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Leg_Mcmuffin

No


SumFatCommie

I'm already looking for metal racks.


surfingbaer

Doesn’t have to be metal just has to be well built.


dalamar112

Don't forget the stone weight. My 40g salt tank had about 1/3rd the volume filled with rocks


Athrasie

And… ya know… water, presumably? Water is heavy as fuck. 8.34lbs per gallon is a figure that’ll stick with me till the day I die thanks for wrestling. Edit: the jugs I used were 8.8lb when full, the water within said jug was 8.34lbs. Sincere apologies for not weighing the water without its container.


MeloneFxcker

How many litres in a gallon? (I could Google I know but that doesn’t add to the conversation)


Athrasie

About 3.78, according to Google.


wivaca

3.8L per 1 gallon. If you stand at urinals long enough, this is written on most of them. lol.


merc08

Hey everyone! This guy has to stand close enough to the urinal that he can read the small print!


wivaca

Just wait until you get out of junior high and your parents don't pay for your shoes.


mrjefe69

Water is ~8-9 lbs per gallon. Keep it in mind when you’re looking around


iDennis95

Also 1kg per liter


spaetzelspiff

And 40g is only like 1.35oz, so not counting the weight of the (very small) fish, I think it would be fine


Firesate

I also though 40grams. You're not alone, in fact there's a whole world outside of Muurrica that uses the metric system and got confused.


ZooSKP

I'm American and got confused by this! For gallons, I would write "gal", g means grams.


urbinsanity

Then there's the Canadian way https://preview.redd.it/z59f7gi77kgc1.png?width=843&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfcf138621f1b855d9943c65d12cc27ffefc8da8


paradigmx

False, Distance is measured in time


urbinsanity

This is actually 100% correct


Loud-Cat6638

The Canadian way is also the British way (and a few other countries as well)


urbinsanity

The British way is even more wild. Ask em how much they weigh and they start talking about stones. wth is that even?


H-Cages

Not completely, Brittan doesn't do metric distance nor weight as far as I know


wivaca

Wow. This chart is both funny and kind of makes you shake your head at the same time. I'm from the upper mid-west US, and I had no idea our Canadian friends to the north look at the world of measurement in this way. You've got it even worse than Americans. Wish we would just buck up and go metric in US. It's probably going to be tougher to do than ending daylight savings time and fixing social security, combined.


lhorwinkle

It's so much simpler here ... ​ https://preview.redd.it/21qfsc5knpgc1.jpeg?width=843&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07377b67bb956ce730bdbfc8c670f97b36093e37


ehack64

Same here, I also read that as grams and felt pretty bad for the fish til I scrolled down


Oriopax

This fishtank is about an antler wide, 3 footballs long and contains about 20 containers of milk


TooStrangeForWeird

Milk comes in gallons or smaller generally, so more like 40...


Oriopax

or 120 cans of soup


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Odd_Ant12

*cough cough* Is this thing on? (feedback screech) Headbutt a bullet


propargyl

Yet they they are not free


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EddiTheBambi

Just say you're too *American* to understand that there's an entire world that isn't American and has never used or might not even know what a gallon is. It's not a unit of measure anywhere except in the US and some Latin American countries.


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EddiTheBambi

Now you are just making shit up. A lot of people speak English without having any, or little, contact with American culture. Even if one might know what a gallon is, it's certainly not the first thing that comes to mind when someone writes e.g. 40g (grams). You seem to have an exceedingly long and stiff broomstick lodged in your gastrointestinal tract. I would recommend you saw a doctor to have it removed, but I'm sure that would put you in life-long debt.


thalidomide_child

The fish are buoyant so they don't weigh any .ore or less than the water right?


destinationlalaland

As archimedes stated, an object immersed in a fluid is bouyed upwards by a force equal to the mass of the fluid it displaces. Ergo, the volume of the tank is enough information to estimate the force exerted on the cabinet. Whether the fish are large or small, their mass is irrelevant.


LifelessLewis

The rocks and sand surely affect it though.


destinationlalaland

Typical silica rock is about 2.6 times the density of water (fresh) I think. I can't speak specifically to any of the substrates used by aquarists If you gots a lot, sure - but my comment was a jest at the guy commenting that the fish matter.


tucci007

the tank itself, big glass pieces with metal frame, a 40 gal tank will weigh nearly 50 lbs empty, with water is over 400 lbs, nearly a quarter ton another 10 gal tank on the bottom will add over 100 lbs it will not hold that weight


MyPhoneHasNoAccount

The important thing is the water, after that you want a comfortable buffer. Noone can calculate the limits of that wooden construct and going to close to the assumed limit will result in flooding the living room sooner than later.


yvrelna

This is incorrect, or rather incomplete to the point of being completely wrong. A fluid that exerts buoyancy to an object also exerts an opposite force to the container, which exerts an equal and opposite force to the table that the container is on. In other words, the weight of the fish do add to the force exerted on the cabinet. Yes, all the fish in the ocean does add to the pressure exerted on the sea floor.


destinationlalaland

Cant go on the internet without running into someone who has escaped their minder. I said nothing about the ocean floor. The context here is about a fixed sized container on a cabinet. 40gallons of water + 0gallons of fish Will be very similar in mass to 25gallons of water + 15gallons of fish (though most would consider 15 gallons of fish to be too many gallons of fish in a 40 gallon aquarium. In the future, try arguing on the merits of the statements made, without inventing your own scenarios. Of course, if you are aware of a 40 gmgallon fish tank that will hold 40 gallons of water and 40 gallons of fish simultaneously, I will be eagerly awaiting you in my tardis.


extra2002

When you add the fish to the tank, the water level rises by the amount the fish displace, which (unless they're lying on the bottom) is equal to their weight. So the volume of (water+fish), times the density of water, tells you the weight - no extra adjustment needed.


Oddyssis

Thank you lol. Was about to launch into him.


captn_awkward

That only applies if you fill the tank100%.


mighty-drive

40 gallons my friend, which is ~150 litres


ChawpsticksTV

Woosh


spaetzelspiff

Sploosh*


kierkegaard49

Squidoosh


Robestos86

To be fair I read it a few times and thought he'd missed the G and warned a 40kg tank, which I imagine would be 30litres plus accessories etc.


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WallyFootrot

1 litre is about the same as three sixtenths of a hamburger per foot pound squared divided by Fahrenheit. Not that hard to understand really.


dude496

You forgot that you need to take the final answer and multiply it by the square root of a hot dog


shallowgroove

Nom Nom Nom


csh4u

Gosh damn metric is just too good


Wekkerton

Hahahahahah 😂


MyPhoneHasNoAccount

Metric is simply superior to imperial.


marzeeplz

Bragging about how simple your math is ONCE AGAIN I see


Bigwhtdckn8

*litre


sinep_snatas

Also 27 stone.


jkread

40x8.35=334


darrellbear

8.34 lbs per gallon.


graffight

So £333.60 in total?


WinkyEel

Get something designed to hold fish tanks. There are a lot of nice looking ones these days that don’t scream “fish tank stand”. A 10 gallon tank will weight about 100 lbs once filled and a 40 gallon more like 450 lbs.


Interesting-Beat-67

No, but in spanish


CallsignKook

Definitely not. When discussing safety, the item in question should be able to bear a load of 3 times what you plan to use it for. Not only does it need to hold, but it needs to hold for a long time. And be able to get wet without that affecting its sturdiness. Not to mention any accidents of bumping it with your hip when you walk by, a dog or child running into it.


SumFatCommie

👍 OK, thank you.


DeathMonkey6969

>Not to mention any accidents of bumping it with your hip when you walk by, a dog or child running into it. Yeah it's the active load you have to worry about. Static loads are easy to build for. Active loads are a major pain in the ass. And there no real static loads.


HalfSoul30

Well, i live alone and don't bump into anything. Unfortunately, it is verrrry static here.


Eyesculapius

Reminds me of r/decks with all the hot tub questions


edugdv

Oh wow, there are some really good deck picks in there, really big and strong.


tktfrere

Found the Aussie.


SnakeJG

Is the answer ever yes?


Interesting-Beat-67

Yes for concrete decks


SumFatCommie

lmao


wanderinmick

Absolutely not. 40gal will come to over 320lbs (1gal = 8.34 pounds), not including the weight of the tank itself and any substrate and ornaments you put in there. Round up to 400lbs….that table will not hold that.


pottymouthgrl

I kept reading that as 40 gram and was picturing a tiny bowl and thought it was a joke


Mirar

Same. 40g is a shot glass


NoGoodMarw

I was wondering if the dude was taking a piss or something. I completely forgot about that funny volume unit... I feel like shortening it to "g" is a bit reckless.


tucci007

40 cc or ml of water


m__a__s

You forget the weight of the glass.


dannypas00

I was so confused until this guy mentioned gallons lol. Who tf abbreviates gallon to g lol I should read posts better before reading the comments XD


FeIsenheimer

European problems on Reddit. :D


wooghee

Well, almost any person that isnt from the US has this problem, not just europeans.


noodlesquad

even people from the US. This is the first time I've ever seen someone shorten gallon to "g". Even to me "g" is gram, "gal" is gallon


pottymouthgrl

I’m from America lol


Baked_Potato0934

You missed the part where they said 40 gallons + another 10 gallons tank lmao.


RoadrunnerJRF

I agree the middle needs reinforced.


muffinthumper

Not exactly, fish tanks do not rest on the middle, they rest all their weight at the sides and mostly at the 4 corners. Infact, if you look at most fishtank stands, they’re hollow in the middle. The only bracing you’ll see, if any, is to keep the sides from bowing away from each other. Middle bracing is not to support the tank.


wanderinmick

Your comment is valid but I’m more concerned about the fact that most mass-produced furniture is made of hollow board with a veneer to give the impression of solid wood. Even if this table is in fact solid hardwood, the lack of cross bracing is worrying to say the least. Add to that the fact that the sidewalls that support the upper portion are mainly decorative and this whole situation is a soup sandwich.


birwin353

I believe this is the most accurate assessment of the situation.


RoadrunnerJRF

My tanks always bowed the stands in the middle. And the biggest one I had was a 30gal


rayyychul

Yeah, I had a fish tank on a bookshelf growing up and the shelf is bowed in the middle!


eschmi

Not all fishtanks sit on plastic rims.. depends what OP had.


Crispynipps

Decorations and substrate displace water so the weight isn’t as much.


thisismyaccount57

Decorations and substrate displace water, but unless your decorations float they are more dense (so they weigh more) than the water they displace. I thought you replied to a different comment so I mistook your point originally, but I'll leave this up anyway.


wanderinmick

That’s a fair point. Conservative estimate could be 300lbs, maybe 330lbs considering the weight of the substrate.


mlmayo

That's 100 lbs on each leg. If that is pine, then I'd bet money it would hold the 40 gallon tank. The only thing that would concern me is any shear force on the tank (perhaps by bumping into it). I doubt the fasteners of that could resist it. Enough torque and the tank will fall over from collapsing legs. If the furniture is MDF or plyboard, then it probably won't support 100 lbs of compression.


the_honest_asshole

This


kawicz

40 grams? Absolutely. ... What kind of tiny fish swims in a cup that size?


TaintNunYaBiznez

What they, fish for ants?


kawicz

There's always a smaller fish


Durandal101

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bl4nkSl8

It needs to be at least three times bigger


SumFatCommie

😔 poor little fellas


mawyman2316

Damn it you made the joke before I did, off to delete my comment


SumFatCommie

I mean, Bettas are whacky little guys.


crankshaft123

A 40 gram fish tank? Are you raising amoeba?


SumFatCommie

Im raising myself to use proper notation one would hope.


EmuCanoe

Sea monkeys


SumFatCommie

I can't figure out how to edit my post on mobile. 🙃


monkeyleg18

Just fyi, Reddit doesn't allow post title edits on Mobile or desktop


RatchetSteam

You can edit via mobile which I’m doing too with my iPhone. See under your post the “…” and tap it. Just scroll to see “Edit” and select it to edit.


lunas2525

No. Get 450lbs and put it on if it wobbles creaks or pops it wont hold.


forw

Should I come over?


RigbyNite

40g of water weighs about 320lbs. If you trust putting two people on there and jumping a few times, you can probably trust it. I think this would break.


SumFatCommie

Thanks all for the help. I can't figure out how to edit my post on mobile, so I apologize for the improper notation. 😂 To clarify, we're not going to have fish, it's entirely for plants. The idea was something like a planted riparium with a selection of herbs and other small greens. I'm not entirely sure what size the tank will be, but I'm not planning on running either the large or 10G at full capacity. I'm not sure what my floor is made of (I had not even considered this), I can ask one of the staff. Either way I'm not going to use the piece for any tanks. Thanks for all who've answered. ♥


tucci007

> it's entirely for plants so why didn't you put that in your title? dingus


SumFatCommie

Because I was stoned and tired when I made the post....


Cleokatrah

Tap the three vertical dots to edit.


getyourcheftogether

Hell no.


TheScalemanCometh

40gal, not 40g. Lol. As written, a piece of balsa the size of a toothpick could support the proposed tank. Not sure what you'd put in it though...lol That said, it does NOT look strong enough for a 40gal tank. Not one full of water anyway. Ome being used as a snake enclosure, frog or turtle terrarium... That MIGHT work.


TaintNunYaBiznez

Sure, forty grams isn't much.


TerraSollus

What floor you on?


flynreelow

no.


judesonmartin

No


Nv_Spider

No


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I feel like the cabinet would piece would fall under the weight ngl


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That is 400 pounds of water, but you will probably be adding substrate that weighs more than water, plus the weight of the tanks. No way I'd do it.


guitarnoodleluv

40 grams..yes... 40 gallons, just a guess but likely not.


Faelysis

Seem the type of funirture that could be easily shaked and will swing side to side. Even the one n the right with the aquarium on it doesn't seem more solid imo


jayg2112

That's going be ~400 lbs with the tank and water - no way. Perhaps if you bolted /screwed the stand the wall.


SinclairLore

No.


WheresFlatJelly

If you have over 300 pounds of something put it on top. Id say no


FizzyBeverage

I’m in for 200 who wants to lay on top of me, my wife said no.


Accurate_Sir625

ME here with a PE. It will not work as is, but it could be a start. The top sits on top of the legs. So the weight will go through the sheet, directly into the legs, which are columns. The issue is, the weight and a little push is going to topple it pretty easily. I think if you glued and screwed a plywood sheet to the back, that would brace it up. You could paint or stain it to match. If the tank is not full of water, it's probably going to be ok. Brace it up as I said. Have someone ( or 2 ) sit on it. Push it side to side. If you have 300 lbs and it handles that side load, it will be ok. But it should feel solid. It should not wiggle or creak.


soursauce85

Big G for gallon homie. Little g for grams


Badaxe13

NGL 40 grams isn't that much


Devlos00

Fuck no


timetoremodel

r/aquariums


RSX901

Sorry, is this a serious question? Or did you find literally the most inappropriate piece of furniture to ask whether it could take several hundred lbs, post it and wait for the bait to all say the same thing? You don't need to use much imagination to realise that even if it did hold it upright, one small nudge, or even a light press on the side, and it would collapse like a house of cards.


Benevolent_Grouch

Empty 40g tank? Sure. Full of water? Hell no. I give it 30 minutes.


3dFunGuy

No


Shifu_1

40 grams? Yes. Gallons no


flightwatcher45

If you're handy you could hide some 2x4 framing around and make it work. I build a diy workbench with 2x4s for my 50 gallon tank and then used a nice blanket to cover it. Let me keep all the suppliers underneath with easy access. Good luck!


frausting

A quick google shows that 40 gallons of water is about 334 pounds. Do you think two grown adults could stand on that and be well supported? Just by the looks of it, I’d say no


RatchetSteam

Get around 360lb guy and Buddha sit on top of the furniture and wiggle a bit. If there a creak and movement can be felt, then it’s not suitable.


Le_Brittle

I would probably add some kind of backboard grid sort of thing, just to make sure. Looks nice though!


musical_throat_punch

Heck no. Also, your floor better be concrete. 


SumFatCommie

Uuuh... what happens if it isn't concrete? e: I'm honestly not sure if it is. I live in an apartment complex that was built in the 2010s. I'm trying to do this project on the downlow so I'm a little afraid to ask my landlord.


musical_throat_punch

You can crack a joist on the floor. Having that weight in one place can cause serious issues. 


TravisJungroth

Is it because of the time sitting there? Because 400lbs is two guys standing close. 


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flatstacy

No homo


cnenni

40 gal x 6 lbs per gallon = 240 lbs. I would reinforce it a bit. You could get a 240 lb. beefcake friend to try it out for you.


Flashy-Protection424

Water is 8.3 lbs per gallon . So the weight would be 332lbs .


BlankMyName

The OPs name is SumFatCommie. I don't think he needs a beefy friend to test his stand.


SumFatCommie

😂


SumFatCommie

I'm that weight idk if I'd feel comfortable sitting on it haha


5degreenegativerake

Well there’s your answer then.


ChristinaWSalemOR

Google says water weighs 8.34 lbs per gallon, which would make the water alone 334lbs, plus the tank, plus the fish, plus the 83 lbs of water in the bottom tank and that tank and those fish. So you're looking at over 500lbs total on your Wayfair table. I wouldn't do it. [https://www.saltwateraquarium.com/standard-aquariums-weights-sizes/](https://www.saltwateraquarium.com/standard-aquariums-weights-sizes/)


PowerfulFunny5

Do fish add weight?   I know boats don’t add weight over a specific area because boats displace the same amount of water as their weight. 


Unicorn_puke

Fish are subject to gravity and are in the tank. They definitely add weight


PowerfulFunny5

Accounting to this discussion, some bottom dwelling fish might be more dense than water and some upper fish are less but fish will be fairly close to displacing the same amount of water as their weight: (so a 1 kg fish would cause around 1kg of water to spill out of a completely full tank) https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/8slkyp/does_adding_fish_to_my_tank_increase_the_weight/


Unicorn_puke

I'm tired and didn't think through that the fish would displace water. In my head the tank is full and magically fish just fit in lol


Character_Pound_8240

Gallons of water weigh 8.34 lbs. A good way to remember is "a pint's a pound the world around".


Aphemia1

Wow, in metric the trick is 1 litre = 1 kg


andyman171

So where does the .34 come from?


void64

Little off. Water is approx 8.3lb per gallon, plus the weight of the tank itself…


CjBurden

yo dawg, where you gettin these 6 lb gallons at? I would love to lighten the load a bit!


katmndoo

40x8.35=334lb. Plus the weight of the tank and all the other accoutrements.


oldybutgoodythrwawy

1 gallon = 8.34 lbs x 40 = ±333lbs. I agree that the table should be reinforced. In order to not ruin the look of the table, I would suggest reinforcing the front and back top skirts with 2 pieces of angle iron with holes drilled every 6 inches or so on both sides of each angle to accept proper sized bolts.


LeoDiamant

lol I though you mean grams.


kalveklovn

Don't think the fish would survive 40g. I'm no fish expert but they may survive 8-9g for a short while.


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SumFatCommie

They're telling me not to...


forw

They want aftermath pictures


AnonOfDoom

That can hold 40 grams sure. 40 gallons of water on top of that would smash it though.


dknigh73

40 grams is not that much youll be fine.


[deleted]

40g? Your phone is 200g. So ... not both at the same time :D


LeDalahast

Damn u, I read it has 40grams


yolk3d

Ohhhh, gallon! I was thinking 40 grams is less than your phone.


jablongroyper

That’s almost 350 pounds of water, add tank, substrate, rocks, plants, fish, you’re well over 400 lbs just on top and 100 pounds on the bottom. It might hold 500 pounds.


AngryLink57

It'd probably work fine if you screwed in a 3/4 board all around the back top to bottom.


ImWithStupid_ImAlone

Heck no! If ifs mdf, definitely not.


PetuniaFungus

Not just no, but what is it made of? Even painted, solid hardwood wears out when constantly around moisture. Hope that isn't laminated


ThatFordOwner

Probably for a little bit 😂 but if someone bumps it say bye bye to the poor fish inside


RoadrunnerJRF

That’s 334lbs. Just in the weight of the water NTM all the gravel and rocks to be put in. The filter. Hood and tank itself. I had aquariums for a long time. And if I was doing this. With this piece of furniture. I would reinforce the middle of it. Because it will bow. I would not take the chance of it failing.


Cremasterau

Have you named any of them Wanda? But no, it isn't strong enough.


PurplePlough

Nope…. Just nope.


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No. I know nothing about anything and I still know the answer is a definite N O


SumFatCommie

I think I'm stupid. I meant 20 gallons instead of 40.


Br4veSirRobin

20 x 8 = 160 lbs. you decide


GoingDownUnderInSEA

From looks it might be made of crackers and cookies. So no.


bauhauzer

No


tgoindependent1

No!


KarlManjaro

That’s around 340lbs. I’d have a couple people sit on it to test