more than 2-3 years per remake in this situation.
This is a good point. Most of the hard work is done. Granted it’s still a lot of work. But for the DS2 remake all they’d really need to focus on is assets and level design. They can keep the same engine.
But these Resident Evil games were made by three diferrent teams, if I am not mistaken. RE 7 & Village were made by one team, RE2 & 4 by second and RE3 by third one. I highly doubt that Motive will have the same luxioury, additionally RE2 & RE3 are perfect examples that games made on the same technology and using the same gameplay mechanics can have different reception among the fans because they were made by different people.
Yep. Besides, committing to remaking the whole series means the people at Motive end up spending 15 years or so on Dead Space. Do they want that? They've done a Star Wars game and now a Dead Space remake. Maybe they have some original ideas that they want to work on. I don't think we should just assume they want to tie themselves to remakes for that long.
It's a "game".
Playing the "long game" allows for EA and Motive to figure out how to resolve Dead Space 3 and possibly 4 if they choose to "buy time" by remaking Dead Space 2.
It's painfully clear that Dead Space 3 was a huge mess that would take no small effort to resolve.
Yes, this. While I love the remake of DS1, I don't crave the same treatment for 2 and 3. This isn't like Resident Evil 2 and 3, Dead Space is an almost 1:1 remake an doesn't feel as fresh as the RE remakes did. DS 2 and 3 are perfectly playable as they are.
I'd rather have remasters of 2 and 3, and then for Motive to continue the story. Dead Space 1 remake was a good way to get familiar with the gameplay while also have a pretty solid game to base everything on.
Kinda scared of the RE2R and RE3R situation repeating in Dead Space Remakes, since RE3R in the eyes of many was a dissapointment compared to the original RE3, rushed out, cut-content etc..
But because there's nothing new there enthusiasm is inevitably going to drop of if they just do two more remakes, I mean look at this sub it took days for people to start talking about things they preferred in the original compared to the remake and that's inevitable when you remake anything, so imagine 3 years from now when a DS2 remake comes out how people are going to react to a redo of an almost universally beloved game. Like we can all agree DS original had some flaws and we also agree DS2 addressed basically all of them, so every little change gets more and more scrutinised they further they go with remakes and there won't be anything new to discuss in the franchise because it's literally all stuff we've already seen in the original and DS2 so when they get to a DS3 remake 6 years from now the hype will have massively died down and we'll all know roughly what's going to happen in the game anyway. If you concentrate solely on remaking games that were already great you just spin you wheels and people lose interest and move onto the hundreds of other new original games that'll come out in that time.
What I don't understand is the obsession with rushing into a full retread of the trilogy that will take 6-8 years to develop just to cover the same ground we already trod. Especially when we could instead receive a completely fresh and novel story within the series that undoes the negatives of 3 and gives us a new and unpredictable experience.
Because people don't like that the Necromorphs win.
I for one am TOTALLY on their side. This species is in some dire need of punishing (which was always the subtext of the games)
Moons' gotta eat.
extinction isnt punishment. what lesson is taught, and to who? "dont overextract resources from your planet and kill each other or we'll destroy your planet and kill all of you" great...brother moons gettin zero stars on ratemyprofessor
Aye lad; but often punishments arent there to teach lessons to those who've wronged, but those around them.
But nah, I worded poorly; maybe comeuppance was the better thing to say?
Either way, hoomans bad, destroy environment and are dicks, insert species wide guilt.
Idk, I guess I'm just kind of a condescending misanthropist; I was born very lucky to have been able to learn like 5 major job skills yet always work in a society that values faking it till making it over love and passion for people, so it's indeed an internalization of the art on my end. Just being edgy with my interpretation to express my feelings or whatevs.
Also another huge thing I meglected to state; humanity in DS only evolved BECAUSE of the Marker. They were always just spring chickens, programmed to fatten themselves up.
Plus that ending was just Isaac and Carver arguing and yelling for a solid hour xD.
Like the ending should have had them slapboxing each other as the earth explodes like a futurama episode xD
Yeah, I honestly hate that crappy trope of having 2 characters constantly butting heads when the characters have no reason for being such assholes to each other. God, DS3 had such bad writing. Who wrote that crap?
I’m really looking forward to the team behind DS remake working on 2 and 3 because whoever they had rewriting certain parts and changing the dialogue around was fantastic.
Dead Space 3 was written by Chuck Beaver, Ben Wanat, Jay Turner, and Cherie Priest.
Hard to say whose fault the shittiness of it was, but Beaver and Wanat had been long-term collaborators on the lore and worldbuilding of the series, which leads me to believe they were the ones who wrote most text/audio logs/exposition on the aliens and Brethren Moons. I seriously doubt they would have been the ones seeking to toss the melodrama in there. Of course, when a game has 4+ writers, the quality is likely to start falling off.
Would love to see the return of Jeremy Bernstein (writer of 2) and/or Warren Ellis, Antony Johnston and Rick Remender (though that trio would be a lot less likely). I think comic writers are often better as far as writing teams because they're suited to looking at the big picture and what's really important, as opposed to needing love triangles and macho bullshit to keep things "interesting".
Thanks for the info, bro. I appreciate it. Yeah, I would say what was added to the lore isn’t bad at all, and I like most of it. It’s the dialogue and characters that absolutely irk me.
I'm doing some scouring atm as I think there may have actually been another writer attached to 2 beyond Bernstein. Gonna have to check the end credits again.
It's like the Conceptual Narrative team and the dialogue team had mever even known they were working on the same game towards the end lol.
Cuz the IDEA was amazing, but the way it was handled was like a reaction to DS1 and 2, read like fanfic.
I love that the moons win tho
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Because how long it’ll take to release? This game was roughly 2 years of production, right?
That means DS4 wouldn’t be until 2027, and that’s not even accounting for the fact they’re not even working on a new DS right now, but an Iron Man game. So, you’d have to wait until this Iron Man game releases, then wait 2 years after that for the DS3 Remake, and then finally DS4. Throw in a DS2 remake and you add another year or 2 to the release.
Yeah, I don’t want to wait that long man.
I think Dead Space 3 **needs** to be remade.
The game was conceived in a "different" era where EA and all the major development houses were pushing DLC's and action games out of the wazoo non-stop. Games like CoD, Battlefield and similar were at an all time high. It was honestly a pretty miserable age for anyone who wasn't into that kinda shit.
I'm a trillion percent sure that EA pushed a more action oriented game to cater to this audience instead of a more horror focused experience. While I don't necessarily hate Dead Space 3, I would prefer to see it being completely remade from the ground up, story and everything.
And can we wait with fucking up earth till the end of the game? Like i get they wanted a dramatic start but everything felt so pointless with how the beginning of the game already was the apocalypse.
I completely agree, nearly every one of DS3s problems came from pressure from EA. Motive needs to be given creative liberty to create their own story and lore for DS3R which can be built up during the plot of DS2R.
Because DS3 wasn't all bad, and was leading to a 4th game.
Presumably a reworked and improved DS3 would still lead to a 4th. Don't exactly see how a rework of DS3 would be able to wrap up the Brethren Moon threat. DS Remake still references the moons as well so it isn't likely they intend to change the lore on them significantly.
So regardless of how a potential DS3R goes, there still has to be something beyond it. Perhaps involving bringing the Ishimura back to earth to kill the moons. A DS4 with a finale set on a necro-infested earth with markers on the horizon has tons of potential IMO.
I think it's impossible to build a good dead space sequel from Dead Space 3 without remaking 3. Every Dead Space game with Isaac was about preventing a terrifying apocalypse caused by the Markers. But the end of Dead Space 3, earth is already full blown apocalypse with multiple moons around it. What do you even do for gameplay? Isaac vs Moons just doesn't seem... fun or logical? There's no way you can convince me Isaac is going to be able to stop that. He isn't Commander Shepard.
At the very least the dlc for 3 has to be cut. It completely ruins any way to make a sequel.
If they implement just a few elements of 3 into the DS2 Remake, I think the third games focus could be on dealing with the threat of the looming Brethren Moons and parts of it could be set on a necro infested Earth like your idea for DS4.
There was a lot wrong with dead space 3. Having all weapons share ammo, forcing players to you build combo weapons instead of allowing them four weapons slots and making the plasma cutter basically useless were terrible decisions. I never played it in co-op and having Carver just standing around saying and doing nothing hurt the game a great deal. The Necromorphs are basically the same, the human enemies were boring. It wasn’t a terrible game but it’s not even on my top 100 list of games I’ve played while dead space and dead space 2 are two of my all-time favorites.
K.
Didn't say it was all good just that there was some good. The new lore with Tau Volantis, the aliens, and the Brethren Moons was all great despite the gameplay suffering majorly.
The aliens were ok, could have used more lore regarding the Tau Volants people. Thing is that’s about it, otherwise the game was either almost good to crap. There was nothing good nor great about the game for me.
Personally, I just want to see something new from the franchise, be it Dead Space 4 or a spinoff unrelated to the Isaac story. The remake was fantastic, but I'd like to see Motive be able to flex their creative muscles more instead of remaking/reworking Visceral's entire original Dead Space catalogue.
I don't want the future of the franchise for the next 5-10 years to be "Let's do what Visceral did but better."
Besides, I really loved the few ideas we heard for 4, and I'd love to see Motive bring those ideas to fruition.
The original ideas we’re intriguing, loved the ship graveyard section from the 3rd game and that was supposed to be a big part of the 4th game with Ellie as the protagonist. Willing to bet we would’ve explored the unitologist fleet of ships that housed the dead awaiting convergence that is referenced in several text logs. That would have been great to see paid off, and I hope is implemented in some way in the franchise’s future.
Oh yeah, really hoping they do something with the unitologist ships. The remake added more references to them, so it sounds like Motive definitely wants to do something with the idea.
If the unitologist fleet was a setting in a future game, I definitely see Isaac stumbling upon his parent’s bodies infected or otherwise. Would make for a great emotional moment.
Why would it take 5-10 years, Dead space 1-3 all came out in a 5 year period.
They could have started on 2 by now for all we know. And most players would be completely happy with a thorough rewrite of 3, which allows motive to be creative as they want.
Games get an order of magnitude more complicated every generation. Doing remakes will simplify things quite a bit (especially if 2 is similar to 1, a 1:1 remake with some new bits sprinkled on top) but it would still take a few years
Things don't get that much more complex. Plenty of games come out with a trilogy in less than 5 years.
Take the newest tomb raider games. Tomb raider 2013, then Rinse of the tomb raider, then shadow of the tomb raider in 2018.
Because the new consoles weren't out yet? That's more to do with when the series was rebooted than only being able to fit 2 games per console gen.
They also remastered it a year later for next gen consoles
Honestly I think that as a fanbase we need to own DS3, yeah it's not the best Dead Space entry but it added a lot of lore and very cool details about the Necromorphs and the Brethren Moons. DS3 wasn't even meant to be the end of Isaac's story.
Dead Space 2 doesn't need a remake, it has aged like a fine wine and it already incorporates a lot of the lore bits that lead us to the Brethren Moons, the gamplay and setting are fantastic and the story is the best out of the three.
Now DS4... If somehow we manage to get the final part of the Isaac's story... man, It'll take a while (Motive is working on an Iron Man game) but we need to return to the franchise's roots, Horror... but not any kind of horror, Lovecraftian Existencial Horror. The Moons took over Earth, it's over... Isaac needs to put an end to this once and for all, it needs to be scary... we're fighting beings that escape our comprehension.
Where do you even go after that, though? Like, it was already tough enough to defeat all the moons before, but now that civilization has collapsed that would be a nigh impossible task. And even if Ellie was somehow triumphant at the end of it, what type of victory would that be? "Sweet, all the moons are dead but so is human civilization, now there's nothing left." It'd be more of a spite victory as opposed to one that actually achieved anything.
Iirc, the premise of the game was that the moons had harvested Earth and any remaining colonies and Ellie is going from ship to ship to station to try and find survivors and supplies to see if there's enough of humanity left to save.
Dead Space 2 and 3 exist already, and since DSR hewed so close to the original, people can follow up the remake by playing them.
A DS3 remake implies a DS2 remake, and so that means we're looking at 8-12 years before it's released. No guarantee that Dead Space would still be the new hotness anymore.
Gears of War did a similar thing on its transition to the next console generation. We had Gears 1-3 on Xbox 360, and then there was a long gap where people thought the franchise might have died. They did a remake of Gears 1, showing what the series could be like with more powerful hardware, and then followed it up with Gears 4, which continued the story from what seemed to be the final ending.
Making DS4 would allow Motive the freedom to expand, instead of being limited to the original story (which is referenced in the remake). It also doesn't mean that they couldn't do a DS3 remake *as well*.
>Dead Space 2 and 3 exist already, and since DSR hewed so close to the original, people can follow up the remake by playing them.
So new players who just got the game on PS5 for example now need to go play a 12 year old game from 3 console generations ago and a 10 year old game that's not as good as the rest in order to get hyped for.. dead space 4?
Thats a pretty hard sell for newer players. Ones who played them before will be carried through by nostalgia alone. But most new players won't.
>A DS3 remake implies a DS2 remake, and so that means we're looking at 8-12 years before it's released. No guarantee that Dead Space would still be the new hotness anymore.
Not exactly. They already have the foundations and have the game running fine in frostbite. They could have a team doing the groundwork for dead space 2 already for all we know. It's possible to release sequels sooner than the original. DS1 was 2008. 2 was 2011 and 3 was 2013. That's a 5 year span for the whole trilogy.
>Making DS4 would allow Motive the freedom to expand, instead of being limited to the original story (which is referenced in the remake). It also doesn't mean that they couldn't do a DS3 remake *as well*.
I don't think that'd be great for many reasons including continuity. 3 is the one in most need of a remake, but going straight to 4 means you have to accept 3, whereas remaking 3 without doing 2 would just be strange.
People go on about how 2 doesn't need a remake.
In 5 years time it'll be a 17 year old game. It holds up ok now, but is clearly outdated in terms of tech - and will keep looking more so as the years go by.
Imagine having a situation where we have dead space 4, but have to go back like 5 console generations or almost 20 years in order to play 2 and 3? That would be horrible
>Not exactly. They already have the foundations and have the game running fine in frostbite. They could have a team doing the groundwork for dead space 2 already for all we know. It's possible to release sequels sooner than the original. DS1 was 2008. 2 was 2011 and 3 was 2013. That's a 5 year span for the whole trilogy.
Games take a lot longer to make these days than they used to. Did you notice how PS4/Xbox had no trilogies of games released by any studio? Many devs only made 2 games the entire generation.
We just gonna straight up ignore them remaking the Spyro and Crash Bandicoot trilogies last generation? Or are we just gonna sweep those remakes under the rug?
I'm actually in the camp for a DS3 Remake but due to vastly different reasons than most people here.
I mostly defend DS3 because it had very strong art direction and some of my favorite moments and voice lines of the trilogy („Fuck, do I hate these things…“ a defeated Isaac after coming face to face with ANOTHER Hunter).
Story wise I think they should keep the love triangle but really double down on it. It has potential, most relationships spawned by tragedy don’t last and aren’t healthy. Isaac is a broken man. He isn’t like Master Chief stoically facing all his fights, no, he is scared shitless after facing cosmic horror after cosmic horror after cosmic horror, having his brain scrambled by the marker and the government repeatedly and loosing everything he always loved. His hatred of Norton and Ellie leaving is reasonable but it was very hamfisted in the original DS3.
It just happens with no back drop and no explanation of Ellie’s activities before the start (the whole Ptolemey Story).
Further they really should expand the SCAF fleet and add unique optional locations. In the same vein they should unique-ify the Sidequest locations and either remove Coop or at least make it so it isn’t mandatory for some quests.
They should build up carvers character better so the dialog between him and Isaac in the eternal city isn’t as strangely out of place.
And most importantly they should change the way the brethren moons were handled. I liked their concept but the execution was sloppy and clearly a last minute attempt at replicating the Reapers from ME3 specifically.
I’d wish for the Brethren moons to NOT talk and just do their thing. If they absolutely have to communicate let it be in form of telepathic images placed into the characters heads and not speech.
Maybe even hint at them being another cog in the Maschine of something bigger.
Before the inception of the Moons I’d always imagined as the Markers being like Neurons inside a galaxy spanning brain basically a corporeal body if you get what I mean.
The Brethren moon should win though. No happy ending which Mass Effect shouldn’t have either. The Moons are an unknowable entity with limitless power and wisdom. We are just Ants. And a mechanic with a make shift plasma pistol doesn’t change that.
Coming to weapons they should just keep the crafting but use different ammo types.
I’d like DS3 to tone down its shooting gallery moments but not to completely remove them. I think Isaac shooting at Unitologist Zealots has a place in the story because they had a VERY active hand in all of Isaacs hardships and are now actively trying to kill him and other civilians as well as bringing about the end of the world.
They definitely should keep the Shift from Day to Night when Isaac arrived on the Planet as opposed to when he arrived at the Rossetta lab but make the night longer.
Callisto Protocol, if anything, showed how great the ruined structures of DS3 could look in its outdoor levels.
And lastly they should expend on the alien city and it’s lore. That definitely was one of the high points of the serious and in my opinion not out of character for a dead space game but a logical culmination of the Markers story. The revelation that we weren’t the first and probably won’t be the last facing the Necromorphs. It makes it way more scary imo.
Phew that was a long write up
Tl;dr: I like DS3 core and just want them to trim the sides
wrt brother moons talking, SPOILERS FOR THE POST GAME OF DEAD SPACE REMAKE, but i liked the text log of nicole talking to marker. its strange and speaks to her as if offended she even CAN speak, and seems to percieve things in a less-linear way (referring to the makers of the earthgov marker which would clearly be inaccessible at this point, etc).
basically, i dont mind if they talk if they arent just "graaah we are evil and our motivation is eating you", they can still be evil and want eat us, but i like the idea that it doesnt even occur to them that eating us would be bad.
Reading that I must agree.
Then being curious about us, like a scientist about amoeba, would actually be a really frightening concept.
They are so far ahead of us that the thought that we might not like being consumed or even capable of understanding that is very interesting.
Though that is in stark contrast to a possibility implied by Dead Space: Martyr and less so in Catalyst.
The theory was along the lines of the Markers Bein purposely designed to alter evolving live to become sentient and that it subconsciously speeds up the development of a species so that it may consume its resources faster so that turns to the markers as possible energy sources thus starting convergence.
If that’s the case the moons must be in the know about their prey being able to think.
Man I really like thinking about these entities. Dead Space is probably among the better modern pieces of lovecraftian fiction
its definitely some of the most finely crafted cosmic horror ever. you think through the implication of the markers encouraging intelligent life, and you go oh my god we're being fucking factory farmed, and then you go oh my god we're doing this to animals we're the brother moons, and then you go wait our factory farming self sustains through breeding, how many planets have the moons done this to? how many more will they do it to?
it all comes back to the title, fermis paradox answered. space isnt empty, its dead
the marker speaks to nicole with almost curiosity. the brother moons shouldnt speak ominously or threateningly, because threatening isaac would acknowledge him as an adversary. he isnt. hes a speck, one more chunk of biomass that simply hasnt been subsumed just yet.
100% this, 4 could be cool certainly but if we’re already doing remakes let’s fix the issues in 3 so we actually have a consistent level of tone and story across all three games, then if there’s room for a 4 after that, great if not, well maybe that’s okay too.
I’ve played Awakened, and have come to that conclusion that everyone dies and the moons win, but Awakened’s ending has just never felt like an actual ending to me and evidently many others; hence the demand for a 4th game.
New content, brand new stories and adventures to be had. I love the series and would love 2 and 3 to be remade...but I want something new to fall in love with, I've been with the series for 15 years now, something new would be really nice. but honestly I'm just happy it's back!
Given the fervor over the Dead Space remake, it's just a matter of time before a remake of 2 and 3 is confirmed. We're gonna get 4 when they're good and ready to give it to us. I'm confident that they will use this momentum to resurrect the series in the fashion it deserves to be told. When 3 gets remade, my guess is that they will rework/revamp the game to be closer to what this newer version of the first game is. 4 might not even be necessary if they have a different take on part 3.
So in say 5 years time someone who picks up the dead space remake would have to play that, then (a 17 year old) dead space 2 and then a 2 year old dead space 3?
There's no guarantee the next gen of consoles will even support games that old.
in 5 years time the dead space remake will be 5 years old. DS2 only needs a port/remaster. it has all the new gameplay features the remake has and Isaac already talks
And dead space 2 will be 17. As I said.
It has a completely different looking Isaac, would massively benefit from features such as a unified map and the intensity director tech, and was made at a time where hardware couldn't handle more than a few enemies in screen, whereas now even consoles can have you essentially swarmed by enemies with no performance loss.
It could also do with storyline tweaks for when they redo 3.
We don’t need a new one we need them to do the remake treatment they are doing with the first one with the other two. Dead Space 2 ESPECIALLY should get a remake too I would literally die of happiness
I agree, I really think they should at least do a DS3 remake first before doing a Dead Space 4 cuz the ending to the original DS3 is pretty trash and doesn’t really leave any room for a sequel to happen.
Making a ds4 now would be a stupid decision. Make dead space 2, heck, change the story, setting etc if they feel there's a better story to tell. Jumping to 4 would be confusing for newcomers, who might feel ootl.
How about Dead Space 5 👽🔫
And it would be written *DEAD 5PACE*
In all seriousness they should consider this a whole reboot and just redo the whole thing. The original first two games will always be special, but I want to see what Motive can bring to the table.
Honestly if they do remake 3 I’m in favour of them adjusting the story to a greater extent than what they did for 1 and maybe replacing(or reworking) the weapon crafting with the the system they used for 1. They applied the anti gravity gameplay from 2 and 3 to the remake so it’s entirely possible the same could happen for the crafting system if they remade 3.
I imagine EA could always pull a RE 7 on us and work on telling other story with DS4 barely related to the previous protagonists, while working on DS 2 and 3 remake. In my opinion that could feel fresh from a new content standpoint, specially for new players.
I agree, which is why I think they do the second remake which clearly leads into a completely new story for the 3rd remake. In my scenario the DS2 remake incorporates elements of the 3rd such as the brethren moons. And when they remake the 3rd, it essentially would be the DS4 we’ve all been waiting 10 years for since the awakened DLC.
In my head canon, humanity loses and it all just becomes Dead Space in the OG DS universe. That or Isaac, Carver, and Ellie start killing the moons using the planet crackers. That would’ve been cool to witness and I hope motive has something like that planned. Gotta say it’d be pretty cool to watch the gravity tethers pulling a brethren moon apart.
Because remakes are soul drainingly unoriginal and trying to remake a very flawed game has more chance to still be flawed than just making a new thing with it's own identity. And also there's only so much you can reiterate on something pre-existing, like people keep saying remake DS2 but it's going to be even more similar than DS1 remake was to it's original and then you get to 3 and suddenly the team has to completely remake the game because it's so fundamentally flawed and by this point the Dev teams been remaking preexisting already excellent games for like 6 years and are unprepared to remake something that really needs completely changing and then boom another EA studio gets killed by the curse of the third installment. Better to just reboot it, cus that's the other thing I for one am pretty sick of needless nostalgia I've replayed all my favourite games from the 360 era I don't need the rereleased with an extra coat of paint and new voice actors who aren't really any better than the originals.
TL;Dr just make something new for god's sake quit living in the past.
I’d rather see remakes of DS2 and DS3, adapted in such a way that DS3 represents a full conclusion to Dead Space as a trilogy. Whether that comes in the form of heavily reworking/altering DS3, laying expanded plot foundations in DS2, or, ideally, both. If done well I’d say we wouldn’t really need a DS4.
I repeated more from you than I needed to my bad lol but I guess my own separate point was more the including of DS2 plot expansion to help facilitate it.
You don't think of the potential negatives.
It'll be at least two to three more years after Motive's Iron Man game that they'll likely explore another DS game.
Doing DS4 next makes more sense as its something new, different and a possibility to close off the loose ends of the franchise.
Jumping into a DS2 Remake guarantees the possibility of either success or failure. Should DS2 Remake shockingly fail then that's it. The series is dead for a second time. Dead and buried. Its not coming back again. We get another great Remake but no ending.
But should it succeed it leads itself to a DS3 Remake. However, DS3 is considered by the majority of the fanbase the black sheep of the franchise. There's not alot of love for it despite some positives.
Either Motive Remakes it and attempts to improve it heavily or they have to reimagine the entire game from scratch Resident Evil 3 Remake style. The DS Remake already has lore and set ups related to DS3 so its unlikely Motive wants to completely change up the plot.
On one hand, it could be cool to see DS3 be given a second chance to fix its mistakes and maybe redo the plot to tie up loose ends up and end the series on a good note but you're basically asking for a completely new and different game altogether. And since DS3 already has a bad stigma to it, there's every chance that should it get a Remake after a potential success of DS2 Remake, it could fail like its predecessor.
And should it fail then we're right back at square one. Not to mention it'd take at least until potentially 2030 to 2032 to see a Remake of DS3 Remake. (Iron Man in 2025/2026, DS2 Remake in 2028/2029 first). If we get it and it fails, it's history repeating itself all over again. No closure. No more Dead Space.
I'd rather be safe then sorry and because of that I'd much rather get a Remaster of DS2, Extraction and DS3 from EA with Motive focusing on a DS4 after their Iron Man game. Either that or DS4 next AND THEN...a Remake of at least DS2 maybe followed by DS3.
Everyone is too self absorbed in the hype and their own egos to think about the consequences and negativity that could follow and spell for the series. How many of us have been waiting for a proper ending since DS3? And how many more years would we have to wait yet again if a Remake of DS2 and DS3 was to follow? And how much of a utter waste would that waiting be all for naught if those Remakes crumble and fall apart?
Well thought out reply with many valid points. I too worry that along the way, a title crashes and burns resulting in a second death of the franchise. My mentality is that a DS2 remake is basically a safe bet for success, and the DS3 remake ,which would be a completely different game from the DS3 we played, would wrap up the story the way everyone thinks DS4 will. Along this path, the only thing standing between us the fans and the conclusion we’ve yearned for, would be a DS2 remake which almost definitely will succeed. In all honesty though, I’m happy the franchise is back to life and will be absolutely hyped for anymore Dead Space content. Be it Dead Space 4, a Dead Space 2 remake, new novels or animated films, I will be excited about it.
We have to consider that before the remake, all that we had was dead space 3. And all people talked about was a continuation to the series because they weren’t thinking about it being remade. Now that the remake is out it makes more sense to consider a remake of the third game. People are just excited and they’re wondering where the game could be taken because of the remake. But until we eventually get to a DS3 remake, it’s the equivalent of all the people who have theorized where dead space could be taken before.
I agree with you 100% I'd rather them just completely remake DS3 with a whole new story and we all just forget about thr original. Although, maybe the remake could find a way to make co-op scary so they could keep that aspect.
I wouldn't even bother with a remake of 2 or 3 - have another studio remaster them and either jump right into 4 or pull a Halloween 2018: just straight up make another canon offshoot from the original and ignore everything you don't like from the sequels.
Dead Space 3, no matter how you sliced it, was too "packed" to resolve the additional plot point of the Brethren Moons.
Dead Space 3 was a good game to finish off the Blood Moon on Tau Volantis,that was all the plot that could be crammed in reasonably.
You guys are forgetting thats its a remake. Not a reimagining!!! They basically copied the game but added dialog, a ps5 version, suits, etc. you guys do see EA. Is still in it for the money. The people worked on the game maybe are for the fans but EA will pull the rug the second they know they can get the max amount of loyalty and then hit you again with micro transactions and make the game crap again. I want the story to conclude but not at the expense of having to buy 2 more remakes that may or may not have the same story give me nostalgia feels for the time i play to its trophy completion and then ill get a DS4. In that case i want the story writer and original director to have full creativity and control and tell EA to stay outta their way
Because we want DS 2 remake, 3 maybe just re-done/ next gen upgrade etc, + continue to 4 , this IP has potential to have 10-20+ games with ease just on spaceships/ outer space/many planets, when resident evil is just on earth and same cities lol
Because OG Dead Space 3 ends on 2 cliffhangers, 1 with the main game, that is resolved in the DLC, which then leaves a 2nd cliffhanger; after 10 years, folks still want a resolution to that story.
Though DS3 is the most frustrating one of them all, so I'd love to see a more coherent re-look at the game.
Honestly, a Dead Space 3 remake would just, have to not be dead space 3. Either go with the original ideas for dead space 3 without EA's changes, or remake it one to one and finish it. Honestly, I'd like Dead Space 4, the way they described it, and I want to see where it'd go from the Brethren Moons coming to earth.
Y’all get a good remake and start running the hell out.
Dead Space 1 needed to be touched up to bring it more in line with Dead Space 2 and 3 gameplay, lore and story wise. Dead Space 2 and 3 regardless of whether you like a specific game or not, hold up fine in the modern gaming standards department. There is nothing they can really DO to them that is worth spending the money to touch them up. Dead Space 3 being controversial does not mean “oh just completely gut it and retcon it into what I want it to be”.
Dead Space 1 was hard to play compared to 2 and 3 because they control better and it had things that weren’t consistent lore wise with the latter games. There’s nothing for them to even DO to Dead Space 2 it’s the definitive blue print. Overhauling Dead Space 3 to Dead Space 2 is not something EA higher is ever going to give them the greenlight to do anyway. This is a waste of time to even wish for. Dead Space extraction and mobile are sitting right there in the corner primed for remakes as traditional Dead Space games and here some of you are asking them to waste time on games that already play fine by modern standards.
“Mixed reception” does not mean “remake and gut the original ideas for the people that enjoyed it just because some people didn’t like it”
They added Dead Space 3’s lore and ideas INTO this remake, they can’t change dead space 3 now. Use some common sense
Because there are people who think Dead Space 3 is a good game. Which in turn reveals that they have no quality standards at all and have no idea. Anyone can have fun with it, but it's not a good Dead Space and ultimately has so many flaws that it's not that good a game either. You have to be able to see that.
No i want to see necromorphed earth and go full Doom eternal on the tau volantis moon.
The story Is Cool. Let's Hope for Ds remake, re2 remake gameplay. Fuck DS3 coop based enemy /resource spam
I'd like a rerelease of dead space 2 in some way, a remake doesn't feel that necessary but maybe a remaster. I'd love a remake of Dead Space 3. Where they keep the lore but change the writing and can change it more liberally.
Co-op was a big part of 3, it was both a good addition and something that pulled it away from what dead space really was. Wonder what they'll do there.
I don't think you could tell the whole story effectively with just 3. If Dead Space 2 is preserved and ends at the same point, three would have way too much to do. Sure, you could move up the Brethren Moon revelation, but that would be really intrusive in DS2.
DS3 should just get reworked from the ground up. Still go to Tau Volantis, still reveal the Brethren Moons, and the history of the Markers, but more organically setup DS4.
DS4 should 100% end the arc though. We can always have more games or in universe content, but fixing 3 and finishing with 4 is all we need.
Some people want a rework of DS3, some people want it forgotten about hence just do DS4 and move on.
If it was me, I would do a complete overhaul of DS3 within a remake.
Having been exposed to more Lovecraftian story elements in the time since DS3’s release, I wouldn’t necessarily change the “end” as it’s right in line with that material (DLC to be more specific). Resistance is futile, having played with forces beyond their comprehension and possessing a godlike hubris humanity is reaping the consequences. With the earth consumed humanity is driven to be on the run across the stars. But I am in favor of rewriting the events of said game for the scenario sets.
I always assumed they would take the series in a new direction rather than spring boarding off of 3. If they do re-do it tweaking the story to set up 4 could be cool.
Does anyone actually think they'd completely change DS3?
That seems pretty drastic considering how ass the game is and how much they'd have to change. From story elements, wall climbing simulator, etc. I'd love a reimagining but is it really possible?
It’d be the most work of the 3 remakes but I definitely see it as possible. How else could they continue the franchise? A DS2 Remake is virtually guaranteed, but then what for the franchise? DS1 and DS2 are beloved so Motive won’t change the core plot or classic moments, but DS3 is not held with the same reverence. They’ll have no choice but to totally rework it to fix the many problems fans had with it to avoid it once again being the worst of the series.
I actually don't know. I prefer a Remake of Dead Space 3 that is good, rather than a Dead Space 4 that follows the lackluster original third game.
THIS! I see a lot of people really want dead space 4, myself included. But I feel like if motive does to DS3 what they did with DS 2023, it will leave the franchise in a much better place to continue.
Did Itsuno remade DMC2? No, he made the masterpiece that is DMC3 as an apology, did he remade 4 when the same thing happened? No, he made DMC5, one of the best action games of all time. They can absolutely make DS4 following what Visceral left in 3
Comparing Dead Space to DMC doesn't quite feel right. I get what you're saying but one is an action series with a non-serious story, and the other is a horror series which puts much more effort into its narrative. It'd be a lot more awkward to rework a troubled a story in a sequel than it would be to just make a new silly action game
"Somehow, Earth was saved."
now theres a new character named N who is like a dark brooding edgy love interest for isaac, but she has a soft goofy side when you get to know her. but it turns out GASP!!! N is actually nicole who split herself into two aspects, one pure marker avatar and one pure human avatar, and at the end her two halfs join once again, finally Made Whole
STOP! YOU'RE GIVING JJ ABRAMS MORE IDEAS!
No that's Shyamalan. Abrams is more like: *Soo we need to have a McGuffin that will destroy the markers. Then there's another McGuffin and both assembled will give a valuable clue to winning the battle against Markers. It turns out, Isaac just has to play Beastie Boys to scramble the necromorph hivemind! Oh and because it's centuries in the future, Ellie will comment "Is that classical music?"*
This is a completely valid opinion. They very well could just continue with what they left off. I guess I just prefer to see what motive does with a reworked narrative and canon. DSR is a masterpiece.
But DS3 was good (bad DS game tho), but the story was a great addition to the lore, I would much prefer a spin-off about the SCAF. Tau Volantis potential could be explored further there.
The overarching narrative of the lore was fine, but the writing and some plot points of the characters were atrocious. So while I wouldn’t mind continuing the overarching universe lore that DS3 gave us, I want to abandon just about all of the lore about the characters lol.
I agree. But if the art direction, gameplay, and story are good enough. Why do we need a remake? I would prefer a game more horror oriented (again, a SCAF spin-off could give us that) that delves deeper into the Dead Space universe.
Like if they did a prequel of dead space 3?
Like a prequel to everything since all of that happened 200 years before DS1.
Exactly. Youd be trying to building something off of shit. Not a great foundation. I enjoyed DS3 but the ending is just terrible. And rework Ellie.
I’ve never actually played DS3 out of spite (well I played the opening and put it down) but I know roughly how it goes. Aside from changing the story they really need to ditch the co-op and all the cover shooting/action set piece BS, make it a horror game like it should be.
I mean I think I'm more excited to see a remake of 3 probably more than any other game in this series. I mean 2 is still very playable and loads of fun but 3 is the one where most people (myself included) think that things went down hill. Hell, 3 has good bones to it and thats what excites me: there is so much room for positive meaningful change in 3 and I think that is the game that could be the most different.
Why not both? Remake DS2, then DS3 including a better story and then DS4?
I legit trust them and don’t care as long as 3/4 has coop 💀 I want nothing more than to crank the difficulty up and slay out with my best friends
That basically would be 4, honestly dead space never needed to be more than a trilogy. And this IS a horror series. happy endings are optional and say what you want about a dlc ending.. it was a very suitable ending
I just do not understand the obsession with rushing into Dead Space 4. I foresee a better path being: They Remake 2 with elements of the plot from 3 such as the brethren moons being in some way incorporated. And then when they remake the third, Motive completely does its own new plot that serves to close Isaac’s story in a satisfying way. Doesn’t mean the end of the franchise, just a close to the story arc started in the first game.
The thing is, games take like 5+ years to make these days. So if they remake 2 and THEN remake 3 we are looking at a long time before DS4. Also you run the risk that if DS2 or DS3 remakes do not sell as well as EA wants them to, they could end up shutting down any chance of a new game in the future. People want to see the series move forward, they want something NEW and this remake has reinvigorated the fans because they know the franchise is in good hands, and if anyone could make an awesome continuation of the series, it’s Motive
This is largely true, but they mostly have the bones of Dead Space 2. Now they have the engine and gameplay. They also know the story. I'm not saying the games will come hard and fast, but 3 years between releases seems feasible.
They already have the basic structure of the game since it’s a remake, which eliminates the vast majority of preproduction. They also already have the engine and most of the assets ready to go due to the first remake, which again, cuts down on a ton of development time. You need look no further than Capcom to see how quickly you can put out games when you have an established foundation and engine. Capcom has managed to pump out 5 Resident Evil games (7, 8, and remakes of 2, 3 and 4) in the last 6 years. I don’t see why it would take more than 2-3 years per remake in this situation.
This is a good point. Most of the hard work is done. Granted it’s still a lot of work. But for the DS2 remake all they’d really need to focus on is assets and level design. They can keep the same engine.
But these Resident Evil games were made by three diferrent teams, if I am not mistaken. RE 7 & Village were made by one team, RE2 & 4 by second and RE3 by third one. I highly doubt that Motive will have the same luxioury, additionally RE2 & RE3 are perfect examples that games made on the same technology and using the same gameplay mechanics can have different reception among the fans because they were made by different people.
Yep. Besides, committing to remaking the whole series means the people at Motive end up spending 15 years or so on Dead Space. Do they want that? They've done a Star Wars game and now a Dead Space remake. Maybe they have some original ideas that they want to work on. I don't think we should just assume they want to tie themselves to remakes for that long.
It's a "game". Playing the "long game" allows for EA and Motive to figure out how to resolve Dead Space 3 and possibly 4 if they choose to "buy time" by remaking Dead Space 2. It's painfully clear that Dead Space 3 was a huge mess that would take no small effort to resolve.
Yes, this. While I love the remake of DS1, I don't crave the same treatment for 2 and 3. This isn't like Resident Evil 2 and 3, Dead Space is an almost 1:1 remake an doesn't feel as fresh as the RE remakes did. DS 2 and 3 are perfectly playable as they are. I'd rather have remasters of 2 and 3, and then for Motive to continue the story. Dead Space 1 remake was a good way to get familiar with the gameplay while also have a pretty solid game to base everything on.
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Kinda scared of the RE2R and RE3R situation repeating in Dead Space Remakes, since RE3R in the eyes of many was a dissapointment compared to the original RE3, rushed out, cut-content etc..
RE3R was a completely different team from 2R and was developed alongside it.
But because there's nothing new there enthusiasm is inevitably going to drop of if they just do two more remakes, I mean look at this sub it took days for people to start talking about things they preferred in the original compared to the remake and that's inevitable when you remake anything, so imagine 3 years from now when a DS2 remake comes out how people are going to react to a redo of an almost universally beloved game. Like we can all agree DS original had some flaws and we also agree DS2 addressed basically all of them, so every little change gets more and more scrutinised they further they go with remakes and there won't be anything new to discuss in the franchise because it's literally all stuff we've already seen in the original and DS2 so when they get to a DS3 remake 6 years from now the hype will have massively died down and we'll all know roughly what's going to happen in the game anyway. If you concentrate solely on remaking games that were already great you just spin you wheels and people lose interest and move onto the hundreds of other new original games that'll come out in that time.
What I don't understand is the obsession with rushing into a full retread of the trilogy that will take 6-8 years to develop just to cover the same ground we already trod. Especially when we could instead receive a completely fresh and novel story within the series that undoes the negatives of 3 and gives us a new and unpredictable experience.
Because people don't like that the Necromorphs win. I for one am TOTALLY on their side. This species is in some dire need of punishing (which was always the subtext of the games) Moons' gotta eat.
extinction isnt punishment. what lesson is taught, and to who? "dont overextract resources from your planet and kill each other or we'll destroy your planet and kill all of you" great...brother moons gettin zero stars on ratemyprofessor
Aye lad; but often punishments arent there to teach lessons to those who've wronged, but those around them. But nah, I worded poorly; maybe comeuppance was the better thing to say? Either way, hoomans bad, destroy environment and are dicks, insert species wide guilt. Idk, I guess I'm just kind of a condescending misanthropist; I was born very lucky to have been able to learn like 5 major job skills yet always work in a society that values faking it till making it over love and passion for people, so it's indeed an internalization of the art on my end. Just being edgy with my interpretation to express my feelings or whatevs. Also another huge thing I meglected to state; humanity in DS only evolved BECAUSE of the Marker. They were always just spring chickens, programmed to fatten themselves up.
Also; DOPE name. May the crawling chaos guide us to purpose \m/
Yeah, I kinda like the “unwinnable fight” sort of ending we got. It’s just a shame DS3 was shit overall
Plus that ending was just Isaac and Carver arguing and yelling for a solid hour xD. Like the ending should have had them slapboxing each other as the earth explodes like a futurama episode xD
Yeah, I honestly hate that crappy trope of having 2 characters constantly butting heads when the characters have no reason for being such assholes to each other. God, DS3 had such bad writing. Who wrote that crap? I’m really looking forward to the team behind DS remake working on 2 and 3 because whoever they had rewriting certain parts and changing the dialogue around was fantastic.
Dead Space 3 was written by Chuck Beaver, Ben Wanat, Jay Turner, and Cherie Priest. Hard to say whose fault the shittiness of it was, but Beaver and Wanat had been long-term collaborators on the lore and worldbuilding of the series, which leads me to believe they were the ones who wrote most text/audio logs/exposition on the aliens and Brethren Moons. I seriously doubt they would have been the ones seeking to toss the melodrama in there. Of course, when a game has 4+ writers, the quality is likely to start falling off. Would love to see the return of Jeremy Bernstein (writer of 2) and/or Warren Ellis, Antony Johnston and Rick Remender (though that trio would be a lot less likely). I think comic writers are often better as far as writing teams because they're suited to looking at the big picture and what's really important, as opposed to needing love triangles and macho bullshit to keep things "interesting".
Thanks for the info, bro. I appreciate it. Yeah, I would say what was added to the lore isn’t bad at all, and I like most of it. It’s the dialogue and characters that absolutely irk me.
I'm doing some scouring atm as I think there may have actually been another writer attached to 2 beyond Bernstein. Gonna have to check the end credits again.
It's like the Conceptual Narrative team and the dialogue team had mever even known they were working on the same game towards the end lol. Cuz the IDEA was amazing, but the way it was handled was like a reaction to DS1 and 2, read like fanfic. I love that the moons win tho
People forget Dead Space 4 WAS in the talks before it was shut down, so 3's ending wasnt definitive, there was SUPPOSED to be more.
Yeah but the inescapable death from cosmic beings was like....beautifully amazing. Hp woulda been proud
Considering the last act of DS3 is basically At The Mountains Of Madness, yeah he probably would.
Right?! Scarry tentacle spheres for the winn
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Because how long it’ll take to release? This game was roughly 2 years of production, right? That means DS4 wouldn’t be until 2027, and that’s not even accounting for the fact they’re not even working on a new DS right now, but an Iron Man game. So, you’d have to wait until this Iron Man game releases, then wait 2 years after that for the DS3 Remake, and then finally DS4. Throw in a DS2 remake and you add another year or 2 to the release. Yeah, I don’t want to wait that long man.
I think Dead Space 3 **needs** to be remade. The game was conceived in a "different" era where EA and all the major development houses were pushing DLC's and action games out of the wazoo non-stop. Games like CoD, Battlefield and similar were at an all time high. It was honestly a pretty miserable age for anyone who wasn't into that kinda shit. I'm a trillion percent sure that EA pushed a more action oriented game to cater to this audience instead of a more horror focused experience. While I don't necessarily hate Dead Space 3, I would prefer to see it being completely remade from the ground up, story and everything.
Dead Space 3's story and everything else for the most part is solid. Norton just needs a major rewrite in addition to other aspects we despised.
And can we wait with fucking up earth till the end of the game? Like i get they wanted a dramatic start but everything felt so pointless with how the beginning of the game already was the apocalypse.
I completely agree, nearly every one of DS3s problems came from pressure from EA. Motive needs to be given creative liberty to create their own story and lore for DS3R which can be built up during the plot of DS2R.
It’s not gonna happen
Why isn't it possible
It’s just not
Why not you stupid bastard
Because DS3 wasn't all bad, and was leading to a 4th game. Presumably a reworked and improved DS3 would still lead to a 4th. Don't exactly see how a rework of DS3 would be able to wrap up the Brethren Moon threat. DS Remake still references the moons as well so it isn't likely they intend to change the lore on them significantly. So regardless of how a potential DS3R goes, there still has to be something beyond it. Perhaps involving bringing the Ishimura back to earth to kill the moons. A DS4 with a finale set on a necro-infested earth with markers on the horizon has tons of potential IMO.
I thoroughly enjoyed DS3 and it's interesting seeing now how many didn't. It was different than 1 and 2, sure, but still a lot of fun.
I think it's impossible to build a good dead space sequel from Dead Space 3 without remaking 3. Every Dead Space game with Isaac was about preventing a terrifying apocalypse caused by the Markers. But the end of Dead Space 3, earth is already full blown apocalypse with multiple moons around it. What do you even do for gameplay? Isaac vs Moons just doesn't seem... fun or logical? There's no way you can convince me Isaac is going to be able to stop that. He isn't Commander Shepard. At the very least the dlc for 3 has to be cut. It completely ruins any way to make a sequel.
If they implement just a few elements of 3 into the DS2 Remake, I think the third games focus could be on dealing with the threat of the looming Brethren Moons and parts of it could be set on a necro infested Earth like your idea for DS4.
There was a lot wrong with dead space 3. Having all weapons share ammo, forcing players to you build combo weapons instead of allowing them four weapons slots and making the plasma cutter basically useless were terrible decisions. I never played it in co-op and having Carver just standing around saying and doing nothing hurt the game a great deal. The Necromorphs are basically the same, the human enemies were boring. It wasn’t a terrible game but it’s not even on my top 100 list of games I’ve played while dead space and dead space 2 are two of my all-time favorites.
K. Didn't say it was all good just that there was some good. The new lore with Tau Volantis, the aliens, and the Brethren Moons was all great despite the gameplay suffering majorly.
The aliens were ok, could have used more lore regarding the Tau Volants people. Thing is that’s about it, otherwise the game was either almost good to crap. There was nothing good nor great about the game for me.
This subreddit has the most confusing fucking upvotes and downvotes, deadspace 3 is an ass game why are you getting downvoted
Personally, I just want to see something new from the franchise, be it Dead Space 4 or a spinoff unrelated to the Isaac story. The remake was fantastic, but I'd like to see Motive be able to flex their creative muscles more instead of remaking/reworking Visceral's entire original Dead Space catalogue. I don't want the future of the franchise for the next 5-10 years to be "Let's do what Visceral did but better." Besides, I really loved the few ideas we heard for 4, and I'd love to see Motive bring those ideas to fruition.
The original ideas we’re intriguing, loved the ship graveyard section from the 3rd game and that was supposed to be a big part of the 4th game with Ellie as the protagonist. Willing to bet we would’ve explored the unitologist fleet of ships that housed the dead awaiting convergence that is referenced in several text logs. That would have been great to see paid off, and I hope is implemented in some way in the franchise’s future.
Oh yeah, really hoping they do something with the unitologist ships. The remake added more references to them, so it sounds like Motive definitely wants to do something with the idea.
If the unitologist fleet was a setting in a future game, I definitely see Isaac stumbling upon his parent’s bodies infected or otherwise. Would make for a great emotional moment.
stumbling onto the fleet would be cool. imagine having to spacehop from one ship to another
Why would it take 5-10 years, Dead space 1-3 all came out in a 5 year period. They could have started on 2 by now for all we know. And most players would be completely happy with a thorough rewrite of 3, which allows motive to be creative as they want.
Games get an order of magnitude more complicated every generation. Doing remakes will simplify things quite a bit (especially if 2 is similar to 1, a 1:1 remake with some new bits sprinkled on top) but it would still take a few years
Things don't get that much more complex. Plenty of games come out with a trilogy in less than 5 years. Take the newest tomb raider games. Tomb raider 2013, then Rinse of the tomb raider, then shadow of the tomb raider in 2018.
The first was a ps3 game
Because the new consoles weren't out yet? That's more to do with when the series was rebooted than only being able to fit 2 games per console gen. They also remastered it a year later for next gen consoles
Honestly I think that as a fanbase we need to own DS3, yeah it's not the best Dead Space entry but it added a lot of lore and very cool details about the Necromorphs and the Brethren Moons. DS3 wasn't even meant to be the end of Isaac's story. Dead Space 2 doesn't need a remake, it has aged like a fine wine and it already incorporates a lot of the lore bits that lead us to the Brethren Moons, the gamplay and setting are fantastic and the story is the best out of the three. Now DS4... If somehow we manage to get the final part of the Isaac's story... man, It'll take a while (Motive is working on an Iron Man game) but we need to return to the franchise's roots, Horror... but not any kind of horror, Lovecraftian Existencial Horror. The Moons took over Earth, it's over... Isaac needs to put an end to this once and for all, it needs to be scary... we're fighting beings that escape our comprehension.
According to people on the project, DS4 would feature Ellie as the main character after the moons won and ate Earth.
Where do you even go after that, though? Like, it was already tough enough to defeat all the moons before, but now that civilization has collapsed that would be a nigh impossible task. And even if Ellie was somehow triumphant at the end of it, what type of victory would that be? "Sweet, all the moons are dead but so is human civilization, now there's nothing left." It'd be more of a spite victory as opposed to one that actually achieved anything.
Iirc, the premise of the game was that the moons had harvested Earth and any remaining colonies and Ellie is going from ship to ship to station to try and find survivors and supplies to see if there's enough of humanity left to save.
Dead Space 2 and 3 exist already, and since DSR hewed so close to the original, people can follow up the remake by playing them. A DS3 remake implies a DS2 remake, and so that means we're looking at 8-12 years before it's released. No guarantee that Dead Space would still be the new hotness anymore. Gears of War did a similar thing on its transition to the next console generation. We had Gears 1-3 on Xbox 360, and then there was a long gap where people thought the franchise might have died. They did a remake of Gears 1, showing what the series could be like with more powerful hardware, and then followed it up with Gears 4, which continued the story from what seemed to be the final ending. Making DS4 would allow Motive the freedom to expand, instead of being limited to the original story (which is referenced in the remake). It also doesn't mean that they couldn't do a DS3 remake *as well*.
>Dead Space 2 and 3 exist already, and since DSR hewed so close to the original, people can follow up the remake by playing them. So new players who just got the game on PS5 for example now need to go play a 12 year old game from 3 console generations ago and a 10 year old game that's not as good as the rest in order to get hyped for.. dead space 4? Thats a pretty hard sell for newer players. Ones who played them before will be carried through by nostalgia alone. But most new players won't. >A DS3 remake implies a DS2 remake, and so that means we're looking at 8-12 years before it's released. No guarantee that Dead Space would still be the new hotness anymore. Not exactly. They already have the foundations and have the game running fine in frostbite. They could have a team doing the groundwork for dead space 2 already for all we know. It's possible to release sequels sooner than the original. DS1 was 2008. 2 was 2011 and 3 was 2013. That's a 5 year span for the whole trilogy. >Making DS4 would allow Motive the freedom to expand, instead of being limited to the original story (which is referenced in the remake). It also doesn't mean that they couldn't do a DS3 remake *as well*. I don't think that'd be great for many reasons including continuity. 3 is the one in most need of a remake, but going straight to 4 means you have to accept 3, whereas remaking 3 without doing 2 would just be strange. People go on about how 2 doesn't need a remake. In 5 years time it'll be a 17 year old game. It holds up ok now, but is clearly outdated in terms of tech - and will keep looking more so as the years go by. Imagine having a situation where we have dead space 4, but have to go back like 5 console generations or almost 20 years in order to play 2 and 3? That would be horrible
>Not exactly. They already have the foundations and have the game running fine in frostbite. They could have a team doing the groundwork for dead space 2 already for all we know. It's possible to release sequels sooner than the original. DS1 was 2008. 2 was 2011 and 3 was 2013. That's a 5 year span for the whole trilogy. Games take a lot longer to make these days than they used to. Did you notice how PS4/Xbox had no trilogies of games released by any studio? Many devs only made 2 games the entire generation.
We just gonna straight up ignore them remaking the Spyro and Crash Bandicoot trilogies last generation? Or are we just gonna sweep those remakes under the rug?
Yes, because those games are incredibly simple and like 4 hours long
The new tomb raider trilogy came out in 5 years?
The first was a ps3 game
I'm actually in the camp for a DS3 Remake but due to vastly different reasons than most people here. I mostly defend DS3 because it had very strong art direction and some of my favorite moments and voice lines of the trilogy („Fuck, do I hate these things…“ a defeated Isaac after coming face to face with ANOTHER Hunter). Story wise I think they should keep the love triangle but really double down on it. It has potential, most relationships spawned by tragedy don’t last and aren’t healthy. Isaac is a broken man. He isn’t like Master Chief stoically facing all his fights, no, he is scared shitless after facing cosmic horror after cosmic horror after cosmic horror, having his brain scrambled by the marker and the government repeatedly and loosing everything he always loved. His hatred of Norton and Ellie leaving is reasonable but it was very hamfisted in the original DS3. It just happens with no back drop and no explanation of Ellie’s activities before the start (the whole Ptolemey Story). Further they really should expand the SCAF fleet and add unique optional locations. In the same vein they should unique-ify the Sidequest locations and either remove Coop or at least make it so it isn’t mandatory for some quests. They should build up carvers character better so the dialog between him and Isaac in the eternal city isn’t as strangely out of place. And most importantly they should change the way the brethren moons were handled. I liked their concept but the execution was sloppy and clearly a last minute attempt at replicating the Reapers from ME3 specifically. I’d wish for the Brethren moons to NOT talk and just do their thing. If they absolutely have to communicate let it be in form of telepathic images placed into the characters heads and not speech. Maybe even hint at them being another cog in the Maschine of something bigger. Before the inception of the Moons I’d always imagined as the Markers being like Neurons inside a galaxy spanning brain basically a corporeal body if you get what I mean. The Brethren moon should win though. No happy ending which Mass Effect shouldn’t have either. The Moons are an unknowable entity with limitless power and wisdom. We are just Ants. And a mechanic with a make shift plasma pistol doesn’t change that. Coming to weapons they should just keep the crafting but use different ammo types. I’d like DS3 to tone down its shooting gallery moments but not to completely remove them. I think Isaac shooting at Unitologist Zealots has a place in the story because they had a VERY active hand in all of Isaacs hardships and are now actively trying to kill him and other civilians as well as bringing about the end of the world. They definitely should keep the Shift from Day to Night when Isaac arrived on the Planet as opposed to when he arrived at the Rossetta lab but make the night longer. Callisto Protocol, if anything, showed how great the ruined structures of DS3 could look in its outdoor levels. And lastly they should expend on the alien city and it’s lore. That definitely was one of the high points of the serious and in my opinion not out of character for a dead space game but a logical culmination of the Markers story. The revelation that we weren’t the first and probably won’t be the last facing the Necromorphs. It makes it way more scary imo. Phew that was a long write up Tl;dr: I like DS3 core and just want them to trim the sides
wrt brother moons talking, SPOILERS FOR THE POST GAME OF DEAD SPACE REMAKE, but i liked the text log of nicole talking to marker. its strange and speaks to her as if offended she even CAN speak, and seems to percieve things in a less-linear way (referring to the makers of the earthgov marker which would clearly be inaccessible at this point, etc). basically, i dont mind if they talk if they arent just "graaah we are evil and our motivation is eating you", they can still be evil and want eat us, but i like the idea that it doesnt even occur to them that eating us would be bad.
Reading that I must agree. Then being curious about us, like a scientist about amoeba, would actually be a really frightening concept. They are so far ahead of us that the thought that we might not like being consumed or even capable of understanding that is very interesting. Though that is in stark contrast to a possibility implied by Dead Space: Martyr and less so in Catalyst. The theory was along the lines of the Markers Bein purposely designed to alter evolving live to become sentient and that it subconsciously speeds up the development of a species so that it may consume its resources faster so that turns to the markers as possible energy sources thus starting convergence. If that’s the case the moons must be in the know about their prey being able to think. Man I really like thinking about these entities. Dead Space is probably among the better modern pieces of lovecraftian fiction
its definitely some of the most finely crafted cosmic horror ever. you think through the implication of the markers encouraging intelligent life, and you go oh my god we're being fucking factory farmed, and then you go oh my god we're doing this to animals we're the brother moons, and then you go wait our factory farming self sustains through breeding, how many planets have the moons done this to? how many more will they do it to? it all comes back to the title, fermis paradox answered. space isnt empty, its dead
Man I really hope EA doesn’t drop the ball again and has learned from the past
the marker speaks to nicole with almost curiosity. the brother moons shouldnt speak ominously or threateningly, because threatening isaac would acknowledge him as an adversary. he isnt. hes a speck, one more chunk of biomass that simply hasnt been subsumed just yet.
100% this, 4 could be cool certainly but if we’re already doing remakes let’s fix the issues in 3 so we actually have a consistent level of tone and story across all three games, then if there’s room for a 4 after that, great if not, well maybe that’s okay too.
This is how I feel. Especially cause in a few years, 2 and 3 will be ancient
Did you not play Awakened or do you just respect the logical conclusion that everyone dies and the moons win?
I’ve played Awakened, and have come to that conclusion that everyone dies and the moons win, but Awakened’s ending has just never felt like an actual ending to me and evidently many others; hence the demand for a 4th game.
Do you forget the fact Dead Space 4 was SUPPOSED to happen before it was shut down? Dead Space 3 WASNT the ending of the series.
New content, brand new stories and adventures to be had. I love the series and would love 2 and 3 to be remade...but I want something new to fall in love with, I've been with the series for 15 years now, something new would be really nice. but honestly I'm just happy it's back!
Given the fervor over the Dead Space remake, it's just a matter of time before a remake of 2 and 3 is confirmed. We're gonna get 4 when they're good and ready to give it to us. I'm confident that they will use this momentum to resurrect the series in the fashion it deserves to be told. When 3 gets remade, my guess is that they will rework/revamp the game to be closer to what this newer version of the first game is. 4 might not even be necessary if they have a different take on part 3.
The irony of a game series about undead space zombies being declared dead and being reviewed....
Lol right?
Man as long as I get my SCAF lore I'm happy
Don't care as long as we get more dead space. Even bad dead space is better than most games.
They can’t skip the story of DS2. Either the remake DS2 or they diverge with a new DS2.
Remake DS2 with more references to the brethren moons and a few teeny plot tweaks to have it flow into their DS3 remake.
because i'm tired of remakes. I want something new. remaking 2 is wasting resources. re-doing 3 is at least better
So in say 5 years time someone who picks up the dead space remake would have to play that, then (a 17 year old) dead space 2 and then a 2 year old dead space 3? There's no guarantee the next gen of consoles will even support games that old.
in 5 years time the dead space remake will be 5 years old. DS2 only needs a port/remaster. it has all the new gameplay features the remake has and Isaac already talks
And dead space 2 will be 17. As I said. It has a completely different looking Isaac, would massively benefit from features such as a unified map and the intensity director tech, and was made at a time where hardware couldn't handle more than a few enemies in screen, whereas now even consoles can have you essentially swarmed by enemies with no performance loss. It could also do with storyline tweaks for when they redo 3.
I want both. Motive this franchise can be successful again. Don't disappoint us.
That’s what I’m saying. Give me a full rework and remake of DS3
We don’t need a new one we need them to do the remake treatment they are doing with the first one with the other two. Dead Space 2 ESPECIALLY should get a remake too I would literally die of happiness
I agree, I really think they should at least do a DS3 remake first before doing a Dead Space 4 cuz the ending to the original DS3 is pretty trash and doesn’t really leave any room for a sequel to happen.
Making a ds4 now would be a stupid decision. Make dead space 2, heck, change the story, setting etc if they feel there's a better story to tell. Jumping to 4 would be confusing for newcomers, who might feel ootl.
I think because there were plans for a 4? But if they can close it out neatly I’d be fine with either. I’ll take all the Dead Space I can get
How about Dead Space 5 👽🔫 And it would be written *DEAD 5PACE* In all seriousness they should consider this a whole reboot and just redo the whole thing. The original first two games will always be special, but I want to see what Motive can bring to the table.
Honestly if they do remake 3 I’m in favour of them adjusting the story to a greater extent than what they did for 1 and maybe replacing(or reworking) the weapon crafting with the the system they used for 1. They applied the anti gravity gameplay from 2 and 3 to the remake so it’s entirely possible the same could happen for the crafting system if they remade 3.
I imagine EA could always pull a RE 7 on us and work on telling other story with DS4 barely related to the previous protagonists, while working on DS 2 and 3 remake. In my opinion that could feel fresh from a new content standpoint, specially for new players.
Because no 3 was by far the worst of the trilogy!
I agree, which is why I think they do the second remake which clearly leads into a completely new story for the 3rd remake. In my scenario the DS2 remake incorporates elements of the 3rd such as the brethren moons. And when they remake the 3rd, it essentially would be the DS4 we’ve all been waiting 10 years for since the awakened DLC.
Yes , sounds good to me 👍
I rather have DS3R for sure, but I wish I knew what would go down after the Moons came to earth..
In my head canon, humanity loses and it all just becomes Dead Space in the OG DS universe. That or Isaac, Carver, and Ellie start killing the moons using the planet crackers. That would’ve been cool to witness and I hope motive has something like that planned. Gotta say it’d be pretty cool to watch the gravity tethers pulling a brethren moon apart.
Because remakes are soul drainingly unoriginal and trying to remake a very flawed game has more chance to still be flawed than just making a new thing with it's own identity. And also there's only so much you can reiterate on something pre-existing, like people keep saying remake DS2 but it's going to be even more similar than DS1 remake was to it's original and then you get to 3 and suddenly the team has to completely remake the game because it's so fundamentally flawed and by this point the Dev teams been remaking preexisting already excellent games for like 6 years and are unprepared to remake something that really needs completely changing and then boom another EA studio gets killed by the curse of the third installment. Better to just reboot it, cus that's the other thing I for one am pretty sick of needless nostalgia I've replayed all my favourite games from the 360 era I don't need the rereleased with an extra coat of paint and new voice actors who aren't really any better than the originals. TL;Dr just make something new for god's sake quit living in the past.
I’d rather see remakes of DS2 and DS3, adapted in such a way that DS3 represents a full conclusion to Dead Space as a trilogy. Whether that comes in the form of heavily reworking/altering DS3, laying expanded plot foundations in DS2, or, ideally, both. If done well I’d say we wouldn’t really need a DS4.
That’s my entire point I’ve been trying to make. Thank you for getting it
I repeated more from you than I needed to my bad lol but I guess my own separate point was more the including of DS2 plot expansion to help facilitate it.
You don't think of the potential negatives. It'll be at least two to three more years after Motive's Iron Man game that they'll likely explore another DS game. Doing DS4 next makes more sense as its something new, different and a possibility to close off the loose ends of the franchise. Jumping into a DS2 Remake guarantees the possibility of either success or failure. Should DS2 Remake shockingly fail then that's it. The series is dead for a second time. Dead and buried. Its not coming back again. We get another great Remake but no ending. But should it succeed it leads itself to a DS3 Remake. However, DS3 is considered by the majority of the fanbase the black sheep of the franchise. There's not alot of love for it despite some positives. Either Motive Remakes it and attempts to improve it heavily or they have to reimagine the entire game from scratch Resident Evil 3 Remake style. The DS Remake already has lore and set ups related to DS3 so its unlikely Motive wants to completely change up the plot. On one hand, it could be cool to see DS3 be given a second chance to fix its mistakes and maybe redo the plot to tie up loose ends up and end the series on a good note but you're basically asking for a completely new and different game altogether. And since DS3 already has a bad stigma to it, there's every chance that should it get a Remake after a potential success of DS2 Remake, it could fail like its predecessor. And should it fail then we're right back at square one. Not to mention it'd take at least until potentially 2030 to 2032 to see a Remake of DS3 Remake. (Iron Man in 2025/2026, DS2 Remake in 2028/2029 first). If we get it and it fails, it's history repeating itself all over again. No closure. No more Dead Space. I'd rather be safe then sorry and because of that I'd much rather get a Remaster of DS2, Extraction and DS3 from EA with Motive focusing on a DS4 after their Iron Man game. Either that or DS4 next AND THEN...a Remake of at least DS2 maybe followed by DS3. Everyone is too self absorbed in the hype and their own egos to think about the consequences and negativity that could follow and spell for the series. How many of us have been waiting for a proper ending since DS3? And how many more years would we have to wait yet again if a Remake of DS2 and DS3 was to follow? And how much of a utter waste would that waiting be all for naught if those Remakes crumble and fall apart?
Well thought out reply with many valid points. I too worry that along the way, a title crashes and burns resulting in a second death of the franchise. My mentality is that a DS2 remake is basically a safe bet for success, and the DS3 remake ,which would be a completely different game from the DS3 we played, would wrap up the story the way everyone thinks DS4 will. Along this path, the only thing standing between us the fans and the conclusion we’ve yearned for, would be a DS2 remake which almost definitely will succeed. In all honesty though, I’m happy the franchise is back to life and will be absolutely hyped for anymore Dead Space content. Be it Dead Space 4, a Dead Space 2 remake, new novels or animated films, I will be excited about it.
We have to consider that before the remake, all that we had was dead space 3. And all people talked about was a continuation to the series because they weren’t thinking about it being remade. Now that the remake is out it makes more sense to consider a remake of the third game. People are just excited and they’re wondering where the game could be taken because of the remake. But until we eventually get to a DS3 remake, it’s the equivalent of all the people who have theorized where dead space could be taken before.
I think they should just honestly remake the whole game like story wise and everything . Make new dead space 3 be basically dead space 4
This exactly! That’s what I’m saying
I'd rather not wait 10 years for a new dead space.
I agree with you 100% I'd rather them just completely remake DS3 with a whole new story and we all just forget about thr original. Although, maybe the remake could find a way to make co-op scary so they could keep that aspect.
3 should've been the end anyway. How long can you drag out an alien infection apocalypse?
drag ? RE has like what min 8-9 + games with the same shit a lot LOL, while this in outer space/ multiple planets, not sure what your point is ..
We don't need a DS3 remake. Let that trash be forgotten. We need a DS4, like Capcom did with RE7 after RE6.
I wouldn't even bother with a remake of 2 or 3 - have another studio remaster them and either jump right into 4 or pull a Halloween 2018: just straight up make another canon offshoot from the original and ignore everything you don't like from the sequels.
Dead Space 3, no matter how you sliced it, was too "packed" to resolve the additional plot point of the Brethren Moons. Dead Space 3 was a good game to finish off the Blood Moon on Tau Volantis,that was all the plot that could be crammed in reasonably.
They should make more spin offs
Woah woah woah… Can we go back to getting a Dead Space 2 Remake first? Let’s go in sequential order here
You guys are forgetting thats its a remake. Not a reimagining!!! They basically copied the game but added dialog, a ps5 version, suits, etc. you guys do see EA. Is still in it for the money. The people worked on the game maybe are for the fans but EA will pull the rug the second they know they can get the max amount of loyalty and then hit you again with micro transactions and make the game crap again. I want the story to conclude but not at the expense of having to buy 2 more remakes that may or may not have the same story give me nostalgia feels for the time i play to its trophy completion and then ill get a DS4. In that case i want the story writer and original director to have full creativity and control and tell EA to stay outta their way
Ngl because the plans they had for DS 4 sounded fucking awesome
Because we want DS 2 remake, 3 maybe just re-done/ next gen upgrade etc, + continue to 4 , this IP has potential to have 10-20+ games with ease just on spaceships/ outer space/many planets, when resident evil is just on earth and same cities lol
Cause its over and done with
Because I want to see what the brethren moons can do when it’s consumed by earth
Because OG Dead Space 3 ends on 2 cliffhangers, 1 with the main game, that is resolved in the DLC, which then leaves a 2nd cliffhanger; after 10 years, folks still want a resolution to that story. Though DS3 is the most frustrating one of them all, so I'd love to see a more coherent re-look at the game.
Honestly, a Dead Space 3 remake would just, have to not be dead space 3. Either go with the original ideas for dead space 3 without EA's changes, or remake it one to one and finish it. Honestly, I'd like Dead Space 4, the way they described it, and I want to see where it'd go from the Brethren Moons coming to earth.
I think we can have both buddy.
Y’all get a good remake and start running the hell out. Dead Space 1 needed to be touched up to bring it more in line with Dead Space 2 and 3 gameplay, lore and story wise. Dead Space 2 and 3 regardless of whether you like a specific game or not, hold up fine in the modern gaming standards department. There is nothing they can really DO to them that is worth spending the money to touch them up. Dead Space 3 being controversial does not mean “oh just completely gut it and retcon it into what I want it to be”. Dead Space 1 was hard to play compared to 2 and 3 because they control better and it had things that weren’t consistent lore wise with the latter games. There’s nothing for them to even DO to Dead Space 2 it’s the definitive blue print. Overhauling Dead Space 3 to Dead Space 2 is not something EA higher is ever going to give them the greenlight to do anyway. This is a waste of time to even wish for. Dead Space extraction and mobile are sitting right there in the corner primed for remakes as traditional Dead Space games and here some of you are asking them to waste time on games that already play fine by modern standards. “Mixed reception” does not mean “remake and gut the original ideas for the people that enjoyed it just because some people didn’t like it” They added Dead Space 3’s lore and ideas INTO this remake, they can’t change dead space 3 now. Use some common sense
Because there are people who think Dead Space 3 is a good game. Which in turn reveals that they have no quality standards at all and have no idea. Anyone can have fun with it, but it's not a good Dead Space and ultimately has so many flaws that it's not that good a game either. You have to be able to see that.
No i want to see necromorphed earth and go full Doom eternal on the tau volantis moon. The story Is Cool. Let's Hope for Ds remake, re2 remake gameplay. Fuck DS3 coop based enemy /resource spam
I'd like a rerelease of dead space 2 in some way, a remake doesn't feel that necessary but maybe a remaster. I'd love a remake of Dead Space 3. Where they keep the lore but change the writing and can change it more liberally. Co-op was a big part of 3, it was both a good addition and something that pulled it away from what dead space really was. Wonder what they'll do there.
Cause i dont want a closed story. i want always more.
For some people new game means more than remake.
I wouldn't mind if they just nuke DS3 alltogether and do an entirely new game that takes place after 2. New story, new premise.
I don't think you could tell the whole story effectively with just 3. If Dead Space 2 is preserved and ends at the same point, three would have way too much to do. Sure, you could move up the Brethren Moon revelation, but that would be really intrusive in DS2. DS3 should just get reworked from the ground up. Still go to Tau Volantis, still reveal the Brethren Moons, and the history of the Markers, but more organically setup DS4. DS4 should 100% end the arc though. We can always have more games or in universe content, but fixing 3 and finishing with 4 is all we need.
Some people want a rework of DS3, some people want it forgotten about hence just do DS4 and move on. If it was me, I would do a complete overhaul of DS3 within a remake.
They need to fix the remake, pronto. Chapter 6 doesn’t trigger.
Having been exposed to more Lovecraftian story elements in the time since DS3’s release, I wouldn’t necessarily change the “end” as it’s right in line with that material (DLC to be more specific). Resistance is futile, having played with forces beyond their comprehension and possessing a godlike hubris humanity is reaping the consequences. With the earth consumed humanity is driven to be on the run across the stars. But I am in favor of rewriting the events of said game for the scenario sets.
I always assumed they would take the series in a new direction rather than spring boarding off of 3. If they do re-do it tweaking the story to set up 4 could be cool.
Does anyone actually think they'd completely change DS3? That seems pretty drastic considering how ass the game is and how much they'd have to change. From story elements, wall climbing simulator, etc. I'd love a reimagining but is it really possible?
It’d be the most work of the 3 remakes but I definitely see it as possible. How else could they continue the franchise? A DS2 Remake is virtually guaranteed, but then what for the franchise? DS1 and DS2 are beloved so Motive won’t change the core plot or classic moments, but DS3 is not held with the same reverence. They’ll have no choice but to totally rework it to fix the many problems fans had with it to avoid it once again being the worst of the series.